I'm a cop you idiot mafia - Page 19

[4/13/2012 11:20:20 PM] Blazinghand: yo
[4/13/2012 11:20:22 PM] Blazinghand: so i claimed cop
[4/13/2012 11:20:24 PM] Dirkzor: Hi there!
[4/13/2012 11:20:26 PM] Dirkzor: Dirk here
[4/13/2012 11:20:29 PM] Dirkzor: yeah i saw
[4/13/2012 11:20:30 PM] Blazinghand: since the cop claim was inevitable
[4/13/2012 11:20:39 PM] Dirkzor: yeha. one of us had to do it
[4/13/2012 11:20:43 PM] Blazinghand: who should we shoot?
[4/13/2012 11:20:49 PM] Dirkzor: still reading last page now Just woke up
[4/13/2012 11:20:58 PM] Blazinghand: kk
[4/13/2012 11:21:15 PM] Blazinghand: i'm considering johnnywup because he supported me
[4/13/2012 11:21:32 PM] Dirkzor: Right now we should shoot WBG i think. Radfield is making ton of sense but I don't think he is a blue. and the blue wins this game
[4/13/2012 11:21:36 PM] Blazinghand: ok
[4/13/2012 11:21:42 PM] Blazinghand: i'll PM Palm
[4/13/2012 11:21:49 PM] Dirkzor: wait we have time
[4/13/2012 11:21:56 PM] Dirkzor: let me read the rest first and post =)
[4/13/2012 11:22:02 PM] Blazinghand: ok
[4/13/2012 11:22:03 PM] Blazinghand: I sent in the JW shot already
[4/13/2012 11:22:06 PM] Blazinghand: so i'm gonna change it
[4/13/2012 11:22:12 PM] Blazinghand: just because WBG sounds smarter
[4/13/2012 11:22:17 PM] Dirkzor: let it stay for now
[4/13/2012 11:22:19 PM] Blazinghand: oh ok
[4/13/2012 11:22:31 PM] Dirkzor: what the time in your zone now?
[4/13/2012 11:22:35 PM] Blazinghand: 11:20 pm
[4/13/2012 11:22:40 PM] Blazinghand: i'll be up for another 3-4 hours
[4/13/2012 11:22:45 PM] Dirkzor: ok
[4/13/2012 11:22:46 PM] Dirkzor: super
[4/13/2012 11:23:54 PM] Blazinghand: N0 is only 12 hours btw
[4/13/2012 11:24:09 PM] Dirkzor: yeah.. 3½ h left
[4/13/2012 11:28:44 PM] Dirkzor: hmm. YOu're dead =)
[4/13/2012 11:28:59 PM] Blazinghand: should we just shoot tunkeg
[4/13/2012 11:29:37 PM] Dirkzor: I was thinking about it. That way town don't get to me by being lucky and they dont get anymore confirmed towns by way of him checking.
[4/13/2012 11:29:55 PM] Dirkzor: But i just have to think it through. I bus/vote you d1
[4/13/2012 11:30:11 PM] Blazinghand: yeah I mean there is another option right
[4/13/2012 11:30:14 PM] Blazinghand: shoot a townie
[4/13/2012 11:30:19 PM] Blazinghand: and you just buddy up to tunkeg
[4/13/2012 11:31:32 PM] Dirkzor: hmm... Right now tunkeg won't ever check radfield.
[4/13/2012 11:31:40 PM] Blazinghand: right
[4/13/2012 11:31:50 PM] Blazinghand: I think he's gonna check JW
[4/13/2012 11:31:55 PM] Blazinghand: which is why i want to shoot JW
[4/13/2012 11:31:55 PM] Dirkzor: or BL
[4/13/2012 11:32:14 PM] Blazinghand: if we can shoot whoever he's checking
[4/13/2012 11:32:21 PM] Blazinghand: he'll look very bad
[4/13/2012 11:33:04 PM] Dirkzor: yeah. But do you want to risk it?
[4/13/2012 11:33:28 PM] Dirkzor: I would rather end up with a scenario like this:
[4/13/2012 11:34:42 PM] Dirkzor: n0: Shoot tunkeg
d1: Lynch you
N1: Shoot whoever i think is medic (or the most townie). Medic have 25% to save.
