Bang Bang Mafia 2 - Page 52

On June 16 2012 03:27 MrZentor wrote:
The only reason you'd do that as mafia is if you knew I were a blue, but I'm not.

The only reason you'd do that as town is if you were confident that I was scum and didn't have a gun. I'm obviously not the godfather as rastaban posted, so you're betting your life on having the correct read on me. -.-

I hate to sound fickle, but I'd rather shoot Payl. :/

On June 16 2012 02:47 Toadesstern wrote:
What happened yesterday:

1. Supersoft asks me what I think about Talis
   
2. I say he is suspicious and scummy
   
3. Supersoft quotes a post from PYP that was done PREGAME, aka before alignments were out
   
4. I tell him "dude, Talis is super scummy but that is the only post in talis filter that isn't scummy because it's a PREgame post, aka it's not alignment indicating because he didn't even have an alignment back then. You can't take that as a reason to consider him scummy although he is scummy for every other post in his filter"
   
5. Supersoft says we should not lynch Zentor / Payl because I am GF bussing Payl and Talis, which apparently makes Payl an incredible bad target for whatever reason and therefore he shoots Talis instead of Payl or me
   
6. I am therefore mafia because I agreed with his read on Talis, just not with his reasoning because he quoted a pregame post and because I am bussing Payl.

Am I really the only one who fails to understand the logic here?
Also so far noone (except for Zentor who did the most ridiculous "case" I've ever seen) explained why I am mafia. Well and Supersoft said I am GF because I think Talis and Payl are mafia, because that's clearly the reasonable explanation here.

On June 16 2012 03:38 Toadesstern wrote:


You shoot me or you're dead. It's simple as that. I posted this one:


and people ignore it because they think that reasoning makes sense. If that's what people think I don't care about it because the only way to show people how retarded they are is to shove them my green head into their face.

You just said I am mafia and although you never mentioned it, it looked like I'm your best read so far and yet you're willing to shoot payl instead, the guy I am pushing while you are convinced that I am mafia.
You want to shoot payle instead, the guy that Supersoft (read: the guy who shot mafia yesterday) considered to be a bad target and after telling everyone and their mother to shoot payl he suddenly realized shooting him was incredible bad (aka: he thought he's town) and therefore shot talis instead.

And you tell me you'd rather shoot payl than me?

On June 16 2012 03:45 rastaban wrote:



What do you care who he shoots then, you are not making any sense. If he shoots you and you flip green, is he suddenly innocent? If you are so sure he is red then shoot him and let the blame fall on you, the fact that you want to give him a chance to shoot mean you think he might not be red. I think think there is a high chance he is red but very low that he is GF, so if he shoots at all he is clear for now in my book. If he really can shoot I would much rather him shoot someone who is scum instead of you who ( unlike marv ) I think is probably town. I want him to Shoot Payl or Cephiro that would make me happy, as it clears his name. Now if he can't shoot then yeah, toad go ahead and kill him but trying to tell him to shoot you if he can gets us no where as it is no different than him shooting someone else and if he can shoot we just get a dead townie.

On June 16 2012 04:00 MrZentor wrote:
...........................................MRZENTOR
........................................./.......................\
....................................is mafia...............is town
.......................................|..............................|
............................doesn't have gun...........has gun
.........................../..........................................|
...doesn't shoot tomorrow....................shoots somebody
.................|.........................................../...............................\
........gets shot in the face.....who is probably mafia......who is probably town
.................|........................................|..............................................................\
........1 dead mafia.....MrZ is town and we might get a mafia.............MrZ is town and we shot a town person for no reason

That was fun.

On June 16 2012 02:47 Toadesstern wrote:
What happened yesterday:

1. Supersoft asks me what I think about Talis
   
2. I say he is suspicious and scummy
   
3. Supersoft quotes a post from PYP that was done PREGAME, aka before alignments were out
   
4. I tell him "dude, Talis is super scummy but that is the only post in talis filter that isn't scummy because it's a PREgame post, aka it's not alignment indicating because he didn't even have an alignment back then. You can't take that as a reason to consider him scummy although he is scummy for every other post in his filter"
   
5. Supersoft says we should not lynch Zentor / Payl because I am GF bussing Payl and Talis, which apparently makes Payl an incredible bad target for whatever reason and therefore he shoots Talis instead of Payl or me
   
6. I am therefore mafia because I agreed with his read on Talis, just not with his reasoning because he quoted a pregame post and because I am bussing Payl.

Am I really the only one who fails to understand the logic here?
Also so far noone (except for Zentor who did the most ridiculous "case" I've ever seen) explained why I am mafia. Well and Supersoft said I am GF because I think Talis and Payl are mafia, because that's clearly the reasonable explanation here.

On June 16 2012 05:07 Zealos wrote:

Something about this post seems very scummy, and I don't really know what it is...

On June 16 2012 05:18 Toadesstern wrote:

probably the fact that I am kind of assuming I am mafia in that post to show how it's not making sense?

On June 16 2012 05:34 Zealos wrote:
It's like you half twist other peoples, and your own words to make you seem mafia, while subtly trying to get me on your side. It's really weird.

Toad
Talis: Honestly no idea. I just played with him in PYP and we were both mafia. He's more confident than he was in PYP imo. I'd say a null overall because I've got vibes in both directions so far.

On June 15 2012 07:56 talismania wrote:
Why have you ignored the part where gonzaw had a greencheck on supersoft?

Toad
Gonzaw was a DT who's sanity is not confirmed. The green check on Supersoft is not alignment indicating.
The chance for gonzaw to be sane is something like 50% and the chance for him to be insane is about 50% as well (as he can't be paranoid). So we have a coinflip on Supersoft because that check means nothing.

On June 15 2012 08:09 Toadesstern wrote:

the thing is that he played pro-town as mafia in PYP. Which means you're accusing him to play pro-town and willing to lynch him on that idea?
I'm pretty sure he would have done the same post as town in PYP and I'd rather take a look what wether or not he's explaining himself when taking stances.