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papapanda
Profile Joined April 2010
Taiwan326 Posts
June 06 2012 06:21 GMT
#2524
On June 06 2012 08:07 marvellosity wrote:
papapanda, the wishy-washy scum:

It's harder to pick out posts for wishywashyness here, but posts like these:

Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 07:46 papapanda wrote:
Supersoft,
I feel like you have been contradicting yourself through the game. You changed your own priority for targets quite a bit. Vigging Wiggles, are you serious? He said he was lynching sinensis, if he had changed target last second, that would have been more alarming.

Sorry what is your position for toad once again? I don't feel like we forced him to claim anything. You seem to be one of the few that is OK with his play. What is the "obvious" reason for him to mason you?

Claiming vig is tough. As there is really no way to confirm you in terms of methods as toad is using, you can't call the shot beforehand.

As Toad already picked his buddy, I just want to say that I will be worried if you are the one who claims mason for him.


Lots of questions as with much of his filter in general. This is the kind of post that's a post for the sake of it.
For further reading, here is his filter from LIV where he was town. He's more open, more engaging, less afraid to post. There's an honesty and lack of deception in his filter in LIV that does not seem present here.


I thought I am being less wishy washy than last game...
I FoSed Hyaach and pointed out SS, but I didnt vote because I didn't feel strong enough about them.
The definition of FoS means you are suspicious, but not suspicious enough to put your vote on him yet, is it not?
Anyhow this is how I was/am using these terms; FoS->HoS->SCUM.

That said, I voted for who I thought was clearly scum: VE and gambit
I will agree with you in that I did not clearly provide my reasoning with my vote declaration post for VE, but I assure you I was not mindlessly sheeping regardless of how silly my reasoning sounds now. At the time, as with 13 other voters, it seemed to be the right thing to do, and I think I have put more effort into explaining my vote than half of them.

On June 06 2012 08:07 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 06:12 papapanda wrote:
Grush, if you starsense is telling you VE is not scum, don't vote for him...vote for who you believe to be scum; I would recommend wriggles(long as its not me)
Gambit didn't respond yet, if he ninjas today he is dead tomorrow.

The only reliable way I can think of to confirm VE is 1)tell him who to shoot 2)someone protect the target 3) target tells us whats up.
Before you post comments on why this is a stupid plan, I want to say that I agree it's a stupid plan and this is not going to happen tonight because so many things can go wrong.

#Vote:VE


This post is obviously the big one. It just screams scum. Don't vote for VE! Wiggles is more likely scum, vote for him! Except I will vote for VE! The reason he's voting for VE? The plan to confirm his vig shot is flawed. Well where the fuck does that say VE is scum? It just doesn't. As far as single condemning posts go, this one is pretty high up the list.


This quote was a response to grush's list of scum, and his vote for VE after that post. VE wasn't in his list of scum(which included the likes of Mr Wiggles and myself)->Grush didn't provide reasoning for VE->I call him out/Grush switch votes to kita.
I also explained it here:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 01 2012 06:19 papapanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 06:16 Mattchew wrote:
On June 01 2012 06:12 papapanda wrote:
Grush, if you starsense is telling you VE is not scum, don't vote for him...vote for who you believe to be scum; I would recommend wriggles(long as its not me)
Gambit didn't respond yet, if he ninjas today he is dead tomorrow.

The only reliable way I can think of to confirm VE is 1)tell him who to shoot 2)someone protect the target 3) target tells us whats up.
Before you post comments on why this is a stupid plan, I want to say that I agree it's a stupid plan and this is not going to happen tonight because so many things can go wrong.

#Vote:VE

You want him to vote wiggles, but you vote VE?



Not in particular, I want him to vote for someone who he thinks is scum from his list of read.
And he voted kita so nevermind i guess, just saying that voting for someone who you don't think is scum doesn't make much sense.


On June 06 2012 08:07 marvellosity wrote:
Conclusion: wishy washy
Terrible, terrible vote and subsequent explanation on VE (main point!)
less contributory than as town in LIV

Scum.


Regarding Zealous, he was targeted mainly for his useless post and lurking status, so I suggested Hyaach because at the time he was basically the same at zealous but had other posts that suggested scum.
With his recent posts, I am willing to have a further look into hyaach, and just off the top of my head he certainly is playing more town now, but I will take another look at him.


Regarding current vote:
Consider my vote on kita right now. I like the plan to switch to votes mana if no other medic claim.
papapanda
Profile Joined April 2010
Taiwan326 Posts
June 06 2012 13:19 GMT
#2541
As most people posted already, I will place my vote on manason.
I might be away again today.
papapanda
Profile Joined April 2010
Taiwan326 Posts
June 06 2012 19:35 GMT
#2588
Hi I will be back in 24 hours.
papapanda
Profile Joined April 2010
Taiwan326 Posts
June 08 2012 18:01 GMT
#2782
When is it a good idea to lynch Kenpachi?
I think we can find our mafia in Kenpachi, ET, MrWiggle, and Maju
Needless to say, he is the person I want to lynch the most.
From the vote results however, I have decided to put my vote on maju to secure the lynch today.
papapanda
Profile Joined April 2010
Taiwan326 Posts
June 10 2012 15:40 GMT
#2859
The scums(zealos, gambit, maju) have all been players who were not veterans of tlmafia. Instead of hyaach, I think lynching kenpachi or wiggle is the better option:
I consider wiggle to be suspicious mainly because of his change in play style from day1 to the rest of the game. In the election phase, he wanted to run specifically for vp. This change in behavior seem to be to avoid attention. Prob checked him, but if he is mafia, it is likely that he is framed by maju there for appearing town to the check.
Kenpachi is an option because he is not playing this game for town.




papapanda
Profile Joined April 2010
Taiwan326 Posts
June 12 2012 16:51 GMT
#2946
06-11-2012
02:49 PM ET (US)
On June 11 2012 21:22 austinmcc wrote:
papa, earlier you wanted to lynch hyaach, finding him more suspicious than zealos/cwave/phagga/G32. But you don't want to lynch him before kenpachi and/or wiggles? Why?

I posted my FoS on Hyaach quite early on in the game, and as the game has unfolded his posting changed quite a bit, making my accusations less significant. However, the main reason I changed my lynch target priorities to Wiggles and Kenpachi was because from the flips we have three non-veteran players for the mafia, so it is more likely that the rest of the mafia are selected from a higher experience level.
Putting Hyaach's or my name alongside with the mafia list is too imbalanced. So I removed hyaach from my lynch priority. As for my push for Kenpachi, it's fine if you do not think he is scummy, but please do not lynch me because I find him scummy. If anything, I would call this action to be chainsaw defense. Town, PLEASE, review the case for yourself, and not rely on "traps" to catch our scum.
I will vote for Kenpachi right now.
papapanda
Profile Joined April 2010
Taiwan326 Posts
June 13 2012 07:20 GMT
#2978
gg and gl!
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