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On May 05 2012 06:42 grush57 wrote: Yes but he said he has no [i][solid/i] scum reads. He was just the most scummiest person.
As town do you not have an obligation to vote for who you think is the scummiest person
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On May 05 2012 06:47 blubbdavid wrote: If it takes 14 to lynch, then I will change my vote. Is it not pluarity?
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I think 5 people didn't vote, with one having an excuse that he PM'd to mod.
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Are you sure the post wasn't edited? Or they voted earlier in voting thread?
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Happy Birthday Nova_Terra
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That is lucky, we lost 0 power roles, and got 2 scums.
Wtf, Katina was active and never voted.
Not even happy though, the integrity of the game has been compromised.
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I just realised Eiii called me Mentos. >_> <_<
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On May 06 2012 00:24 blubbdavid wrote:Now that I have looked through some filters, I retract my suspicions on NT and want to point out Mementoss: First of all, I have played some games with Mementoss, and the uncaring behaviour of his Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 08:44 Mementoss wrote: Sup?
Im not dealing with this shit this game.
##Vote: Kenpachi ##Vote: BillMurrary
Either will do does absolutely not match with his townplay. As townie, he is one of the leaders who gets quickly killed off by scum. That what he is pulling of is definitely not townlike. Many of his posts are useless one-liners, and those which are not have almost no content and are wishywashy. A big analysis is not necessary, you can see his lack of real contributions for yourself.layabout and mementoss are now my biggest scum suspects.
Would you like to explain why you retract your suspicions on NT? Is it just because of your new-found suspicions on me? He hasn't done anything spectactularly townie at this point. This was my first post of the game, and since you weren't in LIII I guess you don't understand my frustration with this. The point is, it was more of a joke than a serious statement, which can be seen if you read my filter. Actually the fact that a chance came up for a policy lynch on BM that I didn't jump on should show that. Also the fact how I stated it was ridiculous that a policy lynch was created by someone who shoudln't be trusted (layabout) and that many people jumped on without reason.
I pushed my reads on day 1, Grush and NT, and I tried to pressure people to post their respective reads rather than just sit around. The fact that you can't even put together more of a half ass case on me makes me wonder if your just posting this case, to make it look like you're doing something. The italicized part isn't true, and the fact that you can't back it up with facts proves my point of you half assing a case.
Also, great layabout is one of your biggest scum suspects. Why was that? Oh wait, your just saying it because its a popular opinion at the moment. The fact that you are saying plenty of things, without any explanation (NT not suspicious, half case on me, layabout biggest scum read) makes you very non-transparent and makes you look like you are posting for the sake of posting.
I will be re-going over the thread/specific players and posting my reads before nights end.
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Fuck, I thought the deadline was later. Haven't really had time to conjest my reads.
Also 3rd KP could be mafia vig. At least we haven't lost any power roles yet.
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On May 06 2012 06:49 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2012 06:46 Mementoss wrote: Also 3rd KP could be mafia vig. At least we haven't lost any power roles yet. There are no mafia Vigis-- and a pyro wouldn't be able to kill someone until N2.
Ah its day vig
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Alright on to the people I think are scum at the moment.
Nova Terra: For the reasons stated before, his recent play gives me no reason to change my mind.
Layabout : I know some others have brought up these points but.. For this contradiction:
On May 03 2012 08:04 layabout wrote: I just want to warn all of the "area 53" guys that policy lynching is no better an option in this game than it ever was before. I know that a few of you are currently feeling like we should place all lurkers and confusing posters into the fire. But the majority of those players will be town and lynching into them is likely to kill (admittedly useless) townies. .
On May 05 2012 02:18 layabout wrote:
since we still have no real candidate ##vote Bill Murray reasons: anti-town when town anti-town when scum lurks a lot when he is active he is disruptive
This is a policy lynch.
Not only this, but he started the BM wagon single handidly and people followed.
His Hard defense on Katina
On May 05 2012 05:10 layabout wrote: Katina has made posts indicative of intelligence.
I do not think we should lynch katina.
Also he wanted to kill Palmar tommorrow, despite palmar just lurking, why not any other lurker? He wouldn't have known BH would shoot Palmar so it wouldn't make him look bad.
On May 06 2012 00:55 layabout wrote: we should kill Palmar tomorrow
Marvellosity
On May 05 2012 05:53 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 05:49 layabout wrote: Look how few votes the candidate have
Look how weak the cases are
Look how easily the 5 player scumteam could swing the vote
See how unlikely we are to hit mafia
Lynch a player that will be anti town either way. Vote BillMurray Sold, I don't have a solid scumread on anyone and BM is just useless and anti-town no matter his alignment.
