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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
June 13 2012 09:25 GMT
#541
just did it, off to bed for realz this time. night!
SUNSFANNED
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
June 13 2012 09:26 GMT
#542
On June 13 2012 18:17 BrownBear wrote:
Secondly, do you have any reason for thinking Radfield is town other than "he agrees with me"? If so, please say it.


Radfield gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside. His entire demeanor looks like townie Radfield. He wasn't lying when he mentioned that I generally had a good read on him early in games. I can usually tell when Rad isn't being townie-Rad, there's just something about the way he's posting that feels strange, but I'm not seeing much of that strange this game.

I'd prefer if he started posting more decisively, but I don't think he's being indecisive in a scummy way.

The reason I think/thought you're scum (bb) is not that you disagreed with me about the RL. While historically it's mostly been scum who has opposed a RL, it's in no way proof that someone is scum. And it also seems strange (if you're scum) to be so willing to reconsider your position on people, that's fairly unusual.

The reason I was out for you was mostly your overreaction to me calling you useless, which you in all honesty were at that point in the game, you even made excuses for your inactivity, so it seems like a really defensive and self-aware move to actually become insulted when someone calls you useless when it's true.

I'm not sure, what are your thoughts on gonzaw BB?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
June 13 2012 09:27 GMT
#543
On June 13 2012 18:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
Enlighten me now that it's day Palmar. Why is Radfield doubly confirmed?


read post above. I think it's very unlikely Rad is scum.

btw, I noticed I actually forgot about Hesmyrr in my night post... that's not good for him.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
June 13 2012 09:32 GMT
#544
YOU'RE BOTH SCUM AREN'T YOU!!??!????
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
June 13 2012 09:32 GMT
#545
you're insane.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
June 13 2012 09:36 GMT
#546
That's the shittiest reason for someone being double confirmed I've ever fucking heard Palmar.

First of all there's NO REASON behind it. It's all based on your "fuzzy feeling". You're known as a man of logic. These two things don't match up. You don't give any reason WHY his indecision isn't indicative of scum, because from my perspective that's exactly what makes him scum.

I'm going to ask you one more time, and you'd better fucking give me a good answer.

Why is Radfield town?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
June 13 2012 09:37 GMT
#547
cause I said so
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
June 13 2012 09:38 GMT
#548
##Unvote: Radfield
##Vote: Palmar

I'll make a case if I feel like it.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
June 13 2012 09:41 GMT
#549
lol
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
June 13 2012 09:43 GMT
#550
For the record, I think this is bullshit. Its 5:44am here. I stayed up SPECIFICALLY to discuss shit with you, because I thought you were town.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
June 13 2012 09:44 GMT
#551
Can you write a case though? I want to see how far your confirmation bias can take you, I also want some ammo to call you bad with for later games.
Computer says mafia
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
June 13 2012 09:44 GMT
#552
Luckily, now that I know that was retarded of me, I can get some sleep cause I don't have to work until noon!

Night thread! Lynch Palmar or Radfield. They're both scum.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
June 13 2012 09:48 GMT
#553
On June 13 2012 18:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
For the record, I think this is bullshit. Its 5:44am here. I stayed up SPECIFICALLY to discuss shit with you, because I thought you were town.


I can't discuss with you if you've decided my strongest townread is scum. Also, you've played with me often enough as scum to know that your conclusion is very unlikely, as you know my default scum strategy is bus my entire team from day 1. It's sort of reasonable, but probably wrong, to think Radfield is scum, or that I'm scum. But it's very strange to think we're scumbuddies.

There isn't even a reason for me to defend him unless I genuinely think he's town, as if we were mafia buddies, your case wasn't gaining any traction yet, compared to people wanting to lynch for example Hesmyrr.

You can think I'm scum and that I'm defending Radfield to make him feel warm and fuzzy
You can think Rad's scum and that I'm just plain fucking wrong
You can hardly think we're both scum, especially in a game where all it takes is a random SK shot to flip one of us, incriminating both.

The simple solution is that we're both town.
Computer says mafia
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
June 13 2012 09:50 GMT
#554
That's why I'm asking you to explain your read and you gave me that shit Palmar wtf? You fucking know me, my reads aren't written in stone. If I'm one thing, it's willing to vote for someone else. Gonzaw's reasoning for thinking Rad is town is even shittier than yours, so I COULD be convinced to vote for him....but YOU HAVE TO CONVINCE ME THAT I'M WRONG ABOUT RADFIELD.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
June 13 2012 09:51 GMT
#555
I don't think you're scum, I'm fucking pissed and tired. I think Rad is scum and he's playing you like a fucking fiddle.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
June 13 2012 09:53 GMT
#556
Go read my case Palmar. I know you didn't because it's long. Please do so and then tell me why you think I'm wrong.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
June 13 2012 09:58 GMT
#557
Read your own case again, just instead of looking at your points from the direction of "Why would town Radfield do this", and instead look at "Would scum Radfield do this?".

You read his first post suggesting we lynch Ace and think "that's a bad suggestion, why would town radfield do that? He's better than that". But you forget about the alternative, there is also no reason scum radfield was going to do do that. Do you think Scumfield thinks he can get Ace lynched by this logic? Do you think scumfield is dumb enough to do that shit with no chance of success?

Arguing with Ace is also kinda reasonable. Ace is always useless and takes stubborn asshole stances early in the game. Loads of townies argue with me all the time because I'm an asshole, that doesn't make them or me scum, it simply means they've invested something in the game.

In addition, do you think it's likely scum would spend the night arguing with someone they were going to shoot in the daypost anyway, thus confirming their stance of view? Risking that seems also something scumfield would have no reason to do.

Now, there is a tiny chance he's the SK, I have never known how to scumhunt for SKs. But to me the really simple way of dealing with things is to assume he's town, which he most likely is.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
June 13 2012 09:58 GMT
#558
I read your case. I actually read the games when I'm town, although I admit I've skimmed some of gonzaw's posts.
Computer says mafia
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
June 13 2012 10:01 GMT
#559
On June 13 2012 18:58 Palmar wrote:
Read your own case again, just instead of looking at your points from the direction of "Why would town Radfield do this", and instead look at "Would scum Radfield do this?".

You read his first post suggesting we lynch Ace and think "that's a bad suggestion, why would town radfield do that? He's better than that". But you forget about the alternative, there is also no reason scum radfield was going to do do that. Do you think Scumfield thinks he can get Ace lynched by this logic? Do you think scumfield is dumb enough to do that shit with no chance of success?

Arguing with Ace is also kinda reasonable. Ace is always useless and takes stubborn asshole stances early in the game. Loads of townies argue with me all the time because I'm an asshole, that doesn't make them or me scum, it simply means they've invested something in the game.

In addition, do you think it's likely scum would spend the night arguing with someone they were going to shoot in the daypost anyway, thus confirming their stance of view? Risking that seems also something scumfield would have no reason to do.

Now, there is a tiny chance he's the SK, I have never known how to scumhunt for SKs. But to me the really simple way of dealing with things is to assume he's town, which he most likely is.


You didn't read my post Palmar try again, I state exactly why scumfield would do the things he's doing. It very specifically involves you and your magical townread on him.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
June 13 2012 10:03 GMT
#560
I read it, but for obvious reasons I have to ignore any argument that involves me being bad at mafia.
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