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ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

June 10 2012 23:29 GMT

#685

If the town RB comes forward, I will reconsider. I'm not holding my breath.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

June 10 2012 23:36 GMT

#688

My goal is to lynch scum. It just so happens that this time, the scum happens to be Blazinghand.

I don't argue with people I think are scum. It's a waste of time, and serves to do nothing but clog up the thread. What was meant by my previous post, is that it would be foolish for me to not reexamine the situation given the new information presented to me.

@everyone who's not blazinghand: Read my case, and tell me what you think. If you think I'm wrong/high/pants on head retarded, let me know, and we'll figure this out.

@blazinghand: stop spamming up the thread. Your goal should be to convince the town that you're town, not me.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

June 11 2012 12:26 GMT

#706

@shraft: MrZ has posted little in the way of content over the course of them game, but I'm leaning bad townie on him. I still have to go back and really cement my read on him, but my gut says lynching him would be a mistake. What do you think about Artanis' case on Snarfs?

@Artanis: I'm happy to discuss lynching Snarfs, but I really think that we have to take care of blazinghand first. Are you just more certain that Snarfs is scum, or do you think that blazinghand might be town?

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

June 11 2012 12:27 GMT

#707

@palmar: I'd really like to hear what you think about Snarfs as well.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

June 11 2012 13:32 GMT

#709

List of things that were scummy about furerkip:

Claimed there were 4 scum in the game.
He was replaced.

My goals this round are to (A) get blazinghand lynched, because he's scum, and (B) start working towards lynching the rest of the scum. Working towards accomplishing (B), Snarfs seems like a reasonable place to start.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

June 11 2012 17:08 GMT

#734

Still voting blazinghand.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

June 11 2012 17:10 GMT

#741

Blazinghand, the only person you've pushed as a lynch target so far today is Palmar. You've been profoundly unhelpful at helping us find scum. This combined with the fact that we need to lynch you anyway makes you the ideal lynch candidate.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

June 11 2012 17:14 GMT

#748

And what if you're not the SK? What happens then?

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

June 11 2012 18:32 GMT

#759

@snarfs: Katina has been tunneling BH pretty hard the entire game, which looks to me like town Katina. If BH flips scum, she's pretty much confirmed town in my book. If he flips SK, she goes to null/town.

Your thoughts on Katina are a bit scattered. You mind consolidating them for us to make the conversation a bit easier?

@BH: What are your thoughts on Katina?

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

June 11 2012 23:22 GMT

#789

@shraft: Which one would you rather lynch and why?

@Artanis: Let me take a look at Snarfs and get back to you.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

June 11 2012 23:42 GMT

#790

@artanis: I'm not seeing Snarfs as scum at the moment. At worst, he's a null, and I have people I'd much rather lynch than him. Zelblade pops to mind.

One thing that I did note: At the beginning of the game, he requested links to previous games from a few players, and noted that he was going to read up on me as well. He hasn't referenced any previous games in any of his analysis so far. It doesn't look like he did that in Wiggles MMIIIWiggles MMIII either, so I'm not sure what to make of that quite yet.

I'll spend some more time thinking about it in the next few days. Lynching BH should give us plenty of time to figure this out.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

June 12 2012 01:02 GMT

#794

I've got an idea.

We lynch Zelblade today.

Then get BH to shoot himself tonight.

Yeah, that'll work. This is a good plan.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

June 12 2012 01:03 GMT

#795

WAIT!

BH is bulletproof.

New plan. Let's lynch BH, then zelblade.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

June 12 2012 01:05 GMT

#800

In order for not lynching you to be good, we would need to lynch scum today and have you shoot scum tonight. You've only given us one scum. Not lynching you still isn't a good trade for town.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

June 12 2012 01:07 GMT

#802

Yeah, no.

If we lynch BH, we lynch someone that admitted to being anti-town.

If we lynch zelblade, we lynch someone who we think is anti-town.

I have no idea why any townie would chose the first option over the second.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

June 12 2012 01:17 GMT

#808

Something I'm still waiting for an answer on.

On June 12 2012 02:14 ghost_403 wrote:
And what if you're not the SK? What happens then?

You forget, the only thing that we have to prove that you actually are the SK is your claim. There has only been one night kill the entire game so far, so we can't even be certain that there is even an SK in the game.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

June 12 2012 01:21 GMT

#810

It's not nearly as conclusive as

On June 12 2012 01:55 Blazinghand wrote:
Ok guys, fine. You caught me. I fucked up and you caught me.