Having no solid scum reads, despite saying Katina and Nova looked scummy to him. It seems like he purposely put these next two statements in the vagest terms possible, so that when he hopped on a bandwagon he could say, well I didn't really think they were that scummy. Also, the games where he has been town he has been very pro town in scum hunting and posting, in this one however, he has been a "commentator" on everything and an initiator of no scum hunting.
On May 05 2012 02:43 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 02:02 Mementoss wrote:On May 05 2012 01:47 marvellosity wrote:On May 05 2012 01:45 SomethingAwesome wrote:On May 05 2012 00:20 froggynoddy wrote:On May 04 2012 23:45 SomethingAwesome wrote:
Don't talk about Beneather. No reason to. When/If he post he will be a target for now leave him be.
why? Inactives and lurkers are killing this day 1, its allowign scum to hide amongst them. I'd almost be up for changing my vote onto him if it gets him to contribute. I aso agree with Mementoss, Grush's case is weak but its the only case we have. He havent posted yet. He isn't lurking he is just not here. If he pops up I'll bring my entire wrath down on him but until he does he is a modkill to me so I see no reason to waste time arguing over him. So you think we should kill Grush because its the only case? You don't really care who we lynch? Who would you favour lynching at the moment, sir? I would like to hear the same from you actually Marveoulosity I'm not sure you deserve an answer if you're not going to spell my name right. At the moment Nova looks the scummiest for reasons already expanded upon by others. The fact that so little of anything has occurred today makes Nova's stance that he doesn't want to air his tentative reads all the worse.
On May 05 2012 05:04 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 05:00 DoYouHas wrote: Grush's initial missteps and then claiming scum twice (even if it is sarcastic) makes him a decent lynch.
You all seem to be avoiding having an opinion on the main part of my post. Your analysis on Katina's 'lie' seems to be sound enough, the problem I have with it is that Katina generally has quite an odd posting style, so I'm not sure how much I should make of it, especially as the post in question was aimed at renowned finger-pointer BlazingHand.
I'll bold all the wishy washy vague terms for you. So basically, its a soft defense on Katina while still maintaing the post to look like he thought Katina was scum. The rest of his filter is nothing useful, just one liners. The fact he was so reluctant early in the day to place a vote on anyone he found remotely scummy even to pressure them seems odd, then how quickly he is sold on the fact a BM bandwagon comes along.
I would be happy with lynching any of these three today. Will keep looking into more as well.
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On May 06 2012 07:25 marvellosity wrote: Mementoss: cba to do a particularly long defence, but a) you've seen what I'm like before I get going in a game b) I didn't say Katina looked like scum, I said DYH's reasoning was sound but gave the reasons for my misgivings, c) I stated that Nova's scumminess lay in the fact he hadn't pushed his 'tentative' scumreads, + already explained how this did not put him into the scum category for me.
But carry on dear... you never really got over BH's tunnelling of me last game, did you?
P.S. Question for you and all of you
1) do you think layabout is a fairly intelligent reasoned player? if yes, proceed to 2 2) do you think layabout scum would make the mistake of not advocating policy lynch and then making one on BM?
Personally my answer is no, which is why I am not comfortable on his case
Let me ask you a question back.
1) Do you think Marvellosity is good pro town player? if yes, proceed to 2 2) Why did Marvellosity avoid pressuring players or committing to anything all of day 1?
Now go up and replace Marvellosity with Nova_Terra or Layabout. Added on to this, there is scummy contradictions within these cases that help add up to make me think any of the three of you could be scum. Added to the fact that Katina flipped scum, and the interactions you and Layabout had with him.
Also you are giving scum players too much credit. Did you think a scum player would last minute vote switch causing a tie and lynching the opposite person, when both players are townie?
These things happen to scum by mistake, or are just plain moves to fuck with you.
This being said, who is your biggest scum read and why?
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EBWOP: This is the second time, I've had to ask/force somewhat of a scum read out of you Marvellosity. You'd think you'd want to contribute to the discussion, and actually provide them without being provoked?
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On May 07 2012 02:31 PaqMan wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2012 06:18 Sinensis wrote:On May 06 2012 05:44 PaqMan wrote:I don't like BlackRaven's posting. He has only two posts that are of any sort of significance. + Show Spoiler [BR's two significant posts] +On May 04 2012 03:51 BlackRaven wrote:Cool, lets's go Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 02:47 DoYouHas wrote: Palmar's confrontational and empty 1 liners make it impossible to get a read on him. (anti-town) He is shutting down conversation instead of fostering it. (anti-town) I have no interest in keeping someone around who I won't be able to get a handle on and who I think is hurting the town.
