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HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 02 2012 22:08 GMT
#1741
So from my viewpoint, town lost this game because people couldn't control their emotions. I thought we were in serious trouble at the end of night 1, but everything kind of went downhill for town from there.

Like whenever there was a serious argument going on that had nothing to do with mafia (VE/WBG, Tunkeg/Town), I lurked cause there was no incentive for me to spur discussion. All we had to do as mafia was pretty much just watch.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 02 2012 22:09 GMT
#1742
Town MVP: Marvellosity
Scum MVP: Navillus
Thing that made hosts WTF most MVP: VisceraEyes
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
June 02 2012 22:10 GMT
#1743
On June 03 2012 07:08 HiroPro wrote:
So from my viewpoint, town lost this game because people couldn't control their emotions. I thought we were in serious trouble at the end of night 1, but everything kind of went downhill for town from there.

Like whenever there was a serious argument going on that had nothing to do with mafia (VE/WBG, Tunkeg/Town), I lurked cause there was no incentive for me to spur discussion. All we had to do as mafia was pretty much just watch.


Congrats, you just discovered the problem of towns in TL Mafia
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HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 02 2012 22:11 GMT
#1744
I thought marv played really well and if we hadn't been able to shoot him night 2, I think it would have been very difficult for us to win.

Gonzaw: I think you may be over-reacting a little. You already saw VE play like this in LIII. Except for Mattchew (who thought VE was town), no one else who was alive was in that game or spectated that game (except for me, and I obviously wasn't going to say anything).
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
June 02 2012 22:12 GMT
#1745
WP by marv. Once WBG said it was very likely scum framed hiro I couldn't get that thought out of my head. I really would have switched last minute if froggy had lead the charge.

I lost the WIFOM war in my head on hiro TT.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
June 02 2012 22:15 GMT
#1746
Everyone says VE's claim was shitty. But why? Its not like he lied and I can't find anything scummy about his play. The way he pushed his reads (or read) was through reaching out to others stimulating conversation and forcing people to voice their opinions.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-02 22:18:57
June 02 2012 22:16 GMT
#1747
On June 03 2012 07:11 HiroPro wrote:
I thought marv played really well and if we hadn't been able to shoot him night 2, I think it would have been very difficult for us to win.

Gonzaw: I think you may be over-reacting a little. You already saw VE play like this in LIII. Except for Mattchew (who thought VE was town), no one else who was alive was in that game or spectated that game (except for me, and I obviously wasn't going to say anything).


I just can't fathom how town can lynch a claimed blue that can confirm his role at night, and has a huge history of making such type of claims and behaviour as town, over someone with a red DT check on him for instance (or just anybody else)

Like...I can't


Wait...VE claimed vig in this game right? Or did he claim that in another game? >_>


EDIT: Also yeah, VE played like this in LIII....more incentive for people to just say "He's playing exactly like he played in a game as town...let's just not risk lynching a blue alright?"

However, he played even worse in LIII since he "gave up" there and just disappeared, here at least he was active and trying to contribute even after he was set to die.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-02 22:21:27
June 02 2012 22:18 GMT
#1748
He claimed doc.
Also scum made a huge gamble with killing WBG instead of froggynoddy, it paid off but I don't think it was a good gamble since it gave town a focal point and didn't give scum any influence, as froggy would make the final decision. This was sort of motivated due to their lack of town presence, which is all to blame to their lurking. This was the lurkiest scum team I've ever seen and they would've and should've lost if it wasn't for all the poo flinging, tunneling and other shenanigans that occured. Nova even got a red check off.

Funfact: Nova forgot to check on the night he died. If Mafia didn't kill him he probably would've gotten lynched for not providing another check or he would've had to make up one.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-02 22:19:58
June 02 2012 22:19 GMT
#1749
Oh, lol!

EDIT: At least VE did make some saves as doc and claimed as such, unlike Sentinel in a game I don't want to remember >_>
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 02 2012 22:19 GMT
#1750
He claimed medic. I think part of the problem lies in VE's behavior before the claim. Like he kept WBG almost completely occupied and tunneled all the wrong people.
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
June 02 2012 22:20 GMT
#1751
Not only did he claim doc, but he claimed doc at the beginning of day 3, without any pressure on him, except marv who had told his suspiciouns. Follow that up by our DT claim and you have a town that is utterly confused. Which is what scum VE does...
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-02 22:24:21
June 02 2012 22:21 GMT
#1752
Also, good job on that "Bus DT check" thing though. Seems like a typical epicmafia play, but it's rarely used in forum games (it certainly fucked up with a lot of people's heads )


EDIT: Oh yeah, if you guys had kept VE alive, then scum would have basically been forced to shoot him, least they wanted to risk VE saving one of their targets.

