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Kurumi
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Poland6130 Posts
April 09 2012 13:47 GMT
#6
Dead Space and System Shock.
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Kurumi
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April 09 2012 17:28 GMT
#17
/in
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Kurumi
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April 11 2012 07:24 GMT
#75
I need to /in
Oh well.
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Kurumi
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Poland6130 Posts
April 12 2012 16:02 GMT
#116
/in for the third time
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Kurumi
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Poland6130 Posts
April 12 2012 21:58 GMT
#136
On April 13 2012 06:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
!

I can out for You.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
April 13 2012 08:39 GMT
#226
Jackal hates biomass
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Kurumi
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Poland6130 Posts
April 13 2012 12:06 GMT
#236
Acrofales, mind if I cut your oxygen supply off?
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Kurumi
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Poland6130 Posts
April 13 2012 12:21 GMT
#239
On April 13 2012 21:15 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 21:06 Kurumi wrote:
Acrofales, mind if I cut your oxygen supply off?

No. I'm secretly a plant.

Plants don't talk liar. Unless they're mutated plants we know we need to get rid of.
Since You aren't human, why would I want You alive?
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
April 13 2012 12:27 GMT
#241
On April 13 2012 21:25 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 21:21 Kurumi wrote:
On April 13 2012 21:15 Acrofales wrote:
On April 13 2012 21:06 Kurumi wrote:
Acrofales, mind if I cut your oxygen supply off?

No. I'm secretly a plant.

Plants don't talk liar. Unless they're mutated plants we know we need to get rid of.
Since You aren't human, why would I want You alive?

Pfft. For someone playing in space station mafia you are remarkably lacking in scifi knowledge
[image loading]

Great, You're a lizard, so what? Still, You need to die.
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Kurumi
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Poland6130 Posts
April 13 2012 12:32 GMT
#244
On April 13 2012 21:29 Maverick32x wrote:
Sorry...at work on my phone... Clearly butchered that editing...

Yo... I don't want to sound bad... but stop with the dots, damnit. It makes Your posts look weird.
Ace's thinking right. A good pick is the guy who not only says who he'll lynch, but claims powers in addition.
Is there something like Second Captain, or only the first person wins?
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Kurumi
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Poland6130 Posts
April 13 2012 12:40 GMT
#247
On April 13 2012 21:38 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 21:32 Kurumi wrote:
On April 13 2012 21:29 Maverick32x wrote:
Sorry...at work on my phone... Clearly butchered that editing...

Yo... I don't want to sound bad... but stop with the dots, damnit. It makes Your posts look weird.


Wow. Srs?

And Your point is?
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
April 13 2012 12:48 GMT
#248
Yo Acrofales sorry I need to get rid of layayayayaboot first.
You still dead k?
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
April 13 2012 12:57 GMT
#250
On April 13 2012 21:53 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 21:40 Kurumi wrote:
On April 13 2012 21:38 marvellosity wrote:
On April 13 2012 21:32 Kurumi wrote:
On April 13 2012 21:29 Maverick32x wrote:
Sorry...at work on my phone... Clearly butchered that editing...

Yo... I don't want to sound bad... but stop with the dots, damnit. It makes Your posts look weird.


Wow. Srs?

And Your point is?


Since I started lurking on TL Mafia I've seen some decidedly weird posting from you ^^

How is my posting relevant to the game now? Hey, let's have the "You" discussion all over again!
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Kurumi
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Poland6130 Posts
April 13 2012 13:15 GMT
#252
On April 13 2012 22:01 marvellosity wrote:
People are tetchy this game... must be the gruesome murders.

Please, tell me more, this is so interesting.
not
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Kurumi
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Poland6130 Posts
April 13 2012 13:25 GMT
#256
It's not my fault some guy is posting off-topic and avoiding questions, come on. I agree that this kind of discussion is not needed, but I hoped I actually will get answers.
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Kurumi
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Poland6130 Posts
April 13 2012 13:31 GMT
#258
On April 13 2012 21:40 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 21:38 marvellosity wrote:
On April 13 2012 21:32 Kurumi wrote:
On April 13 2012 21:29 Maverick32x wrote:
Sorry...at work on my phone... Clearly butchered that editing...

Yo... I don't want to sound bad... but stop with the dots, damnit. It makes Your posts look weird.


Wow. Srs?

And Your point is?

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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
April 13 2012 13:31 GMT
#259
EWODP:
The first answer is bullshit. Why would You jump in randomly and just go for "Wow. Srs?" impression?
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
April 13 2012 13:45 GMT
#262
On April 13 2012 22:37 Coagulation wrote:
I say we shoot page 13 out the airlock.

Sandroba is scum and Ace is town, opinions?
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
April 13 2012 13:48 GMT
#264
On April 13 2012 22:46 risk.nuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 22:45 Kurumi wrote:
On April 13 2012 22:37 Coagulation wrote:
I say we shoot page 13 out the airlock.

Sandroba is scum and Ace is town, opinions?

wanna lay down some reasons way or just gonna shout shit? I too can shout shit.

Uh, what? I am clearly missing something there. You're defending sandroba?
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Kurumi
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Poland6130 Posts
April 13 2012 13:59 GMT
#266
On April 13 2012 22:52 risk.nuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 22:48 Kurumi wrote:
On April 13 2012 22:46 risk.nuke wrote:
On April 13 2012 22:45 Kurumi wrote:
On April 13 2012 22:37 Coagulation wrote:
I say we shoot page 13 out the airlock.

Sandroba is scum and Ace is town, opinions?

wanna lay down some reasons way or just gonna shout shit? I too can shout shit.

Uh, what? I am clearly missing something there. You're defending sandroba?

I'm asking you why you think the way you do? You do have reasons right. So do the pro-town thing and share them. I'm interested.

I find it amusing that I asked Coag and You're the person to respond.
1st
People want to lynch Ace for no reason. (some say it's a joke-gone-real)
2nd
He actually says something related and helpful to the game.
3rd
Sandroba has gone the same way like he did in his scum games. Say skype publicly and try to mess in the pm land. He wanted me to claim to him because he somehow knows a mechanics present in the game giving him possibility to break it.
Bullshit.
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Kurumi
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Poland6130 Posts
April 13 2012 14:00 GMT
#267
EWODP:
in one of his
knows a mechanic
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Kurumi
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Poland6130 Posts
April 13 2012 14:18 GMT
#272
On April 13 2012 23:16 Coagulation wrote:
sandroba rolefishing in PM land does look scummy as fuck. He needs to clarify why hes doing it.

I have no idea how you could make a call on ace this early with zero info on him. but if he doesnt end up killed by scum night1 or night2 hes likely scum.


Or he stumbles upon a graveyard while visiting a bar.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
April 13 2012 14:37 GMT
#278
On April 13 2012 23:25 sandroba wrote:
Point me to a game where I told people to claim to me where I was scum. I'm also not bullshitting, I CAN "confirm" some people as I have already.
Also I never put in this much effort as scum. Ever. I've been busy in pm land all night. Yeah, that's right, I'm townie as fuck.

