EPTWho do you think the first scum is? BH or Tunkeg?
I'm a cop you idiot mafia - Page 7
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Dirkzor
Denmark1944 Posts
Who do you think the first scum is? BH or Tunkeg? | ||
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Tunkeg
Norway1235 Posts
On April 14 2012 18:13 Dirkzor wrote: I just don't understand why you'd have to lie about going to bed. Wouldn't it have been easier to just stop posting? It seemed you wanted to lure a reaction but at the same time you later wrote that you didn't think scum would claim cop so it just doesn't add up. The cop claim is already on the spotlight due the nature of the setup and the name. There is no avoiding a cop claim at some point during this game. All we had to figure out was when it was the best time to claim. So I don't agree with you here at all. With your logic anyone who talked about the cop claim and tried to figure out how it worked best/worst for us is town? Or am I mistaken here? Or is it only because you were the first one to bring it up that you are town? As I brought up the subject of the cop claim I think it is only fair to say when you leave. Starting a discussion and then just not answering isn't right in my book. Reason for not going to bed straight away was that I wanted to put some distance between the sending in of my n0 action, and my departure from the thread, just to not make it obv to scum that I got nightactions. If BH had waited lets say 20 more minutes before he claimed I wouldn't have been around. Were closing up a Dota2 and were waiting to respawn when I refreshed the thread and saw the claim. I was by no means sticking around for the counterclaim (but more so for a possible nightpost and a pm with my check, after I sent in my nightactions). I agree that a copclaim have to come eventually in this setup. But my logic is that it would be better for scum not to have it happening on n0. My logic is (although I am biased as hell in this) that scum would not be the one who bring this up early in n0, when first brought up they can swing whatever way (for or against), but I would definately not bring any attention to it if it weren't previously mentioned. Now I don't think BH thought I was the cop, and that this caught him offguard. This is also why I think his post after my counterclaim is abit inconsistent with his actual claim (saying he wanted to discuss it before doing it and so). His claim would have been way stronger if someone who had not previously talked about it was the cop. In fact if they had a single suspicion about me being cop he would just not do it, and just kill me as I would never had gotten a doc protection n0 in this lineup. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
That doesn't make his idea wrong though. Look, here's what's gonna happen D1: we'll be at lylo. Our cop needs to claim NOW, and get medic protection, and NOT call who he is checking. Saying "so he can get medic protection" means he probably didn't think very hard (not something the actual cop would do) because he overlooked the counterclaim. Sure, if no one CCs the cop he automatically gets free protection but what scumteam would let that happen? Also, he said the cop needs to claim now, but if he was actually the cop he would've claimed right away if he had that mindset to begin with. It's what I would do | ||
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Dirkzor
Denmark1944 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
if I rolled cop that's what I would've done 100% | ||
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Tunkeg
Norway1235 Posts
On April 14 2012 18:34 Dirkzor wrote: If you think it was bad for scum that the cop claimed n0 why didn't you claim? Why wait? Because I wanted the towns input on this. In a game like this I think not just the cop should decide when to claim. There is both pros and cons, I clearly thinking more pros than cons. But again my decision alone shouldn't decide whether I claim or not. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
The faster you claim the harder it is for scum to CC IMO. It's not much usually but it's something (e.g. scum would have to choose which player CCs and stuff) | ||
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Tunkeg
Norway1235 Posts
On April 14 2012 18:40 wherebugsgo wrote: there is no reason not to claim as cop. The faster you claim the harder it is for scum to CC IMO. It's not much usually but it's something (e.g. scum would have to choose which player CCs and stuff) Well, I don't have the experience nor confidence to take that decision straight from the get go. I don't want to fuck up the game by doing something not thought through. Hopefully post game discussion can give a clear guideline to what is optimal play though. | ||
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Tunkeg
Norway1235 Posts
Don't want these two posts to get burried as they are good posts on what happened with the claim and the counter claim: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=328827¤tpage=6#110 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=328827¤tpage=6#115 | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
im ar a zoo with the kid. will arnold this post later. ![[image loading]](http://imagecache6.allposters.com/LRG/36/3629/Z7WEF00Z.jpg) | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
##vote Blazinghand | ||
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Dirkzor
Denmark1944 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
actually to all of you, I'd like to hear who you think the second scum is. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
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Dirkzor
Denmark1944 Posts
WBG do you think we should just head directly into n1 asap? and then find the last scum d1 with potentially less targets? | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
On April 14 2012 19:20 Dirkzor wrote: BH stop cluttering the thread. Thats just annoying. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/JUqCZ.gif) | ||
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