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 Don't worry, I went back and read the OP. | ||
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Furerkips posting has been remarkably anti-town up to this point. I still haven't decided what to make of that quite yet. Shraft points out that this could just be him acclimating to TLMafia environment, so I'll give him a bit more time before I start pushing for his lynch. I appreciate VE pressuring Katina to chime in, but I think we all know that she will contribute on her own schedule. I'm not going to lynch her for that. I'm want to hear her thoughts on Furerkip. | ||
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As far as Furer, there was a post or two of his that looked scummy rather than newbie town. I'll go back and find them in a bit. | ||
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The fact that VE dies promptly in most games was a sarcastic remark based around the fact that in the games I've played against him, he tends to die rather quickly. Aperture Mafia springs to mind. @MrZentor: Another sarcastic remark on my part. I do believe VE's claim to be a miller, and my comment stating I was most likely wrong was not meant to be taken so seriously. Also, I'm still trying to figure out the logical leap from "ghost thinks someone might be scum" to "ghost must be scum, and should hence be lynched". @VE: I seem to have been absent because I've been absent. Work/life keeps me busy. Also, I don't see how I was "content to discuss it ad nauseum". I said I believed it, explained why, and left it at that. Okay, now to actually do something in this game. | ||
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Blazinghand's opening post from that game: On April 14 2012 08:46 Blazinghand wrote: That doesn't make his idea wrong though. Look, here's what's gonna happen D1: we'll be at lylo. Our cop needs to claim NOW, and get medic protection, and NOT call who he is checking. Scenario A (cop does not claim): We enter D1 and the mafia has possibly shot the cop. The cop can claim at this point and we have 2 confirmed town, or 1 confirmed town and 1 confirmed scum. If the cop got shot, though, we're flying blind. Scenario B (cop DOES claim): We enter D2 and the mafia cannot have shot the cop, because the medic protected him overnight. THE COP CANNOT HAVE BEEN SHOT, meaning we have 2 confirmed town, or 1 confirmed town and 1 confirmed scum. I think that even though it's gonna be LYLO tomorrow, the cop should claim, and the medic should just protect him. Two important things to notice:
This is directly opposed to his first post in TLM LI, where he gets right down to analyzing the scummier players in that game, and ignores game mechanics entirely. Compare these two posts to what he opened with in this game: On June 05 2012 07:43 Blazinghand wrote: Ah where would we be without a hilarious/bad VE claim? On a more serious note, given that he's either lying scum OR actually a miller, there's no reason for a DT to check him-- whether he's lying or telling the truth the result is the same. Personally, I think it's more like the first than the second. By the way, he rolled scum for the first post and vig for the second. His lack of pictures and posts could easily be attributed to him simply being busy, but I think that the time he spends discussing mechanics instead of play points to him rolling scum this game. | ||
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##Vote Blazinghand at least until he starts playing like the townie blazinghand. | ||
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That being said, I do like his recent aggression towards MrZentor, who I think is scummy. At the moment, I'd be happier lynching MrZentor today over blazinghand. His posting is empty. Can someone point me to the case against navillus? Art said that Shraft posted it, but I can't find it. | ||
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Catching up on the thread. | ||
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This post still bothers me a little: On June 05 2012 07:38 furerkip wrote: If you are wondering where I got 4 from, it's from the maximum amount of mafia as you can see on the 1st page. I've checked the first page, and it doesn't say how many scum are in the game. It could be an extrapolation, or it could be a scumslip. If he does flip scum, I would assume that there are either four scum total, or, more likely, three scum and a serial killer. I still don't like his stances on mislynches outside of LYLO, but that could be easily attributed to him learning to play outside of TL. tl;dr: I was wrong, and my read on him has gone from scum to null. | ||