##Vote: Palmar Firstly, confrontational and empty is an oxymoron in Mafia. Confrontation brings discussion. Discussion good. Discussion not make posts empty. Secondly, not having a read on someone does not make him anti-town. It makes him just another player in the game. It sure as hell isn't a reason to vote him. Thirdly.....well see the first point about your second one. He got you talking didn't he? :3 All this post achieves is soft-defending Palmar and nothing moreOn May 04 2012 03:53 BlackRaven wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 03:47 DoYouHas wrote:On May 04 2012 03:42 BlackRaven wrote:On May 04 2012 03:30 DoYouHas wrote: Oh, and btw. You are defending Palmar by attacking the person going after him. You discredit me and Palmar no longer has a need to respond. This is wrong - D How is fitting the definition of a chainsaw defense wrong? If a player ever uses a chainsaw defence as an actual defence they are scum there is no leeway about it and its bad play all around. People should never use other peoples arguments to make them appear either townie or scum its just bad play and they deserve to be lynched if they do so. Me and Hassy both still expect things from Palmar at some stage we just both dislike you at the moment. -D This entire post is just an altercation with DYH and contributes nothing of value except for the fact that BR doesn't like DYH. BR's entire filter literally contains nothing more than pointless one-liners. The only thing he's done is ask other people questions and make comments to the side that add no value to discussion. He doesn't make any scumreads nor does he form serious opinions on people. And his D1 vote: On May 05 2012 03:22 BlackRaven wrote: You know I liked layabout at the start but now he is probably going to cause more harm than if I was a medic...
##Vote: layabout
-D
goes without any sort of good explanation besides "I like him, now I don't." I see him as a possible lynch candidate if he doesn't pick it up and he's earned my FoS I don't like basing decisions on meta, but I can say having played with BlackRaven in the past... lots of confrontational 1 liners is par for the course for his town play. I am null on him at the moment and I believe there are better targets at the moment. Sinensis I'd like to see your reads.
Paqman I'd like to see your recent reads, now that both SlooSh and BlackRaven have flipped town, do you have any other reads that you would like to share? I doubt you would be actively against these two and then kill them as scum, but that is WIFOM. I know your against a layabout lynch, what are your thoughts on NT and Marv?
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On May 07 2012 03:43 Blazinghand wrote: JW hasn't posted in 24 hours. KP hasn't posted in 24 hours. Eiiii hasn't posted in 24 hours. PPanda hasn't posted in over 36 hours. Froggy hasn't posted in over 48 hours. NT hasn't posted in nearly 24 hours.
I mention this because it's literally impossible all 6 of you are scum. AT LEAST 3 of you are town players who are actively hurting town. OW
OW
OW OW
stop hurting town
stop it
stop
omg why aren't you posting Only one who gave excuse was froggy for stag weekend. He should be arriving back in thread soon though.
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On May 07 2012 04:37 Nova_Terra wrote: Next, Kenpachi Absolutely worthless, if you consider his connection case useful i dunno what to say Vote: Kenpachi
Considering your doing about as much as him why not vote you?...
This seems familiar to another lynch that just happened, hmmmm BM townie lynch?
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EBWOP:
Feeling slightly better about layabout for now....
So
##Vote: Nova_Terra
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On May 07 2012 05:11 Nova_Terra wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2012 04:59 Mementoss wrote:On May 07 2012 04:37 Nova_Terra wrote: Next, Kenpachi Absolutely worthless, if you consider his connection case useful i dunno what to say Vote: Kenpachi Considering your doing about as much as him why not vote you?... This seems familiar to another lynch that just happened, hmmmm BM townie lynch? because i am town
And you're purposely playing anti-town? :S
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On May 07 2012 05:19 Nova_Terra wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2012 05:12 Mementoss wrote:On May 07 2012 05:11 Nova_Terra wrote:On May 07 2012 04:59 Mementoss wrote:On May 07 2012 04:37 Nova_Terra wrote: Next, Kenpachi Absolutely worthless, if you consider his connection case useful i dunno what to say Vote: Kenpachi Considering your doing about as much as him why not vote you?... This seems familiar to another lynch that just happened, hmmmm BM townie lynch? because i am town And you're purposely playing anti-town? :S No, Im trying to at least stay alive and make sense in my lynch targets until i have the time for something majorly useful
Give your opinion on layabout, Blubb and marv then, since you can't come up with cases on your own, other than the last minute day 1 case on me.
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On May 07 2012 05:46 Nova_Terra wrote: Marv seems good at posting early 1 liners and then aggressively onto easy and profitable bandwagons. he is one of my top scumreads that i had earlier
So despite Marv being a top scum read of your's, you would rather random vote kenpachi?
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