d2: 4 players alive. LYLO. no one confirmed.
[4/13/2012 11:35:03 PM] Blazinghand: the good news is we go into D2 with no good discussion happening
[4/13/2012 11:35:03 PM] Dirkzor: With me BL and mattchew is should be able to come out alive
[4/13/2012 11:35:13 PM] Blazinghand: ok, I agree with this plan
[4/13/2012 11:35:19 PM] Blazinghand: i'll change the shot to tunkeg
[4/13/2012 11:35:36 PM] Dirkzor: But it all depends on if we want to get lucky now or lucky later
[4/13/2012 11:36:04 PM] Blazinghand: if we dont' shoot tunkeg though,a nd I get lynched D1
[4/13/2012 11:36:05 PM] Dirkzor: we have to dodge 2 medics with my plan (tonight and night1) or get lucky and kill the right dude to night
[4/13/2012 11:36:21 PM] Blazinghand: we're looking at 3 confirmed town players D2
[4/13/2012 11:36:25 PM] Blazinghand: unless we shoot one of them of course
[4/13/2012 11:36:40 PM] Blazinghand: if Radfield hasn't made his case I'd say we shoot JW
[4/13/2012 11:36:46 PM] Blazinghand: but after the Radfield case it might be better just to shoot tunkeg
[4/13/2012 11:38:32 PM] Dirkzor: another scenario:
we shoot JW. Tunk checked BL.
d1: You get lynched (most likely). Now there are 2 confirmed.
n1: I shoot either BL (can't shoot Tunkeg due to the medic)
[4/13/2012 11:38:56 PM] Dirkzor: d2: Ends with me, rad, wbg, tunkeg at lylo. 2 confirmed.
[4/13/2012 11:39:16 PM] Blazinghand: then it's basically you vs the other unconfirmed guy
[4/13/2012 11:39:20 PM] Dirkzor: yeah
[4/13/2012 11:39:36 PM] Blazinghand: if tunkeg checked JW though, then we have a strong chance D1
[4/13/2012 11:40:03 PM] Blazinghand: the real question is how confident we are that tunkeg is going to check JW
[4/13/2012 11:40:44 PM] Dirkzor: Not very good. WBG havent posted anything usefull yet. Mattchew is being an idiot. BL is spewing nonsense and I havent even posted
[4/13/2012 11:40:53 PM] Dirkzor: so he have reason to check any of the 4
[4/13/2012 11:41:14 PM] Dirkzor: If i start posting sense (which i should soon) that leaves maybe only 3
[4/13/2012 11:41:40 PM] Blazinghand: tunkeg is asleep though
[4/13/2012 11:41:43 PM] Dirkzor: But will medic protect Tunkeg n0?
[4/13/2012 11:41:44 PM] Blazinghand: he probably already sent in his check
[4/13/2012 11:41:53 PM] Blazinghand: medic MIGHT protect tunkeg n0
[4/13/2012 11:41:55 PM] Blazinghand: but that's a huge risk
[4/13/2012 11:42:06 PM] Blazinghand: because... if tunkeg is scum
[4/13/2012 11:42:13 PM] Dirkzor: yeah..
[4/13/2012 11:42:22 PM] Blazinghand: and we're expected to shoot into the VTs looking for the medic
[4/13/2012 11:42:32 PM] Dirkzor: I think we should kill Tunkeg.
[4/13/2012 11:42:39 PM] Blazinghand: I think so as well
[4/13/2012 11:42:42 PM] Blazinghand: I'll send in the shot.
[4/13/2012 11:43:17 PM] Dirkzor: problem is medic will protect rad/WBG night1 and I don't want those guys at LYLO :D But thats my problem I guess.
[4/13/2012 11:44:08 PM] Blazinghand: very well
[4/13/2012 11:44:11 PM] Blazinghand: I have pmed Palmar
