EPTraging goblin has the best flavor text of all time. you leave that shit right where it is
He raged at the world, at his family, at his life. But mostly he just raged.
/in btw
did you cut me in line?
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raging goblin has the best flavor text of all time. you leave that shit right where it is He raged at the world, at his family, at his life. But mostly he just raged. /in btw did you cut me in line? | ||
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On May 21 2012 08:16 wherebugsgo wrote: Reason exposes deception.I fail to see how giving advice as a means to begin the way is in any way scummy. On May 21 2012 18:11 Tunkeg wrote: The best ideas often come from the worst minds.Game thus far have been moving along very slowly. I think I prefer that over the spamfest some games turns into. Unlike those spamfest games, lurking is a viable strat for scum in a this game. That is why I think we got a couple of scum among those who haven't posted yet. So Mattchew, HiroPro, MouldyJeb, Katina, zelbalde and Froggynoddy please make your presence known, so we can find the scums among you. On May 21 2012 07:17 Navillus wrote: Giant-sized body. Goblin-sized brain.Hey WBG, you're one of 2 vets in this game that I recognize from my last games here like half a year ago, and the other already has 2 votes on him. Also everyone knows that giving advice is scummy so ##Vote: Wherebugsgo On May 21 2012 17:09 Acid~ wrote: I'm suspicious of both Acrofales and Nova_Terra. Acrofales, the fact that you and Mattchew were on opposing teams the last three games is exactly the definition of coincidence, which makes your accusation completely random. Also it seems that the only person you are not suspicious of is Nova, my other candidate for scum. Nova, why would you think it's a good idea to kill a veteran d1 unless you somehow knew he wasn't on your team? On May 21 2012 18:37 Mouldy Jeb wrote: hi- now my presence is known. saying "get rid of a veteran" indicates that you are worried that an experienced Mafia player will either weasel you out~ if your mafia or kill you if you are not so due to this rash decision to get rid of competition so on that note #vote:Nova_Terra On May 21 2012 20:54 Mouldy Jeb wrote: tera~ this game is full of people jumping to conclusions so don't get a bit pissed  On May 21 2012 21:39 Mouldy Jeb wrote: an apt point, i was making a split second judgement I'm not saying I'm against you I'm just stating at that time you seemed to have the most random vote based only on the fact he was a vet. also my vote isn't by far final On May 22 2012 00:31 Nova_Terra wrote: Seems very unsure of himself; town should be sure On May 15 2012 19:47 froggynoddy wrote: /in if this game starts after end of LIV. Otherwise /out Suffer the little creatures, for they may yet rise up and beat you senseless. "Throw rocks at 'em Throw spears at 'em Throw Furt at 'em" ##vote Mouldy Jeb | ||
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On May 22 2012 03:45 Nova_Terra wrote: + Show Spoiler + On May 22 2012 03:18 Mattchew wrote: Reason exposes deception. The best ideas often come from the worst minds. Giant-sized body. Goblin-sized brain. Suffer the little creatures, for they may yet rise up and beat you senseless. "Throw rocks at 'em Throw spears at 'em Throw Furt at 'em" ##vote Mouldy Jeb Mattchew, can you please clarify your thoughts a bit? What do you find scummy, what do you agree with, so on and so forth? Goblins don't know the meaning of the word "tactics"-or the word "meaning," for that matter | ||
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On May 22 2012 04:55 VisceraEyes wrote: Guilty until proven innocent? Sounds just fine. ##Vote: Nova_Terra On May 22 2012 05:09 wherebugsgo wrote: Nova subscribes to the notion that if you accuse everyone in the game, any accusation against him is OMGUS. If you're town, stop being disruptive and start using your head. Otherwise, you die today. ##vote Nova_Terra The hardest lessons to grasp are the ones you've already learned. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=331187&user=255225¤tpage=1 | ||
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"What rainbow could possibly come of this rain?" —Asmira, Holy Avenger Mouldy Jeb's Filter Silent as a serpent, twisted as a lone bog tree, evil as Tojira's heart. | ||
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On May 22 2012 06:03 marvellosity wrote: ##Vote: Mattchew I just can't bear it. On May 22 2012 05:37 Navillus wrote: Next ##Unvote ##Vote: Mattchew As far as I can tell he's just posting with flavor text from mtg cards, if that continues I don't really care if he's scum or town it makes him impossible to read, doesn't let him contribute, and makes for a really shitty atmosphere. Mattchew stop it. "The Argivian University taught me two things: always look to the past, and never dismiss what appears useless." —Hanna, Weatherlight navigator | ||
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On May 22 2012 07:27 marvellosity wrote: Guys. Look at Nova's filter in LIV where he was also town (and where I won on your behalf, Katina dearest). Very similar. Not convinced by his lynch at all. He gives credit where credit isn't due. | ||
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On May 22 2012 10:44 marvellosity wrote: no u My point is that townies should in general strive to be as lucid and clear as possible. Don't give a flying two hoots what you think, if Mattchew just talks in plain text, it will achieve this better than speaking in MTG speak or whatever. Frankly I'm bored with the sheer quantity of townies who seem to not want to do this. Hence the vote. "Pain is a crude way to enforce obedience, but it is cheap and plentiful." —Volrath | ||
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On May 22 2012 12:38 VisceraEyes wrote: I for one think it's adorable. Mattchew, what do you think about marvellosity's play so far, in general? The irritable drakes are solitary nesters. Even brooding females barely contain the urge to attack their own young. | ||
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On May 22 2012 13:23 HiroPro wrote: Mattchew: I didn't mind the flavor at first, but it's starting to get kind of irritating now. Can you please post normally. And can you indicate "yes" or "no" to my question: On May 22 2012 03:18 Mattchew wrote: ##vote Mouldy Jeb | ||
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On May 22 2012 14:23 Nova_Terra wrote: You should give credit where it is due; I'm playing my town meta spot on, i've contributed, pressured, and encouraged activity by example, which is more than half the players in the game have done althoughh im surprised marv didnt join the Nova Scumwagon as well On May 22 2012 05:15 Mattchew wrote: The hardest lessons to grasp are the ones you've already learned. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=331187&user=255225 | ||
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On May 22 2012 21:30 marvellosity wrote: I wouldn't mind him dead. I just came from playing scum in LIV where 3/5 of my team were mod-killed and we still scored a convincing victory with the entire fucking town voting with me to kill another townie at LYLO, making a total of 6 consecutive townie mislynches and 0 scum lynches. Why? Because useless townies are useless and make easy lynch bait. Ideally I'd want someone to shoot Nova tonight. "Kill the weak so they can't drag the strong down to their level. This is true compassion." —Benzir, archdruid of Temple Might | ||
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On May 22 2012 22:22 Mouldy Jeb wrote: early game i suspected nova because of rash decision making from his part and myself assuming the worst, matchew voting for me which wasn't given a viable explanation so i would be inclined to vote for matchew due to his random train of thought against others ## vote:mattchew It reeks of terror and chaos. | ||
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On May 22 2012 22:41 Mouldy Jeb wrote: yeah i had a feeling (OOOH AAAH) that that wasn't going to be understood, to explain, originally he voted for me for a reason he has yet to conger up then because of that random vote i felt that he was having a random vote so i voted for him. as a result of this he is trying to incriminate me by the whole "it reeks of terror and chaos shit"~~short and simple i don't like him i think he's scum trying to save his ass. "In a town shaped by the subtle machinations and political intrigue of its guilds, it's reassuring to see a goblin waving his torch and screaming about some nonsense or other." —Agrus Kos On May 22 2012 15:34 wherebugsgo wrote: Katina, for the third time: how confident are you that nova is scum? On May 22 2012 17:36 VisceraEyes wrote: If I haven't taken control yet, then it's not about that time. Patience is a virtue. Night TL. The bigger they are, the harder they avoid work. | ||
