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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
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sToFu
United States189 Posts
On May 29 2012 15:09 supersoft wrote: lol why am i so much better at this game than you, stofu A number of reasons, actually: you've probably played a lot more than me, and from your posting history, have probably read more carefully and more deeply than my current time constraints allow me to do, especially given how spam-happy the first few hours appeared to be. Furthermore, in RL mafia, I often disregard words in exchange for body language and tone, key factors that don't transmit well over the internet. I would actually appreciate any advice but everything you say to me in this game would be tainted by your initial hostility towards me. | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5239 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6784 Posts
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sToFu
United States189 Posts
On May 29 2012 15:06 MajuGarzett wrote: Why do you lean scum on Toad? He may not be town but it seems very unlikely he would be mafia after his claim of being mason which is easily proved and probably will be soon. Your intuition also seems to be giving you some weird reads. You say you find wiggles diplomacy discomforting but the diplomacy of Zealos and Forumite doesn't worry you at all. The nagging feeling about Grush makes no sense if you think he's trying to be a helpful townie. Even if there's no solid argument could you explain why you feel that way about him? I disagree with you on BH's early actions. As BH was running for mayor it makes complete sense for him to try to prove to everyone that he will post constructively and not spam. Though he may have gotten overly engrossed in it I hardly see it as signs of being suspicious. It's not even as if he was responding to accusations of being scummy, just accusations of being a poor poster. I agree with that. Rereading my post, I realize that I didn't properly convey my thoughts nor detail them correctly. I agree with you in that his actions make sense. I apparently didn't finish my description of him, but it essentially says that I understood that he became emotional and that I wasn't taking that much meaning out of it besides suspicion. The reason I felt it suspicious was two-fold: first of all, it felt as if he were overreacting greatly to fairly minor accusations, something in my (outside) experience more often than not attributed to members of the mafia. I feel as if he jumped on SnB to prove a point - that he is capable of rooting out scum - but in the process became engrossed As for Toad, his posting history is shady - no one can deny that - and, in my rush to finish the summary, failed to say that I believe toad is lyncher (as I did in my previous post). That said, I believe that he's fairly innocuous and that his role claim of mason allows us to give him the benefit of the doubt until his "special mason" powers allows us discover his actual alignment. Last thing: For me, intuition is only the method with which I choose to read more carefully into actions. If my intuition leads me to believe I have a new/different case, then I will be relying much more heavily on reason and actual post histories than on first impressions made from a single skim through the thread. | ||
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sToFu
United States189 Posts
But then I was too lazy to go back and change it so I let it be and now I sound like a 6th grader. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On May 29 2012 16:50 sToFu wrote: The reason I felt it suspicious was two-fold: first of all, it felt as if he were overreacting greatly to fairly minor accusations, something in my (outside) experience more often than not attributed to members of the mafia. I feel as if he jumped on SnB to prove a point - that he is capable of rooting out scum - but in the process became engrossed I don't know why everybody gets the order of events wrong but this isn't what happened: 1) I flipped out 2) I pushed SnB to "show that i'm town" after flipping out No, if you think this is what happened you weren't paying attention. This is what happened: 1) I pressured SnB, asking some fairly obvious questions 2) I flipped out 3) After I chillaxed, I continued with part 1 Also, if someone were calling you retarded and trolling, wouldn't you be mad? He didn't even call me scum-- he didn't pressure me at all. He wasn't even HELPING ANYONE, he was just calling me a retard. This wasn't a reaction to pressure, this was a reaction to a guy being an ass. | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
The guy went for a Plan-C lynch.That's the point here, he took the cowards way out. If he was bold he should have lynched Kita if not he should have gone for a nice Plan-B lynch that that was remotely worth information while giviing us an at least existing chance to hit mafia. What wiggles did is lynch into a guy that gave us an existing chance to hit mafia (alhough as pointet out the guy was a true null) while giving us 0 information. I'd rather have seen VE lynched than this guy. We can't make anything out of his lynch because it's 0 information and it basicly had the same chance of hitting mafia a policy lynch has. Not saying he is mafia yet, just saying this lynch was stupid and he looks weird because of it and mafia is not going to shoot someone who is looking weird. Even if they do, I don't care lol | ||