I was talking about posting Your skype and telling people to talk with You.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
April 13 2012 14:51 GMT
#282
On April 13 2012 23:41 sandroba wrote:
I do that every pm game and I was scum in only one of them. The one I was scum I talked to only 2 people mostly and never tried to contact anyone else. If I pm'ed you of all people to try to figure out stuff that should tell you something.

You have found a way to confirm a bunch of players and You're collecting claims thanks to this bullshit reason.
You did not find a way to confirm a bunch of players out of nowhere. You're lying.
You're fishing for roles.
Since when TL Mafia has magic button "confirm town" in every themed PM game, huh?
DON'T CLAIM TO SANDROBA.
Don't claim to ANYBODY, it's DAY ONE. Day two isn't right either. Don't be stupid damn it.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
April 13 2012 15:02 GMT
#288
On April 13 2012 23:59 sandroba wrote:
I'm not lying. I'm not asking for information with nothing in return. I did find a mechanic that can confirm some players. If anyone wants to talk to me about it I can explain in skype.

No, explain it here, now.
What's holding You? Scum being able to confirm Town? Sure!
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
April 13 2012 15:08 GMT
#293
On April 14 2012 00:04 Acrofales wrote:
He's trumping the mechanic. It confirms nothing except some of the roles people claim. I still believe he's town, though.

It smells fishy.
Sometimes in closed setups scum are given couple of roles that Town has. Keep that in mind. Just because one knows about some role does not mean one has it self.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
April 13 2012 15:10 GMT
#295
On April 14 2012 00:09 sandroba wrote:
Let me throw this out there. I have a few claims already. The power roles in this game are most likely unique due to nature of the theme. There are back-up roles. This is a nightmare for mafia if I can "confirm" more people.

Now go slip the entire info somewhere random, that'll be cool right?
This can't possibly turn out positive.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
April 13 2012 15:12 GMT
#297
On April 14 2012 00:11 Maverick32x wrote:
And one person who goes off their day 1 reads is better?

So if they Lynch a townie they can just shrug their shoulders?

A Democratic approach allows us to view everyone's scum hunting ability.. not just the captain..


It's not about scum hunting. It's about taking stances.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
April 13 2012 19:49 GMT
#338
As for now Jackal's my vote. I'll vote for whoever is against sandroba.
Talismania, You might need a shovel.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
April 14 2012 11:32 GMT
#433
On April 14 2012 09:13 layabout wrote:
Having spent a rare day away from the computer due to frequent and annoying _____*

I have had barely any time to read the thread.
after a quick skim and a PM with sandro

Part of me wants to vote GM for being a gentleman, and i would like to know if he intends to explain what he plans to do, and why he should be mayor. Will he try to enforce rules of proper conduct for instance? Will he lynch Kurumi who clearly does not care about catching scum?

The rest of me wants to vote for sandro. If he really is committing all of this time to PM with so many players it should be very difficult for him to do so as scum. So in a sense voting for him is less risky because their is a reduced chance that he could remain alive and looking town if he is scum. He also has better than average early reads and is thus a good candidate by default.

Is anybody else wondering why a town WBG would do this?


+ Show Spoiler [*] +
I am not sure what the term is but i do know that all the lights dim and my PC turns itself off

I guess You're going to be the Ciryandor v2!
1st
You claim You don't have a lot of time to read the thread. Why would I care? Instead of this line it could say something helpful.
2nd
"For being gentleman" - solid reason jubbie. The only one too. You're questioning Gmarsh as captain candidate and soft-pushing me without any proof.
3rd
Then, You go full wishy-washy and say things about sandroba. You say that he can't be scum because
a) He PMs people for a long time (null at best)
b) [Has a magical plan of confirming Town which he doesn't want to share] (another one that You're not posting about, but isn't that an amazing point?)
c) He has "better than average early reads" please, prove it. Why sandroba is better than GMarsh? You're trying to look sandroba better for not much reason, like trying to sway new players opinion on him.

You're scum, layabout.

This post is prime example how not to play scum.

I hope You were good friends with Wheatley and Space Core.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
April 14 2012 11:37 GMT
#434
On April 14 2012 20:30 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2012 20:02 froggynoddy wrote:
sorry, this bit:

If he really is committing all of this time to PM with so many players it should be very difficult for him to do so as scum. So in a sense voting for him is less risky because their is a reduced chance that he could remain alive and looking town if he is scum. He also has better than average early reads and is thus a good candidate by default.


4. You may not vote for yourself. You may not vote for anyone dead or outside the game

Does this apply to all voting or just lynch voting i.e. can you not vote for yourself as captain:

I am saying that he is currently committing a lot of time and effort to the thread and is sharing a lot of thoughts and reads with lots of people. So he must be going through the thread and coming up with these reads. If he is scum he is giving himself plenty of opportunities to slip up. He would have to discuss his scumbuddies and describe why he think they are town, and explain why he suspects players that he knows are not scum. So it is likely that he would end up giving himself or his team mates away. This makes him a preferable candidate to somebody that has not made that commitment.

It was not a town read.

Why would You try to think what Mafia would do? Isn't it easier for Town player to think what OTHER Town player would do?
Basically what You're saying is:
"I think sandro is town.
but I am not sure sandro is town."
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Kurumi
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Poland6130 Posts
April 14 2012 11:45 GMT
#435
EWODP:
"but I am not sure I think sandro is town"
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Kurumi
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Poland6130 Posts
April 14 2012 12:40 GMT
#437
On April 14 2012 21:24 sandroba wrote:
@Kurumi can you quit your nonsense? Can you explain why the fuck do you think I'm scum? Why do you think Ace is town?
You never bothered even trying to ask me anything when I tried to communicate with you in pms, you just trolled me and you jumped to the conclusion I was lying without a second thought and no effort to understand what I was saying.

CHAINSAW DEFENSE
WRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
April 14 2012 12:55 GMT
#440
Your response is nothing more than just attacking me, not the argument I am making.
This is not how the game works. You just agreed with my points, thanks.
I find it amazing that after I made a short post attacking layabout You're back together with sandroba.
Mind posting logs with You two talking?
You might omit all the plan chit-chat because somehow it's so magical that it can't be seen by others, because as I said
MAFIA CONFIRMING TOWN, OMG!
Prove that You're talking in PMs. Just because You say "sandroba made me confident he is town in pms" (D1, mind You) does not say anything to us.
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Kurumi
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Poland6130 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-14 21:40:02
April 14 2012 13:05 GMT
#443
On April 14 2012 21:24 sandroba wrote:
@Kurumi can you quit your nonsense? Can you explain why the fuck do you think I'm scum? Why do you think Ace is town?
You never bothered even trying to ask me anything when I tried to communicate with you in pms, you just trolled me and you jumped to the conclusion I was lying without a second thought and no effort to understand what I was saying.

