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Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
April 18 2012 05:56 GMT
#381
DIrkzor slipped in the end. If he was town, and he was sure BL was mafia, then he would have known jonny to be medic by process of elimination. Dirkzor would have had to counter claim medic if BL had been medic, so he could not commit to a role untill he knew who was the real medic. So when dirkzor posts a line wondering how bluelights knew jonny to be medic, it should be clear dirkzor doesn't know his own town role. For setting up that gambit alone i think BL did ok, and it was just up to jonny to realise this.

Gg was entertaining. Medic/detective night actions?
Bartundar
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 18 2012 06:02 GMT
#382
fail/fail/fail
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 18 2012 06:03 GMT
#383
honestly i dont want to say because its embarrasing
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
April 18 2012 06:09 GMT
#384
It wasn't Dirkzor/Dirkzor/Dirkzor was it?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 18 2012 07:10 GMT
#385
no it wasnt, blazing :p
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
April 18 2012 07:35 GMT
#386
On April 18 2012 14:56 Barundar wrote:
DIrkzor slipped in the end. If he was town, and he was sure BL was mafia, then he would have known jonny to be medic by process of elimination. Dirkzor would have had to counter claim medic if BL had been medic, so he could not commit to a role untill he knew who was the real medic. So when dirkzor posts a line wondering how bluelights knew jonny to be medic, it should be clear dirkzor doesn't know his own town role. For setting up that gambit alone i think BL did ok, and it was just up to jonny to realise this.

Gg was entertaining. Medic/detective night actions?


This is wrong. If I was town either Johnny or BL could be the medic. I had no way to know before BL obviously did not claim medic in the end. BL just blatantly stated that Johnny was medic due him being so sure the last scum was between me and Rad. He had no real evidence however, only his own conviction.

Thanks for hosting Palmar! The setup was REALLY cool and super intense!

BH - Good job claiming cop! =) I'm sorry I had to sacrafice you but Radfield had your number early.

I kinda rushed a bit in the end while I throughout the game had played for the long run. Was bad. I shot Radfield in the end since I wouldn't end up in a situation where it was between me and him. Even if medic had protected him it would never be between me and him. It would have been Radfield + medic confirmed against me and either BL/Johnny.

I'm at work and will write more when i get home =)

Super game!
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
April 18 2012 07:46 GMT
#387
Good job Scum team.
LiangHao
bashful1
Profile Joined April 2011
17 Posts
April 18 2012 07:52 GMT
#388
This is wrong. If I was town either Johnny or BL could be the medic. I had no way to know before BL obviously did not claim medic in the end. BL just blatantly stated that Johnny was medic due him being so sure the last scum was between me and Rad. He had no real evidence however, only his own conviction.

He had his own conviction and the exact knowledge of his role, which is more than you could have pretended to have. If he had been scum it would have been a very high risk gamble to guess on the exact roles instead of just fake claiming medic and play it out from there. You had to wait for him to claim, because you couldn't risk claiming same role as jonny.

Ofcourse this is not 100 % complete evidence, but it should have been enough to look through your posts very carefully.

In any case, gz on the win
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
April 18 2012 08:59 GMT
#389
Thanks for playing.
Computer says mafia
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
April 18 2012 09:32 GMT
#390
This is why I don't play mafia here (or on the internet, speaking globally). Because a) it is again and again shown how random it is without physically interacting with the people b) it is played with people like Blazinghand who think that this kind of behaviour is good (or even fun). In this game, all what it took for Mafia to win at the end was to basically play for town.

Nevertheless, its fun reading you guys (and I finally succeeded in following a mafia that enede up short enough to keep my attention!)
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
April 18 2012 10:11 GMT
#391
Sorry wbg & radfield .

;;

I thought people could believe me just this once ;_;

One-liners dont mean any fucking shit if that's really all he want's to say, hell I could just make a fucking list, speculate on crap and still consider it fucking worthy?

Also I can see why jwup protected Dirk

Scum (He thought it was me) will kill directly into dirk/radfield to incrimenate the other therefore he protected Dirkzor thinking he would get hit and confirm radfield and dirk and jwup.

Well played Dirk .

If only I pushed my reads more
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
April 18 2012 10:13 GMT
#392
I think it was an okay strategy by BH to spam, and then Dirkzor to tell that it cluttered the thread, and he should stop. It added to the fact that Dirkzor seemed less scummy. Online gives other options for strategies, I assume.

But I don't know. I have never played this game. Why not give it a try before you say it is not for you, just because it is different?

