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On May 12 2012 14:31 ~OpZ~ wrote:
As of things to note....Maju could be a townie thats a sheep....Just gonna say that as a counterpoint to quicksilvers posts against him. Can QuickSilver PLZ be RoL tho?
And Maju's my favorite target. I'm voting forumiite because I'm reading the discussion of him right now tho.
I dont understand what you mean by "favourite targert"...? Could you explain what you mean by that?
So you think maju is town? Why do you think forumite is scum?
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I can't even remember who i voted for
oh, yeah, bluelightz
i, like acrofales, am having trouble pegging scum this game...
i just dont really want forumite or maju at this point
both seem to be fairly intelligent, and beneficial to keep around if they're aligned with ze 'amburgahs
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On May 12 2012 09:02 MajuGarzett wrote:
As for lurking, I've just been busy the last 2 days. If I'm still lurking from now on, feel free to lynch me.
Propose an alternative!
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Okay. There's 12 hours left for the lynch, and 10 for the royal lynch.
So far I am still happy with the Maju lynch. He has come into the thread and basically repeated his earlier justification for his emperor votes and posting in D0. This is insufficient.
He is not the only one, however. I am becoming increasingly suspicious of Companion Cube. I know Cephiro as an active and engaged player, at least in his town play. He started off exactly that way in his early bid for empress. His blurbs of love were not much use, but there was some content in there, but the more I look at his early, and later play, the less I can convince myself that our lovable cube is a townie:
+ Show Spoiler [sincere, or casting suspicion around?] +On May 10 2012 16:06 Companion Cube wrote:CAROLUS, YOU SEEM VERY HOSTILE. WHY IS THAT?
THERE MAY BE PEOPLE WHO ARE SMURFING, BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN THEY DO NOT WANT TO PLAY.
I THINK YOU JUST NEED SOME LOVE. OR ARE YOU A CORRUPTED KNIGHT BEYOND REPAIR?
He promised his reads, but I for one am still waiting:
+ Show Spoiler [unfulfilled promise] +On May 10 2012 16:51 Companion Cube wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2012 16:29 Bluelightz wrote:
Companion cube seems very lovable, have my love (no marriage though :/). THANK YOU DEAR FRIEND. I WILL REMEMBER THIS KIND ACT OF YOURS. Show nested quote +On May 10 2012 16:43 zelblade wrote:And lol looks like another smurf got busted  INDEED, IT HAPPENED. THE FUNNY PART IS THAT I WAS WONDERING HOW IT SEEMS TO HAPPEN SO EASILY.
I WAS EXPECTING MYSELF TO DO A MISTAKE SOONER OR LATER AS WELL.
I GUESS I MANAGED TO BREAK THE RECORDS. RUNNING MULTIPLE GAMES IS HARD.
♥ I HOPE YOU ALL DON'T MIND ♥
I WILL WAIT UNTIL THIS FROZEN STATE OF TIME PROGRESSES FURTHER.
BEFORE I GIVE DETAILED OPINIONS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE THREATS TO ALL THAT IS DEAR TO US.
BE CAREFUL WHOM YOU VOTE TO LEAD OUR GLORIOUS EMPIRE, PLEASE.
The rest of his posts have been typical filler. Those blaming Forumite for blending in, I would suggest you take a look at Cube's filter... it is a bid for empress combined with the clearest example of blending in I can find in anybody's filter this game.
Additionally, while he was awol in this game, he was happily being active in Liar mini mafia, so he wasn't actually away from his keyboard, just this game.
On to my second target of the day. ATLAS. Once again, someone with a half-arsed attempt at getting a ruling position, combined with a decent amount of trolling. So far, no different from the half a dozen people who did this (Jitsu, QS7 and U spring to mind). However, where QS7 and prplhz have since improved their posting, ATLAS has managed to get worse.
Lets refocus on his D1 behaviour. This is what happens when the cases on Maju get made:
+ Show Spoiler [soft defense] +On May 12 2012 00:52 A.T.L.A.S. wrote:
Is there a reason people are pusing a Maju lynch over all of the other inactives? From my breif look over I do see a whole lot of nothing, but why him over all of the others in the thread?