[4/13/2012 11:44:33 PM] Blazinghand: at this point I think i'm just gonna be silent until daybreak unless you need me to bus or something
[4/13/2012 11:45:18 PM] Dirkzor: good. Don't bus today. It will be obvious once Tunkeg dies that you as scum would be anti his team mate.
[4/13/2012 11:45:35 PM] Dirkzor: So basicly doing nothing leaves be pretty neutral so they can't find me through you
[4/13/2012 11:45:42 PM] Dirkzor: leaves me*
[4/13/2012 11:45:49 PM] Blazinghand: gotcha
[4/13/2012 11:46:41 PM] Dirkzor: But I will be leaning you as scum and support radfeilds case. That will make radfeild even more town and hopefully me aswell by extension
[4/13/2012 11:46:54 PM] Blazinghand: gotcha
[4/13/2012 11:47:04 PM] Blazinghand: i won't respond to your or Rad until morning
[4/13/2012 11:47:10 PM] Blazinghand: and D1
[4/13/2012 11:47:13 PM] Blazinghand: I guess I just won't talk
[4/13/2012 11:47:15 PM] Blazinghand: since tunkeg will be dead
[4/13/2012 11:47:18 PM] Blazinghand: i'll be claimed scum
[4/13/2012 11:47:30 PM] Dirkzor: posting time! So fun being scum btw. First time I'm scum btw
[4/13/2012 11:47:31 PM] Dirkzor: yeah
[4/13/2012 11:47:35 PM] Blazinghand: me too
[4/13/2012 11:47:36 PM] Blazinghand: rofl
[4/13/2012 11:49:21 PM] Blazinghand: oh at daybreak i'll post one final message
[4/13/2012 11:49:23 PM] Blazinghand: "blow me town"
[4/13/2012 11:49:28 PM] Dirkzor: hahaha
[4/13/2012 11:49:52 PM] Blazinghand: brb
[4/13/2012 11:53:22 PM] Blazinghand: btw i'm blazinghand.736 on EU
[4/13/2012 11:54:20 PM] Dirkzor: Im.. eh... I dont play
[4/13/2012 11:54:27 PM] Blazinghand: oh
[4/13/2012 11:54:28 PM] Blazinghand: lol
[4/13/2012 11:54:35 PM] Dirkzor: well... very rarely.
[4/13/2012 11:54:35 PM] Blazinghand: what brings you by TL, then?
[4/13/2012 11:54:46 PM] Dirkzor: SC2 did... but mostly to watch
[4/13/2012 11:55:19 PM] Blazinghand: cool
[4/13/2012 11:55:23 PM] Blazinghand: i'm watching GSL right now
[4/13/2012 11:55:56 PM] Dirkzor: yeah... I would be but i need to post Its going to get a big one
[4/14/2012 12:01:23 AM] Blazinghand: another thought is you could support me really hard
[4/14/2012 12:01:33 AM] Blazinghand: and then when i claim scum it'll be like "oh hey dirk must be town
[4/14/2012 12:01:41 AM] Blazinghand: cause scum would know if tunkeg was gonna die"
[4/14/2012 12:01:59 AM] Dirkzor: hmm...
[4/14/2012 12:02:05 AM] Dirkzor: maybe
[4/14/2012 12:02:49 AM] Dirkzor: I don't know. I just think I want to go into d1 without to much of a reputation. Then I should be able to argue that BL or mattchew is scummy..
[4/14/2012 12:02:55 AM] Blazinghand: true
[4/14/2012 12:03:00 AM] Blazinghand: mattchew and BL are both scummy
[4/14/2012 12:03:12 AM] Blazinghand: just throwing out another way you could get a little bit of towniness
[4/14/2012 12:03:16 AM] Blazinghand: it's sorta a gambit though
[4/14/2012 12:03:22 AM] Dirkzor: mm
[4/14/2012 12:03:29 AM] Dirkzor: I'll think about while posting =)
[4/14/2012 12:50:34 AM] Dirkzor: Okay. Good morning =) (And sorry for drunk posting. Wasn't as bad as other players though )