You could join this game. It seems it needs players: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=329508

I think you should consider it.
LiangHao
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
April 18 2012 10:48 GMT
#393
BH spamming and me calling it out was intentional. Was about to point out that BL interacted with BH spam-fest making BL more scum... I decided against it though.

I'm looking forward to radfields take on this... looking through the scum qt it seemed I fooled a lot of people I don't understand how people could find radfield scummy at all. Everything he posted made so much sense even though he was wrong....
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
April 18 2012 10:49 GMT
#394
This game was won because of good scumplay, and to an extent low activity by town. You might say it is random, and sure there will allways be some randomness, but in the end it came down to scum outplaying town, again.

Don't apologize BL. Yeah, you may be hard to read, but thats part of the game, some players are harder to read. If everyone was easy to figure out this game would be pointless. As long as you try your best to win regardless of alignment don't apologize.

And also for you johnny, don't feel down for beeing wrong. I love how these pro veteran comes in after the game and tell how easy it was to see that Dirkzor was scum. Don't know if their motives is to make you look bad or to make themselves look great. But in hindsight everything is easy, so don't feel bad.
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
April 18 2012 10:50 GMT
#395
Oh and please say who you protected every night... I'm guessing rad/rad/me
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
April 18 2012 10:54 GMT
#396
On April 18 2012 19:48 Dirkzor wrote:
BH spamming and me calling it out was intentional. Was about to point out that BL interacted with BH spam-fest making BL more scum... I decided against it though.

I'm looking forward to radfields take on this... looking through the scum qt it seemed I fooled a lot of people I don't understand how people could find radfield scummy at all. Everything he posted made so much sense even though he was wrong....


Radfield was to good as a townie. His reads were almost to perfect early on, which is why some of us got suspicious of him. What should have made me stop suspecting him though was him pushing for a no-lynch on day 2, which clearly is very town favored.

Also you were basicly a Radfield light in this game, so if there was no way he should be scum, there should be no way you could be scum. Most scummy thing you did in the game was the halleluja post you made about Radfields last analysis post. And I said in obs QT if Radfield die Dirk is scum because of it. But I changed my mind, so it doesn't really count.
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
April 18 2012 10:58 GMT
#397
Radfield light. That works =)

His analysis post impressed me as a Mafia player. Its was a really good post. But at the same time my scum hands were clapping since he was so wrong =)
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
April 18 2012 11:01 GMT
#398
Aaaaargh can't decide. This scum team! Putting all faith left in Bluelightz may have been a genious move by scumteam. I got to have faith I stay on BL as scum. Or did Dirk lie twice about beeing drunk? No, I stay on BL!


I didn't lie about being drunk btw :D Those post just took execptionally long time to write.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 11:04:04
April 18 2012 11:02 GMT
#399
On April 18 2012 18:32 opisska wrote:
This is why I don't play mafia here (or on the internet, speaking globally). Because a) it is again and again shown how random it is without physically interacting with the people b) it is played with people like Blazinghand who think that this kind of behaviour is good (or even fun). In this game, all what it took for Mafia to win at the end was to basically play for town.

Nevertheless, its fun reading you guys (and I finally succeeded in following a mafia that enede up short enough to keep my attention!)

I disagree; it is not random but the things you have to pay attention to are different than in a real life game. I don't see how you could reach the conclusion. Mafia won because a few townies failed at their behavioural analysis, not due to random chance. Forum mafia is much more interesting, challenging and, indeed, less random because both sides have more time.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 11:12:55
April 18 2012 11:11 GMT
#400
On April 18 2012 19:49 Tunkeg wrote:
This game was won because of good scumplay, and to an extent low activity by town. You might say it is random, and sure there will allways be some randomness, but in the end it came down to scum outplaying town, again.

Don't apologize BL. Yeah, you may be hard to read, but thats part of the game, some players are harder to read. If everyone was easy to figure out this game would be pointless. As long as you try your best to win regardless of alignment don't apologize.

And also for you johnny, don't feel down for beeing wrong. I love how these pro veteran comes in after the game and tell how easy it was to see that Dirkzor was scum. Don't know if their motives is to make you look bad or to make themselves look great. But in hindsight everything is easy, so don't feel bad.

No one said claimed it was easy or claimed that they would always make the correct decision in similar circumstances, just that it was quite possible to identify the remaining mafia correctly based on solid reasoning rather than just pure luck. I'm not talking in hindsight.
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