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@everyone who's not MrZ: This is why I think his posting is empty. Since he made the post complaining about how I make vague statements without backing them up, MrZ has made 5 (technically six) posts. + Show Spoiler [I agree with Blazinghand] + On June 06 2012 11:21 MrZentor wrote: I was starting to wonder if anybody had noticed the "as blue we" line or if everybody was afraid of pointing it out. BH, remember this? + Show Spoiler [I agree with Pandain] + On June 06 2012 11:47 MrZentor wrote: We shouldn't lynch BH. We should lynch either Ghost or Navillus and have Pandain shoot the other. + Show Spoiler [I agree with VE... OR NOT WHATEVER] + On June 06 2012 12:11 MrZentor wrote: I do agree that the "accidental claim" looks a bit forced. It could be that he claimed later as a vanilla town to act as a target. I'm starting to think it's more likely that he's scum though, as why would he lie about accidentally claiming instead of saying that he was breadcrumbing if he were vanilla town? + Show Spoiler [nothing] + On June 06 2012 12:21 MrZentor wrote: Oooooo, I like his style. It reminds me of something, but what? + Show Spoiler [Both of the things VE said could be true] + On June 06 2012 12:58 MrZentor wrote: VE, the problem with that is then there is only one kill, the mafia's. Wouldn't people get suspicious if there is only one death when the vigilante claims to have shot somebody? In my opinion, MrZ is trying to pass off as useful without actually being useful, which makes me believe that he's scum. | ||
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I'm going to vote to lynch scum, and that's why I ##unvote Blazinghand ##vote MrZentor B) I don't like how this Pandain lynch is going along. I don't believe his claim, but I'm not convinced he's scum. He could simply be an idiot townie trying to draw mafia shots toward himself for whatever reason. I'm not comfortable lynching him today. C) Complete and udder chaos has, once again, erupted in my life, at least for the next 18 hours. I'm not going to be back before the lynch. brb. | ||
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On June 06 2012 11:21 MrZentor wrote: I was starting to wonder if anybody had noticed the "as blue we" line or if everybody was afraid of pointing it out. BH, remember this? On June 06 2012 12:11 MrZentor wrote: I do agree that the "accidental claim" looks a bit forced. It could be that he claimed later as a vanilla town to act as a target. I'm starting to think it's more likely that he's scum though, as why would he lie about accidentally claiming instead of saying that he was breadcrumbing if he were vanilla town? On June 07 2012 07:14 MrZentor wrote: Why would you blue claim when you're an ordinary townsperson? | ||
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On June 08 2012 03:50 ghost_403 wrote: @VE: Do you think that blazinghand is playing pro-town or anti-town this game? fix'd | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + I spent 9 hours on a Linear Algebra final last night alone. My prof is sadistic. | ||
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Zeldblade has played horribly passively this entire game. I had no notes on him from Day 1 at all. That doesn't prove to me that he's scum, but I definitely don't like it. The part he played in the Pandain lynch is disconcerting. I also don't like how he immediately jumped on the "Furerkip == scum" wagon from the possible scumslip I pointed out. It felt more to me like he's just trying to find people to sheep rather than hunt scum. If/when Furerkip comes back, I do want him to address that. | ||
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I've made my thoughts on BH clear since Day 1, and how the Pandain lynch went down has done nothing *but reenforce my position on him. fix'd. You'll have to excuse all the errors in my post. The guy I have writing them is an idiot. | ||
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Compare and contrast the Blazinghand from this game with the blazinghand from TL Mafia LIV. In LIV, he actually was a vigilante, and he was the aggressive protown blazinghand I've seen in most of his games. His first post in that game is voting someone for a scumslip. This is completely different from his play here. At no point did anyone write: But Ghost! He changed his play after he got modkilled in iGrok's game! That modkill happened in TLM LIII. Last I checked, LIII < LIV. | ||