Regardless of Maju's alignment, ATLAS is covered. If Maju flips scum, he can say "oh, I hadn't seen the cases and was being a responsible townie in making sure". If Maju flips town, he can say "I told you guys he was clean!" Typically insipid mafia post.
When Carolus points this out, his response is to avoid the question:
+ Show Spoiler [evasion!] +On May 12 2012 01:48 A.T.L.A.S. wrote:
I missed them, thats why I was asking for them. It was not a facitious "Where is the case?!" it was a literal "Where is the case?"
Anyway the other side of this question holds true, what do you think of bluelightz? Do you really subscribe to the thought that a townie would get frustrated sub 1 day into a game because no one is listening to his case?
He then disappeared, and when he came back and I refocused and asked him again. What did he do? Yes. Disappeared again.
Other than that, his filter is short and a waste of time. He avoids discussing the Maju bandwagon, but is happy to jump on the bluelightz one.
And finally we have Jitsu. Completing the trifecta of people who tried a bid for ruler and failed miserably. Jitsu I don't have much of a case against. I just find that he is underperforming in a stellar manner. His only post of any value is this:
+ Show Spoiler [Jitsu's only contribution] +On May 12 2012 04:49 Jitsu wrote:
This play from Bill Murray closely resembles what I remember of TLMafia L, where he ended up being mafia. He was fairly active in the game, if I recall, as well as being active in PM's.
That being said, the last (3?) games i've played, we ended up lynching a blue the first day, which is actually unacceptable. I don't care if you're view on the matter is to scum-hunt more effectively or trust in our blue roles, but I don't think I will be lynching into any claimed blue's for the time being.
I didn't catch up in the thread yet, and I don't know if i'm going to. I might just start playing from here now. I basically read up to the point where Arcofales tells a whole list of people to kiss his ass after he is elected, as well as Hassy, which I don't really understand anyway.
So all we know from Jitsu is that he may or may not be against a BillMurray lynch. Step it up buddy.
Finally, the following inactives deserve to get shot in the face:
Laika, BagManager, Vaderseven, The_Bard, Itouchyou, Sinani, Erandorr
However, I have good hope that some of them will just get modkilled for inactivity and we won't have to worry about them. Adam1467 escaped my list of extreme inactives by a very VERY slim margin.
Finally @Drazerk: what do you think of my darling wife Hassy. You seem to have some experience with Hassy and have maybe figured him out?
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A.T.L.A.S. is also suspicious for his comment here
On May 10 2012 08:41 A.T.L.A.S. wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2012 08:13 Drazerk wrote:On May 10 2012 08:11 Acrofales wrote:On May 10 2012 08:00 Mattchew wrote:On May 10 2012 07:43 Acrofales wrote:On May 10 2012 07:35 Mattchew wrote:
you should vote for me.. im consistent Hrmmm... explain yourself. I have played 2 games with you and read another few, and you seem rather inconsistent. In GoT mafia you were very active town. In DFM2 you lurked as town. And recently you came off a game (Wheel of Fortune I think) in which you were a rather convincing scum by being quite active. Consistent you are not. I, on the other hand, am consistent! I will be active regardless of whether I am scum or town! Activity is just something I do. If you think I'm scum that will give you plenty to analyze (see GoT mafia, or DFM2). Similarly, I will act very townie and be active when town (see Newbie VIII or SSM. The latter I was active in the thread despite the game being played largely in PMs). i meant my role hasnt changed like draz and you are trying way too hard for a caller game but your probs town cause of that This is my first "Caller" game. It being a bastard game, doesn't mean we should just roll over and die. In fact, the best way of dealing with it really seems to be to just ignore the whole bastard aspect of it and play as if it doesn't exist, until you have clear evidence of what is bastardly about the game. Seeing as we have a weird 24h pre-D1 limbo in which to do the mayoral vote, that means townie-hunt in overdrive to get emperor/empress votes right! They changed my role and gave me a posting restriction... And? What purpose does this statement have other than to serve to cause confusion in the town? why not keep it to yourself? I see almost no town benifits to bringing this up, but a great deal of scum benifts. Don't elect Drazerk
He never really elaborated what the "scum benefits" are, besides vaguely referring to confusion and claiming that drazerk wants people to "get off track". He also says he is familiar with WaW2, where Caller repeatedly changed drazerk's role and he, as town, also revealed that his role kept changing. How is revealing that you have a posting restriction possibly anti-town, if true?