You refused to explain Your plan in the thread. I don't believe in breaking the setup by one guy having all the roleclaims, because that's what I know now. Things I do in PM land are things I do because I want. Want some logs? 3/4 are trolling and there are only two people I actually did not troll.
+ Show Spoiler [Acrofales convo] +
He wants to talk to everybody, announces his skype publicly and shit
I am not into PMs bro
He asked me to claim and I did not. stupid black and yellow shit
so basically you're saying that he claimed the same role you have, ok fine good stuff okay tough shit
anything else
also don't claim just because. D1 claiming is fucking retarded, D2 is borderline retarded and D3 claiming is maybe semi okay if you know like for 99% about someone he's town
unless you're on a horse, then just disregard this advice and keep rollin them biomass bitches into the ground with lies

Original Message From Acrofales:
Okay. He roleclaimed to me and I know the claim is a town role. Now he could've gotten the role from another townie, but somewhere he had to start. It only hit me afterwards that his claim does not make him town auto-town.

Can you give me some more information? I've never played a PM game with sandro before, so his meta is unreadable to me.


Original Message From Kurumi:
Leaning scum because he started this game the same way he does his scum pm ones

Original Message From Acrofales:
You think he's town or scum?

Original Message From Kurumi:
yeah I talked to sandro so what

Original Message From Acrofales:
You said buttseks in D2... so I'll pass on your ass today. Now. Why you avoiding my question?

Original Message From Kurumi:
PM games tend to have lower activity and suprise buttsex action starting D2.
Now grab my ass

Original Message From Acrofales:
No. I am just trying to figure out this PM game. You talked to sandroba yet?

I also hate TL's PM system, which is why skype. I accept googletalk or msn as well.

Original Message From Kurumi:
no
skype sucks
Are You scared?

Original Message From Acrofales:

Mind adding me on skype?


+ Show Spoiler [sandroba convo] +

Original Message From sandroba:
I think you are cute <3
tell me your secrets

Show nested quote +
Original Message From Kurumi:
I am best cowboy put there cow fuck it now

Original Message From sandroba:
Sup bro. As usual I'm trying to get people to claim to me. I found a way to confirm a bunch of players using a mechanic present in some pms. Care to claim?

Original Message From Kurumi:
Chezinu is watching

+ Show Spoiler [wherebugsgo convo] +

Shitty love story and shit shitty yo i tell ya he is good tho

Original Message From wherebugsgo:
why jackal

Hide nested quote -
Original Message From Kurumi:
Bugger i vote jackal good guy yo

Original Message From wherebugsgo:
I like you. who are you going to vote for captain?

Original Message From Kurumi:
I like trains no he not being my partner bugger bigger big

Original Message From wherebugsgo:
are you his scumbuddy kurumi

Original Message From Kurumi:
Mimimimimi mimimi mimimi

+ Show Spoiler [Ace convo] +

Original Message From Ace:
he's still fishing for roles? lulz

Show nested quote +
Original Message From Kurumi:
Sandroba said that he "usually ask people to claim" D1, which I believe is bullshit (at least there's no motivation for town to collect claims D1)
He's obviously fishing for claims, hints to learn something about the setup. I understand this information is good for every side, but Mafia gains a lot more from knowing the roles present than Town, even when made public, this is the same thing as publicly claiming for no reason really fast.
[redacted]

I have two more or something but I don't care
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
April 14 2012 13:14 GMT
#446
On April 14 2012 22:12 Acrofales wrote:
Mind not posting my skype info in the thread :S I get enough spam as is, thank you. Other than that, it's all fine.
Doc, can you please edit out my skype info in Kurumi's post? Thanks

Sorry, did not think about this. If Doc allows me to edit out my post I will.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
April 14 2012 13:27 GMT
#447
Remember this post?
On April 14 2012 19:47 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2012 19:26 froggynoddy wrote:
On April 14 2012 09:13 layabout wrote:
Having spent a rare day away from the computer due to frequent and annoying _____*

I have had barely any time to read the thread.
after a quick skim and a PM with sandro

Part of me wants to vote GM for being a gentleman, and i would like to know if he intends to explain what he plans to do, and why he should be mayor. Will he try to enforce rules of proper conduct for instance? Will he lynch Kurumi who clearly does not care about catching scum?

The rest of me wants to vote for sandro. If he really is committing all of this time to PM with so many players it should be very difficult for him to do so as scum. So in a sense voting for him is less risky because their is a reduced chance that he could remain alive and looking town if he is scum. He also has better than average early reads and is thus a good candidate by default.

Is anybody else wondering why a town WBG would do this?


+ Show Spoiler [*] +
I am not sure what the term is but i do know that all the lights dim and my PC turns itself off


I'm really sorry if I'm being obtuse but can you explain to me the logic in your town read here?

Which town read?

Also for somebody that seems to value transparency l10f has shared very little.

That's finger pointing. You've done this twice. To me and l10f.
There's no contradiction in my post. Nobody asked You why You were away. Nobody cared. Then, why the hell would You post that You were busy?
My early-game posts are early-game posts. Don't expect them to be too good. That goes for pretty much everybody. You can't have a fully fleshed out case 10 hours into the game, come on. The days are 48h for a reason (besides timezones)
You posted a post full of fluff and I called You out on it.
You also tried to lower opinion of GMarsh and make look sandroba better, my question is: WHY?
You weren't so "confident" about sandroba then. You're lying. You don't even know what You've thought some time ago, but that's cool. When I am scum I have the same problems. Then I just usually lurk or just post a lot without attacking anybody, because it's easy!
You support some shady D1 all-claim-to-one-guy plan with no reasoning. You just think sandroba is Town because he cares.
I WOULD CARE TOO IF PEOPLE STARTED CLAIMING TO ME DAY ONE LOL
Ace's looking Town because he's making all the good observations so far. Sandroba is scum because no town would try to get all the claims day 1 for no reason for the sake of "confirming them by a broken mechanic"
Also, did You know I am Obama himself? Trust me, that's as true as Sandroba's intentions!
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April 14 2012 13:50 GMT
#454
I just hate layabout and him being scum only makes things worse
Ace had a couple of posts already which are mostly pure pointing out things we could've missed out.
I said already I am going to vote the person against sandroba, so it'll probably be GM. I'd like someone like talismania as Captain but he/she doesn't seem to be interested in being one.
GMarsh although said sandro is his best Town read. Most of his points are crucial too, like one about how democratic voting for D1 Lynch is bad. His pressure on Zentor is good too.
Couple of things about Ace:
1st People wanted/want him lynched for no reason. I see no reason for the scum team to spout such nonsense on their team mate. The other way for this is that no scum ever voiced opinion on this matter, which might be possible.
2nd He's making good points, like saving good players instead of lynching them as fast as You can just because they're good.
It's not like I am 100% Ace is town. I just don't think he would pick up the lost things if he was scum. Disinformation's good for Mafia.
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April 14 2012 14:14 GMT
#455
So, what's happening now?
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April 14 2012 14:18 GMT
#458
On April 14 2012 23:15 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2012 23:14 Kurumi wrote:
So, what's happening now?

People are PM'ing me. How bout you?

Silence, pretty worried that scumteam waits for some vet to get some kind of case rolling on whoever.
Do You think Captain will be something more than usual bodyguard stuff?
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April 14 2012 14:24 GMT
#460
On April 14 2012 23:22 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2012 23:18 Kurumi wrote:
On April 14 2012 23:15 Acrofales wrote:
On April 14 2012 23:14 Kurumi wrote:
So, what's happening now?