What I learned from DF2 was keep it simple. What that means here is to resolve the BH/Tunkeg thingy. While Radfields case is making sense I'll try to make my own case and own conclusions.



Tunkeg first post is solid. It makes sense. But why does he assume the Medic should be on the cop? He was expecting a counterclaim which means the Medic have to choose between the 2 cop claims on who to protect. From a scum perspective it would be fine since they get 25% chance to hit the medic out of the last remaining townies. A medic save besicly wins the game for us.
But I get a town feeling from this. It just stood out to me.

Then he go to fake-claim going to bed (lol).

BH comes in supporting the claim.


If BH is cop. Why didn't he just claim right here? He already seemed convinced that it was the best choice. (Bolded) He also doesn't mention counter claiming at all. Scenario B will never happen since scum are forced to counter claim. I find it weird that being a cop you would not think about a possible counterclaim. BH also auto assumes that medic will protect the cop - maybe because he didn't think about counter claims at all.

Radfield post his super logic about claim or not to claim and BH instantly claims Cop. It lines up with him having already made up his mind.
This makes me think BH thought about what being a cop would mean but since it very basic anyone could have brought it up.

Tunkeg counter claims the cop claim. I don't get why he had to fake-claim going to bed in order to be able to counter-claim. But only townies (or insane scum) stay up just to change the course of a game. I've never been scum, but as town I have set my alarm in the dead of night to vote just to be sure I did everything I could as town.

Tunkeg and BH goes at eachother. Most post are entirely useless to town. But some stands out:

But BH didn't discuss it? His first post he was already dead set on that the Cop should claim and he instant claimed after Radfields post (where Radfield himself was asking for discussion and not just stating: "Do this!")

Anyone in this game should suggest a cop claim. The game revolve around the cop. It's WIFOM to say "I would never as scum..." I find it interesting that he think (and points out) that scum would never suggest a cop claim. We have 2 people who were both for the claim and one of them have to be scum. So scum would suggest the claim. Looks to me like he is saying he is town with very very poor logic.

I would, if I were cop, go back and read the OP very carefully to fully understand my role. It's weird that Tunkeg assumed he was a role cop. His PM doesn't say and as far as I'm aware alignment cops are the norm? This can be a misunderstanding but it could be a "slip". I don't think we should put much focus on this since we won't know which it is.

To conclude something. Both have done things that I find scummy or "weird-if-town". The biggest point for me is that Tunkeg stayed up. Radfield naiiled when he said that scum is always looking for a reason to NOT be active. Sleeping is the best and most valid reason. I went to bed and I live in the same timezone as Tunkeg. Why wouldn't he do it? Because he know the game revolved around the cop and he was the cop so he HAD to stay up to make a difference.
A big scumtell on BH is how he, in his first post, was dead set on claiming. But didn't. Then when Radfield made logic work he claimed. Later he claimed his mindset was to "wait and discuss". His words and actions just didn't add up.

