TL Mafia LV - Page 41

On May 30 2012 00:34 austinmcc wrote:
Bah, should have organized it more, sorry.

I don't disagree with the read on Zealos, and I don't think it's an example of good town play. But that seems to be the general opinion.

I just don't get a good feeling from the way it feels like you tried to pump up your reads on Toad and Zealos, especially when a lot of your reasoning came from supersoft or didn't even feel that strong for you (He said, as he finishes presenting a read that apparently isn't all that strong...). Also, when we had so many inactive players, choosing to hold your reads until pressured to reveal anything doesn't quite sit right with me.

Do you currently have any reads outside the main targets of discussion that feel scummy to you?

On May 28 2012 18:34 Zealos wrote:
Right so, here are my thoughts:
SnB - He's seemed "Fishy" this game so far, and I would be happy to FoS him, however, I don't think there is enough there to say it is a good lynch. I'd like to see him post more thoughts though.


Thoughts on Mayor: If possible, would the best mayor be the one that chooses the day1 lynch based off of a vote from town? Seems like this would be the most pro-town play?

Pardoner: Whoever agree's not to use the power ever seems to be the best bet. Yes, in some select scenario's it might be good to use it, but that seems to just be giving an excuse to any mafia player that could convince people that make him pardoner to use the power.

Now some of my reads: Toad - Seems to be very town provided he can prove it using his "mason" powers. If not, we can lynch him tomorrow.
BE - Leaning on town. His arguments earlier were annoying, but nothing that led me to think he's scum.
Hyaah - ???? Lurker, could well be scum, want to hear what he has to say about the game so far.

If I were to kill someone now: Sinesis - Been said before, but he's tunnelling very hard and doesn't seem willing to add anything to conversation except kill Grush. Who are your other scumreads? Who are you voting for as mayor and why?

I'd also like to note - I'm pretty lurky Day1 atm, I'm pretty busy, however, I'll have finished my last exam come midway through day2, and will become a lot more active then.

On May 30 2012 01:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Why is Wiggles being put up for lynch again? I think I missed something X(

On May 30 2012 01:06 supersoft wrote:


no wait i filtered you. You're really bad. I first wanted to make a little joke, now i saw it's true. Any defense? Admitting you're scum could help it.

On May 29 2012 20:05 Zealos wrote:

I explained that I didn't have the time to post yesterday, so vigging me will be killing a townie. Any reason you're so keen to do that?

On May 29 2012 21:35 supersoft wrote:
please dont protect wiggles. i'd rather vig him than protect him. he's been completely useless so far as toad pointed out correctly.
you also should read my filter more often! all of you. dropped some truth already.

+ i want to apologize to wiggles first victim: i realized too late, that you were actually going to die. next time i'll yell much more at them. how retarded was that lynch... i think wiggles needs to die for not listening to the town at the end.
i dont buy it that he wasnt around at deadline since he was the one who got elected. i think if zealos is scum, wiggles looks really bad and should die. i doubt that he'll be able to erase the doubts then. 70% chance he's scum if zealos is.

On May 30 2012 01:39 jaj22 wrote:

Anything in particular or just my excessive tendency to defend people? I try to control that.

Honestly I'm struggling this game. I have town reads (some only mild, but still) on the few players with a significant post count so I'm concentrating on trying to get everyone else posting.

On May 30 2012 01:46 supersoft wrote:


The game is played like that:
You copy paste all playernames in an excel sheet.
You read the thread and make little notes on your excel sheet (votes/posts/good ideas/bad ideas).
Players you identify as town you color green, players that look bad you color red.
You compare your reads to the reads of other people.
sum up:
less blabla.

it is SO hard to read the novels you post in here!

On May 30 2012 01:49 supersoft wrote:


oh wait i didn't wanted to tell you that. I wanted to tell all of you. It was a general thing.
The thing i wanted to tell you is: I think your read on sinansisi was really bad.

On May 30 2012 01:15 Forumite wrote:

It SHOULD have been the general opinion that Zealos was the scummiest, but noone talked about him, and Sinensis got lynched instead if Zealos. Whatever your own read was, there wasn´t enough of other people agreeing with you and I to kill Zealos. I tried to change that at the end of the day but I didn´t try hard enough.

My reasoning didn´t come from supersoft, he got my eye on Toades, but we reached the same conclusion on Zealos on our own, unless my subconcious is acting up. I waited until someone else, in this case Supersoft, revealed his own suspicions on Zealos before I did too. I got suspicious of him first when he claimed VT, and then for real with his preemptive defence of Toades. I called him out defending Toades, but didn´t push it too far, I didn´t want to spook him ahead of time, in case he was going to post more incriminating posts.

I actually prefer NOT posting more when a part of town is inactive, because if I spam then there´s more to catch up on. Anyway the most suspicious people during D1 are Zealos and Kita. Manason acted weird too. BH looked bad earlier, although less so after the sinensis-flip. I´m not sure how my read on you, austinmcc, changed with the flip, BH was agreeing with Sinensis, at least intitially, but you were defending him.

So I´d say my strongest unorthodox scumtell would be Manason.

On May 30 2012 02:09 Manason wrote:


While I do agree with you about Zealos and Kita, I can't say I agree with you on myself. And the obvious question I'm going to ask you is why me?

On May 27 2012 23:52 Manason wrote:
I'm leaning more towards Mr. Wiggles at this point. He's the only one who has given complete sound reasoning on why he should be vice-leader. He promises to basically never use it. So if he does he's either just a bad townie, or scum. And he knows we'd lynch him. There is only one reason I can find not to trust him which is, Assuming he is scum he wants the position so a townie can't get it and so that closer to the endgame it can become the difference between a scum win and a townie win.

Also I don't know if this has already been brought up, but assuming the mayor is a good townie I think it's reasonable to believe that they'll be killed the first night, after all why would scum want a good townie in a position with double votes, it can only be bad for them. So we should start looking a little bit more closely at our mayor candidates, because if any of them have brains they've already figured it out they'll be dead the first night unless they're scum of course.

On May 30 2012 02:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
Supersoft why do you keep quoting yourself and talking to yourself? Are you talking to someone else?

On May 30 2012 02:24 Forumite wrote:
You are here, good, please stay. You´ve posted 3 times the last 2 days, so some more activity would be greatly appreciated.

What put you on my scumlist was one post full of odd earlier in the game.
The first paragraf is nothing new, of course Wiggles would, if scum, have to reaveal himself when he uses the pardon power, but so would any pardoner, it´s not like any of the candidates have said "Vote me for Vice-Mayor, and I´ll use the Pardon-power whenever I feel like it!".

The second paragraf is what made me suspicious. I´m not sure if you are telling scum to kill the mayor, or telling Town that they shouldn´t want to run for Mayor, or maybe you are saying that Town shouldn´t want to be Mayor because they´d die, which means those running are most likely scum. It´s a medium post, but it´s either a post about nothing, or very weird things indeed. I say you are a nervous scum trying to post something.