People are PM'ing me. How bout you?

Silence, pretty worried that scumteam waits for some vet to get some kind of case rolling on whoever.
Do You think Captain will be something more than usual bodyguard stuff?

I'm hoping captain gets the actual number of "threats", but anything beyond "he gets to decide the first lynch" is all speculation about game mechanics and extremely pointless.

Why you worried about scum making cases? You easily convinced?

Yeah, since this is a 30 man themed game scumteam will probably be 4-6 depending on 3rd party present. I actually think that such an ability would be pretty good (maybe jailing instead? makes sense)
I am worried because of huge amount of newbies and they might get easily convinced. It usually plays out that vets are from US (not many good/vets in EU).
We'll see. Just stay sharp.
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April 14 2012 14:34 GMT
#461
In case You did not get what I am saying:
Neither sandroba or GMarsh have solid candidate for lynching. If one of them is scum(which I believe that's the case) someone will probably go "support" lynching candidate. This way, their mate gets elected and people aren't as mad because it was "democratic" and such.
Captain should lynch his strongest scum read. If he gets weak and supports the new candidate for no strong reason I will be extremely suspicious
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April 14 2012 14:49 GMT
#464
Acrofales, as I told You PM games tend to be pretty silent, which is freaking bad in my opinion. After You're dead there's noone to confirm convos You had.
I fear that we're going to have a lot of suprise voting and cases in something like 4-8 hours, when US comes back and we won't have time to sort it out.
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April 14 2012 18:15 GMT
#504
On April 15 2012 03:13 Ace wrote:
I find it very hard to believe that 3 people within 5 minutes all decided to make a Mr.Zentor is Scum post. PM Land must be going wild right now.

On April 14 2012 23:24 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2012 23:22 Acrofales wrote:
On April 14 2012 23:18 Kurumi wrote:
On April 14 2012 23:15 Acrofales wrote:
On April 14 2012 23:14 Kurumi wrote:
So, what's happening now?

People are PM'ing me. How bout you?

Silence, pretty worried that scumteam waits for some vet to get some kind of case rolling on whoever.
Do You think Captain will be something more than usual bodyguard stuff?

I'm hoping captain gets the actual number of "threats", but anything beyond "he gets to decide the first lynch" is all speculation about game mechanics and extremely pointless.

Why you worried about scum making cases? You easily convinced?

Yeah, since this is a 30 man themed game scumteam will probably be 4-6 depending on 3rd party present. I actually think that such an ability would be pretty good (maybe jailing instead? makes sense)
I am worried because of huge amount of newbies and they might get easily convinced. It usually plays out that vets are from US (not many good/vets in EU).
We'll see. Just stay sharp.

I AM ORACLE
That role sucked.
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April 14 2012 18:20 GMT
#506
BTW I just moved my vote on Talismania.
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April 14 2012 18:33 GMT
#514
On April 15 2012 03:31 Ace wrote:
Anyway we shouldn't be lynching people that are actually active at the moment. Get rid of the people not participating so far. I don't know how everyone is getting such good scum reads in such a short amount of time, but let's not kill off the people that are posting so quickly.

This is a soft-defense of MrZentor. The thing is, it's a good idea for both Town and Scum to defend him. I don't see anything wrong with Zentor besides him losing some steam after GMarsh pressured him and his cryptic behaviour about chaoser.
I agree that people who are speaking are not as good targets as people borderline lurking.
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April 14 2012 18:36 GMT
#517
On April 15 2012 03:35 chaoser wrote:
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On April 15 2012 03:33 Kurumi wrote:
On April 15 2012 03:31 Ace wrote:
Anyway we shouldn't be lynching people that are actually active at the moment. Get rid of the people not participating so far. I don't know how everyone is getting such good scum reads in such a short amount of time, but let's not kill off the people that are posting so quickly.

This is a soft-defense of MrZentor. The thing is, it's a good idea for both Town and Scum to defend him. I don't see anything wrong with Zentor besides him losing some steam after GMarsh pressured him and his cryptic behaviour about chaoser.
I agree that people who are speaking are not as good targets as people borderline lurking.


isn't this also a soft defense?

It is! I actually think that Zentor should not hang D1.
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April 14 2012 18:42 GMT
#524
On April 15 2012 03:37 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 03:36 Kurumi wrote:
On April 15 2012 03:35 chaoser wrote:
On April 15 2012 03:33 Kurumi wrote:
On April 15 2012 03:31 Ace wrote:
Anyway we shouldn't be lynching people that are actually active at the moment. Get rid of the people not participating so far. I don't know how everyone is getting such good scum reads in such a short amount of time, but let's not kill off the people that are posting so quickly.

This is a soft-defense of MrZentor. The thing is, it's a good idea for both Town and Scum to defend him. I don't see anything wrong with Zentor besides him losing some steam after GMarsh pressured him and his cryptic behaviour about chaoser.
I agree that people who are speaking are not as good targets as people borderline lurking.


isn't this also a soft defense?

It is! I actually think that Zentor should not hang D1.


Why shouldn't he? who would you rather be hanged?

He nailed it himself
Anybody in Death Factory 2 should know how bad my scumplay is. Why would the scum choose me to run, especially considering there are ~6 of them? They should have at least one convincing Vet in there, whom everybody will blindly trust.

Besides nothing struck me so much from him to call him scum.
I'd rather see layabout hang. He's in this magical range of not-so-active and not-so-inactive. He plays similar to his scum meta and does not jump into scumhunting until easy targets show up. He's mostly overly aggressive as Town.
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April 14 2012 18:44 GMT
#525
As for froggynoddy case:
First point can also be used against layabout.
The second point can ALSO be used against him.
He sows distrust against GMarsh and tries to boost Sandroba.
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April 15 2012 01:02 GMT
#564
Why was the guy who voted for captain git lynched by captain?
Now I just need to fall asleep.
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April 15 2012 13:21 GMT
#609
Black and yellow is some shitty song by a shitty artist.
MANCJ is not encrypted in Ceasar's.
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April 15 2012 14:14 GMT
#611
On April 15 2012 22:46 chaoser wrote:
Wonder if GM is going to come in today. Doubtful.

I am happy that there's someone who has same concerns as me.
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April 15 2012 19:10 GMT
#633
On April 16 2012 04:03 layabout wrote:
Having scratched the word "Null" into the side of his spacekennel for the 20th time layabout pawsed. He let out a growl which one can only shall assume was a curse along the lines of

"Dammit Wherebugsgo, it's difficult to type without hands!".

He turned his head and sniffed at the cold, damp night air. He detected not a scent, not even the stench of that mongrel VisceraEyes. Truly it was difficult to hunt in the empty corridors of the Antioch.

He let out a howl. One can only assume it meant something along the lines of

"Time to go take a dump in Kurumi's quarters"





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On April 15 2012 10:41 l10f wrote:
Letters have nothing to do with alignment, so let's not discuss them for now.

GMarshal gave a pretty good warning that he would lynch Froggy if he was elected, and I voted him because I ageed with his read.
+ Show Spoiler +

On April 15 2012 02:54 GMarshal wrote:
froggynoddy This guy has the strongest case against him tight now, he has a couple tell tale signs that point him out as newbie scum



On April 15 2012 03:27 GMarshal wrote:
I like how my case on froggynoddy got buried in Zentor cases.


