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zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
June 08 2012 10:30 GMT
#441
Or hyaach is scum and got jailed thus resulting in a no kill. (and u got RB'd)

Im reading up filters now.
Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
June 08 2012 10:30 GMT
#442
why would i fake my claim of being RBed if i was mafia. I could have let you slip by. I do not think i was really on the chopping block for today's lynch. Granted I have huge FoS on me. But It does not look good for Zelblade as well.

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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
June 08 2012 10:30 GMT
#443
Like, one of two things happened here:

1) Scum RBed Hyaach
2) Either Hyaach or me is lying.

I see 1 as pretty unlikely. Hyaach doesn't look blue to me. He looks red.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
June 08 2012 10:32 GMT
#444
On June 08 2012 19:29 Shraft wrote:
Hyaach's posting is really messy and, it seems, a bit confused. There's not really much to analyze.
Only thing that stuck out to me when I read his filter was this:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2012 11:15 Hyaach wrote:
I would let VE live for a day unless something really scummy comes out from his play.

it takes huge balls on claim this early, be it fake/real and its not a fool proof plan imo mafia or town.


Besides, from his claim, i would put all his analysis on a magnifying glass to be dismembered and examined piece by piece.

which seems like an easy thing to say to appear pro town without having to do much. (He is not promising analysis, just saying that he will examine VE's posts, which means that he doesn't have to make any follow-up on this statement.) Either way, he has promised analysis and I'm waiting eagerly.

furerkip seems like a bad Epicmafia townie to me. He plays exactly like the townies over there, speaking about "having mislynches", calling VT's "blues", saying that scumslips = scummy play, and speaking about "three way lynches" (a situation much more common in Epicmafia games than in forum mafia). He could maybe be Mafia, but I think that his aggressive posting is quite out of place for a first time (forum) Mafia player.



no i just meant i would take what VE said with a grain of salt till i see a major town read and what i'm getting so far is none.
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zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
June 08 2012 10:33 GMT
#445
How does it make me look bad lolwut?

Also assuming furekip doesnt come back should we lynch him anyway or try to get him modkilled and risk him ningavoting?
Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
June 08 2012 10:36 GMT
#446
btw i'm still here but i'm not talking to this town of zelblade and BH.
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Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
June 08 2012 10:37 GMT
#447
i meant "town"
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Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
June 08 2012 10:44 GMT
#448
Actually to emphasize my point of BH lying

##Vote Blazinghand

no i do not believe you got JK.
I think you got RBed and fail your shot as mafia and trying to pass it off as a vig shot.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
June 08 2012 10:49 GMT
#449
Alright guys I've got a super obvious solution to the BH/Hyaach situation, and it works whether I'm scum OR I'm town. Hear my out.

I'll start with what we know: I think it's pretty obvious one of us is scum. Last night, the shot from scum didn't go through. My shot didn't go through either, but for all you know, that's the same shot. Hyaach and I both claimed RBs, one of which was the JK or Town RBer's RB, and one of which was scum RB. The scum bullet got stopped because either A) the shooter was RBed, or because B) the target was JKed. Now, under condition *A*, either Hyaach or I must be scum. However, given the possibility of a JK, there's a chance that scum inexplicably RBed Hyaach and the JK JKed me, thereby accounting for all the failed NKs.

The only person (besides scum) who knows exactly what happened is the town RB/JK. If the town RBer is an RBer, then he knows exactly what happened: HIS N1 TARGET HAS TO BE SCUM.

Now, town RBer, if you are an RB and not a JK, you COULD claim right now and we could lynch whoever it was you RBed last night. However, if you're a JK, things are different. It's possible that whoever you targeted was actually shot by scum, and scum RBed the other guy.

I think the RBer should claim if, in the debate between me and Hyaach, things go the wrong way. You know who you are, RBer, and if the wrong guy is getting lynched, you can gaurantee a scumlynch instead of a mislynch. If I were in your position, AND if it looks like the wrong guy is gonna get lynched, I'd claim.

