EPTTL Mafia 'Area' LIII - Page 36
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MidnightGladius
China1214 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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marvellosity
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
On April 23 2012 07:32 Risen wrote: EBWOP: I can't do this. I'm done. Get off VE. Get onto whoever you want. I don't know why wbg can direct people so well posting so little and I'm screaming in the thread and no one does anything. It's because nobody trusts you or your judgement, partly because of what you are saying and partly because of the way you are saying it. You call people stupid and make very little effort to try to understand their point of view, and you act stubbornly and unhelpfully. I think we should kill VE. BM is an acceptable lynch. I think risen is just being himself and is probably town. | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On April 23 2012 00:17 Zephirdd wrote: God damnit layabout. I was about to post how VE's claim made sense and how he was town, but then you convince me the opposite. Geez. And this martyring post from VE only makes sense from two PoVs: - He really is a JK and he will let town use his flip information to deal with what happened during the day - He is scum trying to sound like that. Also, right now, I see no reason to lynch Bill Murray - he should be vigged, not lynched if he doesn't contribute soon. VE, what is your stance on gonzaw, especially after his series of (Seemingly) drunk posts? Also, please make the case against the certain scum you are talking about. Should you flip JK, we got something solid to work from. In fact, I'll take you are claiming scum if you don't do that. That last post combined with, oh I was totally thinking VE was town but layabout you changed my world view bro post is horrible.. There's no way we can get the votes on him today, I'm sorry johnny. I didn't believe you before, and I thought you were scummy. My bad, I dropped the ball. Push this guy tomorrow, push him hard. I'm being too belligerent right now and I need to cool off. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On April 23 2012 07:47 Risen wrote: Layabout. Please respond. Why are you still on VE? Anyone else still on VE, why are you still on VE? terrible objection to gonzaw, terrible claim, terrible scumslip case on gonzaw, terribly timed claim in conjunction with gonzaw plan, and ragequitting. Since when is ragequitting a valid defence or pro-town play? | ||
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
Please tone it down guys (You know who you are). If this game degenerates into a flame fest, redff will be right, and we can't have that, can we? | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
Deadline in 10min right? Im posting from a phone so its not easy to read through the thread. If you're wondering, unless VE has made a case against someone since his martyring post, I take he is scum. | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On April 23 2012 07:45 Zephirdd wrote: Just for the record, im last minute voting VE in order to avoid a modkill; I dont recall any other candidate better than him either, although I kinda lost track since page 30 or so | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
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johnnywup
United States3858 Posts
On April 23 2012 07:52 Zephirdd wrote: Deadline in 10min right? Im posting from a phone so its not easy to read through the thread. If you're wondering, unless VE has made a case against someone since his martyring post, I take he is scum. "if he made a case he's ok though (no matter what the case was or against who), but i won't know because I don't actually read the thread". *sigh*. I don't understand. ;_; | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On April 23 2012 07:49 marvellosity wrote: Could you please update the OP with the deadline time, at the moment it still says TBD On April 23 2012 07:48 MidnightGladius wrote: Wait, when exactly is the deadline? Is it exactly 48 hours from the Day 1 post, ie ~1.5 hours from now? I'm envisioning scum in their IRC asking each other when the deadline is, not knowing and then coming into the thread and asking the question at the same time accidentally. | ||
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BlazingJitsu
United States112 Posts
On April 23 2012 07:45 MidnightGladius wrote: BJ, you're flooding the thread with duplicate posts and making it really hard for me to follow the dialogue. Yes, TL may have put a flood control on your account, but instead of posting short individual replies on multiple accounts, could you consolidate your posts and address everything at once? Also, with regards to your conviction: what would it take to convince you that you were wrong about marv? When I voted for him, it was because his posts were fluffy, and I told myself that if he started posting more substantially, then he would be less likely to be scum. From your perspective, his later posts reflected him playing to the standard you set for him. Instead of acquitting him, you used his behavior to further incriminate him. So I ask you this, and you don't have to answer in thread if you're afraid of WIFOM or whatever, but what would convince you that marv is town? If you're absolutely certain, and nothing could shift your beliefs, then remember that this is a game of incomplete information, and that you can't possibly be sure. Personally, I think lynching marv would make a terrible mislynch at this point. This is a fair point. I'll do my best to consolidate replies and posts and increase the legibility of this thread. I can get a bit out of hand at times. Regarding what could convince I was wrong about Marv: at this point, very little. If you take a look at Marv's development as a player, in the past few hours he's been posting like a regular guy, an acceptable contributor-- everything seems normal. if he had been posting like this all game, I wouldn't be on his ass like this. But at the beginning, at the time of my first case, he was super scummy-- posting several times and saying nothing. my initial case was to pressure him. He responded by trying to appear active, but still being worthless. i kept on pushing, and bit by bit he stepped up his game. Only with enormous pressure was I able to make him contribute. If he had become useful after my initial pressure, that would have been fine-- but his continued attempts to lurk were scummy. At this point, I am convinced Marv is scum and I will likely not be unconvinced unless something amazing happens. I will consider lynching someone else who is scum in an attempt to avoid mislynch, but voting Marv and getting him lynched is priority #1 for me. | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
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BlazingJitsu
United States112 Posts
On April 23 2012 07:52 iGrok wrote: Lynch in 1 hour. Please tone it down guys (You know who you are). If this game degenerates into a flame fest, redff will be right, and we can't have that, can we? Fair enough. Gentlemen, I am at your disposal. What can I do to get this Marv lynch rolling? -Blazinghand | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
On April 23 2012 07:55 johnnywup wrote: + Show Spoiler + On April 23 2012 07:52 Zephirdd wrote: Deadline in 10min right? Im posting from a phone so its not easy to read through the thread. If you're wondering, unless VE has made a case against someone since his martyring post, I take he is scum. "if he made a case he's ok though (no matter what the case was or against who), but i won't know because I don't actually read the thread". *sigh*. I don't understand. ;_; Oh hai read my filter. It is small. Really small. I explained it in the post I talk about VEs martyring. | ||
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BlazingJitsu
United States112 Posts
On April 23 2012 07:51 marvellosity wrote: terrible objection to gonzaw, terrible claim, terrible scumslip case on gonzaw, terribly timed claim in conjunction with gonzaw plan, and ragequitting. Since when is ragequitting a valid defence or pro-town play? It is not pro-town play, but it is typical VE play as town. He did something similar in SOAF IIRC. -Blazinghand | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
VE also isn't playing with his typical confidence. He says he doesn't care about his role because it doesn't help us find scum. He says that logic and reasoning help us find scum. He dismisses the reasoning presented against him by claiming his role whch does not align with this "logic and reasoning first" approach. He then goes on to provide us with no logic or reasoning to explain his reads and quits. | ||
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Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
Just sayin' | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
On April 23 2012 08:01 BlazingJitsu wrote: It is not pro-town play, but it is typical VE play as town. He did something similar in SOAF IIRC. -Blazinghand I think he was co-hosting that game Gonna go sleep. If you are afraid of killing VE then kill BM, neither of them care about the game anyway. | ||
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