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On May 22 2012 23:01 marvellosity wrote: + Show Spoiler + Just had a good go over Mouldy and I think he might actually be a pretty good lynch. On May 21 2012 18:37 Mouldy Jeb wrote: hi- now my presence is known. saying "get rid of a veteran" indicates that you are worried that an experienced Mafia player will either weasel you out~ if your mafia or kill you if you are not so due to this rash decision to get rid of competition so on that note #vote:Nova_Terra I don't understand this. An experienced mafia player would kill nova as a prime target? Unlikely. On May 21 2012 20:54 Mouldy Jeb wrote: tera~ this game is full of people jumping to conclusions so don't get a bit pissed This implies that his previous post was 'jumping to conclusions'. Basically admitting his last post was rubbish. On May 21 2012 21:39 Mouldy Jeb wrote: an apt point, i was making a split second judgement I'm not saying I'm against you I'm just stating at that time you seemed to have the most random vote based only on the fact he was a vet. also my vote isn't by far final He's voting for him, but he's not against him? A final sentence indicating he's happy to back down from his vote. Then why make it? Just because other people are doing so? On May 22 2012 07:10 Mouldy Jeb wrote: mattchew, just because im considering that my vote may have been based on an ill judgement doesn't mean im scum just means ill have to wait till tomorrow to consolidate all the evidence from each persons posts to conjure up a decision on who to vote for. Ok, we're gonna have evidence consolidated from each person's post leading to a reasoned vote. Glad to hear it. On May 22 2012 22:22 Mouldy Jeb wrote: early game i suspected nova because of rash decision making from his part and myself assuming the worst, matchew voting for me which wasn't given a viable explanation so i would be inclined to vote for matchew due to his random train of thought against others ## vote:mattchew Gonna have to disagree with Mouldy on what consolidated evidence means I think. "inclined" to vote based on "random train of thought against others" - what does this even mean? It rather seems he's jumping on an easy wagon that's already started, because he's been voted against by said player, with a nonsensical reason. On May 22 2012 22:41 Mouldy Jeb wrote: yeah i had a feeling (OOOH AAAH) that that wasn't going to be understood, to explain, originally he voted for me for a reason he has yet to conger up then because of that random vote i felt that he was having a random vote so i voted for him. as a result of this he is trying to incriminate me by the whole "it reeks of terror and chaos shit"~~short and simple i don't like him i think he's scum trying to save his ass. ??? Overall - votes for Nova and admits it wasn't a proper vote, wishy washy about what the vote meant - basically his posts are just setting himself up to back down from the vote on Nova. A promise of consolidated evidence instead followed by a vote with a barely understandable explanation. Also going back to my earlier posts, he is hard to understand and does not post his thoughts clearly (well, actually he seems not to have clear thoughts anyway). At this time I would prefer a Jebjeb lynch. His posting both seems scummy while at the same time hard to understand. ##Unvote: Mattchew ##Vote: MouldyJeb "We plant the seeds of doubt to harvest the crop of wisdom." | ||
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On May 23 2012 00:21 marvellosity wrote: So people, what do we think of Zealos? He votes on MouldyJeb who he thinks is bad town. He tells me he doesn't have a strong scumread. Then he reiterates that in fact Mouldy IS a strong scumread, even though he is likely town (seriously, wtf). Contradictions abound. One part cunning, one part wise, and many, many parts demented. | ||
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On May 23 2012 01:01 Nova_Terra wrote: Mouldy; you pointed out some serious wtf stuff. I'm leaning scummy on him. Zealos I think is just awful town. I don't think a scum could play like that. Hurts me inside "Your strategy is marvelous. I've just made a few minor adjustments." —Veris, watcher of Indi Keep | ||
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On May 23 2012 01:01 Nova_Terra should have wrote: Mouldy; you pointed out some serious wtf stuff. I'm leaning scummy on him. Zealos I think is just awful town. I don't think a scum could play like that. Hurts me inside "Your strategy is marvelous. I've just made a few minor adjustments." —Veris, watcher of Indi Keep | ||
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On May 23 2012 01:29 marvellosity wrote: What in particular makes you lean town on one, scum the other? Zealos + Show Spoiler + On May 22 2012 23:15 Zealos wrote: Lol. Gotta say I agree, I just don't understand what he's talking about o.O Terrible town, or terrible mafia imo. ##vote: MouldyJeb On May 22 2012 21:30 marvellosity wrote: I wouldn't mind him dead. I just came from playing scum in LIV where 3/5 of my team were mod-killed and we still scored a convincing victory with the entire fucking town voting with me to kill another townie at LYLO, making a total of 6 consecutive townie mislynches and 0 scum lynches. Why? Because useless townies are useless and make easy lynch bait. Ideally I'd want someone to shoot Nova tonight. "Um . . . oh . . . what was I saying?" —Reveka, wizard savant Mouldy Jeb + Show Spoiler + On May 21 2012 18:37 Mouldy Jeb wrote: hi- now my presence is known. saying "get rid of a veteran" indicates that you are worried that an experienced Mafia player will either weasel you out~ if your mafia or kill you if you are not so due to this rash decision to get rid of competition so on that note #vote:Nova_Terra On May 21 2012 20:54 Mouldy Jeb wrote: tera~ this game is full of people jumping to conclusions so don't get a bit pissed On May 22 2012 07:59 Mouldy Jeb wrote: your doubts deceive you my friend i am indeed a noob but i never said i was voting for mattchew lol i mean i was simply stating that my indecision doesn't substantiate a reason for me to be voted for. On May 22 2012 22:22 Mouldy Jeb wrote: early game i suspected nova because of rash decision making from his part and myself assuming the worst, matchew voting for me which wasn't given a viable explanation so i would be inclined to vote for matchew due to his random train of thought against others ## vote:mattchew Some roads are paved with bad intentions. | ||
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On May 23 2012 01:54 Acid~ wrote: Nothing much to say. They make a good case against NT, but I'm tempted to agree with VE when he says that it feels too easy. "What is worse than a wolf in sheep's clothing?" —Wolfhunter's riddle | ||
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On May 23 2012 02:25 Acid~ wrote: In a strange twist of fate, one of the most annoying creatures in the multiverse was brought to the place where it could cause the most damage. "You're trespassing in my reality. Ask permission next time." —Simun the Quiet | ||
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On May 23 2012 04:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Katina (1): froggynoddy "You've thrown your net at the wrong fish." —The Lord of Atlantis | ||
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On May 23 2012 05:43 VisceraEyes wrote: Jeb are you scum or town? If you're town, who do you find suspicious and why? "Unanswered prayers are themselves answers."—Nantuko teaching | ||
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On May 23 2012 21:10 zelblade wrote: will probably present my thoughts tomorrow. On May 23 2012 06:10 Navillus wrote: WhyNT I have a semi-strong town read on @WBG/VE Riches must be divided, but real wealth can be shared. + Show Spoiler + The pain is so great, he can't help but share it with others. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/fgpyX.jpg) Dwell longest on the thoughts that shine brightest. | ||
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On May 24 2012 02:45 Zealos wrote: "What is mana but possibility, an idea not yet given form?"—Jhoira, master artificerWhat are you feelings on ET if we eliminate past games? The hardest lesson for any elf to learn is humility. It takes a giant to teach that. | ||
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On May 24 2012 04:09 VisceraEyes wrote: + Show Spoiler [The Entire Zealos Case] +Mattchew what do you think of Zealos after marvel's case? I found it pretty convincing myself...I was already a little suspicious of him though so it wasn't going to take much. On May 23 2012 23:18 Zealos wrote: Could I just point out how "Active" Marvel has been all game, without making any real cases himself. He seems very good at pointing out problems, asking questions and what not, but I want to know who you want to kill and why Not to mention from the very start he distances himself from Acro, instead of trying to make himself look more innocent: I understand the reasoning, but it seems like a free copout for acro's scummy posting. Not to mention he makes a lot of small posts with very little use for them other than to seem active. (ironic) The point is, useful townies don't use the thread as a place to have a conversation, they use it to root out scum. So Marvellosity, you've got 4 bullets in your gun, who dies and why? Big ones hunt the elves, so the elves hunt the small ones to keep them from getting big. | ||
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On May 24 2012 05:09 Nova_Terra wrote: what do his cute quotes have anything to do me and him being scumbuddies in your mind this IS MTG mafia... "There are those who accept being told what to do, what to think, and what to say. Then there are the Folk of An-Havva."—Reyhan, Samite Alchemist | ||
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On May 24 2012 12:35 VisceraEyes wrote: wherebugsgo I realized after my back and forth with Bugs and Hiro that I'm allowing my emotions to rule the way I look at the game. As a result, I've gone back to try and objectively look at the people I'm suspicious of. But as soon as I opened up wherebugsgo and started reading his filter, I realized that this post would ultimately be about wherebugsgo (more specifically, about his first post). I took a look at his advice post. I have to say, I'm a little disturbed with what I saw. Generally I overlook posts like this when they come from veteran players, mainly because it's typically common sense stuff that I at least am already aware of and have read several times every game. So, admittedly, when I was defending Bugs for posting this initially, I was doing so having not fully read the actual post. That being said, all in all none of what he gives is TERRIBLE advice (in general) but I have a couple of problems with some of his advice. 5. Medics/JK: don't bluehunt, just protect the most sensible townies. At first, I thought this sounded pretty good, but then I thought about the source: who is likely to be the most "sensible townie" at the end of the day? I'll give you a hint - it's an anagram of George W Bush. Regardless of alignment, wherebugsgo is going to be playing like a vanilla townie. Why? Because as a town blue-role, that's the most successful way to play. As scum, that's the most successful way to play. As any role imaginable, that's the most successful way to play. wherebugsgo is a very crafty individual, and so to me #5 actually reads something like "don't bluehunt, just protect me" based on the knowledge I have of wherebugsgo's typical play. If he had said this at the end of the day, I wouldn't have blinked...but saying it at the beginning of the day, planting the notion right at the outset of the game comes across as playing with an agenda. 