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On April 11 2012 05:05 MidnightGladius wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2012 04:51 johnnywup wrote:
I've been sheeping VE because, well, he's been a supporter of me in every game we've played. I know that's probably not good since I don't really know his alignment in this game but he earned my "trust". It's probably a bad idea to mindlessly sheep, even if he's been very good in every other game I've played. So that's my excuse why. You just shot way up on the threat radar. At the very least, I want to see independent reads from now. Besides Hassy, who else would you vote for tomorrow, and why?
Yeah, I know. I figured from now on I'll give full disclosure 
Sputnik. Not taking the game very seriously, very very little scumhunting, he's not scumhunting because "it's more likely that we'll hit town" (not actually looking atcontent, only statistics), constantly insults people with casesagainst him, very very scummy imo. His tone as well is very anti-town.
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On April 11 2012 05:52 johnnywup wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2012 05:05 MidnightGladius wrote:On April 11 2012 04:51 johnnywup wrote:
I've been sheeping VE because, well, he's been a supporter of me in every game we've played. I know that's probably not good since I don't really know his alignment in this game but he earned my "trust". It's probably a bad idea to mindlessly sheep, even if he's been very good in every other game I've played. So that's my excuse why. You just shot way up on the threat radar. At the very least, I want to see independent reads from now. Besides Hassy, who else would you vote for tomorrow, and why? Yeah, I know. I figured from now on I'll give full disclosure Sputnik. Not taking the game very seriously, very very little scumhunting, he's not scumhunting because "it's more likely that we'll hit town" (not actually looking atcontent, only statistics), constantly insults people with casesagainst him, very very scummy imo. His tone as well is very anti-town.
Scum Logic 101: Dont wanna rock the boat? Take reads from everyone else focused on a highly debated and targeted player, mix me together, put on the oven for 20 minutes in 350 heat, serve warm.
Also, prove you are actively lurking. Coolio.
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On April 11 2012 05:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
Toad continued herpin and derpin all the way to his coinflip Vig shot on chaoser in Arkham bugs...you really think he's going to be "figurable" later?
I don't. I think he looks bad enough now.
sure, that's fine if you disagree. Toad is one of those players who is generally so unreadable for me I just ignore him and let the other mafia die first. So far we haven't been in a situation where Toad would become readable; we need to see whether he will be willing to kill mafia or not. As no mafia have flipped, how do we know he is?
On April 11 2012 05:49 MidnightGladius wrote:
Johnny is on neither of your lists, but he looks pretty bad to me. He admitted to pointlessly sheeping VE, has provided no substantial scumreads on his own, and is not particularly active. What's your reasoning for not mentioning him anywhere?
If a player admits to something that is normally really bad to admit, chances are they are not actually scum because scum usually would not purposely admit something like that. New scum, at any rate. Johnnywup is a relatively new player, and while he has said some (somewhat suspicious) things, I don't find him as scummy as other players because he actually has been relatively active and transparent. Those are luxuries not normally afforded by scum.
He has certainly been more active than most of the targets I proposed. He has as many posts as you do, for one. New players sheeping well-known players isn't necessarily a scummy trait, IMO. Johnnywup's town team in C9++ won almost solely because they sheeped sandroba and VE, for one. I actually thought him saying that he was sheeping VE was simply indicative of him tending toward a strategy that previously proved effective.
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Yeah, if Jdub doesn't like one of my targets that ends up flipping scum or something, then I'll be suspicious MG. In the meantime, he hasn't really done anything that's indicative of pushing an agenda. He's allowing me to push mine, and as far as I'm concerned it's going to win town the game. 
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On April 11 2012 05:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
Toad continued herpin and derpin all the way to his coinflip Vig shot on chaoser in Arkham bugs...you really think he's going to be "figurable" later?
I don't. I think he looks bad enough now.