MrZentor definietly posts like a scum but we shouldn't focus on him too much and lose sight of other possible scums. And definitely not worth using a vig on him just yet. He ran for captain position, and since the scum team probably put out at most one candidate for captaincy, and zentor didn't get much support at all, it's likely that he's town.

Also MrZentor posts a lot and he gets people to post, so I'd rather try to make people who don't post much like Errandor and Senjai post what they think.




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MrZentor definietly posts like a scum but we shouldn't focus on him too much and lose sight of other possible scums

fuck you
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April 16 2012 05:11 GMT
#677
Bye Acrofales . Good guys finish first this time ;u; Grush looks like some kind of blue snipe , yes ? Layabout to probably make me look bad or some slip in pm land , which might have happened to Grush too. Anyway good shot on the writer, now let me think about the lynch.
11 claims , wow. Your plan is to collect role names. And a vigilante claimed to You, amazing. During first cycle. As good as shooting medics n1.
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April 16 2012 06:37 GMT
#681
I can claim role name right? Just nothing else? I have a post ready.
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April 16 2012 12:27 GMT
#693
I claimed to sandroba. I am Station Researcher. I had an item but I gave it to talismania.
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April 16 2012 14:11 GMT
#696
On April 16 2012 21:59 marvellosity wrote:
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On April 16 2012 21:27 Kurumi wrote:
I claimed to sandroba. I am Station Researcher. I had an item but I gave it to talismania.


What made you change your mind about claiming?

Because I am nothing important and it's a PM game so basically people play worse than usual because they don't post as much.
You sent me Your skype risk.nuke, whatever?
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April 16 2012 21:51 GMT
#733
Well Ace, You said nothing new we couldn't think about.
Why?
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April 16 2012 22:13 GMT
#738
Zentor, a flipped scum slipped about You being scum. Anything to add?
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April 16 2012 22:28 GMT
#743
On April 16 2012 04:03 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 10:41 l10f wrote:
Letters have nothing to do with alignment, so let's not discuss them for now.

GMarshal gave a pretty good warning that he would lynch Froggy if he was elected, and I voted him because I ageed with his read.
+ Show Spoiler +

On April 15 2012 02:54 GMarshal wrote:
froggynoddy This guy has the strongest case against him tight now, he has a couple tell tale signs that point him out as newbie scum



On April 15 2012 03:27 GMarshal wrote:
I like how my case on froggynoddy got buried in Zentor cases.


MrZentor definietly posts like a scum but we shouldn't focus on him too much and lose sight of other possible scums. And definitely not worth using a vig on him just yet. He ran for captain position, and since the scum team probably put out at most one candidate for captaincy, and zentor didn't get much support at all, it's likely that he's town.

Also MrZentor posts a lot and he gets people to post, so I'd rather try to make people who don't post much like Errandor and Senjai post what they think.



Just look at this post by confirmed Town. Doesn't it look like a scum slip?
Show nested quote +
MrZentor definietly posts like a scum but we shouldn't focus on him too much and lose sight of other possible scums

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April 16 2012 22:29 GMT
#744
On April 16 2012 04:03 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 10:41 l10f wrote:
Letters have nothing to do with alignment, so let's not discuss them for now.

GMarshal gave a pretty good warning that he would lynch Froggy if he was elected, and I voted him because I ageed with his read.

On April 15 2012 02:54 GMarshal wrote:
froggynoddy This guy has the strongest case against him tight now, he has a couple tell tale signs that point him out as newbie scum



On April 15 2012 03:27 GMarshal wrote:
I like how my case on froggynoddy got buried in Zentor cases.


MrZentor definietly posts like a scum but we shouldn't focus on him too much and lose sight of other possible scums. And definitely not worth using a vig on him just yet. He ran for captain position, and since the scum team probably put out at most one candidate for captaincy, and zentor didn't get much support at all, it's likely that he's town.

Also MrZentor posts a lot and he gets people to post, so I'd rather try to make people who don't post much like Errandor and Senjai post what they think.




Show nested quote +
MrZentor definietly posts like a scum but we shouldn't focus on him too much and lose sight of other possible scums


Just look at this post by confirmed Town. Doesn't it look like a scum slip by l10f? Hmm?
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April 16 2012 22:32 GMT
#747
On April 17 2012 07:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ouch that's gotta sting Zentor - Kurumi nice catch.

Who are your partners Zentor?

Not mine. Layabout's.
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April 16 2012 22:39 GMT
#752
On April 17 2012 07:36 MrZentor wrote:
Of course mafia are going to leave hints on who their "scumbuddies" are. They want to do as much damage as possible, and breadcrumbing that a townsperson is their scumbuddy is a great way to cause havoc and perhaps a mislynch after their death.

-.-

This is probably the first time I've heard about this tactic.
The entire post by l10f is like he KNOWS You're scum and he KNOWS You shouldn't die. He flipped scum. He defended You. HARD. He had no thread presence. Like, maybe even NEGATIVE thread presence. Since when lurkers come back to defend semi-scummy person? By the way, vig Node.
Just kidding.
Maybe not.
NODE COME BACK.
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April 16 2012 22:41 GMT
#755
On April 17 2012 07:39 wherebugsgo wrote:
let's kill this guy

##vote mrzentor

also VE is a bastard for not having skype at work

I was debating to either call You out or Node.
Why so lurky?
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April 16 2012 22:45 GMT
#759
On April 17 2012 07:44 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 07:41 Kurumi wrote:
On April 17 2012 07:39 wherebugsgo wrote:
let's kill this guy

##vote mrzentor

also VE is a bastard for not having skype at work

I was debating to either call You out or Node.
Why so lurky?


wherebugsgo comes up to Kurumi, chest thrust outward.

"Come join me in the video conferencing room, 08:00 station time, you ravishing Polish hottie."

Kurumi winks at the agent, flashing her curves as she walks away, anticipating the fireworks that would commence that night.


Oh wow.
By the way.

On April 13 2012 09:51 wherebugsgo wrote:
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On April 13 2012 09:50 MrZentor wrote:
This is my first time playing a PM game.

I'm kind of scared of communication that I can't see.(Besides the mafia QT)


you can see the mafia QT?

I clicked Your filter and sup
MrZentor, sup?
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April 17 2012 20:59 GMT
#878
Its five not two. Anyway, the item name inconsistency might be solved by host trying to save the setup from being broken. Also guys. Lets go with the words of another confirmed town Ace. We should not lynch active players. I agree with Jackal that pm games tend to suck because people post a lot less in the thread and many vets say that town tends to rely too much on blues and confirming people. Remember , the flip confirms someone. I am against Jackal lynch fully. I am more than happy to lynch someone scummy lurking. As for Zentor my gut still says town but the things shown are at least weird . Although I have hard time reading the thread because I dont sleep much or well at all so I get tired fast and am really weak after school.
About Node : check his pregame posts. Check his in game posts. Did he just get lazy?
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April 17 2012 21:22 GMT
#882
On April 18 2012 06:06 risk.nuke wrote:
How is jackal active? He doesn't scumhunt, have basicly no scumreads and as far as I know he haven't talked to anyone exept for gm and sandroba in pm's.