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On June 06 2012 11:18 Blazinghand wrote: lol wut On June 06 2012 12:15 Blazinghand wrote: + Show Spoiler + On June 06 2012 12:10 Pandain wrote: I actually agree that this is getting off topic, and its just me and BH arguing semantics based on different perspectives of the principle I mentioned earlier. To address VE shortly, however, you can refer to my earlier posts to see where I slipped my role, its even been quoted and pointed out. You can try to lynch me, though. To commence, from this little barrage of posts I've analyzed more people. I think VE is more likely town. Navillus has attempted to(rightfully) steer discussion back onto owhere we should be discussing, which was definitely the town thing to do. Mafia would either want to take a stand on the mason issue, or simply not post. Navillus acting as such strikes me as town. I'm also very suspicious of Zellblade, as he's hardly posted at all. In fact, hilariously enough, he's just asked interogative questions. Which I find hilarious and will do one day. How Saying that we have different perspectives about the mason claim is like saying that bullets and massages have different perspectives about touching people. Your accidental claim is crap, your asking masons to claim is crap, and your discussions and non-discussions are crap. ##unvote MrZentor ##vote Pandain | ||
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On June 06 2012 11:23 Blazinghand wrote: Alright, if we believe Pandain's claim, then why don't we follow up with my course of action: We lynch MrZ (or maybe Navi if he seems scummier). If MrZ flips town, sure, shoot me. But I think he's gonna flip scum. Blazinghand knows Pandain is lying, so why would he be willing accept lynching someone else? Blazinghand is a good player, and I've never seen him back down, even when he doesn't know he's right. Why would he be willing to back down here, when he's so sure that Pandain is lying? | ||
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##Vote Blazinghand | ||
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Also, that isn't even close to "bet his life". Given 72 hours, almost anyone could argue their way out of that one. | ||
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Town jailkeeper JK'd Hyaach Blazinghand lied about the shot, as Furerkip was supposed to be modkilled for failing to post during the night. [/tinfoilhat] | ||
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DISREGARD THAT. | ||
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OP On April 22 2012 03:21 Kurumi wrote: + Show Spoiler + Player list 1. Nova_Terra BLU Depressed Soldier lynched Day 4 2. froggynoddy 3. Beneather BLU Depressed Soldier modkilled Day 1 4. ghost_403 BLU Depressed Soldier modkilled Night 2 5. papapanda 6. Sinensis 7. johnnywup BLU Depressed Soldier modkilled Night 2 8. PaqMan 9. Kenpachi RED Rocket Jumper Soldier modkilled Night 2 10. Mementoss BLU Depressed Soldier dead Night 3 11. Bill Murray BLU Depressed Soldier lynched Day 1 12. Blazinghand BLU Sniper dead Night 4 + Show Spoiler + 13. Palmar Killed Night 1 BLU Depressed Soldier 14. sinani206 RED Rocket Jumper Soldier modkilled Day 1 15. slOosh Killed Night 1 BLU Depressed Soldier 16. marvellosity 17. Eiii BLU Depressed Soldier dead Night 5 18. DoYouHas BLU Depressed Soldier killed Night 2 19. Katina RED Rocket Jumper Soldier modkilled Day 1 20. Zealos BLU Depressed Soldier modkilled Day 1 21. BlackRaven (Drazerk and Hassybaby hydra) Killed Night 1 BLU Depressed Soldier 22. blubbdavid BLU Depressed Soldier dead Day 2 lynch 23. l10f BLU Depressed Soldier lynched Day 5 24. grush57 25. SomethingAwesome BLU Depressed Soldier killed Night 2(Dirkzor and Mattchew hydra) 26. layabout BLU Depressed Soldier dead Day 3 lynch BLU Mercenaries left 4/21 RED Mercenaries left 2/5 KP is 1. KP is rounded up. OP On April 22 2012 03:20 Kurumi wrote: + Show Spoiler + RED Scout Role Cop Wearing the Killer Exclusive together with his Lugermorph and Licence to Main Scout looks like a real undercover cop! Wait, that's true! The thing is, he isn't the good cop. He is the bad cop. No, not like in this weird-strategy of interrogation! He is literally BAD cop. He gets to know role of one of the players every night. RED Rocket Jumper Soldier Goon I am flying high, MAGGOT! I am really stressed nowadays, because I am dating this hot American patriot girl from Louisiana from Monroe. How do I deal with it? JUMPING OF COURSE. Jumping without pain though! This tool usually sucks, but I found an use for it! I shall be proclaimed the best psychotherapist soon! No powers. RED Pyro 0.5KP Vigilante -The Engineer still doesn't know how to translate what Pyro's saying, besides "SPY!", so You know... Can't quote anything good.