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VayeshMoru
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Maverick32x
United States311 Posts
On April 17 2012 23:14 marvellosity wrote: There we go. People I spoke to most were Acro (as others can attest), sandroba, and recently wbg. Also had PM contact with others, perhaps notably zentor and GMarshal early. Reads for me are... difficult. At the moment I'm liking VE's interrogative stance on the GMarshal/sandroba duo. Early on, it was GMarshal that led me to trust sandroba and claim to sandroba. GMarshal's reasoning was that sandroba's plan that was apparently shot down by DrH was a town thing, plus the sheer amount of effort sandroba was putting in. What makes me uncomfortable is GMarshal's practically complete absence from the thread since then, eye problems not withstanding. Regarding zentor, in our (somewhat limited) contact I didn't really get a scummy vibe off him. Somewhat annoyingly, Acro told me to be suspicious of Zentor if Acro died, but supplied me with no reasoning for it. That kinda makes me nervous.. | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
On April 17 2012 23:05 Maverick32x wrote: My vote is going with Coagulation... unnecessary hard lynching on Ace, and major bandwagoning as described above^ umm I put pressure on ace cause he was my number one scum read... thats how you fucking get information. You pressure people as hard as you can. You pressure the fuck out of them and watch how THEY AND people around them react and make your decisions accordingly. So lets break this down. Mrzentor defended ace during my pressure. Ace flips scum 2 scum candidates come up Mrzentor ( clearly he reacted town to my pressure on ace and his defending of ace who flips town ) Prpl ( clearly ninja votes and lurks with zero input to game and multiple scum tells plus ace link) I wonder who the fuck im gonna vote. THATS LIKE ANTI BANDWAGON. GTFO | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On April 17 2012 22:53 chaoser wrote: Has anyone talked to sinani in PMs? Has anyone??? | ||
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Coagulation
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On April 17 2012 23:19 VayeshMoru wrote: Vayesh eyed mavellosity mockingly. Tis a shame that someone would refuse to listen to the words of a wise man because he does not like the words. Perhaps Marvel should open his blind eyes before its too late, lest the rest of the world see him for the alien that he is. You're starting to remind me of Flamewheel Haikuing his way to a scum victory. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On April 17 2012 23:55 Coagulation wrote: I havnt If no one else has then I'd like to push for a sinani lynch. With Ace flipping townie, it seems weird to me that all sinani has done this game is try to buddy Ace: On April 13 2012 13:02 sinani206 wrote: Still don't understand why people want to kill you. Also I think too many people are throwing their mayor votes around. It just doesn't make any sense to me. On April 13 2012 13:10 sinani206 wrote: There's nothing wrong with not posting for ~20 minutes because of watching a sporting event. On April 14 2012 16:57 sinani206 wrote: Current thoughts on the three major mayor candidates: sandroba: Kinda wants to be mayor for the power. He is pretty much saying that if he's elected, he will run a dictatorship. I don't really like this. Ace: As usual, his concise posts make a shit ton of sense. I'd also vote for him to prevent him from being stupidly killed for the heck of it. GMarshal: Does look like the best candidate. Playing his true town meta and also helping out newer players. With bonus "^_^" (lol). My vote's going on him for now. If no one has been in contact with him in PMs, then his making this statement is pretty hypocritical: On April 17 2012 03:21 sinani206 wrote: It's a PM game; you need to communicate in PMs. It's like playing an entirely different game. And you still want to play regular mafia. That doesn't make any sense to me. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
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talismania
United States2364 Posts
Here are the players from which I believe the scum team comes: MrZentor - A few reasons to think this as have been posted. One, as brought up by layabout via kurumi of course is the entanglement with l10f. l10f is bad at playing scum. The simplest explanation for his behavior is that he was trying to protect his scumbuddy when he saw someone attack him. Two is that his demeanor has changed over the course of the game. He started out with his bid for captaincy, ever since it fizzled and people started looking at him, he's been on the defensive. This is a weaker reason as town can act this way too. Also note strongandbig's point about his campaign for captaincy including the promise that people could lynch him if they disagreed with his decision-making. That made and still makes no sense from a town point of view - if you're town, why would you agree to let yourself get lynched under any circumstances? Three is that he basically revealed that he knew about acrofales' bombs. I haven't heard any replies from the people I PM'd about this yet so I'll just go ahead and post it. People seem to be confused by Acrofale's bomb. He could target a person at night with it, and if Acro died, the person died too. He could choose to move it to somebody else the next night or keep it on the same person. R.I.P Acrofales This means that acrofales told him how his bombs work. This means that MrZentor knew that if acrofales died, another person would die. This means that if MrZentor were scum, he knew that killing acrofales would be a 2 for 1. Also note that acrofales stated in the thread at one point that he thought MrZentor was acting scummy. Acrofales was targeted for a reason - part of it may have been his suspicion of l10f but another part of it may be this. Marvellosity, this explains why acrofales told you to be suspicious of Zentor if he died. The only part that doesn't make sense is why Zentor would even make that post - maybe someone else knew? Maybe he slipped in trying to appear helpful? Or this whole case is rubbish and he's town. Sinani206 Read Sinani's filter. Compare it to l10f's. Sinani does