1. Kurumi do you think we should kill all the lurking newbies who is likely town before we start scumhunting?
2. And how is jackals filter better then theirs?

It is Jackal damnit. I dont say Jackal has done excellent scumhunting so far because he had done little to none, but I dont see how killing a guy who is around benefits us when we have people like Node talking how good town they want to play this game and the game starts and he goes lurky as hell. Sinani has meta of being lurky, just like damn Kenpachi and we cant do much. There are people who certainly know how to play but are lurking. Wbg is not as active as usual too. The item thing looks indeed pretty strong , although unless sandroba himself does not posses such an item then he cant be sure who is lying(if someone is) I just think we are at a similar situation like with Ace. We might be pulling the trigger too quickly. Jackal, have You lied to sandroba about Your item?
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April 17 2012 21:33 GMT
#883
I need to sleep guys. See You later. We have too many lurkers, if something goes wrong we are going to fail at something like lylo.
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April 18 2012 05:43 GMT
#928
Bollocks . Sorry guys. I had my doubts . Guess You were right after all. By the way, I guess Talismania claimed the item I gave him.
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April 18 2012 16:45 GMT
#933
+ Show Spoiler +
Original Message From Jackal58:
I don't think GMarshall and Sandroba are both scum. One of them most likely and I'd have to lean on Gmarshall atm.
Chaoser is an excellent scum player. He's actually the scariest one to me in the game if he rolled red.
I'll wait a bit before I call him anything.
Ace hasn't made any crazy claims yet so I'm leaning town on him.
Coag I think is town but I haven't had a chance to talk to him in PM land yet. If he ignores me in IRC or PMs he's scum.

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Original Message From Kurumi:
That reminds me I totally ignored the presence of wbg in the thread. Well, I killed him in Arkham for threatening to kill me and being scum. Poor guy, being the scum dt vet.
As for now my scum list would go like
sandroba
layabout
gmarshal

Town
talismania - transparent, sounds experienced, made good calls
acrofales - there's like no single scummy thing about him
Weak town reads
chaoser - his newest observations make me happy.
mrzentor - bad/misunderstood town
maybe Ace/Coag - they're too neutral though. maybe 3rds?
and You because BFF <3

I just think it's freaking weird for people like Node, who wanted to make this game his one of best, prplhz and wbg to make no effort whatsoever. Of course, it might be the cursed PM game which I mostly hate because Town usually thinks that PM land is Thread v2 and everything's fine and they don't need to post their thoughts in the thread >_>

Original Message From Jackal58:
I thought I did? If not sorry.
Ya I was out of town all of yesterday visiting old friends.
I hate making reads on WBG because I always want to kill him anyways but he's scum. He's being too nice. Sounds stupid but he doesn't call others morons and idiots when he's scum. And he has a distinct lack of calling others morons and idiots in this game.

Original Message From Kurumi:
Why haven't You responded to my PM at the start of the game?
Are You finally gathering some steam in this game?

To have a bigger picture.
Node is scum.
He wanted to make this game his comeback. If he is town, then it is not a comeback.
As scum either, but should we care then?
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April 19 2012 05:33 GMT
#1033
On April 19 2012 11:35 MrZentor wrote:
Kurumi spreads doubt about if Sand is town.
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On April 13 2012 22:59 Kurumi wrote:
On April 13 2012 22:52 risk.nuke wrote:
On April 13 2012 22:48 Kurumi wrote:
On April 13 2012 22:46 risk.nuke wrote:
On April 13 2012 22:45 Kurumi wrote:
On April 13 2012 22:37 Coagulation wrote:
I say we shoot page 13 out the airlock.

Sandroba is scum and Ace is town, opinions?

wanna lay down some reasons way or just gonna shout shit? I too can shout shit.

Uh, what? I am clearly missing something there. You're defending sandroba?

I'm asking you why you think the way you do? You do have reasons right. So do the pro-town thing and share them. I'm interested.

I find it amusing that I asked Coag and You're the person to respond.
1st
People want to lynch Ace for no reason. (some say it's a joke-gone-real)
2nd
He actually says something related and helpful to the game.
3rd
Sandroba has gone the same way like he did in his scum games. Say skype publicly and try to mess in the pm land. He wanted me to claim to him because he somehow knows a mechanics present in the game giving him possibility to break it.
Bullshit.


His excuse for voting Jackal as captain is that he wants somebody against Sand.
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On April 14 2012 04:49 Kurumi wrote:
As for now Jackal's my vote. I'll vote for whoever is against sandroba.
Talismania, You might need a shovel.


He defends l10f.
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On April 14 2012 22:27 Kurumi wrote:
Remember this post?
On April 14 2012 19:47 layabout wrote:
On April 14 2012 19:26 froggynoddy wrote:
On April 14 2012 09:13 layabout wrote:
Having spent a rare day away from the computer due to frequent and annoying _____*

I have had barely any time to read the thread.
after a quick skim and a PM with sandro

Part of me wants to vote GM for being a gentleman, and i would like to know if he intends to explain what he plans to do, and why he should be mayor. Will he try to enforce rules of proper conduct for instance? Will he lynch Kurumi who clearly does not care about catching scum?

The rest of me wants to vote for sandro. If he really is committing all of this time to PM with so many players it should be very difficult for him to do so as scum. So in a sense voting for him is less risky because their is a reduced chance that he could remain alive and looking town if he is scum. He also has better than average early reads and is thus a good candidate by default.

Is anybody else wondering why a town WBG would do this?


+ Show Spoiler [*] +
I am not sure what the term is but i do know that all the lights dim and my PC turns itself off


I'm really sorry if I'm being obtuse but can you explain to me the logic in your town read here?

Which town read?

Also for somebody that seems to value transparency l10f has shared very little.

That's finger pointing. You've done this twice. To me and l10f.
There's no contradiction in my post. Nobody asked You why You were away. Nobody cared. Then, why the hell would You post that You were busy?
My early-game posts are early-game posts. Don't expect them to be too good. That goes for pretty much everybody. You can't have a fully fleshed out case 10 hours into the game, come on. The days are 48h for a reason (besides timezones)
You posted a post full of fluff and I called You out on it.
You also tried to lower opinion of GMarsh and make look sandroba better, my question is: WHY?
You weren't so "confident" about sandroba then. You're lying. You don't even know what You've thought some time ago, but that's cool. When I am scum I have the same problems. Then I just usually lurk or just post a lot without attacking anybody, because it's easy!
You support some shady D1 all-claim-to-one-guy plan with no reasoning. You just think sandroba is Town because he cares.
I WOULD CARE TOO IF PEOPLE STARTED CLAIMING TO ME DAY ONE LOL
Ace's looking Town because he's making all the good observations so far. Sandroba is scum because no town would try to get all the claims day 1 for no reason for the sake of "confirming them by a broken mechanic"
Also, did You know I am Obama himself? Trust me, that's as true as Sandroba's intentions!