I would say that BH is the best guess of who is scum right now. But we have plenty of time tomorrow to figure it out. Don't be hasty with your votes btw. If 2 townies vote for wrong one scum can hammer and we loose. So first we agree and then we vote.
[4/14/2012 12:50:50 AM] Dirkzor: copy that to TL and read it. Tell me what you think
[4/14/2012 12:50:57 AM] Blazinghand: ok
[4/14/2012 12:51:02 AM] Dirkzor: (just dont fucking post it LOL)
[4/14/2012 12:52:49 AM] Blazinghand: "But only townies (or insane scum) stay up just to change the course of a game"
[4/14/2012 12:52:51 AM] Blazinghand: I'd reword this
[4/14/2012 12:53:48 AM] Blazinghand: and be like "a scum player wouldn't do this, this is a very bold move, as a town player would make"
[4/14/2012 12:53:49 AM] Blazinghand: or something
[4/14/2012 12:54:21 AM] Dirkzor: okay.. yeah..
[4/14/2012 12:54:54 AM] Blazinghand: "
I would say that BH is the best guess of who is scum right now. But we have plenty of time tomorrow to figure it out. Don't be hasty with your votes btw. If 2 townies vote for wrong one scum can hammer and we loose. So first we agree and then we vote."
[4/14/2012 12:54:56 AM] Blazinghand: this is really good
[4/14/2012 12:55:01 AM] Blazinghand: I like that you end with that paragraph
[4/14/2012 12:55:07 AM] Blazinghand: overall this is a good post
[4/14/2012 12:55:28 AM] Blazinghand: make sure you send it in before palmar triggers day post
[4/14/2012 12:55:38 AM] Blazinghand: Day 1 is going to be very short
[4/14/2012 12:55:42 AM] Blazinghand: i'll probably get instahammered
[4/14/2012 12:55:46 AM] Blazinghand: btw
[4/14/2012 12:55:54 AM] Dirkzor: yeah
[4/14/2012 12:55:58 AM] Blazinghand: make sure you vote for me as soon as tunkeg flips cop
[4/14/2012 12:56:02 AM] Blazinghand: or at lest, quickly
[4/14/2012 12:56:05 AM] Dirkzor: yeah
[4/14/2012 12:56:18 AM] Dirkzor: Who do you tihnk is the medic?
[4/14/2012 12:56:26 AM] Blazinghand: hmmmmm
[4/14/2012 12:56:27 AM] Dirkzor: if I could hit him n1 it would be insane
[4/14/2012 12:56:38 AM] Blazinghand: yeah if you hit the medic n1 we're in a good shape
[4/14/2012 12:57:26 AM] Blazinghand: in any case, once i'm hammered I can't help you any more
[4/14/2012 12:57:30 AM] Blazinghand: i'll become an observer
[4/14/2012 12:57:36 AM] Blazinghand: bluelightz typically is quiet
[4/14/2012 12:57:50 AM] Dirkzor: good for me.
[4/14/2012 12:57:55 AM] Dirkzor: should be lynchable =)
[4/14/2012 12:58:03 AM] Dirkzor: Tunkeg counter claims the cop claim. I don't get why he had to fake-claim going to bed in order to be able to counter-claim. It just seems very townie-like to stay up like that. I've never been scum, but as town I have set my alarm in the dead of night to vote just to be sure I did everything I could as town.