- Might deal 0.5KP damage to player of choice. One owns the KP, not the entire team. RED Demoman Mad Hatter I LEFT SCRUMPY FOR THIS MATCH, SO BRING IT ON, DOUBLE EYED MONSTERS! Plants bomb during the night. Might move it OR detonate it every night. Has one bomb which counts as 1KP. It detonates after he dies. RED Heavy Godfather Politician I am leader of the team! I am best now! No one can stop Heavy-RED Team! Mighty RED will rule baby BLU to the ground! Did You know, that my father was fighting against the Communist Revolution? DT checks come back as "BLU", has a hidden vote. RED Engineer Role Picker Get lost or I will get You done Texan Style. Has three powers to choose from. Can only choose one(for the entire game). They are: Framer (makes player show up as RED to DT checks.), Doctor, Roleblocker. RED Medic Doctor Heavy is ze leader, I am ze backup leader now! A-haha! I am healing my comrades when they need it, never letting them down! I make sure that they are zalive! Can choose to protect one person from 1 KP. No one knows about successful protect. RED Sniper Day Vigilante Snipin's fine job mate. Especially when You're in the better team. Professionals have standards. Might shoot someone during the day by typing ##Kill Playername. Has only one bullet. RED Spy Roleblocker Everything's going to be done in a single cycle, believe me. Can prevent someone's action from going through. People without roles are not notified of a roleblock. Builders League United BLU Scout Alignment Detective I am trying to prove that I am not only agility, there's a lot of intelligence people miss out when thinking about me! This is time to prove that I am intelligent, handsome, agile and precise mercenary! Can check player's alignment every night. They come back as "BLU" or "RED". BLU Depressed Soldier Vanilla Town Lucy doesn't love me anymore... She is with that stupid copy of me from REDs. I want him dead. I want THEM dead. I hate them. As usual, has no powers besides his vote. BLU Pyro Tracker -BLU Pyro nowadays was hiding from people, but that's because he was learning the art of tracking. After his hard training he's confident in his abilities.- Can check who player visits every night. BLU Demoman Mad Hatter I can drink and help at the same time! That's amazing mate! It's aaaaaaaaall about stickybombs today! Has two bombs he might place, move or detonate every night. When he dies, his bombs blow up. They count as 1KP. BLU Heavy Veteran I take care of BLU baby men and get hit so they live! I am real hero! Has two night lives. It takes two hits, or 4x0.5KP to take him down. BLU Engineer Role Picker No secrets revealed partner! Has three power to choose from. Might choose only one for the entire game. They are: Refill ammo and life/Doctor/Night Vigilante with 1 bullet. BLU Medic Doctor I've practiced medicine long enough to be sure I can save my dear BLU team mates. Nothing can go wrong when I am on the battlefield! Might protect one person every night. No one is notified about a successful protect. BLU Sniper Night Vigilante This unprofessional bastard from REDs thinks he is the best! He is not a true Australian mate, You need to know that! I've never seen him piss in a jar! Might shoot someone during the night. Has one bullet which counts for 1KP. + Show Spoiler + BLU Spy Day Vigilante ... Might backstab someone during the day by typing ##Kill playername. His Spy-cicle breaks after that. Q&A Is every role guaranteed to be in the game? No. Am I notified about getting hit with 0.5KP? Yes. Can BLU Spy get his Spy-cicle refilled by Engineer if he chooses to be ammo/life refiller? Yes. Can RED get their powers refilled? Yes. What happens if Roleblocker uses his action on a BLU Engineer during N1? Engineer is notified about the RB, but the role he picked goes through. I got burnt by the Pyro! Or did I? If You ever get hit by Pyro, You'll be notified about it. I AM LEADER OF THE TEAM, CAN I DIRECT MY ENTIRE TEAM? Well, no. Every role submits it own action. You can't decide who someone else will do. Example Role PMs: You are rolename! You need to wincondition! You are! Random Kurumi blabbering with engrish. You need to wincondition! Sup I am lazy fuck there's Your role guess what You need to wincon and yeah no colours because that's how I roll Hey listen I am the real PM! Nope. AKA I send pms the way I please. They might be all same. They might be coloured. They might be with italics. They might be with videos. With pictures. With bolded text. 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I don't now what to make of hyaachs claim. This is exactly when he should claim, provided he really is the JK. I don't see why he would lie about the role block regardless of his alignment. This means we're still stuck trying to explain why there was no NK last night. | ||
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@blazinghand: In order for your theory (mafia shot SK) to work, you still have to explain why there was no NK last night. We know he wasn't JK'd, so why would the SK hold his shot? | ||
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There is zero chance of Blazinghand being the town vig at this point. Think about it. If blazinghand really was the town vig, that means that really was roleblocked Night 1. That roleblocker is either scum or town.