6. Vigis: don't be MrZentor (case in point: Game of Thrones) Again, having cohosted GoT I was aware of what he was talking about so I didn't really think about the implications of this piece of advice. However, upon reflection, this feels really out of place in the rest of his (semi-reasonable) advice. Look at the tone: in the points previous when directing blue roles, he gave fairly sound reasoning behind saying the things he is - but not when directing the vigs. He left it up to the reader to discover the reasoning (giving a player and a game and expecting the reader to do the legwork). This is similar to a scum tactic I'm always looking for - bloating up their perceived activity while simultaneously causing the accuser to look bad for "not reading" - "L2READ N00B I answered that already" instead of simply repeating what was already said in an earnest attempt to be understood. Anyway, all general advice and all stuff most of you should know, but read it over anyway. This has been touched on by others, but I'd like to reiterate that if this was all "general advice and all stuff most of you should know", then why post it in the first place and why instruct everyone to "read it anyway"? The obvious answer, as Nova_Terra would tell you (again) is "Because he could be scum pushing an agenda"…which is precisely what I think is going on. Is it possible that it's just a coincidence that scum went blue-hunting last night? Sure, it's possible…but it's my belief that it was planned from the beginning that scum weren't going to be aiming for analysts or "townies making sense" last night - they were going to be blue-hunting last night. Is it possible that Bugs was just trying to make a light-hearted jab at MrZentor (someone not even playing this game) in his advice to Vigs? Sure that's possible, but not likely considering A) Zentor isn't in this game and B) given the tone of the rest of his post (cold, analytical advice), the "joke" seems out of place. That brings us to his word of advice concerning dealing with VE. I don't support policy lynching but I do agree we should keep an eye on VE because his play can be quite erratic. If he's the focus of attention as either alignment it becomes very difficult to discern what he is. So for now I think we should look elsewhere so we don't have that problem, and let VE decide for himself what he wants to do. The thing that gets me is the disconnect between the two bolded statements. If everyone is "keeping an eye on me" then I'm going to be the focus of attention. But if I'm the focus of attention, I'll be "more difficult to read" yeah? Ultimately, he says to "look elsewhere", but not before already casting the shadow of doubt on me in his very first post. So yeah, even this is suspect to me, and NOT because it's about me. Because it's contradictory and doesn't make any sense. ##Unvote: Zealos ##Vote: wherebugsgo Let's do this bugs. Not later. Now. 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On May 24 2012 12:47 VisceraEyes wrote: Unless you wanna drop the act and come talk to me about why, then mind your business...this is between me and the jerk. "What you are attempting is not against the law. It is, however, extremely foolish." | ||
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On May 24 2012 02:24 Mattchew wrote: "Thoughts are commodities. Someone will pay a good price for them. Even ones as simplistic as yours . . ." —Ennor, mentalist@WBG/VE Riches must be divided, but real wealth can be shared. + Show Spoiler + The pain is so great, he can't help but share it with others. Dwell longest on the thoughts that shine brightest. | ||
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Lurking below the current, she thirsts until others come to drink. On May 23 2012 21:10 zelblade wrote: A chain of lies as strong as steel.will probably present my thoughts tomorrow. On May 22 2012 23:51 zelblade wrote: Whilst sheeping isnt neccessarily a scumtell, I dont like how jumpy his vote has been, going from person to person On May 23 2012 00:00 zelblade wrote: "I'd be happy to stop contradicting you, Urza, just as soon as you start being right." —Bo Levar, planeswalkerApparently I screwed up that quote tag -_- Eh I just realised its pluarity lynch lol. I am considering if I should dump my vote on zealos and see if it gains any traction or onto one of the three leading candidates. Kind of a hard decision since I wouldnt mind all of them dying. Mattchew is still being a pain in the ass, though his posts are starting to get understandable, and he actually has more content than say, mouldy jeb. Probably not the best lynch today, think hes town. I still think nova is scummy. But mouldy more so. Agree with marv's case generally. ##vote: Mouldy Jeb | ||
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On May 25 2012 02:10 VisceraEyes wrote: For the record Bugs, you play every single game like a fucking asshole where I'm concerned. Every. Single. One. So you'll forgive me for thinking that you're "intentionally trying to aggravate me" every game, when you can't civilly play a game with me ever. I respect your skill more than you know, but it's gotten to the point where I literally can't stand playing with you. You treat me like some kind of raw newb every single game, and it's old now. "Your presumption is your downfall." | ||
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On May 25 2012 02:21 VisceraEyes wrote: because I'm trying to have a serious conversation here and you're still trying to turn it around on me to discredit anything I say in this game. You're posting with a purpose, pushing an agenda...the more you post, the clearer that becomes to me. On May 25 2012 02:10 VisceraEyes wrote: For the record Bugs, you play every single game like a fucking asshole where I'm concerned. Every. Single. One. it's gotten to the point where I literally can't stand playing with you. | ||
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On May 25 2012 02:41 VisceraEyes wrote: et again Bugs doesn't need to be held to the same standards as the rest of us. I'mdone being surprised. On May 25 2012 02:36 VisceraEyes wrote: I don't have ONE post on Bugs marvel, to get the entirety of my case you have to read my filter marvel. I'm sorry if you don't want to do that, I understand if you're "pressed for time" or whatever, but the whole of my thoughts on Bugs is in my filter...it's not a case, but an ever evolving train of thought that keeps growing more and more certain. Am I the only one who sees the patterns in the overlapping maps and conflicting reports. | ||
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On May 25 2012 02:57 Katina wrote: As for Mattchew, I mean really? Do I even have to explain why I think he's scum and want to lynch him? He has been completely ignoring me when I have called him out. Wait. He ignores just about everything and only comments when he has a qoute for it. He's not being helpful at all to the town and it annoys me that he is still alive and not being considered for the lynch. Others have commented on how annoying his qoutes are but yet no one has felt the need to vote for him. "If you want to test wisdom, offer it to fools and watch how they tear it up." + Show Spoiler [ALL THAT CONTENT THAT I'VE IGNORED] + On May 23 2012 07:21 Katina wrote: I think for tomorrow's lynch candidates should be Mattchew or N_T On May 24 2012 03:53 Katina wrote: You know Mattchew, your quotes are cute and all but I can't help wonder what your motivation is for doing so. The games I have played in with you are nothing like this. Are you and N_T Mafia buddies? + Show Spoiler [no one has felt the need to vote for him] + On May 22 2012 06:03 marvellosity wrote: ##Vote: Mattchew I just can't bear it. On May 22 2012 05:37 Navillus wrote: Okaaay so my WBG vote was a joke, I do not actually think it's a good idea to lynch one of our 2 vets on that basis alone and I am not really of the opinion that advice is an automatic scum-tell, it'd be nice to have a little benefit of the doubt on me not being an idiot. Next ##Unvote ##Vote: Mattchew As far as I can tell he's just posting with flavor text from mtg cards, if that continues I don't really care if he's scum or town it makes him impossible to read, doesn't let him contribute, and makes for a really shitty atmosphere. Mattchew stop it. On May 22 2012 18:11 Tunkeg wrote: I am not sure if I can call this a case. But I really want to lynch Mattchew today. I don't have a long analysis on him, because well it is impossible to deceipher what he is saying. But my reasons are: - He lurked through the entire start of the game. - When he bothered to post it was all trollposts. - I see his play as totally anti-town. And I can't see a reason to why a townie would behave this way, unless they don't care about the game at all. Am I sold on the fact that he is scum. Not necessarily. But together with NT and Zealos he is the one I have the scummiest feeling about. The difference between Mattchew and these guys is that they are actually posting thing that you can analyse, and this can either strengthen the suspicioun on them or lessen it. For Mattchew he will probably keep this up the entire game, and whether town or scum really mess up the scumhunting environment. So I want to lynch Mattchew because he is as likely to be scum as the other two, but losing him if he is town is far better than losing the other two if they are town. There is one arguement for not lynching him though, and that is: Would really scum draw this much attention to themself? Most likely not, but in TL Mafia where disruptive players never get lynched it would be a viable strategy. ##Vote Mattchew | ||
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On May 25 2012 03:05 wherebugsgo wrote: Mattchew would you be willing to play seriously from now on out? Your posts are incredibly annoying in their current form, and given how few people are actually playing to win it'd be nice if we didn't have to wade through more difficult nonsense. Not all silences are easily broken. | ||