[4/14/2012 12:58:07 AM] Blazinghand: I dont' think Radfield is the medic
[4/14/2012 12:58:09 AM] Dirkzor: re-wrote it
[4/14/2012 12:58:14 AM] Blazinghand: I think he'd be more quiet about his scum reads as the medic
[4/14/2012 12:58:57 AM] Blazinghand: WBG might be
[4/14/2012 12:59:33 AM] Dirkzor: its hard
[4/14/2012 1:00:07 AM] Blazinghand: I like this new paragraph
[4/14/2012 1:00:18 AM] Dirkzor: posted
[4/14/2012 1:00:21 AM] Blazinghand: so i mean, as available "could be the medic" people
[4/14/2012 1:00:27 AM] Blazinghand: we've got BL, JW, Rad, WBG
[4/14/2012 1:00:31 AM] Blazinghand: Rad seems too aggressive
[4/14/2012 1:00:36 AM] Blazinghand: I wouldn't shoot BL
[4/14/2012 1:00:41 AM] Blazinghand: because he's good to keep around
[4/14/2012 1:00:41 AM] Blazinghand: as a mislynch
[4/14/2012 1:00:45 AM] Dirkzor: yeah
[4/14/2012 1:00:52 AM] Dirkzor: mattchew aswell
[4/14/2012 1:00:57 AM] Dirkzor: with his stupid vote thingy
[4/14/2012 1:00:58 AM] Blazinghand: oh I forgot about mattchew
[4/14/2012 1:01:01 AM] Blazinghand: wait
[4/14/2012 1:01:06 AM] Blazinghand: i thought the player loist was
[4/14/2012 1:01:11 AM] Blazinghand: BL, JW, Rad, Tunkeg, WBG, you, me
[4/14/2012 1:01:37 AM] Blazinghand: 7 players
[4/14/2012 1:02:23 AM] Blazinghand: so I'd say, keep BL around as mislynch material
[4/14/2012 1:02:23 AM] Dirkzor: it is lol
[4/14/2012 1:02:37 AM] Dirkzor: everytime I'd written mattchew I meant johnnywup
[4/14/2012 1:02:39 AM] Blazinghand: ah
[4/14/2012 1:02:40 AM] Blazinghand: ok
[4/14/2012 1:02:45 AM] Blazinghand: yeah, the big thing is
[4/14/2012 1:02:48 AM] Blazinghand: if you can't tell who the medic is
[4/14/2012 1:02:51 AM] Blazinghand: shoot JW
[4/14/2012 1:02:58 AM] Blazinghand: I THINK WBG is the medic
[4/14/2012 1:03:01 AM] Blazinghand: that's what my gut says
[4/14/2012 1:03:10 AM] Blazinghand: but if WBG isn't the medic, the medic may be protecting him
[4/14/2012 1:03:16 AM] Blazinghand: the medic will definitely protect him or radfield
[4/14/2012 1:03:26 AM] Dirkzor: Think it will be rad who protected
[4/14/2012 1:03:34 AM] Dirkzor: every night
[4/14/2012 1:03:35 AM] Blazinghand: yeah rad will have a lot of town cred after i flip
[4/14/2012 1:03:40 AM] Blazinghand: and i dont' think rad is medic
[4/14/2012 1:03:42 AM] Blazinghand: so
[4/14/2012 1:03:46 AM] Dirkzor: agree
[4/14/2012 1:03:53 AM] Blazinghand: shooting WBG is probablyt he right move
[4/14/2012 1:03:57 AM] Blazinghand: and JW and BL are both weak players
[4/14/2012 1:04:02 AM] Blazinghand: making it hard to lynch you
[4/14/2012 1:04:05 AM] Dirkzor: mm
[4/14/2012 1:04:36 AM] Dirkzor: I think the ranking would be:
rad
WBG
Me/Johnny
BL