In addition to this, a second town roleblocker coming forward during the night would make BH nearly confirmed town. Why would scum chose to kill VE over an almost confirmed town at this point in the game? There's no reason for the scum to do this at all. Now, put it together:
Blazinghand rolled scum this game. And what do we do with scum? ##vote blazinghand | ||
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Also, you never answered my previous question. On June 11 2012 03:53 ghost_403 wrote: + Show Spoiler + I guess everyone is waiting until the hour before for discussion or something? | ||
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I don't argue with people I think are scum. It's a waste of time, and serves to do nothing but clog up the thread. What was meant by my previous post, is that it would be foolish for me to not reexamine the situation given the new information presented to me. @everyone who's not blazinghand: Read my case, and tell me what you think. If you think I'm wrong/high/pants on head retarded, let me know, and we'll figure this out. @blazinghand: stop spamming up the thread. Your goal should be to convince the town that you're town, not me. | ||
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@Artanis: I'm happy to discuss lynching Snarfs, but I really think that we have to take care of blazinghand first. Are you just more certain that Snarfs is scum, or do you think that blazinghand might be town? | ||
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My goals this round are to (A) get blazinghand lynched, because he's scum, and (B) start working towards lynching the rest of the scum. Working towards accomplishing (B), Snarfs seems like a reasonable place to start. | ||
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/j9XkD.gif) Still voting blazinghand. | ||
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Your thoughts on Katina are a bit scattered. You mind consolidating them for us to make the conversation a bit easier? @BH: What are your thoughts on Katina? | ||
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@Artanis: Let me take a look at Snarfs and get back to you. | ||
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One thing that I did note: At the beginning of the game, he requested links to previous games from a few players, and noted that he was going to read up on me as well. He hasn't referenced any previous games in any of his analysis so far. It doesn't look like he did that in Wiggles MMIIIWiggles MMIII either, so I'm not sure what to make of that quite yet. I'll spend some more time thinking about it in the next few days. Lynching BH should give us plenty of time to figure this out. | ||
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We lynch Zelblade today. Then get BH to shoot himself tonight. Yeah, that'll work. This is a good plan. | ||
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BH is bulletproof. New plan. Let's lynch BH, then zelblade. | ||
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If we lynch BH, we lynch someone that admitted to being anti-town. If we lynch zelblade, we lynch someone who we think is anti-town. I have no idea why any townie would chose the first option over the second. | ||
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On June 12 2012 02:14 ghost_403 wrote: And what if you're not the SK? What happens then? You forget, the only thing that we have to prove that you actually are the SK is your claim. There has only been one night kill the entire game so far, so we can't even be certain that there is even an SK in the game. | ||
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On June 12 2012 01:55 Blazinghand wrote: Ok guys, fine. You caught me. I fucked up and you caught me. I am the Serial Killer.+ Show Spoiler + N1 I fired at Furerkip, and was RBed. N2 I fired at VE. I did so because given a town JK and a town RB, it was weird that we'd have a miller. The Mafia haven't killed anyone yet this game. Don't lynch me YET, town. I CAN HELP YOU. I have infinite bullets. I don't know if I still have my night life, but I can at least try to kill a scum tonight, and maybe they won't shoot me anyways because you'll have to lynch me eventually. I know as an SK it's terrible to claim, but if I die today I definitely can't win. Let me help you. I even fuckign crumbed my goddamn SK role cause I thought it might come down to this. I was super sure Mafia RBed me AND shot me N1, too! On June 09 2012 16:32 Blazinghand wrote: Oh, of course, IT TOTALLY MAKES SENSE FOR SCUM TO FAKE A MASON CLAIM. Yeah. Clearly. That doesn't even look like a crumb for a mason claim. What the dicks are you talking about? Like, I don't even know how to argue with this. It's like I'm arguing that a certain belief is epistemologically sound and my opponent is just shouting "grail" at the top of his lungs with no context or explanation as though that's an argument. My crumb is Grail, an out of place word that is a holy vessel-- and Vessels are the signature unit of SK terran. SK = Serial Killer. Yes, I'm not town-aligned. But don't kill me today. Let me help you. My only crumb for the VE kill was that he was the first guy I mentioned in my just-before-day post. I wanted it to be obtuse because I was hoping the town RB would claim and save me, but he's either an ass or he realized i'm the SK. | ||
