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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
On June 03 2012 08:56 Kurumi wrote: Don't shoot why? That's it. I had some doubts but prplhz is dead for sure. Because I have a town read on him. Switching from multiple candidates is not scummy behavior if actual legitimate reasons are provided. And the reasoning prplhz provides is adequate. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On June 03 2012 08:52 talismania wrote: Hmm ok. The reason I asked was because I feel like you were actually articulating the optimal scum strategy. I was thinking about the hiropro push yesterday and how that was based entirely on the notion that scum would want to vote 1-1-1 to be as safe as possible from any analysis of the way votes were cast. Then I realized that the actual best scum strategy would be to do what you posted - get everyone in town to vote for one role, then blend in among the votes. Furthermore, in that case they would know exactly what roles to give town (you were arguing for godfather at the time - which means you were arguing essentially for town to receive a useless tracker). And there was still plenty of discussion d0. Yea I thought about how the tracker power would be useless, at least until the godfather was dead. But the tracker role would be useful all the time because he could claim and even though he didn't have any power it's unlikely that scum would fake claim tracker 'cause depending on how the game would turn out they could get outed. This is of course true for all roles, but all roles include the tracker. I still think that godfather was a pretty decent pick but I agree with Radfield that roleblocker was actually better. I think framer was a bad pick. | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
On June 03 2012 09:03 HiroPro wrote: Because I have a town read on him. Switching from multiple candidates is not scummy behavior if actual legitimate reasons are provided. And the reasoning prplhz provides is adequate. There are no legitimate reasons. Zephirdd is fine, huh? | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
On June 03 2012 09:06 Kurumi wrote: There are no legitimate reasons. Zephirdd is fine, huh? My personal feeling is that he is scum. But he has claimed blue "I'm amazed that I wasn't lynched. Thankfully Rad noted what I did there." and people seem to believe him. I don't think he is a good shot target for tonight. If he continues to play the way that he has so far, then he is scum in my opinion and I will push for his lynch. But I think today it is best not to take a shot. | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
On June 03 2012 09:13 HiroPro wrote: My personal feeling is that he is scum. But he has claimed blue "I'm amazed that I wasn't lynched. Thankfully Rad noted what I did there." and people seem to believe him. I don't think he is a good shot target for tonight. If he continues to play the way that he has so far, then he is scum in my opinion and I will push for his lynch. But I think today it is best not to take a shot. It's not a blue claim/slip whatever lol So I kill prplhz and we lynch Zephirdd tomorrow, easy | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
On June 03 2012 09:19 HiroPro wrote: Honestly, I don't know what to tell you. You disregard everything I say so it doesn't even matter. I just believe my vigilante skills cyriandor v2 is coming up | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On June 03 2012 08:31 prplhz wrote: @Radfield If the vigilante is like "Should I shoot prplhz or should I shoot risk.nuke?" then what would you advice him to do? I'm pretty ok with a shot on you prplhz, but I haven't actually done the legwork to confidently direct a shot. As far as risk.nuke, he will either step up his game or not, but so far he has simply done nothing, which is null by definition. I also feel like I have a pretty good feel for risk.nuke's play, and can adequately determine his alignment as the game goes on. There is something I would like to post just prior to the deadline. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On June 03 2012 10:28 Toadesstern wrote: this time I will ninja YOU Rad :p I'll believe it when I see it  | ||
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
 deadline in 3 mins | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
First, he has 100% blueclaimed at this point, we simply don't know his role: This: On June 02 2012 02:49 Zephirdd wrote: Get off me; pushing me is the worst move you can do atm. plus this and this: On June 02 2012 08:12 Radfield wrote: Particularly because he basically blueclaimed. Lets let mafia take care of him, there is absolutely no need for us to lynch someone who is bluehinting: On June 03 2012 01:20 Zephirdd wrote: I'm amazed that I wasn't lynched. Thankfully Rad noted what I did there. Is a 100% blueclaim. This means that come morning Zephirdd needs to be dead, roleblocked or have a (hopefully verifiable) claim for us. Pretty much anything else means he is scum. Honestly, his play this game has been quite scummy, and apart from him blueclaiming he would have and should have been lynched. If he manages to live through the night, and in particular if he lives, and someone else is roleblocked, he should be lynched. I am posting this at the last minute, because I don't want mafia to switch their actions around to somehow frame zephirdd by leaving him untouched. They know what roles we have, and hence know if we have any roles which can be self-confirmable. The one possibility is that if we have a medic, and mafia have no roleblocker, they might leave zephirdd alive. Apparently bluelightz isn't getting any actions either.... so he might live because of that too...  I don't have any exceptionally strong reads yet, but I think Hiropro and talismania are both town. Sbrubbles looks good too. Bugs does not look particularly good. | ||
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