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On May 25 2012 03:06 Mattchew wrote: "If you want to test wisdom, offer it to fools and watch how they tear it up." + Show Spoiler [ALL THAT CONTENT THAT I'VE IGNORED] + On May 23 2012 07:21 Katina wrote: I think for tomorrow's lynch candidates should be Mattchew or N_T On May 24 2012 03:53 Katina wrote: You know Mattchew, your quotes are cute and all but I can't help wonder what your motivation is for doing so. The games I have played in with you are nothing like this. Are you and N_T Mafia buddies? + Show Spoiler [no one has felt the need to vote for him] + On May 22 2012 06:03 marvellosity wrote: ##Vote: Mattchew I just can't bear it. On May 22 2012 05:37 Navillus wrote: Okaaay so my WBG vote was a joke, I do not actually think it's a good idea to lynch one of our 2 vets on that basis alone and I am not really of the opinion that advice is an automatic scum-tell, it'd be nice to have a little benefit of the doubt on me not being an idiot. Next ##Unvote ##Vote: Mattchew As far as I can tell he's just posting with flavor text from mtg cards, if that continues I don't really care if he's scum or town it makes him impossible to read, doesn't let him contribute, and makes for a really shitty atmosphere. Mattchew stop it. On May 22 2012 18:11 Tunkeg wrote: I am not sure if I can call this a case. But I really want to lynch Mattchew today. I don't have a long analysis on him, because well it is impossible to deceipher what he is saying. But my reasons are: - He lurked through the entire start of the game. - When he bothered to post it was all trollposts. - I see his play as totally anti-town. And I can't see a reason to why a townie would behave this way, unless they don't care about the game at all. Am I sold on the fact that he is scum. Not necessarily. But together with NT and Zealos he is the one I have the scummiest feeling about. The difference between Mattchew and these guys is that they are actually posting thing that you can analyse, and this can either strengthen the suspicioun on them or lessen it. For Mattchew he will probably keep this up the entire game, and whether town or scum really mess up the scumhunting environment. So I want to lynch Mattchew because he is as likely to be scum as the other two, but losing him if he is town is far better than losing the other two if they are town. There is one arguement for not lynching him though, and that is: Would really scum draw this much attention to themself? Most likely not, but in TL Mafia where disruptive players never get lynched it would be a viable strategy. ##Vote Mattchew | ||
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This thread has gotten so retarded you have forced me to actually type. Katina, you are dumb because you think there is a case against me. VE, you are dumb because you are blinded by outside the game influences like your dislike towards WBG (and vice versa) and the notion that for the game to be balanced you cant both be town. You may stop bringing these up, but you can tell they are there by how unbelievably forced everything you have done regarding WBG is. Marv you are dumb for asking me repeatedly for a case on zelblade and then ignoring it completely. The rest of you are dumb because you are letting this all happen or lurking. This is a threadwide OMGUS. | ||
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Zealos might not be the best player but atleast he keeps his promises (despite barely any pressure to do so) and I don't think his case on hiropro is half bad. NT most recently fought against a VE and WBG shitstorm. I can't see the scum motive in that. Zelblade is scum, no one actually wants to read his filter or say otherwise. and VE, I don't think WBG is scum because IDC if he ignores you. Ever since you said it wouldnt be balanced for you to be on the same team, you have had a completely skewed direction of questions and accusations at him. He also is not letting you cause the shitstorm for w.e reason you so desperately want to start. | ||
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On May 25 2012 03:24 VisceraEyes wrote: Mattchew guy...my case has nothing to do with balance. Bugs has been manipulative and contradictory...the fact that you say that my case has ANYTHING to do with balance then you're obviously not even reading. you have been so contradictory too it blows my mind. The only reason I think your town is because of how you are pushing your read. When I look at your case you say he is manipulative in his advice, but look at the fucking playerlist, this group needs advice. Also, his advice about MrZentor is solid because mrzentor herp derped and shot and never claimed it, and then like tried to claim shooting again or some shit. He was basically the worst vig ever. His contraction is not a contradiction at all. Focusing on someone is WAY different then keeping an eye on them. Focusing on someone means putting them in the spotlight, while keeping an eye on them is just watching them (almost secondarily) as the game progresses. You not realizing this is just showing how clouded your thoughts on the matter are. | ||
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On May 25 2012 03:28 wherebugsgo wrote: You realize that in order to kill someone in this game, you have to convince them of your correctness? In other words if you want us to kill zelblade over zealos then you should convince us to kill him instead of telling us to convince you to not kill zelblade. It's called burden of proof; the burden of proof is always on the person making the assertion. If you make the assertion that zelblade is scum, then YOU should be the one to explain it. No one is obligated to show you why zelblade is innocent or whatever. As town I don't even know if zelblade is innocent. Anyway, the case on Zealos has already been put forth; read Marvellosity's filter. If you don't want to do that then I don't see how you expect to win, as reading is mandatory to do almost anything else in a game of mafia. You call the zealos case not strong. What parts of it are weak? discuss zelblade with me | ||
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On May 25 2012 03:43 Tunkeg wrote: This can very well be the scumteam. NT, Mattchew and Zealos where my strongest day one scumreads. And I think you are perfectly right about WBG, I get a stronger and stronger feeling that he is scum. I also find it wierd that Mattchew suddenly start posting, now that you are fireing at WBG. Makes me think that the scumteam have decided that he needs to start posting and help out WBG. So even if these guys are giving you a hard time don't give up VE. They do it because they are scum. If you think I am still scum after I stopped posting in flavor text with NO pressure and in an effort to focus the thread and not let it erupt in chaos, you are either scum or really stupid | ||
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On May 25 2012 03:43 Katina wrote: Thank you for joining us Mattchew <3 what did you want me to answer? | ||
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On May 25 2012 03:43 Katina wrote: Thank you for joining us Mattchew <3 and where is this alleged strong case against me? On May 25 2012 03:13 Katina wrote: I think N_T and Mattchew come first. The cases against those two are much stronger than Zealos. | ||
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On May 25 2012 02:08 Mattchew wrote: Zelblade Filter Lurking below the current, she thirsts until others come to drink. A chain of lies as strong as steel. "I'd be happy to stop contradicting you, Urza, just as soon as you start being right." —Bo Levar, planeswalker | ||
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On May 25 2012 03:53 marvellosity wrote: Nothing in comparison to Zealos, as outlined. the difference is i don't see the scum motive in zealos's faults | ||
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On May 23 2012 21:10 zelblade wrote: will probably present my thoughts tomorrow. | ||
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On May 25 2012 03:57 marvellosity wrote: You don't see the scum motive, in for example, saying I couldn't defend myself for Acrofales and then later accusing me based on it? You don't see the scum motive in, say, lynching a townie because he didn't have any reads despite the fact he could have made them? You don't see the scum motive in him saying there was nothing scummy to see, and then waking up AFTER the lynch and finding such things? Are you blind? you cant defend yourself against them (cause you arent him), but that doesnt mean they cant be used and should be thrown away like they never happened. (Acro gave me my initial townread on you guys btw) I don't know what you are referring to with your 2nd point. I don't know when he actually sleeps so idk why that matters. Also, I think it would have been easier for him as scum to just sit idle and let the thread go wild then to make the comments he did. He doesn't seem stubborn with his reads or thoughts, which I find to be pretty telling that he doesn't have much information. | ||
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On May 25 2012 03:59 marvellosity wrote: I am not voting for zelblade when the entirety of the case against him is that he said he would probably post reads and he hasn't. That's not enough. Are you blind? | ||
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On May 25 2012 04:06 marvellosity wrote: Alright, let's do zelblade. Something came up in his life and he couldn't play mafia. Oh look town motivation. Shall we discard both cases now? Why would he point something out as being scummy (jumping around) and then in his next post name 3 players and vote a new one (who 2 of his scum reads were also voting) | ||
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On May 25 2012 04:11 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm not sold on Zelblade either. Why? | ||
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On May 23 2012 00:00 zelblade wrote: Apparently I screwed up that quote tag -_- Eh I just realised its pluarity lynch lol. I am considering if I should dump my vote on zealos and see if it gains any traction or onto one of the three leading candidates. Kind of a hard decision since I wouldnt mind all of them dying. Mattchew is still being a pain in the ass, though his posts are starting to get understandable, and he actually has more content than say, mouldy jeb. Probably not the best lynch today, think hes town. I still think nova is scummy. But mouldy more so. Agree with marv's case generally. ##vote: Mouldy Jeb Also I am going to sleep soon (school) so I probably cant change my vote (deadline sucks for me as usual -_-). Everyone he is accusing in this post (and basically the entire game) is also voting Mouldy Jeb | ||