Boom! Scum would have killed VE for you guys and you wouldn't even need to waste a lynch on him.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 02 2012 22:24 GMT
#1753
Yea, I thought it was going well at first. But I don't know; we made some really big mistake somewhere, because people started getting really suspicious. I know my behavior in the beginning of the bus was kind of weird, but I don't think that was what tipped off people, cause then they would have immediately realized.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-02 22:28:07
June 02 2012 22:25 GMT
#1754
Also, the reason why I sent Tunkeg a warning and I didn't send VE a warning was that Tunkeg appeared to just be giving up in a frustration way without pointing town to a next step afterwards, directly being anti-town. VE had a plan that he believed to be pro-town, so even though he wasn't acting pro-town he put down an explicit plan that he believed to be pro-town. It seemed to me that he just gave up, which is why I sent him a PM rather than instantly posting in the thread.

Basically, this game was Townies jumping in front of the noose shouting "Lynch me! Lynch me!" while scum were hiding in the back scratching their head.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 02 2012 22:29 GMT
#1755
On June 03 2012 07:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also, the reason why I sent Tunkeg a warning and I didn't send VE a warning was that Tunkeg appeared to just be giving up in a frustration way without pointing town to a next step afterwards, directly being anti-town. VE had a plan that he believed to be pro-town, so even though he wasn't acting pro-town he put down an explicit plan that he believed to be pro-town. It seemed to me that he just gave up, which is why I sent him a PM rather than instantly posting in the thread.

Basically, this game was basically Townies jumping in front of the noose shouting "Lynch me! Lynch me!" while scum were hiding in the back scratching their head.


Autoerotic asphyxiation, losing town games since 1983


Tunkeg, as soon as you pulled the "I'm resigning from TL if you are town" thing I immediately thought you were scum overreacting (like they always do)

...I didn't think you actually meant it >_>
froggynoddy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom452 Posts
June 02 2012 22:31 GMT
#1756
Ok so my thing about VE is that he lost a lot of credibility with his weird tunnelling if WBG, I just don't understand it and I don't see how it was done in a pro-town way. also how does him claiming a power role when it gives no benefit to town a good move in the slightest?

This being said I know I played badly, I should have switched fomtunkeg, I should have shot Katina and I shouldn't let myself be aggravated by people's unwillingness to swallow their pride.
'better still, a satisfied man'
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
June 02 2012 22:36 GMT
#1757
On June 03 2012 07:29 gonzaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 07:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also, the reason why I sent Tunkeg a warning and I didn't send VE a warning was that Tunkeg appeared to just be giving up in a frustration way without pointing town to a next step afterwards, directly being anti-town. VE had a plan that he believed to be pro-town, so even though he wasn't acting pro-town he put down an explicit plan that he believed to be pro-town. It seemed to me that he just gave up, which is why I sent him a PM rather than instantly posting in the thread.

Basically, this game was basically Townies jumping in front of the noose shouting "Lynch me! Lynch me!" while scum were hiding in the back scratching their head.


Autoerotic asphyxiation, losing town games since 1983


Tunkeg, as soon as you pulled the "I'm resigning from TL if you are town" thing I immediately thought you were scum overreacting (like they always do)

...I didn't think you actually meant it >_>


It is a lousy threath (shouldn't be used, as it goes beyond the game, and is infact abit unfair if a well respected player writes it), I shouldn't have written it. But I had decided to quit anyways, and had my thing against Mattchew at the time, so it happend.
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
June 02 2012 22:37 GMT
#1758
This game LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 02 2012 22:40 GMT
#1759
On June 03 2012 07:36 Tunkeg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 07:29 gonzaw wrote:
On June 03 2012 07:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also, the reason why I sent Tunkeg a warning and I didn't send VE a warning was that Tunkeg appeared to just be giving up in a frustration way without pointing town to a next step afterwards, directly being anti-town. VE had a plan that he believed to be pro-town, so even though he wasn't acting pro-town he put down an explicit plan that he believed to be pro-town. It seemed to me that he just gave up, which is why I sent him a PM rather than instantly posting in the thread.

Basically, this game was basically Townies jumping in front of the noose shouting "Lynch me! Lynch me!" while scum were hiding in the back scratching their head.


Autoerotic asphyxiation, losing town games since 1983


Tunkeg, as soon as you pulled the "I'm resigning from TL if you are town" thing I immediately thought you were scum overreacting (like they always do)

...I didn't think you actually meant it >_>


It is a lousy threath (shouldn't be used, as it goes beyond the game, and is infact abit unfair if a well respected player writes it), I shouldn't have written it. But I had decided to quit anyways, and had my thing against Mattchew at the time, so it happend.


You should have just said "If you are town I'll eat my hat".

Or maybe....you don't have any hats!!!?? :O
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 02 2012 22:43 GMT
#1760
Why the hell did you guys lynch Tunkeg and not Navillus?

Also screw you VE lol. I didn't do anything to agitate you and yet you did the exact same thing you did in Liar Game. I tried keeping my cool for about 40 pages before I just couldn't take anymore
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