I am the Serial Killer.+ Show Spoiler +

N1 I fired at Furerkip, and was RBed. N2 I fired at VE. I did so because given a town JK and a town RB, it was weird that we'd have a miller.

The Mafia haven't killed anyone yet this game.

Don't lynch me YET, town. I CAN HELP YOU. I have infinite bullets. I don't know if I still have my night life, but I can at least try to kill a scum tonight, and maybe they won't shoot me anyways because you'll have to lynch me eventually. I know as an SK it's terrible to claim, but if I die today I definitely can't win.

Let me help you.

I even fuckign crumbed my goddamn SK role cause I thought it might come down to this. I was super sure Mafia RBed me AND shot me N1, too!

On June 09 2012 16:32 Blazinghand wrote:

Show nested quote +

On June 09 2012 16:24 Hyaach wrote:
Read the quote again its not just about his meta. Its about him failing to pressure Pandain after the fake claim and going up with MrZ

Why bother to argue about game mechanics and balance like Mason claiming

On June 06 2012 11:54 Blazinghand wrote:

On June 06 2012 11:49 Pandain wrote:
1. Blue roles will have more information in executing their actions. There will be 2 less chances for each blue role to waste a check/shot/roleblock on a townie. Times that by the amount of power roles we have and that is a significant deal. We won't be able to do that if they claim at the very end of N1.

We don't have a vigi AND masons AND an additional blue role and you know it.

On June 06 2012 11:49 Pandain wrote:
2. We have more information. This is good, not just becuase we won't lynch the masons, but for all the information that springs out of confirmed townies. Your right, BH, confirmed townies aren't 100% right. But the fact is that they aren't scum, and that lets us make sure town runs the scene, not scum. I'd rather have an idiot town help guide town than any scum.

Given that the lynch seems to have consolidated onto me (or navi), I'd be very, very surprised if a mason somehow revealing themselves would change things today, unless Navi or me are masons, in which case my idea of "don't claim D1 unless you're gonna get lynched" applies quite well.

On June 06 2012 11:49 Pandain wrote:
Masons getting shot = more blue roles able to do stuff.
Blues(if even that) getting shot = we still have confirmed townie.

Right... but one of these two things is gonna happen ANYWAYS. all that claiming NOW does is let scum choose which one. Claiming now is terrible.

On June 06 2012 11:49 Pandain wrote:
Basically we'll have more information, and now. We already (are pretty sure) that VE is a miller, I'm a vig, if we have tow additional masons that = 4/12 people already accounted for! Then factor in individual analysis and guesswork! That's a HUGE deal in lynch one!

1) Whether or not VE is scummy is a function of his play, not his claim.
2) We don't know you're a vigi at the moment, as you yourself have said.
3) all of this works just as well with masons claiming N1 unless a mason is gonna get lynched, in which case they shoudl claim.

MASONS: don't listen to pandain. Don't claim D1 unless you're gonna get lynched.

and what does the bold post shows again? His saving crumbs for a possible fake mason claim as well?

Oh, of course, IT TOTALLY MAKES SENSE FOR SCUM TO FAKE A MASON CLAIM. Yeah. Clearly. That doesn't even look like a crumb for a mason claim. What the dicks are you talking about?

Like, I don't even know how to argue with this. It's like I'm arguing that a certain belief is epistemologically sound and my opponent is just shouting "grail" at the top of his lungs with no context or explanation as though that's an argument.

My crumb is Grail, an out of place word that is a holy vessel-- and Vessels are the signature unit of SK terran. SK = Serial Killer.

Yes, I'm not town-aligned. But don't kill me today. Let me help you. My only crumb for the VE kill was that he was the first guy I mentioned in my just-before-day post. I wanted it to be obtuse because I was hoping the town RB would claim and save me, but he's either an ass or he realized i'm the SK.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

June 12 2012 01:31 GMT

#813

Here's what I'm thinking right now:

"Wow, blazinghand is really scummy, self admittedly antitown, and has made a quarter of the posts in the entire thread."

Stop spamming.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

June 12 2012 12:20 GMT

#822

@Shraft: Give me a good reason to lynch zelblade.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

June 12 2012 16:50 GMT

#827

@shraft: I'm much more interested in why you think we should be lynching zelblade. Blazinghand wrote that solely to save his own skin. Do you really stand by everything that he said in that post?

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