Where is forumite?
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Quatol should be added to the list as well. His only contribution to the thread has been a single post where he pointed fingers at a few people, then declaring his lack of posting. I'd say that's actively lurking
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I hate you guys. I´ve finally caught up with the 24 pages of posts. A few responses incoming.
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Hassy is my wife and I can assure you he is town
Now stay away from my wife or I will be a jealous clown
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On May 12 2012 02:44 YES_THIS_IS_DOG wrote:
YOU GUYS ARE STUPID
FORUMITE RARELY MENTIONS HIS OWN OPINIONS AND TALKS A LOT ABOUT GAME MECHANICS.
I'M ONLY GOING OUT OF CHARACTER BECAUSE WE WASTED ABOUT A WHOLE PAGE ON IT
*arf* On May 12 2012 04:55 YES_THIS_IS_DOG wrote:
I already made a case, but I'll reiterate because it was lost in the morse code confusion.
If you read his filter, you'll see that he rarely talks about his own opinions. He likes to talk about game mechanics, which is VERY scummy. Scum are the ones who want to hide their opinions because they fear that it will incriminate them later in the game. In WoF us scum killed people suspicious of us to change the opinion of town. I´ve decided to not give out my reads without a reason in this game, so no list-posting. I´ve still said enough that you should know where I stand on most questions, but if there is someone in particular you wonder about then ask.
On May 12 2012 05:23 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2012 05:22 ~OpZ~ wrote:
New idea...I'm going to PM every player of the last TL mafia my role, that isn't already playing in this game....That way I technically wouldn't be breaking any rules regarding messaging someone playing my role, or talking about roles outside of the game. don't do this. thats stupid Matt said it.
On May 12 2012 02:04 Mr. PotatoHead wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2012 01:55 Acrofales wrote:On May 12 2012 01:45 Mr. PotatoHead wrote:On May 12 2012 01:41 Bluelightz wrote:On May 12 2012 01:40 Mr. PotatoHead wrote:On May 11 2012 20:34 Bluelightz wrote:
If you might be asking 'who is your suspicion BL?' well, I'm answering now.
First, I really want to kill each and every last smurf who has not revealed themselves yet, they are muddying our discussion (P-Body i am looking at you), and they are being useless and only trolling.
Second, Mattchew still seems suspicious to me as he is only randomly throwing out 'omg bluelightz is not playing to his latest town meta' or 'dont vote acro vote me' without explanation of really, ANYTHING.
Answer's to Acrofales's question:
Mr. Potatohead: This guy should die asap as he is like my previous points muddying the town atmosphere and has not revealed himself.