in how good they are perceived
[4/14/2012 1:05:04 AM] Blazinghand: sounds about right
[4/14/2012 1:05:09 AM | Edited 1:05:13 AM] Blazinghand: JW will look bad after i flip
[4/14/2012 1:05:38 AM] Dirkzor: Yeah. I'll push the thought about him basicly bussing you because he knew Tunkeg would die
[4/14/2012 1:05:59 AM] Blazinghand: sounds like a good plan
[4/14/2012 1:06:15 AM] Dirkzor: This is very interesting =)
[4/14/2012 1:06:19 AM] Blazinghand: it's a fun setup
[4/14/2012 1:06:21 AM] Blazinghand: very fast-paced
[4/14/2012 1:06:31 AM] Dirkzor: hehe yeah :D
[4/14/2012 1:09:20 AM] Dirkzor: And now: GSL!
[4/14/2012 1:09:32 AM] Dirkzor: Naniwa made it trough!!! WOO! Did he play well?
[4/14/2012 1:09:38 AM] Blazinghand: yeah
[4/14/2012 1:09:39 AM] Dirkzor: I was at work so couldn't watch
[4/14/2012 1:09:51 AM] Blazinghand: i think the vod of game 1 is free
[4/14/2012 1:10:10 AM] Blazinghand: I hope naniwa makes it to the Ro8
[4/14/2012 1:10:32 AM] Dirkzor: yeah.. Would be insane.. But i think he needs a PvP to do it...
[4/14/2012 1:11:15 AM] Blazinghand: it really depends who's in his group in the 2nd group stages
[4/14/2012 1:12:26 AM] Blazinghand: MC vs Inca happening atm
[4/14/2012 1:12:40 AM] Dirkzor: yeah
[4/14/2012 1:13:48 AM] Dirkzor: i love pvp... so much action =)
[4/14/2012 2:10:09 AM] Blazinghand: daybreak in about 30 minutes
[4/14/2012 2:10:24 AM] Dirkzor: aye
[4/14/2012 2:46:15 AM] Dirkzor: any thoughts about WBG now that he posted a bit?
[4/14/2012 2:47:03 AM] Blazinghand: i mean, i have a townread on him
[4/14/2012 2:47:13 AM] Dirkzor: obviously
[4/14/2012 2:47:36 AM] Blazinghand: he's being very "town"
[4/14/2012 2:47:43 AM] Blazinghand: I think he's not the medic
[4/14/2012 2:47:44 AM] Blazinghand: and he anticipates being protected
[4/14/2012 2:48:26 AM] Dirkzor: damn... I don't want the medic to be BL or Johnny. If they are and I try to get one of them lynched I have to counter claim
[4/14/2012 2:49:55 AM] Blazinghand: "
Well, I don't have the experience nor confidence to take that decision straight from the get go" -tunkeg
[4/14/2012 2:50:00 AM] Blazinghand: man
[4/14/2012 2:50:02 AM] Blazinghand: mannnn
[4/14/2012 2:50:06 AM] Blazinghand: tunkeg playing such a bad cop
[4/14/2012 2:50:15 AM] Dirkzor: hehe =)
[4/14/2012 2:50:34 AM] Dirkzor: I'm sure if I should point out he is playing the newbie card..
[4/14/2012 2:51:22 AM] Blazinghand: remember he's gonna flip in like 5 minutes
[4/14/2012 2:51:35 AM] Dirkzor: yeah... But i dont know that
[4/14/2012 2:52:29 AM] Dirkzor: I'll just stop posting.. I came out of n0 looking town i think. I made a good case, pushed discussion and with no bias...
[4/14/2012 2:52:54 AM] Blazinghand: at this point
[4/14/2012 2:52:58 AM] Blazinghand: just stay silent until the flip
[4/14/2012 2:54:34 AM] Dirkzor: SUPER!
[4/14/2012 2:54:44 AM] Dirkzor: he just pointed me out as a town read
[4/14/2012 2:56:29 AM] Blazinghand: nice
[4/14/2012 2:56:48 AM] Blazinghand: so you and Rad are basically gonna have a lot of town cred
[4/14/2012 2:56:55 AM] Dirkzor: mm
[4/14/2012 2:57:31 AM] Dirkzor: If i can just keep this going town have to lynch into WBG/BL/Johnny. I just hope our night kills goes through.
[4/14/2012 2:57:47 AM] Blazinghand: it's pretty unlikely tunkeg got protected
[4/14/2012 2:57:54 AM] Blazinghand: if he did, medic will claim and i'll get lynched D1 like normal
[4/14/2012 2:58:03 AM] Blazinghand: and you'll have to shoot the medic N1
[4/14/2012 2:58:05 AM] Dirkzor: yeah... radfield pointed it out aswell as a "bad" option for scum
[4/14/2012 3:09:28 AM] Dirkzor: hahaha
[4/14/2012 3:09:34 AM] Dirkzor: I laughed when I saw your post
[4/14/2012 3:12:07 AM] Dirkzor: GG mate! Good claim. One of us had to do it at some point =)
[4/14/2012 3:12:13 AM] Blazinghand: um
[4/14/2012 3:12:15 AM] Blazinghand: just vote me now
[4/14/2012 3:12:16 AM] Blazinghand: imo
[4/14/2012 3:12:25 AM] Blazinghand: like
[4/14/2012 3:12:31 AM] Blazinghand: no real discussion can happenw hile i'm alive
[4/14/2012 3:14:30 AM] Dirkzor: Thats just not me. I'm trying to play this as I would as town. The others will vote you no worries...
[4/14/2012 3:15:22 AM] Blazinghand: kk
[4/14/2012 3:20:17 AM] Dirkzor: cluttering the thread is fine =)
[4/14/2012 3:23:49 AM] Dirkzor:
Why did you post this before the kill post? like you already knew we had found scum #1? Did you know who would die, scum? You also then instantly votes for BH to gain towncred by voted the obvious scum.

