also, we should pop palmar to the blue item and then pull him back to safety. with syllogism and VE here it shouldn't be too hard to tell if he is a good toy or bad.

bedtime gn

Mattchew

United States5684 Posts

April 01 2012 16:56 GMT

#178

Regardless of the outcome of your discussion I will be poping and pulling whomever I feel is the right choice, so you can use me as the example of someone who won't part take in the secondary voting

Mattchew

United States5684 Posts

April 01 2012 18:16 GMT

#187

On April 02 2012 03:12 Acrofales wrote:
I'm glad to see everybody is so busy scumhunting today! For the record, is being for the secondary vote scummy or townie? Just so I know, because honestly I cannot use pro or contra the voting system in any useful way as a scumtell.

MrZentor: I think you're basically right. Pushing (or actually pulling) Palmar (or anyone for that matter) is atm a high risk, low reward situation and we'd be stupid to do it. Atm the only reason to push someone right to the edge is because we want to lynch him.

Therefore, anybody proposing to get the item is scum.

Cascade, Nemesis, Palmar, Layabout and Mr.Wiggles: why are you pushing a scum agenda?

Don't forget about me... i would like to see palmar get the item. if someone pushes him off (and he flips town) they sky rocket themselves to the top of my scumlist and should just be killed anyway.

My question is why are people so afraid of giving palmar an extra power

Mattchew

United States5684 Posts

April 01 2012 18:27 GMT

#191

On April 02 2012 03:21 Dirkzor wrote:
Mattchew: A better question is why do people want to give him more power?

because
a. because if he's town he has a greater chance of using the power well then almost anyone else in the game
b. he's already closest which means he will tie up the fewest PoPs
c. It will be a great help creating a read on him

Mattchew

United States5684 Posts

April 02 2012 03:23 GMT

#272

##pull palmar

Mattchew

United States5684 Posts

April 02 2012 17:56 GMT

#389

My push is read for palmar

Mattchew

United States5684 Posts

April 02 2012 18:36 GMT

#401

On April 03 2012 03:32 layabout wrote:
cephiro, why are you opposed to getting things done?

Palmar is too close to the item to back out now.
Since nobody has said they are pushing him because they want him to die, pushing him over the edge would simply be you deciding to act against the towns wishes.
If Palmar were to flip town do you think that we would let you live after pushing him?

Besides the longer we leave Palmar in the incineration zone the longer we do not know whether he will decide to flip or not (if he does have that ability), and the longer we do not know where to push our lynch candidate.

I think we should be lynching Nemesis.

Why kill Wiggles?

you should double post a pull then a push of palmar.

Mattchew

United States5684 Posts

April 02 2012 19:50 GMT

#464

On April 03 2012 04:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
I can save Palmar with my power, but it would require dumb amounts of PoPs. I won't say if I think it's worth it or not. *shrug*

same

Mattchew

United States5684 Posts

April 02 2012 19:54 GMT

#471

getting me within a spot of palmar... and theres a risk mine wont work. I can throw him 2 - 4 spots

Mattchew

United States5684 Posts

April 02 2012 20:13 GMT

#482

sure ill sign up... ##push visceraeyes

Mattchew

United States5684 Posts

April 03 2012 15:05 GMT

#742

If you actually read my filter, you would see that I couldn't throw palmar because I need to be next to a person to throw them.

Mattchew

United States5684 Posts

April 03 2012 15:11 GMT

#743

On April 03 2012 22:49 prplhz wrote:
So far everything you've been doing is being blatantly bad while bumping townies into the red.

I bumped them because they asked to be bumped. I was one of the initiators of the get palmar the item plan. I believe I was the first to push VE to save him.

Why is this blatantly bad?

Mattchew

United States5684 Posts

April 03 2012 15:35 GMT

#748

I used my pops to promote a plan and save a townie I only get 1 of each....

Mattchew

United States5684 Posts

April 05 2012 02:49 GMT

#1140

On April 05 2012 11:01 Tobon wrote:
It seems like Syllogism is generally agreed upon as scum. I assume anyone who was having second thoughts will be more convinced by the nullification of Cephiro. He seems like a good first target.

I think we push him 6 times, then agree on a second push target and/or a pull target.

I think Mr.Zentor, cascades, prplhz are scum. I'm willing to go along with wiggles or bluelightz if the rest of town prefers them.

I am having second thoughts about syllo

Also, you saying " I'm willing to go along with wiggles or bluelightz if the rest of town prefers them." looks like you don't want any of the responsibility for their flips. Why are you so wishy washy?

Mattchew

United States5684 Posts

April 05 2012 02:56 GMT

#1142

Here are my thoughts.

Cephiro is 100% town in my eyes. I do disagree with him about syllo and acro. I get scum vibes from prp and cascades for sure though.

I hate trying to figure out bluelightz. In all honesty he is a permanent null read because he seems to always be scum's go to townie lynch.

Bill Murray is scum IMO.

Tobon is probably scum

anyone have any clue as to what the conveyor belt thing looks like after todays actions so far?