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"Wow, blazinghand is really scummy, self admittedly antitown, and has made a quarter of the posts in the entire thread." Stop spamming. | ||
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On June 13 2012 01:50 ghost_403 wrote: @shraft: I'm much more interested in why you think we should be lynching zelblade. Blazinghand wrote that solely to save his own skin. Do you really stand by everything that he said in that post? Shraft is the one who doesn't want to discuss it, unless I missed his post between here and the top of the page. | ||
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On the other hand, the town caught a scum Bluelightz during Aperture mafia, and his course of action was simply to leave. I don't think there's enough to lynch him right now, but I do want his explanation for his actions. BH was right, he has been sheeping pretty hard this game. I don't yet know if that's par for the course with him or not. I need some more time to read over his previous games (PYP:Redux, where he rolls scum, and MTGMM, where he rolls town) before I make a decision on what exactly his play this game means. | ||
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Night 1
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This perfectly explains all of the (and lack thereof) nightkills and roleblocks in the game. You need a scum roleblocker to explain Night 1, which leads me to believe that Artanis' claim is legit. If he's lying about it, you'd have to find another way to explain the lack of a scum NK Night 1. tl;dr - Artanis is town or a crafty lying basterd. | ||
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@zelblade: You spent a good portion of this game pushing Furerkip. What are your thoughts on Palmar? | ||
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lolololjkjkjk But his case on Zelblade isn't half bad. People complain about meta a lot, but it's a good place to start looking for scum. Examining his actions this game, you can easily see how a scum could do the things he did. He spends most of the game lurking and playing pretty poorly. That, and his reaction to the wagon forming on him isn't the least bit townie. If Zelblade truly was town, his mislynch would mean him and the town lose the game. Why isn't he the least bit panicked? If my mislynch was going to end the game, I'd be pissed. I think Zelblade can't argue his innocence because he's not, and he knows it. ##vote zelblade | ||
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@Shraft: Navillus is on my short list of people I still need to look into. I should be back later, and I'll look into him then. | ||
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Night 1, checked Hyaach, came back innocent. Night 2, checked Artanis[xp], came back innocent. Night 3, checked Palmar, came back guilty. Night 4, checked MrZentor, waiting for results. I chose to check MrZentor because he typically plays scummy, regardless of his alignment. He's a huge liability here at lylo/mylo/whateveritscalled. I would consider Artanis to be considered confirmed town at this point. With three scum total in the game, I think that both a godfather and a framer are unlikely, so I trust that result. Not only that, he's been playing consistently townie through the entire game. Shraft also strikes me as rather townie, but a lot of the credit I give him is due to his pushing of the BH and Zelblade lynches. He could be a very crafty scum, but I kind of doubt it. MrZentor plays scummy no matter what. I'm trusting whatever result I get tonight, and will act accordingly. Honestly, neither result would surprise me. Navillus was the only one who dared to speak out against the Zelblade lynch. This makes me highly suspicious of him. When scum are put into a situation like that, typically they will split up their actions, so they don't act in a group. I suspect that he drew the short straw, and had to oppose the Zelblade lynch. Honestly, I don't know why they did this considering Zelblade was town. Backup plan? It's very strange, all things considering. Nav is where I'm going to spend most of my analysis time in the coming days, assuming I make it that far. Snarfs hasn't given me a lot to go on, and I'll have to spend some time carefully reading his filter as well. He seems well thought out in his posts, he's on the less scummy side of null, but he's next up for analysis should MrZentor come back green. tl;dr: Gun pointed at my head, and given one bullet, I'd shoot Navillus. | ||