Hassybaby: Well, from my observation he spent almost 1 and a half of his filter trolling about cat faces, then dodged my reasons for why it is horrible to have him as empress, also please point out Hassy's throwing around of target's, I don't see it.It's a tarp! ##Vote Bluelightz Can this count as sheeping without valid reasoning or some bullshit? (1) I'm Duke von Wolfenstein of the Hamburger line, not scum. (2) However, I have looked like scum, so it is reasonable to accuse me of it. (3) But there are so many other people that look like scum, why would you stop at so few? (4) Because you are scum, and you know I am not scum. So it's in your best interest to get rid of me while I still look like scum, so you can vote me and not look scum. But you know I'm not scum. I will wifom your wifom if you wifom your wifom a bit for me, capiche? I am glad you have decided to lead the troops, Duke von Wolfenstein. However, I dislike your entire long post, AND this short post, because it manages to say nothing with a lot of words... and later nothing with few words! To assuage my suspicions, please tell me who you are, and who your votes went to for Emperor and Empress. If I have said nothing then you guys have also said nothing. Lol. From what I can tell, this is exactly what you should be saying if you are a scum emperor. You should discredit my logic, because my logic paints you scum if you accuse me. Why? (1) I'm Duke von Wolfenstein of the Hamburger line, not scum. (2) However, I have looked like scum, so it is reasonable to accuse me of it. (3) But there are so many other people that look like scum, why would you stop at [me]? (4) Because you are scum, and you know I am not scum. So it's in your best interest to get rid of me while I still look like scum, so you can vote me and not look scum. Go on, kill me. I dare you. Then people will look back and we'll see if I was really saying nothing. Potatohead, your logic is flawed. You acted scummy and got called out for it, that doesn´t mean shit. You could just as well have been called out by a townie who wanted you to shape up. Stop actively trying to act scum or you will convince us to lynch you.
On May 12 2012 02:40 Mr. PotatoHead wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2012 02:37 YES_THIS_IS_DOG wrote:On May 12 2012 02:35 Mr. PotatoHead wrote:Note the timeline, On May 10 2012 22:40 Forumite wrote:
I voted thus:
Acrofales for Emperor
Hassybaby for Empress On May 11 2012 02:33 Forumite wrote:
##Vote Emperor: Acrofales
##Vote Empress: Hassybaby On May 11 2012 07:44 Caller wrote:Day 1 The pope arrives... It is a grand ceremony, with nobles of every rank strutting about like a bunch of cardinals before the slaughter. I mean chickens. Suddenly, he arrives, Acrofales, the Kaiser elected by the Lords of the Holy Roman Empire. His Empress, the Kaiserin Hassybaby, walking slowly by his side. ... Arf? He accurately called both emperor and empress. Twice for good measure. Because of this it is extra likely that he is scum and that these are the two people scum were aiming for. Would be pretty stupid to leave a trail like this though. I like it how you refute your own argument against me in the last reply.
If you think there´s something weird about the election then give me the full list of votes and show me a discrepancy. If you don´t have anything suggesting Carolus should have won, then this only looks like you are angry that town voted like I did and not how you wanted them to, and try to take it out on me.
On May 12 2012 03:36 Mr. PotatoHead wrote:
Why would you be confused? Do you think Hassy is not town?
Haven't a bunch of people been saying you need to stop asking ppl to talk and start talking yourself.
Have you even directly denied being scum, and directly claimed being town yet? Link plz.
He doesn´t have to deny he´s scum, because everyone would answer the same to that question. Demanding it of him is pointless. Shape up!
On May 12 2012 04:20 P-body wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2012 04:19 strongandbig wrote:On May 12 2012 04:15 Bill Murray wrote:
I could easily have just checked you,
if you wouldnt have spazzed and posted the entire thread
at that point im dangerous
why would you out a PR claim to the town?
I was reaction testing you, and you blew it. Sigh. Dude. You posted a small, out-of-context chunk of a chat log - what did you expect? If he's town he's gonna post the rest to defend himself, and if he's scum then you've just given him perfect cover for outing you publicly. Actually wait, how is it scummy for him to out your blue claim publicly? Why not just kill you? If he was scum then scum obviously already knew about your claim, herp derp. 4920646f6e2774206576656e2062656c696576652068697320636c61696d2e I don't even believe his claim. On May 12 2012 04:24 P-body wrote:4c6f6c2e2020424d20747269656420746f2074726170206d6520616e64206f6e6c7920747261707065642068696d73656c662e0d0a0d0a2323566f74652042696c6c4d75727261792c206d61796265207468656e20492063616e20676574206120646563656e7420776966652e Lol. BM tried to trap me and only trapped himself. ##Vote BillMurray, maybe then I can get a decent wife.
P-body, you fucked up. Scum wouldn´t out a blue claim, they´d just shoot, but town wouldn´t do it either, because it´s a bad move. I don´t care if you say you don´t believe him, you still painted a big target on BM for no reason, a target scum will aim for.