Only me that finds this suspecious?
[4/14/2012 3:23:52 AM] Dirkzor: good or bad post?
[4/14/2012 3:28:19 AM] Blazinghand: WBG's question is definitely suspicious
[4/14/2012 3:28:24 AM] Blazinghand: calling him out for it is reasonable
[4/14/2012 3:28:30 AM] Blazinghand: that being said
[4/14/2012 3:28:36 AM] Blazinghand: the 2nd scum is now aq good thing to talk about
[4/14/2012 3:28:40 AM] Blazinghand: like, as of tunkeg's flip
[4/14/2012 3:28:46 AM] Blazinghand: so specficy that the question was bad then
[4/14/2012 3:28:47 AM] Blazinghand: but good now
[4/14/2012 3:28:53 AM] Dirkzor: yeah
[4/14/2012 3:28:54 AM] Blazinghand: and that asking it back then is what scum would do
[4/14/2012 3:28:57 AM] Blazinghand: asking it NOW is what town does
[4/14/2012 3:30:34 AM] Dirkzor:
Why did you post this before the kill post? like you already knew we had found scum #1? Did you know who would die, scum? You also then instantly votes for BH to gain towncred by voted the obvious scum.

Only me that finds this suspicious?

I mean asking this after we have confirmed BH as scum is the next logical step towards winning this, but asking before the flip?! Just doesn't seem very townie-like to do...
[4/14/2012 3:30:42 AM] Dirkzor: bolded the before in the first sentence aswell
[4/14/2012 3:31:00 AM] Blazinghand: sounds good
[4/14/2012 3:31:01 AM] Blazinghand: do it
[4/14/2012 3:34:34 AM] Dirkzor: whatever medic tell you find just post it to me here. I'll make up my mind later if I want to try and kill the medic or whoever is less likely to be protected and not someone I can get a mislynch on
[4/14/2012 3:36:16 AM] Blazinghand: ok
[4/14/2012 3:36:21 AM] Blazinghand: i'm probably dead pretty soon
[4/14/2012 3:36:25 AM] Blazinghand: after which i won't be able to help you any more
[4/14/2012 3:36:48 AM] Dirkzor: thats why you should post just when you find them... :D (ofc stop when you die. No cheating! )
[4/14/2012 3:37:10 AM] Dirkzor: BL could be the medic. Why would he talk about that the medic protected BH...
[4/14/2012 3:37:14 AM] Dirkzor: makes no sense
[4/14/2012 3:37:18 AM] Dirkzor: but then again BL never makes sense
[4/14/2012 3:37:38 AM] Blazinghand: yeah i wouldn't consider that a medic tell from BL
[4/14/2012 3:37:42 AM] Blazinghand: he's unreadable to me
[4/14/2012 3:40:57 AM] Dirkzor: lol BL called me town.
[4/14/2012 3:58:09 AM] Blazinghand: dude BL is burying himself
[4/14/2012 3:58:10 AM] Blazinghand: this is great
[4/14/2012 3:58:13 AM] Blazinghand: just let him interact with wBG
[4/14/2012 4:02:15 AM] Dirkzor: yeah
[4/14/2012 4:02:50 AM] Dirkzor: i'll be away for 30 in or so... Have to get some food.
[4/14/2012 4:02:53 AM] Blazinghand: kk
[4/14/2012 4:03:03 AM] Blazinghand: i don't really know what i'm doing in the thread
[4/14/2012 4:03:11 AM] Blazinghand: rofl
[4/14/2012 4:03:16 AM] Dirkzor: you're just fucking it up thats what... and its good fun :D
[4/14/2012 4:09:26 AM] Blazinghand: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=328827&currentpage=10#197
[4/14/2012 4:09:27 AM] Blazinghand: ROFL
[4/14/2012 4:09:32 AM] Blazinghand: this is so good
[4/14/2012 4:11:45 AM] Dirkzor: Rad think I'm town too... He doesn't mention me at all..
[4/14/2012 4:11:49 AM] Dirkzor: Well shopping brb
[4/14/2012 4:12:09 AM] Blazinghand: kk