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Zealos
United Kingdom3571 Posts
On May 29 2012 19:06 supersoft wrote: does anyone disagree that zealos needs to be vigged? I explained that I didn't have the time to post yesterday, so vigging me will be killing a townie. Any reason you're so keen to do that? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On May 29 2012 19:43 Toadesstern wrote: Toades, I´m not sure if this is a dumb post or a very, very smart one. I can offer you a person disagreeing with Wiggles needing protection if that's okay as well. -snip- Not saying he is mafia yet, just saying this lynch was stupid and he looks weird because of it and mafia is not going to shoot someone who is looking weird. Even if they do, I don't care lol Medics, protect Wiggles if you feel like it. I don´t really blame Wiggles for lynching sinensis, Kita would have been a good candidate, but otherwise there wasn´t much alternative. A Zealos lynch might have been better but it never got much support, I guess it was too late in the day. There was very little discussion about other lynches, most people seemed fine with sinensis. | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On May 29 2012 20:05 Zealos wrote: I explained that I didn't have the time to post yesterday, so vigging me will be killing a townie. Any reason you're so keen to do that? Make up for it today. Show which team you are on. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On May 29 2012 20:05 Zealos wrote: I explained that I didn't have the time to post yesterday, so vigging me will be killing a townie. Any reason you're so keen to do that? Good point! It's actually literally impossible for a mafia player to do that, and by saying "I was busy for 48 hours" you're doing something that only a town player could do! That really DOES excuse your D1 play :D Furthermore, your VT claim TOTALLY makes sense, was 100% useful to town, and definitely won't help scum target the blues.  As a final note, when people make weird claims like that, post nothing for 48 hours, then make non-reasons to defend themselves not posting any reads or pressure D1, that's unbelievably helpful, and really is how all TL townies should play. You are not suspicious at all.  | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On May 29 2012 20:14 Forumite wrote: Toades, I´m not sure if this is a dumb post or a very, very smart one. Medics, protect Wiggles if you feel like it. I don´t really blame Wiggles for lynching sinensis, Kita would have been a good candidate, but otherwise there wasn´t much alternative. A Zealos lynch might have been better but it never got much support, I guess it was too late in the day. There was very little discussion about other lynches, most people seemed fine with sinensis. Well, it's only smart if we all act like it's dumb but we don't know it's dumb. | ||
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Zealos
United Kingdom3571 Posts
On May 29 2012 20:17 Blazinghand wrote: Good point! It's actually literally impossible for a mafia player to do that, and by saying "I was busy for 48 hours" you're doing something that only a town player could do! That really DOES excuse your D1 play :D Furthermore, your VT claim TOTALLY makes sense, was 100% useful to town, and definitely won't help scum target the blues. As a final note, when people make weird claims like that, post nothing for 48 hours, then make non-reasons to defend themselves not posting any reads or pressure D1, that's unbelievably helpful, and really is how all TL townies should play. You are not suspicious at all. Maybe I should just stick to making a load of sarcastic, augmentative, or just pointless posts to fill up my filter  | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On May 29 2012 20:32 Zealos wrote: Maybe I should just stick to making a load of sarcastic, augmentative, or just pointless posts to fill up my filter Honestly, as long as you start posting anything at all I'd be down. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On May 29 2012 20:14 Forumite wrote: Toades, I´m not sure if this is a dumb post or a very, very smart one. Medics, protect Wiggles if you feel like it. I don´t really blame Wiggles for lynching sinensis, Kita would have been a good candidate, but otherwise there wasn´t much alternative. A Zealos lynch might have been better but it never got much support, I guess it was too late in the day. There was very little discussion about other lynches, most people seemed fine with sinensis. a smart one of course. I onl maket smart posts when I'm town. | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On May 29 2012 20:35 Toadesstern wrote: a smart one of course. I onl maket smart posts when I'm town. If so I´d appreciate if you started posting with clarity instead. You are not confirmed Town yet, and probably won´t be for a few days more. Even if you will eventually prove your townieness beyond all doubt, that won´t matter much if you are not helping town, so stop with the WIFOM. You brag that you are good at this, show us tomorrow. | ||
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