nothing day one but comment on the captaincy. It's all superficial game-content posts from him. There is no attempt at real scumhunting. There is no attempt at any protown plan. He hasn't responded to PMs. Yet he's still in the game, posting and making votes. His vote just now for ET reeks. Jackal58 He's on here almost by process of elimination and my own gut feeling to be perfectly honest. Here are his comments in PM land when asked what he thinks of sinani, node, and zentor: Node is AWOL too much. Don't know if he's going strong in PM land or not. Sinani drives me nuts but I think he's town. Zentor strikes me as a noob trying to get lynched. Dunno what he is. What do you make of them? What do you make of Sandroba? Original Message From talismania: what do you make of node, sinani, and zentor? Could be confirmation bias, but my eyebrows arched a bit when he asks me that fish-y question on sandroba. Here's the rest of the conversation: + Show Spoiler + I have never been right about Sinani. I don't expect to start being right about him today. He reminds me of Kenpachi. And Node I agree. I've only seen him disappear like this when he's been scum. You're right about Sandroba. I don't know why everybody claimed to him,and I still haven't ruled out that he may have used a vig to bus his teammate. Original Message From talismania: All three are near the scummy end of my list. sinani and node both only commented reactively to the captaincy discussion and have done little in the way of accusation or protown planning/ideas. At least sinani appears to still be playing the game. Sandroba is town or we're all royally fucked. You think there's something going on with him? coagulation Like, Jackal, this case isn't that strong. There's not much to go on here, but again it's almost process of elimination. He goes after ace fairly strongly, as maverick pointed out. That doesn't necessarily make him scum - many people had suspicions of ace at the time, myself included. His vote on prp does not sit right with me. Not necessarily because of who it was made on, but how it was made. Maybe I'm tunneling, but it was almost like "oh whew, people are interested in a townie lynch let me hop on that real quick". VayeshMoru Oh Vayesh. I really have no clue what your alignment is. You're on this list because you're voting Node right now, and Jackal is fingering him as well. That's weak, I admit. But you also have cast some suspicion on marvellosity, who gives me town vibe, as well as me. You were the only person and maybe are the only person in the game to ever publicly state a suspicion on me. I think it was something like "he's only trying to play for himself" or something when I had just made a post about making sure that everyone shared as much information as possible. ________ On the bubble: Node Node has the same MO as sinani day one - except he actually did put some pressure on someone (strongandbig). And he's also disappeared since then, whereas sinani has at least attempted to keep playing. He's mainly out here because Jackal is raising suspicions of him, and I think scum right now are fishing for viable lynch alternatives to themselves ________ Outside possibilities: Prplhz, erandorr. I wouldn't mind seeing these players flipped but I'm guessing they would come back town and would rather we go for one of ones higher up. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
On April 17 2012 23:57 Jackal58 wrote: You're starting to remind me of Flamewheel Haikuing his way to a scum victory. I write Haikus? | ||
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talismania
United States2364 Posts
On April 18 2012 01:20 Jackal58 wrote: I'm scum because I asked for your opinion on Sandroba? Ok. My case on you is very weak. It's more of a process of elimination thing - if you're not scum then I'm just wrong about someone else I think is town, which happens. Who are your top five? | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
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VisceraEyes
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ghost_403
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VisceraEyes
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michaelthe
United States359 Posts
On April 16 2012 09:31 sandroba wrote: IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT GM IS STATION TECHNICIAN I'm one of the back-up Station Technicians. That role is unique so GM is confirmed town to me. More people share my same role so GM should be confirmed town to them too. Unless you feel like there is a bunch of mafia linking to each other early you should trust me/gm 100%. It's the same as masons. YOU SHOULD ALL CLAIM TO ME / GM. We have 11 claims right now. If any vigis plan to shoot tonight you should give me a heads up so you don't hit important roles that I already know about. I don't know why we haven’t been probing this claim A LOT harder. I asked Sandroba about it in PM, but I'm apparently not important enough to respond to in PM land. I want to know how exactly this claim worked. Was it an automatic claim to each other given in your roles? Did one person have to initiate? Are there more people, as you seemed to indicate? Why would you not know exactly who they are? Did the claim necessarily include alignment? This is important as it would make sense in a body snatchers game, role!=alignment. Either way, I want to know every detail of what happened. We either have a via pro-town force, which ought to be leading the scum hunt harder, or one or more scum taking advantage. I'd really like to know which it is. ##Vote: Sandroba | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On April 18 2012 01:34 talismania wrote: My case on you is very weak. It's more of a process of elimination thing - if you're not scum then I'm just wrong about someone else I think is town, which happens. Who are your top five? I don't have a top 5. I have a top 1. Node. And that's based upon a complete and total lack of participation. That's very un Node like. After that it's all a guess. There is hardly enough in this thread to go on. WBG hasn't been calling people morons and idiots yet. And that sir is all I gots atm. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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