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I like zealos, he posts as if he has nothing to hide and like he is hiding nothing (if that makes sense). I don't think we should lynch him I think acid is fairly similar in style so I don't really want to lynch him either. I think hiropro is unusual and compensating for something with his aggression I think zelblade is scum and more people should be on him I think froggy and katina are blending in well and would make great vig targets I think marv is overconfident, but this seems to be par the course of his town meta I don't know if tunk is scum or stupid, but I dont think I'd be willing to lynch him today to find out | ||
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On May 25 2012 06:05 wherebugsgo wrote: if he has nothing to hide why is it that whenever marvellosity makes a big post on him, zealos only responds to one small thing that he said? maybe he realizes that his answer would be the same regardless of alignment and that better things can be conversed about... or maybe because he doesn't give a shit about the case against him and posts on other things... or a different reason that i do not know I don't care about his lack of defense, I care about his reads and what he has posted | ||
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On May 15 2012 09:43 Mattchew wrote: woah woah woah woah woah raging goblin has the best flavor text of all time. you leave that shit right where it is He raged at the world, at his family, at his life. But mostly he just raged. | ||
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On May 25 2012 01:24 Nova_Terra wrote: Hi, im going to take a brief bit of time to go over my favorite for todays lynch, Katina. Note the word brief, her filter is 12 posts. 6 of which is 1 or 2 liners. Now lets go and check a game where Katina was scum, TL Mafia LIV. In her filter: Posts at the same rate as this game, aka lurking (until she gets modkilled day1) posting aggressively when she actually posts quoting to look like shes contributing to quote katina, What is she doing this game? ... ... Same thing! First post Okay, so immediately we have complaining about other peoples votes while offering nothing, saying theres nothing to scum hunt with (yeah thanks for that) a Navillus scummy bandwagon, and a promise for some closer look soon. Only a day and 3 hours later does she actually make a post with any sort of "closer look". Second post Then we have a wonderfully awful case against myself, decides to link me to another player and therefore i am mafia (lolwut) This post is also wonderful because once gets accused of lurking... NO LOOK I WAS HERE BEFORE READ READ READ WHY U NO READ So so far we have a silly case and vote that adds suspicion to players with no logical reasoning, getting defensive when called out on totally true lurking, and meta that is the exact same as her last games scum meta Oh cool, now we have a secondary target being thrown out, but not only is this post throwing out a secondary target... Its pretty much doing the same thing as Katina was pointing out here, and more importantly shes asking for someone to do the dirty work for her. Im not sure we should but he should be suspicious everybody notice i do stuff. Now heres the first real "closer look post" First part of the post is literally the exact same excuse as LIV where she says that she had a busy night so apologies apologies, good job Then is this awful reasoning that i am scum, looks like to me once she realized that my vote got sufficient traction it was time to bandwagon a real reason for hers Problem is, the reasons are bull. So right now it appears that she opposes pressure (apparently pressuring a veteran isnt ok) and its a problem that i picked at "everyone" (actually 6 people, 15 people in town. i dont see the problem). Furthermore, as she had just been in a game with me, i would assume she knows how i post spammily and this shouldnt be surprising to her. Unless she rolled scum, and is bullshitting, that is. Apparently its a bad thing to not only focus on 1 or 2 players (what? trying to limit a vote where there is no no-lynch?) Then theres a couple worthless short defenses of herself. then this wonderful gem: ..... Not only is this completely stupid to have not seemed to read the thread, she says that my spam is similar to a game i played mafia in But wait, i was just in a game with you where i was town AND I SPAMMED So now shes just throwing shit to try to get a nice mislynch, doesnt matter if it makes sense as long as it casts suspicion, amirite katina OWAIT NOOOO dont get me wrong im not trying to say that hes scum because of it! im just suggesting its a possibility11!!!!! Do i seriously need to explain this Then theres some wonderful sheeping on the "mattchews posting is cute but maybe hes scum" Good job saying nothing original (again) WIFOM: Katina was one of ET's main suspects that he was fine with lynching, but wasnt noticed very much Same meta as scum Katina [b]##Vote: Katina this is a good case, sorry i missed it. more people should read this and give their thoughts | ||
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On May 25 2012 06:36 marvellosity wrote: Because a one or two word opinion is worth everything? What do you think of this guy? townie. What about him? stupid. Who is scum and with what reasoning? Mr moobumballs because the sun is low in the sky. Great. You cannot possible be this fucking stupid, the entirety of day 1 I pushed mouldy jeb, I guess now I wish I had pushed someone else, but I don't think any of my reasoning was flawed (I mean why would a townie knowingly die and not give ANY reads)... This is because i thought he was scum and we only have 1 lynch. At night I gave my overall reads incase i were to die. Shut the fuck out up about being unclear, you have more meaningless one liners than I do dipshit | ||
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On May 25 2012 06:41 marvellosity wrote: I also have more meaningful content than you, you douchebag twat. this is highly debatable | ||
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On May 25 2012 06:43 VisceraEyes wrote: He's got you there Matt - you've only just started typing and calling people stupid - I barely call what you were doing before "meaningful content". However well I was able to understand what you were saying, most people didn't even want to try and that makes your contributions during that phase meaningless. Entirely, actually. um, so now im blamed for people not wanting to put 2 seconds of effort into the reading my posts? | ||
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On May 25 2012 06:45 froggynoddy wrote: @Matt: you feel like your Roleplay style was as clear as writing in sentences, yet you switch to playing normal once you see that you need to intervene forcibly. This implies that even you found it hard to communicate all that needed to be said. theres only so many MTG cards too chose from. I was running out and there's not many that say STOP THIS SHIT RIGHT NOW | ||
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On May 25 2012 06:46 marvellosity wrote: I just don't know in what world posts like this are supposed to be clear or helpful: It meant that I thought a. the zealos case on you was basically nothing (due to the spoiler title) and b. that you were both town pissing at each other in an attempt to find scum | ||
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On May 25 2012 06:52 marvellosity wrote: Sorry froggy, my bad. I missed the memo where forcibly and artificially limiting your own content was a pro-town thing to do. remember that time you signed up for a Magic the Gathering themed mini game? | ||
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On May 25 2012 04:49 VisceraEyes wrote: NO WAIT I'M GOOD WITH A ZELBLADE LYNCH! ^^ why did you post this | ||
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On May 25 2012 07:25 VisceraEyes wrote: Is he one of two people that you're okay with lynching Marvel? If not then I prefer to keep my thoughts about Acid to myself if that's okay with you. what do you find scummy or bad about zelblade | ||
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I think they are all smart Humility ##unvote ##vote Zealos | ||
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On May 25 2012 21:05 Zealos wrote: Tunkeg clearly isn't mafia, he's just a godawful town. there is no way anyone who doesn't know tunkeg's alignment would come to this conclusion stick with the zealos vote | ||
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On May 25 2012 21:17 marvellosity wrote: Mattchew - do you accept zelblade's real life excuse and what he's posted? How has his return altered your read? he hasn't posted anything that made me ready to give him a green background but I don't really think he's the best lynch today also, that quote from ver isn't fitting for this situation.... noone is "someone who appears so unbelievably guilty" in this game, despite how strong you may believe your case and read on Zealos are. I mean look at all the counter examples, like acro from GoT who had a red check, from a confirmed (dead) DT. He went down swinging until his last moments (he tried so hard, it got him modkilled) | ||
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On May 26 2012 00:43 Zealos wrote: Was hoping at least one of the vets would pick up on this... you are not claiming detective... are you | ||
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On May 26 2012 02:56 marvellosity wrote: No, you're a liar, like you've been lying all game. This is Mafia LI all over again. Day 2 VE is under heavy fire. Comes out with a blue claim while bussing his team-mate. Team-mate gets infinite town credit (had the game not ended). This is what is happening here. Whichever of Zealos or Hiro gets lynched, the other is going to get massive town credit. It's so see through. heres where im baffled about you voting zealos, if he's scum like you think, hiro is scum too. if hes not scum, your lynching our detective, while you coulda been lynching a red-checked hiro | ||