He doesn't want responsibility for the Zentor bandwagon, because he knows it will end in a mislynched townie.
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On April 17 2012 07:32 Kurumi wrote:
On April 17 2012 07:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ouch that's gotta sting Zentor - Kurumi nice catch.

Who are your partners Zentor?

Not mine. Layabout's.


He defends Jackal hard.
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On April 18 2012 05:59 Kurumi wrote:
Its five not two. Anyway, the item name inconsistency might be solved by host trying to save the setup from being broken. Also guys. Lets go with the words of another confirmed town Ace. We should not lynch active players. I agree with Jackal that pm games tend to suck because people post a lot less in the thread and many vets say that town tends to rely too much on blues and confirming people. Remember , the flip confirms someone. I am against Jackal lynch fully. I am more than happy to lynch someone scummy lurking. As for Zentor my gut still says town but the things shown are at least weird . Although I have hard time reading the thread because I dont sleep much or well at all so I get tired fast and am really weak after school.
About Node : check his pregame posts. Check his in game posts. Did he just get lazy?
On phone so cant quote.

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On April 18 2012 06:22 Kurumi wrote:
On April 18 2012 06:06 risk.nuke wrote:
How is jackal active? He doesn't scumhunt, have basicly no scumreads and as far as I know he haven't talked to anyone exept for gm and sandroba in pm's.

1. Kurumi do you think we should kill all the lurking newbies who is likely town before we start scumhunting?
2. And how is jackals filter better then theirs?

It is Jackal damnit. I dont say Jackal has done excellent scumhunting so far because he had done little to none, but I dont see how killing a guy who is around benefits us when we have people like Node talking how good town they want to play this game and the game starts and he goes lurky as hell. Sinani has meta of being lurky, just like damn Kenpachi and we cant do much. There are people who certainly know how to play but are lurking. Wbg is not as active as usual too. The item thing looks indeed pretty strong , although unless sandroba himself does not posses such an item then he cant be sure who is lying(if someone is) I just think we are at a similar situation like with Ace. We might be pulling the trigger too quickly. Jackal, have You lied to sandroba about Your item?


Kurumi votes for Jackal as Captain first.
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On April 13 2012 17:39 Kurumi wrote:
##vote Jackal58


The bandwagon doesn't pick up, so he wastes his vote for Talismania.
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 03:19 Kurumi wrote:
##unvote Jackal58
##vote Talismania


He also votes for me as a lynch and never switches to the alien overlord.
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 07:39 Kurumi wrote:
##vote MrZentor


In summary, he defends two people we know are scum, l10f and Jackal; attacks somebody who we know to be pro town, sandroba, and tries to start a bandwagon lynch against me without taking responsibility!! I'm wondering why nobody has seen this yet.

Just sayin'.

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Poland6130 Posts
April 19 2012 05:55 GMT
#1036
On April 19 2012 11:35 MrZentor wrote:
Kurumi spreads doubt about if Sand is town.
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On April 13 2012 22:59 Kurumi wrote:
On April 13 2012 22:52 risk.nuke wrote:
On April 13 2012 22:48 Kurumi wrote:
On April 13 2012 22:46 risk.nuke wrote:
On April 13 2012 22:45 Kurumi wrote:
On April 13 2012 22:37 Coagulation wrote:
I say we shoot page 13 out the airlock.

Sandroba is scum and Ace is town, opinions?

wanna lay down some reasons way or just gonna shout shit? I too can shout shit.

Uh, what? I am clearly missing something there. You're defending sandroba?

I'm asking you why you think the way you do? You do have reasons right. So do the pro-town thing and share them. I'm interested.

I find it amusing that I asked Coag and You're the person to respond.
1st
People want to lynch Ace for no reason. (some say it's a joke-gone-real)
2nd
He actually says something related and helpful to the game.
3rd
Sandroba has gone the same way like he did in his scum games. Say skype publicly and try to mess in the pm land. He wanted me to claim to him because he somehow knows a mechanics present in the game giving him possibility to break it.
Bullshit.


His excuse for voting Jackal as captain is that he wants somebody against Sand.
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On April 14 2012 04:49 Kurumi wrote:
As for now Jackal's my vote. I'll vote for whoever is against sandroba.
Talismania, You might need a shovel.


He defends l10f.
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On April 14 2012 22:27 Kurumi wrote:
Remember this post?
On April 14 2012 19:47 layabout wrote:
On April 14 2012 19:26 froggynoddy wrote:
On April 14 2012 09:13 layabout wrote:
Having spent a rare day away from the computer due to frequent and annoying _____*

I have had barely any time to read the thread.
after a quick skim and a PM with sandro

Part of me wants to vote GM for being a gentleman, and i would like to know if he intends to explain what he plans to do, and why he should be mayor. Will he try to enforce rules of proper conduct for instance? Will he lynch Kurumi who clearly does not care about catching scum?

The rest of me wants to vote for sandro. If he really is committing all of this time to PM with so many players it should be very difficult for him to do so as scum. So in a sense voting for him is less risky because their is a reduced chance that he could remain alive and looking town if he is scum. He also has better than average early reads and is thus a good candidate by default.

Is anybody else wondering why a town WBG would do this?


+ Show Spoiler [*] +
I am not sure what the term is but i do know that all the lights dim and my PC turns itself off


I'm really sorry if I'm being obtuse but can you explain to me the logic in your town read here?

Which town read?

Also for somebody that seems to value transparency l10f has shared very little.

That's finger pointing. You've done this twice. To me and l10f.
There's no contradiction in my post. Nobody asked You why You were away. Nobody cared. Then, why the hell would You post that You were busy?
My early-game posts are early-game posts. Don't expect them to be too good. That goes for pretty much everybody. You can't have a fully fleshed out case 10 hours into the game, come on. The days are 48h for a reason (besides timezones)
You posted a post full of fluff and I called You out on it.
You also tried to lower opinion of GMarsh and make look sandroba better, my question is: WHY?
You weren't so "confident" about sandroba then. You're lying. You don't even know what You've thought some time ago, but that's cool. When I am scum I have the same problems. Then I just usually lurk or just post a lot without attacking anybody, because it's easy!
You support some shady D1 all-claim-to-one-guy plan with no reasoning. You just think sandroba is Town because he cares.
I WOULD CARE TOO IF PEOPLE STARTED CLAIMING TO ME DAY ONE LOL
Ace's looking Town because he's making all the good observations so far. Sandroba is scum because no town would try to get all the claims day 1 for no reason for the sake of "confirming them by a broken mechanic"
Also, did You know I am Obama himself? Trust me, that's as true as Sandroba's intentions!


He doesn't want responsibility for the Zentor bandwagon, because he knows it will end in a mislynched townie.
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 07:32 Kurumi wrote:
On April 17 2012 07:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ouch that's gotta sting Zentor - Kurumi nice catch.

Who are your partners Zentor?

Not mine. Layabout's.