Kita figured me out in storm pretty easily. He even fakeclaimed a green DT check on me to stop you guys lynching me that game. That being said I don't think I'm unreadable at all and frankly I don't have a clue why I'm not on wbg's protection list 
I think people are scared because my mafia play is usually pretty townish according to Rad and day1 is really easy to look townish without flips and stuff?
Of course you know that too, you were the SK who kindly stopped lynching me to win the game himself with a little help from town. Maybe YOU are not able to figure me out but I doubt you'd say something like that.
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I wouldn't recommend vigs shooting ANYONE except Sputnik. DO NOT shoot any outspoken players, like 4F.
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Why specifically do you mention 4F? There are several outspoken players Nisani, a lot of whom are active right now. Why 4F in particular?
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Blazinghand
United States25558 Posts
He's trying to save his scumbuddy
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On April 11 2012 06:20 Blazinghand wrote:
He's trying to save his scumbuddy
I literally just lost half my food ontop of my laptop Keyboard while eating it so hard did I have to laugh. Luckily I put the fork only half a second before that in my mouth making the food still look okayish and not gross like you just throw up.
I like that guy.
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4F was on WBG's shoot list "if you have balls of steel." I was going to add Jackal but I decided not to because I don't know why anyone would shoot him.
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LET THE BOY ANSWER FOR HIMSELF
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You may ask Nisana about the Fourface. But he's spot on about sputnik. I am finding it hard to believe that even a dumb mafia would have played as dumb a game as sputnik has; I just can't quite get myself to believe it.
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Yeah I'm not sure about sputnik. The reason I'm not finding him so suspicious is because of how certain I was that risk.nuke was scum in Election Mafia when either Rad or Bugs pointed out how unlikely it is for scum to be so blatantly abrasive...draws too much attention. The thing is, he's pouring it on so thick that it actually LOOKS like an act.
I don't know about that guy so much. Jury is still out.
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Blazinghand
United States25558 Posts
Don't worry S.T will get shot tonight and you won't have to think about him any more
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On April 11 2012 06:28 VisceraEyes wrote:Yeah I'm not sure about sputnik. The reason I'm not finding him so suspicious is because of how certain I was that risk.nuke was scum in Election Mafia when either Rad or Bugs pointed out how unlikely it is for scum to be so blatantly abrasive...draws too much attention. The thing is, he's pouring it on so thick that it actually LOOKS like an act. I don't know about that guy so much. Jury is still out.
wasn't me, I wasn't in election
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Ya must have been Rad...he's good like that.
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On April 11 2012 06:28 VisceraEyes wrote:Yeah I'm not sure about sputnik. The reason I'm not finding him so suspicious is because of how certain I was that risk.nuke was scum in Election Mafia when either Rad or Bugs pointed out how unlikely it is for scum to be so blatantly abrasive...draws too much attention. The thing is, he's pouring it on so thick that it actually LOOKS like an act. I don't know about that guy so much. Jury is still out.
Generally agreed, but is that really a plan a sensible person can entertain? "Let's be so scummy I can't be scum". Seems... risky to say the least.
It's still a good vig hit though because it's still fairly hard to believe a town would act like that too!
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On April 11 2012 05:14 ghost_403 wrote:Sorry I haven't been posting in thread. RL is kicking my ass at the moment. I'm going to chime in here real quick, then disappear until later tonight. (Unless you guys want to help me code figures into LaTeX ) @Sloosh: Your entire problem with me is the tone of my posts? Not impressed. Come back when you've got a case. Also, why do you want to lynch Hassybaby? The post where you say is only the second time you mentioned him, and the first doesn't tell me why you think he's scum.
Feigning some confidence now? Trying to undermine my case without actually commenting on it?
Trying to divert the attention onto me, even though you could / should have pursued reads on those on the Hassybaby lynch you found oh so fishy, but chose to do it only when something has been brought up against you?
What's that quote ... something like if you can't defend the case, just attack the accuser?
Yeah. That's it.
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