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On April 17 2012 13:26 talismania wrote:I solved the first |10f nugget. He claimed to talk to GM, wbg, and acrofales. He received a PM from kurumi but did not respond. Here is an important piece of information for the thread, from acrofales' chat with |10f (posted pg 33): Show nested quote +[21:38:49] l10f: i talked a bit to wbg
[21:38:59] l10f: kurumi sent me a PM, but I never responded WBG, do you have that conversation? Finally, consider the night kills. I think this mafia team is playing a much simpler game than I initially imagined. Layabout was killed because he was all over |10f. Acrofales was probably killed for the same reason, especially since we can assume that Ace was telling the truth about |10f himself doing the hit on acrofales. For all we know, |10f might have been calling all the shots for them. The fact that Ace flipped green should make most crazy scum conspiracy theories die. The only super-crazy one left is that GM is scum and station technician just happens to be a scum role (or third party).
he lied, there was only this:
on TL? Yes, once.. or twice. I don't really remember.
l10f on skype.. maybe elteneff, not sure.
Original Message From wherebugsgo:
have you played mafia before?
just curious. If you have skype, let's talk there, yeah?
I added him on skype and he was never there to talk.
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I think it's more likely that the single exchange via pm and response was what he meant by "a bit"
This all but confirms WBG and kurumi as town in my eyes.
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Also, I was just clicking through the filters and noticed that the number of aliens left listed in the OP is no longer X/Y. It is now 5/6. Dunno if I was just the only one to miss that but this is obviously important information.
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On April 17 2012 09:32 EchelonTee wrote:
prplhz, I have never ever known you to play a lurky town style. You have literally posted nothing and as a semi-vet this is a glaring big red flag. I propose a prplhz lynch because he has done nothing which is utterly strange for him. And then he sheeps on MrZentor with 0 reasoning. Regardless of MrZ's alignment, prplhz absence is scummy.
##Vote prplhz
Nice bandwagon.
##Vote: EchelonTee
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Vayesh sat with his back to the coms listening to the noise that filtered through into the room. It was terrible noise. People were saying things that made near no sense. People were forgetting things that had happened in the stories of old. There was a trend in the men through time named Gmarshal and Sandroba. That trend was to always disappear and not help after day 1 or unless pushed hard to contribute. One has claimed sickness while the other has shown irrational behaviour. They are the leaders of our ship now yet all is quiet. Where is the leadership? Why have they not found an alien in our midst?
Vayesh pondered this and sighed once more. It was time people opened their eyes he thought. It was time people realized the alien node, or the alien marvellosity
As such Vayesh input his vote
##vote node
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That prplhz wagon formed too fast for me to feel comfortable with... I say we stick to lynching Zentor (or Node... Node/i10f were both early scum reads for GMarshal and I agreed with him on them... This was the basis on which I voted for him in the first place, and he went on to lynch someone other than them >_<...This, by the way, isalso why I think GM is town, roleclaims etc aside) and shoot prplhz at the earliest opportunity.
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On April 17 2012 08:58 Maverick32x wrote:
Just to back track-
@Sandroba-
You mentioned you had told the vig to l10f.. do we have proof on that?
I won't say that confirms you're town, but its pretty close, especially so early in the game....
I told sandroba I might shoot l10f and sandroba said go ahead and do it.
On April 17 2012 14:24 talismania wrote:
Also, I was just clicking through the filters and noticed that the number of aliens left listed in the OP is no longer X/Y. It is now 5/6. Dunno if I was just the only one to miss that but this is obviously important information.
It changed after l shot10f and the threat was revealed to be aliens.
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On April 17 2012 14:58 VayeshMoru wrote:
Vayesh sat with his back to the coms listening to the noise that filtered through into the room. It was terrible noise. People were saying things that made near no sense. People were forgetting things that had happened in the stories of old. There was a trend in the men through time named Gmarshal and Sandroba. That trend was to always disappear and not help after day 1 or unless pushed hard to contribute. One has claimed sickness while the other has shown irrational behaviour. They are the leaders of our ship now yet all is quiet. Where is the leadership? Why have they not found an alien in our midst?
Vayesh pondered this and sighed once more. It was time people opened their eyes he thought. It was time people realized the alien node, or the alien marvellosity
As such Vayesh input his vote
##vote node
Look Vayesh, you can't keep playing like this. Informationwise your post don't include why you think they are aliens and if you don't you could almost just aswell type about white fluffy clouds.
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On April 17 2012 14:47 sinani206 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2012 09:32 EchelonTee wrote:
prplhz, I have never ever known you to play a lurky town style. You have literally posted nothing and as a semi-vet this is a glaring big red flag. I propose a prplhz lynch because he has done nothing which is utterly strange for him. And then he sheeps on MrZentor with 0 reasoning. Regardless of MrZ's alignment, prplhz absence is scummy.
##Vote prplhz Nice bandwagon. ##Vote: EchelonTee
This makes NO sense... but lets look at this bandwagon on prplhz...
If anything- Coagulation should be seen as the most suspicious after this exchange.. he jumps right on and targets prplhz, and was a big "lynch Ace" advocate....
And then we still have MrZentor, who I think is bussing prphlz with his meager response/reason for softly going along with a prplhz vote....
That being said, I'm willing to vote for either Zentor or prphlz, whichever will get a lynch...
Have people been talking to prphlz in PMs (outside of the one that was posted)?
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prphlz sent me his Skype name but that's all the communication I've had with him.
Has anybody talked to Node in PM land?