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Forumite, nobody is asking for a list. But so far you have not mentioned people who you think are suspicious AT ALL.
Care to give your opinion on the current list of suspects:
Maju
Bluelightz
ATLAS
CompanionCube
Quatol
Who do YOU want to lynch today?
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EBWOP: you have your vote on BagManager. Any particular reason he is scummy and not just an inactive douche?
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On May 12 2012 21:26 Acrofales wrote:
EBWOP: you have your vote on BagManager. Any particular reason he is scummy and not just an inactive douche?
Who are you going to use your super lynch on my lord?
You have to choose eventually and knowing their death is incoming may make them step up rather than play bored.
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On May 12 2012 21:29 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2012 21:26 Acrofales wrote:
EBWOP: you have your vote on BagManager. Any particular reason he is scummy and not just an inactive douche? Who are you going to use your super lynch on my lord? You have to choose eventually and knowing their death is incoming may make them step up rather than play bored.
I believe I have narrowed it down enough for now. ATLAS and Companion Cube are on the chopping block as far as I'm concerned. I slightly prefer ATLAS atm. My empress prefers Companion Cube, but has said that as it is atm, there will be no pardons for anybody on the list I posted.
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EBWOP: prefer for the lynch, to make it completely clear.
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It's pretty unlikely my vote will be moving after that lackluster defense and no attempt at actually scum hunting. This comment also appears pretty damning
On May 12 2012 08:59 MajuGarzett wrote:
Some may claim that I voted for Acro and Hassy as they as well as myself are scum, but, looking at the spreadsheet of votes, obviously a lot of people agree with me on them being town
This may be a "slip" as bluelightz says, but even if it isn't, it's a pretty bizarre way to defend yourself if you are town. A lot of people voting to elect someone does not make the person in question town, as you do not know the alignment of the people in question and someone who gets elected always has a lot of votes. Besides that, it doesn't seem like something a townie would even consider to use as defense, almost feels like you know acro and/or hassy are town and want to use that to clear yourself.
You also never even explained why you think acro and hassy are town.
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@blielightz:
I get your case on Forumite for not posting real opinions, and I think his "sum will kill me otherwise" is stupid. However:
On May 10 2012 18:45 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2012 18:30 Acrofales wrote:Also, you're wrong. Here is from the OP:
Of course, there is an order to inheritance. All players will PM me the name of two players, one for Emperor and one for Empress. The person with the most votes becomes Emperor, and his heir is the player behind him in line. Similarly, the player for Empress will become Empress and the following player will be the Empress's heir.
The number of votes decides the line of succession. All anybody has to do is decide who he/she wants as Emperor and who as Empress. Send those two names to Caller. HINT: I should be emperor. You are missing the point, the heirs are almost as important as the first pick, but much easier to get elected for scum. If we don´t make sure there´s a good candidate for each heir position, and that they get enough votes, then I can guarantee that both heirs will be scum, or whoever scum want in that position.
This seems like a very pro-town bit of setup speculation, since at that point we all thought the election worked like that (or at least I did.)
That said, Forumite what led you to say there are multiple scum teams? I dot think town has any information suggesting that.
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I find it weird that people don't talk about me at all when mentioning lurkers. Am I a mole or what lol
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On May 12 2012 21:59 Kurumi wrote:
I find it weird that people don't talk about me at all when mentioning lurkers. Am I a mole or what lol
I seem to of created an aura for you
no one wants to talk about you now so go kill scum pew pew
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On May 12 2012 21:59 Kurumi wrote:
I find it weird that people don't talk about me at all when mentioning lurkers. Am I a mole or what lol
You're Kurumi. You're not lurking, you're playing the game Kurumi style as far as I can see. It is pointless to lynch you or even discuss you at the moment as there is nothing to discuss. It will also not get you to post more. I tried engaging you in SSM and it failed. I have a new policy to deal with you, which is to simply not deal with you until later in the game.
@Drazerk: I posted my top 2 scum (well, top 3, considering I support Maju for a town lynch). What do you think of them?
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