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On May 26 2012 03:20 Katina wrote: Hi guys, I'm going to be really busy today but I will try and post if and when I can. So a N_T lynch isn't going to happen today it seems. Sigh. In that case I'm for a Zealos lynch. His arguments with Hiro have been cluttering up the thread and causing a lot of other posts to get buried. Just like the issues with WBG and VE. I'm suspicious of him so I'm casting my vote ##Vote Zealos Sorry N_T I voted. </3 + Show Spoiler + Also any argument that I'm lurking is pretty ridiculous. Just because I don't spam and make 15 posts a day like half the players doesn't mean I'm lurking. Quality over quantity people. You have to be kidding me. 1. you aren't reading 2. you aren't posting ANYTHING of quality. literally not ONE of your posts has anything worthwhile in it. 3. you start with an excuse of why you aren't posting, and then claim to be reading and posting quality posts. is this one of them? where has this "quality" over quantity taken place. WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT | ||
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I REALLY WANT EVERYONE TO LOOK AT THIS AND THEN RECONSIDER VOTING ZEALOS On May 26 2012 03:20 Katina wrote: Hi guys, I'm going to be really busy today but I will try and post if and when I can. So a N_T lynch isn't going to happen today it seems. Sigh. In that case I'm for a Zealos lynch. His arguments with Hiro have been cluttering up the thread and causing a lot of other posts to get buried. Just like the issues with WBG and VE. I'm suspicious of him so I'm casting my vote ##Vote Zealos Sorry N_T I voted. </3 + Show Spoiler + Also any argument that I'm lurking is pretty ridiculous. Just because I don't spam and make 15 posts a day like half the players doesn't mean I'm lurking. Quality over quantity people. You have to be kidding me. 1. you aren't reading 2. you aren't posting ANYTHING of quality. literally not ONE of your posts has anything worthwhile in it. 3. you start with an excuse of why you aren't posting, and then claim to be reading and posting quality posts. is this one of them? where has this "quality" over quantity taken place. WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT | ||
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this makes no sense its GoT all over again at worst we lose a VT in hiro at worst we lose a Det in Zealos I don't understand | ||
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anyway... I already said that I was gonna look like shit should Zealos flip scum. Now I do and thats understandable, I soft, hard, and every other way defended Zealos. I will say that I have been in a bunch of games where a claimed blue was mislynched (VE in LII, Risen in GoT come to mind) and I did not want to be part of this again. As for Tunkeg's case, it is literally just a recapping of what I did before the lynch (taking 1 post out of order) and then having only 1 opinion on 1 post (which was a question to the mods). Also, he brings up this post + Show Spoiler + On May 26 2012 03:08 Mattchew wrote: heres where im baffled about you voting zealos, if he's scum like you think, hiro is scum too. if hes not scum, your lynching our detective, while you coulda been lynching a red-checked hiro | ||
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On May 26 2012 22:21 VisceraEyes wrote: Where the piss IS Mattchew anyway? :/ my 2 posts before were at 3:45am... its now 12:30pm... take a guess where the piss I was On May 26 2012 23:02 marvellosity wrote: Yes, and my post there shows how that wasn't the case... Hiro didn't have a single vote but that does not mean he was above suspicion, so this is once again you thinking for others from your own perspective. I would be more interested in those that voted Zealos after the hiro voters stopped. You know the people that didn't want to jump on the zealos bandwagon until he was the sure lynch | ||
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On May 27 2012 02:34 Katina wrote: Okay first of all, I'm really tired of people (WBG) assuming I'm mafia because of my Meta I have said myself I have been busy. Stuff kept coming up this week, that's what happens when you have a "Life". I am sorry I couldn't be more active. Secondly the two people I have been gunning for (N_T and Mattchew) are doing nothing but constantly bashing me. N_T is so focused on getting me lynched he is completely distracting himself from the forum. Mattchew is butt hurt because I got him to crack and stop using his quotes. Third, I realize that Zealos claimed. I was fine lynching him as I stated in one of my posts before that. So me voting for someone I thought was scummy is considered Mafia? I love the logic behind that. I apologize for not spewing out random votes and cluttering up the thread like a lot of you do. Everyone is so focused on me for stupid reasons when there are so many scummier people. Omg you have a "life"... whats that like? I'm sure that no one else on the forum has things going on outside this game Bashing you? I haven't seen NT bash you once, he has however called you scum, so have I. I am not "butthurt" about you making me post regularly, I am "butthurt" about how unbelievably terribly you are playing if you are town. Your reasoning for thinking Zealos was scum was just so clear HOW COULD I HAVE MISSED IT, I mean you easily have the most quality posts in the whole thread detailing out your thought process, asking pressing questions of others and sharing your cases and reads on other players. Your right, a vote with literally no reasoning is totally not spewing out a random vote. Also, posting reads thoughts and haveing conversations with players about the game in the thread is totally just clutter. | ||
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On May 27 2012 02:47 Katina wrote: I have been posting my reads and thoughts. Not my fault you don't have the attention span to actually read the posts. You don't even need to really. All you do is end up coming right back at me. Where. talk is cheap, show me some examples | ||
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On May 27 2012 03:05 Katina wrote: This is a continuation of my case against N_T as I said, read my filter honey. Were you too busy making quotes to read the thread day 1? sweetheart, please stop using pet names to talk down to me, and I have read your filter, a lot, k puddin? your NT case is that he spams and thinks you are scum. You cant actually think this is strong. you don't even point out an example of him being inconsistent, yet you just conveniently list it against him. You also downplay his case by not responding to it, instead you just put quotations around it. Your case on me is even worse, you say I was ignoring you. You posted this + Show Spoiler + On May 23 2012 07:21 Katina wrote: I think for tomorrow's lynch candidates should be Mattchew or N_T On May 24 2012 03:53 Katina wrote: You know Mattchew, your quotes are cute and all but I can't help wonder what your motivation is for doing so. The games I have played in with you are nothing like this. Are you and N_T Mafia buddies? Is this really considered quality to you? | ||
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On May 27 2012 08:04 VisceraEyes wrote: Cool. I'll be brief. I want you to lynch me if you PROMISE TO LYNCH BUGS NEXT. Everyone seems to think either Bugs or I am scum or that we both are. As such, if you guys have a handle on this outside the two of us, I prefer you just get us out of the way first so whoever is left is confirmed whatever. Please guys, no one is going to listen to anything I say at this point and I'm just a distraction. Remove it. Also I'm the Doctor, so if you don't lynch one of me or Bugs, I'm dead tonight anyway. Gg guys, sorry I allowed Bugs to mindfuck me so hard this game.  where has anyone said their thoughts on you or bugs | ||
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On May 27 2012 08:45 Nova_Terra wrote: now heres the thing. VE is going to heal me now. if i die, VE is scum, or maybe hell dispute my claim a ton now. unless teres a roleblocker and/or VE is scum i'll have another read for next day. why would you say this anytime that is not 2 seconds before the deadline | ||
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On May 27 2012 08:49 Nova_Terra wrote: didnt realize there would be such massive pushing against a hiro lynch and i hadnt planned on claiming until VE claimed not the claim... all the wifom crap about you getting shot | ||
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On May 27 2012 08:13 VisceraEyes wrote: No I haven't been breadcrumbing...I'm paranoid about scum figuring them out before town whenever I roll blue :/ N1 I protected froggy and N2 I protected Tune...I literally flipped a coin between him and Marvelous | ||
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VisceraEyes vs Wherebugsgo and Nova_tera vs HIropro We have the 2 claims of VE (Doc) and NT (Det). I firmly believe that ANY BLUE ROLE SHOULD COME FORWARD AND CLAIM NOW, ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE ONE OF THESE 2 ROLES. Also, I believe we should be voting on the NT vs Hiro case because we get a confirmed scum out of the claim (NT if Hiro flips green and Hiro if NT isn't lying) despite how confident VE is in his read I was wrong about the Zealos vs Hiropro situation so I would like more opinions on them before I make my vote. Right now I side with believe NT and would like to vote Hiropro | ||
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On May 28 2012 03:05 Tunkeg wrote: If VE flip doctor we have to deal with it then. We are left with alot other than VE's read. The reason we should lynch VE is that it doesn't make sense from a town perspective, and he is very probable scum. A counterclaim won't do anything towards this, unless it is a scumcounterclaim, which we can lynch day 4, that won't happend. You say you believe NT, now what? We lynch Hiro? What if he flips town, then we are left with nothing else than NT's claim which still might be true. And we are worse off than if we lynched VE and he by some off chance actually flips doc. VE knew that he would be lynched by claiming like that, and if he was rational when doing so he is definately scum, and have an agenda for doing so. If hiro flips town we lynch NT. Scum have had literally no reason to frame Hiro (especially after the Zealos fake claim) and if he flips miller then we got fucked and thats it. The odds are EXTREMELY higher that one of hiro/NT are scum than VE/WBG | ||