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Vayesh shook his head in disbelief at crewman risk.nuke. Lack of information was presented when in fact a quick listen of all the things the ones Vayesh accused clearly shows their true identities. Vayesh wondered why people were unable to see the facts right infront of them. Surely he was not the only one to see reason. Reaching down he pulled the leaver on his chair and leaned back into a recline. This would be a long day holed up in the com room again. It would give plenty of time to read the next captains log however. Or perhaps the logs of researcher Ace.
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Has anyone talked to sinani in PMs?
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On April 17 2012 22:52 VayeshMoru wrote:
Vayesh shook his head in disbelief at crewman risk.nuke. Lack of information was presented when in fact a quick listen of all the things the ones Vayesh accused clearly shows their true identities. Vayesh wondered why people were unable to see the facts right infront of them. Surely he was not the only one to see reason. Reaching down he pulled the leaver on his chair and leaned back into a recline. This would be a long day holed up in the com room again. It would give plenty of time to read the next captains log however. Or perhaps the logs of researcher Ace.
Perhaps because other people have more, different, and better facts in front of them, having made the effort to actually talk to people?
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On April 17 2012 09:04 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2012 08:58 Maverick32x wrote:
Just to back track-
@Sandroba-
You mentioned you had told the vig to l10f.. do we have proof on that?
I won't say that confirms you're town, but its pretty close, especially so early in the game....
Back on track-
I don't approve of this Mr. Zentor lynch. A lot of lurkers seem to be coming out of the woodwork to bandwagon on this one... Reading through his filters... not nearly that suspicious...
One huge problem I'm coming up against is reading filters, and wondering if this person is inactive (mavellosity for example) or if they are engaging in PMs with other players to make them seem more 'town'? Given I was talking to VE's wife, I would dare say I talk to people in PM land. I have a null read on her. If you had a specific question or questions, I'd love to give answering a bash.
I guess my specific question would be- who are you talking to in PM's and what is your read on them~
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So I still believe that zentor is scum.
I still hold to the case I made in my previous posts about his captain candidacy. The main case is in my filter, but to summarize: his positions were scummy because he went farther in the "democracy" direction than anyone was asking him to.
His positions would have allowed him to avoid any responsibility for his actions unless town happened to pick up on scum day 1, in which case he would be able to defend that person.
The timing of his change from a joke candidate to a serious one was really suspicious, because at the time it looked like sandroba was just going to snowball his way into the position, so zentor waited as long as he reasonably could have before starting a serious candidacy.
His answer to these arguments has been, basically, "I'm too bad at this game to have been the scum candidate." First, that doesn't actually answer any of my arguments about how scummy his behavior was. Second, to me that's a really unpersuasive argument in itself, since it relies on us guessing at scum's decision making process. For all we know, scum could have chosen zentor as their candidate because he's bad at the game, either because then he could deny being the scum candidate using the exact arguments he has been using, or because that makes him expendable of his candidacy draws too much attention. No, MrZentor is scum and I'm voting him for the lynch.
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My vote is going with Coagulation... unnecessary hard lynching on Ace, and major bandwagoning as described above^
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Researcher logs, Ace, Stardate FU
Space, the final frontier
These are the voyages of the Badass Ace
His continuing mission:
To explore strange new worlds
To seek out new life; new civilizations
To boldy go somewhere the retards are not.
I talked, I screamed. I yelled at men to not listen to the lies of other men. I have become the accessory to stupidity. But the most damning thing of all…..I realized I just don’t care. And if I had to do it all over again, I would. Incognito was right about one thing – A guilty conscience was a price that could destroy the safety of the space station.
Vayesh put down his log and scoffed at the man known as marvel. If only people realized how easy it was to deceive one another in private conversations. How easy it was to result in pointless finger pointing when someone is revealed to be a liar and a monster. How much chaos will ensue. How putting blind trust in two people who are absent has led to a lack of order that should already have been created. The facts are clearly outlined infront of us all, where all of us can hear them, and you all refuse to listen. Again Vayesh sighed. What hope was there if the people needing it were so blind.
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Vayesh began to laugh at strongandbig. Vayesh did not realize there was a parrot on the station.
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On April 17 2012 22:57 Maverick32x wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2012 09:04 marvellosity wrote:On April 17 2012 08:58 Maverick32x wrote:
Just to back track-
@Sandroba-
You mentioned you had told the vig to l10f.. do we have proof on that?
I won't say that confirms you're town, but its pretty close, especially so early in the game....
Back on track-
I don't approve of this Mr. Zentor lynch. A lot of lurkers seem to be coming out of the woodwork to bandwagon on this one... Reading through his filters... not nearly that suspicious...
One huge problem I'm coming up against is reading filters, and wondering if this person is inactive (mavellosity for example) or if they are engaging in PMs with other players to make them seem more 'town'? Given I was talking to VE's wife, I would dare say I talk to people in PM land. I have a null read on her. If you had a specific question or questions, I'd love to give answering a bash. I guess my specific question would be- who are you talking to in PM's and what is your read on them~
There we go. People I spoke to most were Acro (as others can attest), sandroba, and recently wbg. Also had PM contact with others, perhaps notably zentor and GMarshal early.
Reads for me are... difficult. At the moment I'm liking VE's interrogative stance on the GMarshal/sandroba duo. Early on, it was GMarshal that led me to trust sandroba and claim to sandroba. GMarshal's reasoning was that sandroba's plan that was apparently shot down by DrH was a town thing, plus the sheer amount of effort sandroba was putting in.
What makes me uncomfortable is GMarshal's practically complete absence from the thread since then, eye problems not withstanding.
Regarding zentor, in our (somewhat limited) contact I didn't really get a scummy vibe off him. Somewhat annoyingly, Acro told me to be suspicious of Zentor if Acro died, but supplied me with no reasoning for it.
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EBWOP: policy ignoring Vayesh now.
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