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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
June 02 2012 18:18 GMT
#1701
Vote Count - 3 Hours 45 minutes to go
Tunkeg (4): froggynoddy, Mattchew, HiroPro, zelblade
HiroPro (2): Tunkeg, Navillus
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
June 02 2012 19:25 GMT
#1702
On June 03 2012 02:23 Tunkeg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2012 17:38 Tunkeg wrote:
Well done! You guys got me. As this is my first game as scum, care to tell me how you got me. What did I do to tip you guys off?


+ Show Spoiler +
This is a lie. I am town. I tried to do a hailmary attempt of not getting myself lynched. How would this hailmary work? Well, I was hoping the townies would post where I "slipped" forcing the scums to post their, after them having a WTF moment, after my false surrender. Only one who responded to it was froggynoddy, our confirmed town, who did so in a manner that just ruined my entire trap.

If you lynch me, the game is over, scum have won. I am actually very ok with it, because I have been over this game for days. But it is not fair to you to go out without at least a little fight.

I'll start off with a quick recap of the game:

To me this game started off fine. I wanted to play this game in a different fashion then before, and would have if I didn't get pissed off, annoyed and resigned. This was discussed heavily early. Acrofalis came after me strong, in what to me seemed as a very townie way of playing. N_T also went after me, but in a fashion that I interprited as very scum like (I was wrong). HiroPro came after me with weak cases, and started his tunneling. ET defended me, in what I first saw as a very town way, but him not wanting to answer my questions and generally not giving strong lead made me think he was scum, for like 2 hours until he got lynched. Zealos play was very weird at first, and gave me heavy scumvibes, but I thought his play made more sense on day 2. This is pretty much how I saw day 1, the rest didn't make an impression on me day 1, except Mattchew and his flavor posting (which I have given my thoughts on numerous times).

Day 2 to me was were I gave up the first time. I didn't like the way the game was going and the general townenvironment (this was not the kind of game I wanted to play). I did get a modwarning after request from Marv, and decided to keep on trying. I think this decision by the mod was bad, he should either have modkilled me or given me a warning in private without announcing it to thread. I didn't see any such warning for VE when he decided to suicide himself, I guess the rules aren't equal for the veterans and the common players... I didn't vote Zealos, I kept my vote on WBG in spite. Day2 also had the big VE vs WBG arguement and Mattchew comming to his senses and starting to post (even though I like him better when he just kept posting nonsense).

Night 2 I got a secound wind and wanted to try to play and win this game again. I for one was ready to get down and dirty and start rereading and going over filters of my main suspects. Marv was killed, which was very predictable. Acid was Vig'ed as he should be.

The day 3 hit with two weird claims which put me off big time. I could not believe VE would ever claim like he did if town, and I was very suspicious of the N_T claim (I guess he got carried away by getting a scumresult on his check). To me VE had to be scum or the game would not make sense at all. He got lynched and was in fact the doctor. This is where I resigned in full, and from the looks of it the rest of the town did as well. After this the activity have been incredibly low, the scumhunting have been without any cases, just votes and some silly one liner reason.

To me the game was over, and I felt like playing it the way WBG, Mattchew and Katina did. By all ad hominem against the ones that had played this way against me. I didn't care if we won and not (and still don't really, but I will be fair to you who still does), I just wanted to stick it to the ones who had shit up the thread. Was it productive, was it pro-town, hell no, but that have been what I have argued earlier, it isn't pro-town to be a jackass!

The votes against me
The votes against me came instantly after the night. Onlyone on a different target is Navilus (who I actually suspect for it, as it would be a great scum move to do as the rest of you have linked us two together). It came without any cases, and any reasoning. And I can understand that if you guys are as fed up with this game as I am. But if you still want to win this game, go reread my filters and at least try to make a justified case on it. Also read Katinas and Zealos filters and see what they write about me, or don't write about me.

So I am telling you one last time, I am town, but a fed-up one, don't mistake it for scum...

You can blame me for losing if you want to, but in the end it is you guys who are doing the voting, and not putting in the effort to try to read me (and the two scums who will survive) properly .


This reads of response to mod warning about playing against win-con
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
froggynoddy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom452 Posts
June 02 2012 19:50 GMT
#1703
On June 02 2012 07:16 Tunkeg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2012 06:57 HiroPro wrote:
Tunkeg is scum. The points I've made in my earlier cases still hold true. He says that he's going to vote for Mattchew at night because he's bm. He thinks that Katina is scum but doesn't vote for her.

Navillus is probably the other scum. His posting over the past couple of days has been very non-committal and nervous. And the way Katina glosses over Navillus speaks volumes. She said that he was scummy but then quickly tried to change the subject. That's the mark of a team mate trying to draw away attention.

On May 29 2012 04:19 Navillus wrote:
Soo I'm back and, I honestly just don't know... I guess at this point we just go through with VE's plan, I just got in and I've stayed caught up on my phone but I couldn't really analyze much, I'm gonna go back over the thread and see if I can make sense of what's been happening or if there's anything I've missed but... yeah I really don't know what to do at this point.

##Vote VisceraEyes



You know I am not scum, because you are scum yourself. But no need to feel good about your play this game, you guys didn't win this for scum, town did. You did nothing but tunnel me all game, got a condirme DT check on you and still the town in this game have played such an utterly shit game that they are getting lynched before you.