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Night 1: Hyaach - It was pretty obvious that he was next on the chopping block after the Pandain lynch, so I checked him. He came back green, which is why I believed his claim and tried to defend him. Obviously, I didn't want to out myself Day 2, so there was only so much I could do. Claim DT to save a JK when we had no idea what roles were in the game? No. Night 2: Artanis - Honestly, I had a hard time getting a read on him, so I checked him. He was pretty vocal in the thread, so this check gave me a lot to go on. Something that I'm still trying to figure out is what happened to the remaining roleblocks. He claimed to be RB'd Night 2, but no one claimed on Night 3. Kat could have been RB'd. If MrZ comes back saying he was RB'd last night, it's gg. Night 3: Palmar - Palmar gave us nothing to go on, so I checked him. When he came back red, I decided not to claim, because I honestly thought that Zelblade was scum. Palmar positioned himself in thread so he could vote Zelblade, so I figured he was going to bus his teammate. That's why during Day 4, I tried so hard to get Palmar into the conversation. Didn't work, and he was modkilled. Night 4: MrZentor - He plays too scummy, regardless of his alignment. I figured my DT check was best spent here, so I would know how to go forward during today. The final green check meant that there was only two scum left, and two people I didn't know their alignments. | ||
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Also, @scum, thanks for not counterclaiming me. It makes my life so much easier. @MrZentor: I'll tell you like I told Artanis: I got greedy, and didn't claim so I could get off another DT check. Also, my read on Zelblade as being red was cemented by this conversation: On June 15 2012 21:03 ghost_403 wrote: Should have time to catch up on the thread in about an hour. @zelblade: You spent a good portion of this game pushing Furerkip. What are your thoughts on Palmar? On June 16 2012 00:31 zelblade wrote: Well apparently this is over. Sorry town this loss is on me. @ghost My primary reason for pushing the furekip thing was because of the 4 scum thing. Since the game would obviously be over if there was 4 scum im naturally dropping it. His posting and attitude thus far reminds me of town palmar but im fairly unsure. I also typically remain calm in games with one exception where I raged. Meh. Obviously I am fairly annoyed about the situation, but spamming about how lynching me will lead to towns loss does nothing except shit up the thread. Since I apparently managed to miss responding to BH's part 2 earlier. [spoiler] The first part about furekip is obviouslly bullshit since its fairly clear I said assuming 4 scum is not that scummy, but claiming that that information is in the main page when its not is scummy. The question is a nulltell. Obviously scum can do it, but it was just me clarifying stuff. On the ghost meta thing I was sleeping in that period of time. I didnt actually mention it before I went to sleep since I was tired and feeling lazy. I also have no clue why scum would decide to switch from hyaach to BH for no reason when neither lynch would bring any cred come D3. This post is exactly what I would say if Palmar was my scummate. I figured Palmar was going to bus his scummate, and told his scummate to distance himself from the other two scum as much as possible. When he posted this, I asked Palmar and Navillus for their opinions, looking for something I could use to push Palmar's lynch the next day. | ||
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@MrZentor: Same question goes for you. | ||
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I'm pretty sure we're still on 48hr cycles? | ||
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However, no one has reported being RB'd Night 3 or 4, which is very disconcerting. We can believe that the scum RB chose to RB the night kills, but that requires just a bit of faith. Believing Artanis' claim to have been RB'd Night 2 confirms him as town and confirms that my DT checks on both him and MrZentor are correct. I'm still drudging through Navillus' and Snarfs' filters to make sure that I've read them correctly. Navillus' response to my earlier question would help me greatly in my read of him. | ||
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![[image loading]](http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_J0IhdRDEXdg/TUwn34xG74I/AAAAAAAAF6Q/SOHOhKwmM0c/s1600/ShiftyEyes.gif) loljk I'm 90% sure Artanis is right on what to do. I'm going to give it a bit more thought, just to be 100% sure, and post my thoughts a bit before daybreak. | ||
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Also, 1000 post snipe. | ||
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wtf | ||
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tl;dr, seemed like a good idea at the time. edit: also, what jaj said  | ||
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