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##vote visceraeyes but i think this is retarded, froggy you say you don't believe NT's claim and yet you want to lynch VE.. that MAKES NO SENSE... at least if you are wrong with NT you get scum in hiro | ||
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On May 29 2012 08:40 Tunkeg wrote: I am not. I am not going with any VE plan. I voted him because he did a unbelivable stupid claim. you seem so humble. do you think you are smarter than VE? or better yet, a better mafia player? | ||
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On May 29 2012 09:16 zelblade wrote: Wtf ve It doesn't even matter if bugs does flip scum that claim was horribad what about it exactly made it horribad? | ||
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On May 29 2012 09:33 Tunkeg wrote: Do you think it was a good claim? Why? That is what needs to be answered, The entire town voted for him. You are the only one who thinks his claim was any good aparantly. So stop with these nonsense questions. God damn scum! I am voting you tomorrow no matter what... I think that his claim was justified, cause if he had not claimed, we woulda all been like VE WHY YOU NO CLAIM YOU SOO STOOPID.. also, he justified all his actions, whether you like his justifications or not, he did justify them and attempt to reach out to all of you to tell you this, sorry you didn't listen, you do realize, that 1 wrong vote tomorrow means town loses. so if by some UNBELIEVABLE turn of events, you are actually town, that means the entire scum team can jump on your wrong vote and win the game. | ||
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On May 29 2012 09:53 wherebugsgo wrote: you opposed the zealos lynch for the longest time, and now you apparently think VE is infallible just because he flipped town. VE was lynched not because of his plan. That's fairly obvious. His notion that I am scum was moronic. He was lynched because he claimed doctor under no lynch pressure merely to ensure that I get lynched afterward. He had no DT check of me. He had no reason at all to call me scum. He was nothing more than dumb. If you are town how do you not see this? So now you realize that it was moronic to lynch VE instead of NT/Hiro... cool | ||
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On May 29 2012 09:57 Navillus wrote: I don't know whether I think we should continue with VE's plan atm but I do think we have to acknowledge the, at this point, real possibility that he just screwed up and made a mistake. We're gonna be at lylo tomorrow and if we follow through with what VE said we have to be sure that he knew what he was saying and was pointing everyone in the right direction. and why would he have been pushing us in the wrong direction? | ||
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On May 28 2012 02:01 Mattchew wrote: Ok guys, the way I see it we have 2 fights. VisceraEyes vs Wherebugsgo and Nova_tera vs HIropro We have the 2 claims of VE (Doc) and NT (Det). I firmly believe that ANY BLUE ROLE SHOULD COME FORWARD AND CLAIM NOW, ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE ONE OF THESE 2 ROLES. Also, I believe we should be voting on the NT vs Hiro case because we get a confirmed scum out of the claim (NT if Hiro flips green and Hiro if NT isn't lying) despite how confident VE is in his read I was wrong about the Zealos vs Hiropro situation so I would like more opinions on them before I make my vote. Right now I side with believe NT and would like to vote Hiropro On May 28 2012 02:44 Mattchew wrote: I vehemently disagree. If VE were to flip doctor, all we are left with is his READ on WBG and we are in LYLO, just as if we flip WBG and he flips town, we are left with VE being wrong and we are in LYLO. On May 28 2012 03:18 Mattchew wrote: If hiro flips town we lynch NT. Scum have had literally no reason to frame Hiro (especially after the Zealos fake claim) and if he flips miller then we got fucked and thats it. The odds are EXTREMELY higher that one of hiro/NT are scum than VE/WBG yup im spineless | ||
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Also, I believe we should be voting on the NT vs Hiro case because we get a confirmed scum out of the claim (NT if Hiro flips green and Hiro if NT isn't lying) despite how confident VE is in his read The odds are EXTREMELY higher that one of hiro/NT are scum than VE/WBG | ||
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On May 30 2012 05:34 Katina wrote: You're so sweet. I have nothing nice to say to you, so for the rest of the game while I ignore you, please know it is taking my full restraint | ||
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Originally, I did not believe WBG was scum, but after re-reading VE's cases, and his recent posts that are straight up horrible (such as telling me I didn't fight against the VE lynch and bringing up one game to try and discredit VE's skill) I believe he is scum. He is smarter than this and more rational as town. Look at the interactions between WBG and Tunkeg, they look like scum buddies if I have ever seen them. Tunkeg has also been equally ignorant this game. Finally I think Hiropro is possibly scum because I don't think that NT is scum and as town he has no real reason to lie about his claim/check of Hiro. I also think theres a chance that Katina flips scum, but these three strike me as stronger scum candidates tldr; We should lynch WBG then Tunk then Hiro and hopefully win EZ mode | ||
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On May 30 2012 08:14 HiroPro wrote: Are you fucking kidding me. Do you really think that I'm that stupid that I'd confirm someone with a red check on me when I am mafia???? Get your votes off me. Mafia obviously killed Nova to make me look scummy. If you lynch me now, we lose. And the wifom olympics begins... Do you think you were framed or you are miller | ||
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B. If you are town why didnt scum push for a nt or you lynch yesterday and get the ez win today C. Im inclined to believe you cause tunk is voting you... I also realize by not voting you I give scum the power to pretty much choose their lynch from anyone | ||
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Dt the odds are just stacked too far to reason against... The odds of scum calling out the one miller is just so low I can't possibly vote any other way. | ||
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On May 30 2012 13:42 wherebugsgo wrote: I don't think hiro is scum because I really doubt scum would overlook shooting a confirmed town just to shoot a DT. The only explanation for it is that they don't have a roleblocker and they wanted to lock the lynch on hiro. It's one of the oldest scum tactics; when you're in a situation where town will lynch a guy if someone else dies, scum kill the guy and then watch town tear itself apart with no real effort of any kind. I mean think about it, if hiro is town it's a perfect plan for scum. Yes, but where does the red check play into this? Do you think Zealos just lucked out into faking a DT check on a miller? or do you think scum framed Hiro? | ||
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On May 30 2012 13:54 wherebugsgo wrote: I think scum framed Hiro, yes. If scum framed hiro then it makes total sense that Zealos would call hiro scum (and claim DT at that.) Obviously the pussy way out is to simply kill hiro. I suppose we can do that if we're lazy and I certainly feel lazy. I just think it's too easy and that scum would probably not kill NT if that was the case. Maybe I'm just paranoid and this scumteam doesn't know what it's doing. Who knows. but that means scum framed hiro 2 nights in a row as NT dt checked him the night AFTER zealos's claim | ||
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On May 30 2012 14:52 Katina wrote: Navillus has been up and down this whole game. He sheeped along the VE lynch. Been hard for me to read. Same goes for Tunkeg, though his posting is always a roller coaster. But given recent events I find it likely one of them is mafia, along with Mattchew. Mattchew has been plain bad from the start. He came into the game with his quotes and completely ignoring confrontation with other players. He hasn't been giving any reads or making any cases. He cracked and started posting normally again and attacking his attackers. This is a blatant contradiction and the start of his posts that show he is trying to take credit for things he did not accomplish. He only pushed Mouldy Jeb when using the quotes. And we all know him using quotes accomplished nothing for the town. When he stopped using quotes, he immediately focused on the people who were suspicious of him (myself, Tunkeg, Marvellosity, etc). He also attacked VE. If you look at his filter, he doesn't justify any of those accusations. It's more along the lines of, "this person is stupid for voting me. Therefore they are mafia." Pretty sound logic there. He also defended Zealos and the end of day 1 and into day 2. He used the quotes day 1 so he could subtely push a lynch and not be accountable for it. Then he just started attacking anyone who was suspicious of him. Also, he was very adamant about killing zelblade, but hasn't said a word about him in over a day. I attack VE? I thought he was being stupid, not scummy. I attack marv? I thought his reasoning and logic was wrong, I was wrong. I never called him scum I don't believe. I attack you? I have called you stupid and useless, because its the truth. I have openly debated to myself if a townie (cause i have other scum reads than you) can be this bad I think I might have been wrong about zelblade, TBH the zealos lynch made me re-read everything. I have only attacked logic and argument. | ||