I think you and Navilus are the last scum. And I think Mattchew is the "third" scum, what a complete joke his game have been.

##Vote Hiro Pro


What do you mean by third scum?

Ok, for some reason I thought we had leeway for one mislynch, I was wrong. Are people around? What are people thinking about a switch onto navillus? I'm starting to think that tunkeg is slightly more likely to be frustrated town. That latest gambit was useless but seems consistent with his frustrated townie play.


Btw, hiro zelblade and navillus, at least one if you must be town. Your lack if content is killing this game just as much as tunkegs anti-town behaviour.
'better still, a satisfied man'
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
June 02 2012 19:58 GMT
#1704
I am here... idk about tunk i felt like his long ass post was because a mod warned him in private
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
June 02 2012 19:59 GMT
#1705
On June 03 2012 04:58 Mattchew wrote:
I am here... idk about tunk i felt like his long ass post was because a mod warned him in private


It wasn't the modwarning I referred to was on day 2. And it was in thread as well as private.
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
June 02 2012 20:01 GMT
#1706
On June 03 2012 04:59 Tunkeg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 04:58 Mattchew wrote:
I am here... idk about tunk i felt like his long ass post was because a mod warned him in private


It wasn't the modwarning I referred to was on day 2. And it was in thread as well as private.


EBWOP:

It wasn't. The modwarning I referred to was on day 2. And it was in thread as well as private.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
June 02 2012 20:08 GMT
#1707
yeah i know that one, im saying that your post feels like you got warned again, on a separate occasion, this time for playing against your win-con
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
June 02 2012 20:09 GMT
#1708
Tunk would you be down with a nav lynch, if me you and froggy all switched i think that would work
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
June 02 2012 20:17 GMT
#1709
On June 03 2012 05:08 Mattchew wrote:
yeah i know that one, im saying that your post feels like you got warned again, on a separate occasion, this time for playing against your win-con


That was what I was warned for the last time. This time I should have just gotten modkilled if he thought it was playing against my win condition.

Also as a scum doing what I did earlier wouldn't have been a clear playing against your wincondition case, as I had 4 votes on me and giving up could be a way of leading you guys a stray. As a town it would be much easier to argue that it is playing against my wincondition, had it not been for the fact that I, as explained, had a reason behind doing it. It didn't work out though, which was to be expected, but still, if you aren't even allowed to try to set up a trap (regardless of whether or not people think it is a good or bad trap) before it is called playing against your wincondition, then the rules are to harsh.

I didn't get a warning for this.
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
June 02 2012 20:18 GMT
#1710
On June 03 2012 05:09 Mattchew wrote:
Tunk would you be down with a nav lynch, if me you and froggy all switched i think that would work


Yeah, I would be fine with that. Partly because I think he is scum. Partly because I die if not. I would prefer Hiro though.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
June 02 2012 20:21 GMT
#1711
froggy i need you to make the first move i'll follow you
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
June 02 2012 20:21 GMT
#1712
On June 03 2012 05:18 Tunkeg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 05:09 Mattchew wrote:
Tunk would you be down with a nav lynch, if me you and froggy all switched i think that would work


Yeah, I would be fine with that. Partly because I think he is scum. Partly because I die if not. I would prefer Hiro though.


EBWOP:

Partly because he is my secound biggest scumread besides Hiro Pro.
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
June 02 2012 20:32 GMT
#1713
The fact that you two are even discussing the chance of swapping shows to me that you are confirmed town. Scum would just let this lynch be done with and win the game. This leaves 2 scum between me, Navilus, Hiro and zelblade. If we hit on Navilus, it is us three the lynch will be between. If we miss it is game over.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
June 02 2012 20:34 GMT
#1714
i need froggy to switch before i do
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
June 02 2012 20:37 GMT
#1715
On June 03 2012 05:34 Mattchew wrote:
i need froggy to switch before i do


Also the one between Hiro and Zel who is town should vote together with us, if the switch is to be done. Cause scum will pile their two votes on me now, if the switch happends. And if they act before we do, they got this. If Navilus is town it is game over anyways though.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
June 02 2012 20:40 GMT
#1716
if you me and froggy all switch to nav we will have 3 votes on him first, before anyone can pile onto you thus lynching nav first, we don't need any other town
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
June 02 2012 20:40 GMT
#1717
before nav can switch to you
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
June 02 2012 20:45 GMT
#1718
On June 03 2012 05:40 Mattchew wrote:
before nav can switch to you


True but if Navilus switches first, we need that last town.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
June 02 2012 20:53 GMT
#1719
On June 03 2012 05:45 Tunkeg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 05:40 Mattchew wrote:
before nav can switch to you


True but if Navilus switches first, we need that last town.

funny how froggy asks is anyone around and is the one that isn't around
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
June 02 2012 20:56 GMT
#1720
On June 03 2012 05:53 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 05:45 Tunkeg wrote:
On June 03 2012 05:40 Mattchew wrote:
before nav can switch to you


True but if Navilus switches first, we need that last town.

funny how froggy asks is anyone around and is the one that isn't around


He might have made up his mind. A last time switch is usually not a great idea.
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