Of course, I fully anticipate shutting Hyaach down and getting him lynched, since I'm a better debater and he's pretty clearly scum. So don't worry about roleclaiming yet. Also, if you're a JK and not an RBer, you can't be sure. Maybe scum is shooting into lurkers and your JKing of Hyaach stopped them! But more likely, Hyaach, the guy you JKed, is scum. Your claim wouldn't be definitive like an RBer claim would be.

Don't worry though, hidden blue player. I got it covered. We lynch Hyaach today. He can't be town.

##unvote
##vote: Hyaach
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Shraft
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden701 Posts
June 08 2012 10:51 GMT
#450
On June 08 2012 19:33 zelblade wrote:
Also assuming furekip doesnt come back should we lynch him anyway or try to get him modkilled and risk him ningavoting?

A ninja vote should not be very dangerous. The only scenario where it can make a difference is if we have five votes on someone, and he comes in and drops the deciding vote.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
June 08 2012 10:51 GMT
#451
Just to be clear: If you're a JailKeeper, DO NOT CLAIM. If you a Town RoleBlocker, only claim if the wrong guy is gonna get lynched today.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
June 08 2012 10:52 GMT
#452
On June 08 2012 19:51 Shraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2012 19:33 zelblade wrote:
Also assuming furekip doesnt come back should we lynch him anyway or try to get him modkilled and risk him ningavoting?

A ninja vote should not be very dangerous. The only scenario where it can make a difference is if we have five votes on someone, and he comes in and drops the deciding vote.


Yeah and honestly if he shows up in hour 47 and drops a vote, that's basically him claiming scum. I think right now we have basically a scumclaim from Hyaach so there you go.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
June 08 2012 10:54 GMT
#453
I can't possibly imagine what logic motivated Hyaach to claim an RB today.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
June 08 2012 10:58 GMT
#454
You are the better player and debater. Can you not figure it out by now?
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zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
June 08 2012 10:59 GMT
#455
Since snarfs asked here are my thoughts on ghost.

I dont think that ghost is scum for now. He has been making (what I feel are valid) accusations against both furekip and zentor. I am somewhat certain furekip is scum from the no. of mafia thing, and whilst it is possible, dont think that ghost would push furekip that early and dump some suspision on him when most of the thread felt he was probably town. Of course this read is a little weak due to furekip's alignment being in question in itself but I am quite certain that furekip will flip scum.

Regarding hyaach I found his first post coming off as a little off, which is primilarly why I questioned it. Might have been due to the fact the post was somewhat unclear, but I did find him saying that claiming miller (optimal move imo) took "balls" a littler wierd. Its wierd that he tries to push attention onto me + furekip when snarfs calls him out of lurking. I also highly doubt scum would RB him and its actually more likely that hyaach got JK'd.

zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
June 08 2012 11:00 GMT
#456
On June 08 2012 19:51 Shraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2012 19:33 zelblade wrote:
Also assuming furekip doesnt come back should we lynch him anyway or try to get him modkilled and risk him ningavoting?

A ninja vote should not be very dangerous. The only scenario where it can make a difference is if we have five votes on someone, and he comes in and drops the deciding vote.


What I mean is us lynching someone else instead and hoping he gets modkilled (for not voting).

Shraft
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden701 Posts
June 08 2012 11:01 GMT
#457
Forgive me if I'm dumb, but isn't it possible that town has a medic as well? You shoot furer, got roleblocked by town/scum RB, Hyaach got roleblocked for whatever reason, and medic saved the other (mafia/vig) target?
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
June 08 2012 11:01 GMT
#458
On June 08 2012 19:59 zelblade wrote:
I also highly doubt scum would RB him and its actually more likely that hyaach got JK'd.


If Hyaach was JKed, then we have two possibilities: either scum shot him, or he is scum.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
June 08 2012 11:02 GMT
#459
On June 08 2012 20:01 Shraft wrote:
Forgive me if I'm dumb, but isn't it possible that town has a medic as well? You shoot furer, got roleblocked by town/scum RB, Hyaach got roleblocked for whatever reason, and medic saved the other (mafia/vig) target?


There aren't any medics in the setup, just JKs, from what I read in the OP.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
June 08 2012 11:03 GMT
#460
Lets put it this way: If scum shot hyaach ill eat my hat. IRL.

[insert pic here]
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