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On May 31 2012 03:16 Katina wrote: We really should lynch Mattchew though. The guy has been painfully scummy from the start. I have made multiple accusations and cases against but everyone has completely ignored his actions. Basically his overall defense is "I know you are but what am I?" "You're stupid" derp derp derp. We have wasted our time going after people that have been half as scummy as Mattchew while completely overlooking the big red bullseye drawn all over his face. I bet he could have a name tage saying "I'm Mattchew and I'm Mafia" and people would still overlook it. Could you post these imaginary cases? I would like to read them | ||
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Katina, if you are town, it would be a complete reflection on your play. Scum isn't shooting you because you are playing poorly and you are an easy mislynch. You are being mislynched in LYLO because you are failing to hunt scum and/or verify yourself as town. The complete lack of effort, and the arrogance in your play this game is what is leading to your lynch. I think you are scum because you have failed to come up with an actual case (and if you are town and you truly believe you have made cases then you need to reconsider this as well) despite telling people over and over that you have. You have failed to partake in any discussion longer than, "he's scum, he's not scum", you're reasoning for people being scum is lazy as hell (Examples: NT was scum because he said that he was town, I am scum cause I posted in flavor text, Me/Tunk/Nav are all scum for voting Hiro) All of these are terrible and completely illogical as scum tells. | ||
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I mean you can think you scum hunt and verify yourself as town all you want but the truth of the matter is that you are consistently mislynched by townies meaning you are not doing a good job of this despite your thoughts on the matter | ||
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On June 01 2012 06:37 Tunkeg wrote: Hey Katina, looks like you are getting offed. Looks like you were the most useless afterall... hey scum, if katina flips town this was not a scum win as much as a town loss | ||
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he is scum, he's just rubbing it in | ||
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This means there has to be ATLEAST 1 scum left on hiro at the end of the day This is where I would suggest our lynch to come from tomorrow | ||
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I was going to say this all along | ||
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On June 02 2012 09:37 Tunkeg wrote: You contributed heavily to making the town environment as shitty as it is. With your useless flavor posting, and crap attitude. Nope katina did that I just fell for her trap and kept responding... Remember how townies got a town read on me despite me only using flavor text? Marv was pissed but never said I was scum and mostly everyone willing to actually read the context of my posts was able to make out what I was saying | ||
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On June 03 2012 02:23 Tunkeg wrote: + Show Spoiler + This is a lie. I am town. I tried to do a hailmary attempt of not getting myself lynched. How would this hailmary work? Well, I was hoping the townies would post where I "slipped" forcing the scums to post their, after them having a WTF moment, after my false surrender. Only one who responded to it was froggynoddy, our confirmed town, who did so in a manner that just ruined my entire trap. If you lynch me, the game is over, scum have won. I am actually very ok with it, because I have been over this game for days. But it is not fair to you to go out without at least a little fight. I'll start off with a quick recap of the game: To me this game started off fine. I wanted to play this game in a different fashion then before, and would have if I didn't get pissed off, annoyed and resigned. This was discussed heavily early. Acrofalis came after me strong, in what to me seemed as a very townie way of playing. N_T also went after me, but in a fashion that I interprited as very scum like (I was wrong). HiroPro came after me with weak cases, and started his tunneling. ET defended me, in what I first saw as a very town way, but him not wanting to answer my questions and generally not giving strong lead made me think he was scum, for like 2 hours until he got lynched. Zealos play was very weird at first, and gave me heavy scumvibes, but I thought his play made more sense on day 2. This is pretty much how I saw day 1, the rest didn't make an impression on me day 1, except Mattchew and his flavor posting (which I have given my thoughts on numerous times). Day 2 to me was were I gave up the first time. I didn't like the way the game was going and the general townenvironment (this was not the kind of game I wanted to play). I did get a modwarning after request from Marv, and decided to keep on trying. I think this decision by the mod was bad, he should either have modkilled me or given me a warning in private without announcing it to thread. I didn't see any such warning for VE when he decided to suicide himself, I guess the rules aren't equal for the veterans and the common players... I didn't vote Zealos, I kept my vote on WBG in spite. Day2 also had the big VE vs WBG arguement and Mattchew comming to his senses and starting to post (even though I like him better when he just kept posting nonsense). Night 2 I got a secound wind and wanted to try to play and win this game again. I for one was ready to get down and dirty and start rereading and going over filters of my main suspects. Marv was killed, which was very predictable. Acid was Vig'ed as he should be. The day 3 hit with two weird claims which put me off big time. I could not believe VE would ever claim like he did if town, and I was very suspicious of the N_T claim (I guess he got carried away by getting a scumresult on his check). To me VE had to be scum or the game would not make sense at all. He got lynched and was in fact the doctor. This is where I resigned in full, and from the looks of it the rest of the town did as well. After this the activity have been incredibly low, the scumhunting have been without any cases, just votes and some silly one liner reason. To me the game was over, and I felt like playing it the way WBG, Mattchew and Katina did. By all ad hominem against the ones that had played this way against me. I didn't care if we won and not (and still don't really, but I will be fair to you who still does), I just wanted to stick it to the ones who had shit up the thread. Was it productive, was it pro-town, hell no, but that have been what I have argued earlier, it isn't pro-town to be a jackass! The votes against me The votes against me came instantly after the night. Onlyone on a different target is Navilus (who I actually suspect for it, as it would be a great scum move to do as the rest of you have linked us two together). It came without any cases, and any reasoning. And I can understand that if you guys are as fed up with this game as I am. But if you still want to win this game, go reread my filters and at least try to make a justified case on it. Also read Katinas and Zealos filters and see what they write about me, or don't write about me. So I am telling you one last time, I am town, but a fed-up one, don't mistake it for scum... You can blame me for losing if you want to, but in the end it is you guys who are doing the voting, and not putting in the effort to try to read me (and the two scums who will survive) properly . This reads of response to mod warning about playing against win-con | ||
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On June 03 2012 05:45 Tunkeg wrote: True but if Navilus switches first, we need that last town. funny how froggy asks is anyone around and is the one that isn't around | ||
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anyway after re-reading tunkeg's filter i think that he's scum. I think he has tried to feel out every and any mislynch by calling literally almost every person in the game scum at some point or another i mean just look at how he switches his stance on VE despite the only person in the first post flipping was scum. On May 25 2012 03:43 Tunkeg wrote: This can very well be the scumteam. NT, Mattchew and Zealos where my strongest day one scumreads. And I think you are perfectly right about WBG, I get a stronger and stronger feeling that he is scum. I also find it wierd that Mattchew suddenly start posting, now that you are fireing at WBG. Makes me think that the scumteam have decided that he needs to start posting and help out WBG. So even if these guys are giving you a hard time don't give up VE. They do it because they are scum. On May 27 2012 19:58 Tunkeg wrote: Hmm, another claim. This looks like VE scumplay 101 - turn the thread into turmoil. VE I think you know that you leave us no choice but to lynch you. But if you are in fact the doctor, and just did this out of afffect or rage, then I am willing to write it up as a mistake (kind of like my "ragequit" earlier), and won't hold any grudges. If you are in fact the doc I will expect you to contribute in a non abrisive and non disruptive way for this last 2 days. Post up your reads, don't get into any fights, and don't shit up the thread. If you do this as and you are a doc, your mistake is forgivable. If you are scum everything goes. I also wish we could have at least pretended that we might buy VE's claim, as I think his posts if scum would give us more information. More on the NT cop claim in my next post. ##Vote VisceraEyes | ||
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On June 03 2012 06:46 froggynoddy wrote: Why if you were town would you try to antagonize the one guy who was considering getting you off a lynch? thats non-telling of alignment lol Tunkeg why if you were scum would you try to antagonize the one guy who was considering getting you off a lynch? see | ||
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I lost the WIFOM war in my head on hiro TT. | ||
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On June 03 2012 09:46 HiroPro wrote: Your posts were awesome to read. Unfortunately silly people in this game had to end it Thank you <3 | ||
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: I'm almost tempted to policy vote you due to how scary good you played with me as scum in LIV. Policy lynches are bad though so your safe until you post more.