He defends Jackal hard.
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 05:59 Kurumi wrote:
Its five not two. Anyway, the item name inconsistency might be solved by host trying to save the setup from being broken. Also guys. Lets go with the words of another confirmed town Ace. We should not lynch active players. I agree with Jackal that pm games tend to suck because people post a lot less in the thread and many vets say that town tends to rely too much on blues and confirming people. Remember , the flip confirms someone. I am against Jackal lynch fully. I am more than happy to lynch someone scummy lurking. As for Zentor my gut still says town but the things shown are at least weird . Although I have hard time reading the thread because I dont sleep much or well at all so I get tired fast and am really weak after school.
About Node : check his pregame posts. Check his in game posts. Did he just get lazy?
On phone so cant quote.

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On April 18 2012 06:22 Kurumi wrote:
On April 18 2012 06:06 risk.nuke wrote:
How is jackal active? He doesn't scumhunt, have basicly no scumreads and as far as I know he haven't talked to anyone exept for gm and sandroba in pm's.

1. Kurumi do you think we should kill all the lurking newbies who is likely town before we start scumhunting?
2. And how is jackals filter better then theirs?

It is Jackal damnit. I dont say Jackal has done excellent scumhunting so far because he had done little to none, but I dont see how killing a guy who is around benefits us when we have people like Node talking how good town they want to play this game and the game starts and he goes lurky as hell. Sinani has meta of being lurky, just like damn Kenpachi and we cant do much. There are people who certainly know how to play but are lurking. Wbg is not as active as usual too. The item thing looks indeed pretty strong , although unless sandroba himself does not posses such an item then he cant be sure who is lying(if someone is) I just think we are at a similar situation like with Ace. We might be pulling the trigger too quickly. Jackal, have You lied to sandroba about Your item?


Kurumi votes for Jackal as Captain first.
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 17:39 Kurumi wrote:
##vote Jackal58


The bandwagon doesn't pick up, so he wastes his vote for Talismania.
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 03:19 Kurumi wrote:
##unvote Jackal58
##vote Talismania


He also votes for me as a lynch and never switches to the alien overlord.
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 07:39 Kurumi wrote:
##vote MrZentor


In summary, he defends two people we know are scum, l10f and Jackal; attacks somebody who we know to be pro town, sandroba, and tries to start a bandwagon lynch against me without taking responsibility!! I'm wondering why nobody has seen this yet.

Just sayin'.

It sucks that I need to respond to that on my phone but I wont be able to use my pc for like ten hours so the faster I can respond to this the better it is for us.
Of course I would spread doubt about sandroba day one , check out my agenda and it is consistent until d2, when I claim to him. As a host myself I found it unlikely that there would be an easy way to find scum thanks to items. Breaking the game is unusual. Besides, I am against claiming d1 unless it is some type of plan. I had no idea what sandroba had planned so I was really against it.
I voted Jackal because he is pretty good town player, tends to die early, tends to hold blue roles but is a null read for at least a cycle. As I disliked the plan and gmarshal was not against it I was left with no choice but to vote someone different. Remember, You were a candidate too, but I was leaning scum on You then.
The first 'defense' where I supposedly defended l10f was not one. I just showed that layabout pointed fingers at two players. That is not a defense.
As for Jackal it was the guilt for Ace's death and me still having doubts about the setup. There is only that .
As for me not taking responsibility for Your lynch... Check my post again. What it basically says is "dont give me credit for something I havent done. It was layabouts job."
By the way the deadline is 3am in Europe so I miss a bit of things. A lot when some crazy sw
itching happens. I was considering voting Jackal outright but it did not clear up for me. As more info entered the thread I was more confident that people are right. So I decided that I will sleep for now and check it again. Forgot that the day would end that night. Chaoser whats the thing with Node lying?
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Poland6130 Posts
April 19 2012 15:13 GMT
#1042
I'm back.
I was lurking the thread during school to see if someone would need me but nothing happened.
Chaoser, what do You know about Node?
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Poland6130 Posts
April 19 2012 16:17 GMT
#1052
On April 20 2012 00:23 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay, so DRAZERK replaces sandro, not Dirkzor, is this correct?

Kurumi, what do you think about chaoser and wherebugsgo?

Chaoser town
wherebugsgo
lurking which he has never done before and that's the thing which rubs me the wrong way. though I had like little contact with anyone in pms so I only base on the thread.
Also, correct.
If Node shot Coag I think we should leave him for now then and get wrong voting lurkers ejected (I know my votes were not the best... but I explained them already)
So let me get a list of people being on wrong lists
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Poland6130 Posts
April 19 2012 16:39 GMT
#1054

+ Show Spoiler [D1] +
On April 15 2012 05:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
GMarshal -11-
sandroba
Maverick32x
strongandbig
marvellosity
Coagulation
Erandorr
RayzorFlash
grush57
EchelonTee
sinani206
l10f

sandroba -9-
chaoser
GMarshal
Snarfs
Acrofales
prplhz
risk.nuke
wherebugsgo
talismania
layabout
michaelthe

Coagulation -1-
Jackal58

talismania -1-
Kurumi


Froggynoddy -1-
grush57

Ace -4-
VayeshMoru
wherebugsgo
MrZentor
Sinensis


wherebugsgo -1-
Ace

+ Show Spoiler [D2] +

MrZentor -3-
Kurumi
Snarfs
prplhz

prplhz -2-
EchelonTee
Coagulation

EchelonTee -1-
sinani206

Node -1-
VayeshMoru

Coagulation -1-
Maverick32x


sandroba -1-
michaelthe

Jackal58 -11-
sandroba
risk.nuke

VisceraEyes
MrZentor
talismania
chaoser

Errandor
RayzorFlash
wherebugsgo
strongandbig
marvellosity
Node

EchelonTee
Sinani206
marvellosity - this guy has never attacked anyone, but was posting in the thread... Those up have weird voting patterns too.
Please check if the D2 vote thing is correct.
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Poland6130 Posts
April 19 2012 16:49 GMT
#1057
I guess Viscera should be green
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Poland6130 Posts
April 20 2012 19:58 GMT
#1106
I take whatever lynch. Sinani/ET or S&B?
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Poland6130 Posts
April 20 2012 20:16 GMT
#1121
That means we're left with some new players I'd assume? Anyway, amazing shot.
The thing is, what do we do know? Every scum so far played..
THEY DID NOT PLAY OMG
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Poland6130 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 06:33:22
April 21 2012 06:31 GMT
#1211
On April 21 2012 13:50 talismania wrote:
Well gg.

Nice to win but I'd like to play a regular game next to see what that is like. I've only ever played pm and im games and I was surprised there was so little Convo sharing and faking etc.

Shout out to Kurumi for hooking me up w the exoskeleton. It felt good to be a vet medic.

Thanks for all the best newbie shout outs but I feel they're a tad undeserved since I've played like 20 games before on another site :-)

Hope to see you all in future games!

Glad You liked it.
Day one was fine. The rest of the game was boring, I was not in any of the circles so I basically followed the empty thread. No PM games for me for a while. But the items were cool.
Also.sorry to layabout . Lets bury the hatchet.
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Poland6130 Posts
April 21 2012 09:35 GMT
#1260
Doctor Helvetica if You get depressed again I ask going to rip Your balls off. Being host is hard. Having own opinion is legal, so stop tucking arguing. I should be shot together with Ace if it was really about not cooperating. I was against it till d2.
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