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On April 08 2012 02:44 prplhz wrote:Hey I've kinda randomly decided to claim because I don't think it's a good thing that people are afraid that I'm scum right now. Snarfs and I are town masons, we are mod confirmed to each other. Yes, mod confirmed, that was in our role PM so we are mod confirmed. Sorry for the absoluteness of this but that's just how it is. My breadcrumb was when I called Snarfs "mod confirmed townie" in the beginning of this game (not very subtle but I was feeling a bit lazy and I didn't expect that pesky wherebugsgo to go all crazy). Snarfs breadcrumb was when he wrote "prplhz is town" in capital letters in this post. He'll be in here to confirm it some time but you don't really have to wait for that to happen for us to be confirmed town. I'm going out and I won't be back until tomorrow. People need to talk about whether you pull MrZentor or Mr. Wiggles first, and if you are going to leave syllogism at 18 and then push somebody else or if you're pushing him over the edge. I say, leave him and push somebody else. You also need to talk about who you want to push.
i remember u saying he was mod confirmed, as i have an inno on him, and i thought u were referring to believing my claim
considering your interactions with snarfs, and how well you thought of me from that, i was confident in that interpretation
i fully believe your claim. snarfs doesn't trust me, though, does he?
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snarfs/prp: what do u all think of cascades plan to pull mrwiggles down, and then react?
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This town is so inactive that I am one of the most active players from a hotel room with shitty internet. Step it up, guys!
Zentor and prplhz's little slapfest is useless an only serves to hide scum. Cut it out and stop tunneling on each other. Zentor, in stead of your seless defense of prplhz's tunneling, do something useful. Who are your scumspects and why? Talking only about yourself is helping noone, least of all yourself. Saysomething useful or I add my pull to prplhz's.
Everybody else: prove you're alive!
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So, I see people still want to lynch me, and they're still not giving any concrete reasons besides parroting that I'm scum. If someone wants to make a case on me, then go ahead, but it's going to be vacuous, I can tell already.
So, here's my proposal. The queue looks like this right now:
+ Show Spoiler +24.[_________][_________]
23.[_________][_________]
22.[_________][_________]
21.[_________][_________]
20.[_________][_________]
19.[Item_____][_________]
18.[syllogism][_________]
17.[_________][_________]
16.[_________][_________]
15.[_________][_________]
14.[Snarfs][____________]
13.[Mattchew][prplhz]
12.[cascades][_________]
11.[Bluelightz][_________]
10.[Tobon][_________]
9.[Dirkzor][____________]
8.[Mr.Wiggles][risk.nuke]
7.[Acrofales][Nemesis]
6.[Cephiro][Bill Murray]
5.[Mr.Zentor][_________]
4.[_________][_________]
3.[_________][_________]
2.[_________][_________]
1.[_________][_________]
My proposal is that we use three pushes, or some small amount of pulls and pushes, and then check me versus one of Dirkzor or Nemesis with risk.nuke's ability. Then, we either get a clear, and we can focus on other targets for awhile, or we get a red check, and we can kill into the two people. If you want to push one of the two into the danger zone, then this plan only uses one additional push in total to get them there due to the way the queue works. If we want to pull, then it's a little more inefficient, but we could work it around pulls to make it as efficient as possible, i.e. pull Acrofales once, then either push dirk out, or pull out nemesis. Then, it would take either one more pull or push than just killing, but we have a check now, so in the case we mislynch, we know the other guy checked as red.
My reason for checking versus either Dirk or Nemesis, is that I think Acrofales is much more likely to be town than either of those two based on his posting, and they both seem pretty scummy to me. Also, checking only two people, if we get a red-check, and you decide to mislynch by killing me, you at least know for certain who the scum is. None of this confusion like what happened with Shrubbles, Syllo, and Cephiro.
So, the outcome is that we either:
a) Check two people as town.
b) Get a scum result, in which case I know the other guy is scum, and can hopefully convince you to kill him instead of myself.
Like I said, this only uses one additional push/pull than just straight up killing one of us, gives a binary result (or at least one from my point-of-view), and can hopefully clear up a lot of confusion. We also lose risk-nuke's push and pull, but I think that's worth it for the potential gains.
What do you guys think?
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I'll post properly tomorrow morning. I am the Warp Prism Toy and I'm fucking awesome and tired.
##push Mattchew
Add up the pieces and you'll figure that Mattchew is scum, and throwed VisceraEyes into the flames the first day (VE moved at least 2 spots, and no scum would have a double hidden PoP, his throw ability explains it perfectly.)
Also I want cascades dead. Syllo+Mattchew+cascades confirmed scum to me, I will read more tomorrow morning with cases on each. For now you're just best off killing those three as they're all scum.
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##pull cascades
(Done after my warp)
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EBWOP: ##pull cascades
Told you I'm tired. Pull done after I swapped places with him. Will explain stuff tomorrow morning (+7-9 hours ish)
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Day 3 queue
+ Show Spoiler +
24.[_________][_________]
23.[_________][_________]
22.[_________][_________]
21.[_________][_________]
20.[_________][_________]
19.[Item_____][_________]
18.[syllogism][_________]
17.[_________][_________]
16.[_________][_________]
15.[_________][_________]
14.[Snarfs][Mattchew]
13.[prplhz][_________]
12.[Cephiro][_________]
11.[Bluelightz][_________]
10.[Tobon][_________]
9.[Dirkzor][____________]
8.[Mr.Wiggles][risk.nuke]
7.[Acrofales][Nemesis]
6.[Bill Murray][_________]
5.[Mr.Zentor][cascades]
4.[_________][_________]
3.[_________][_________]
2.[_________][_________]
1.[_________][_________]
PoPs
+ Show Spoiler +
Mr.Wiggles
Bluelightz
risk.nuke
Dirkzor
Mattchew
Snarfs
Cephiro Push Mattchew Pull cascades
Tobon
syllogism
Mr.Zentor
prplhz Pull MrZentor
Acrofales
Bill Murray
cascades
Nemesis
15 Toys remain, 5 gone bad.
Day 3 ends on Monday, April 9th at 04:00 GMT (+00:00) (12:00AM ET)
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mattchew has been biding his time all game
he has a pretty bad slip in relation to admitting cephiro is town
and we need someone else in the red to use risk.nuke's ability
it's him or snarfs, and my dt check came up with snarfs town, so
##push: mattchew
risk nuke, use your ability now, please. thanks.
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On April 08 2012 09:06 Cephiro wrote:
I'll post properly tomorrow morning. I am the Warp Prism Toy and I'm fucking awesome and tired.
##push Mattchew
Add up the pieces and you'll figure that Mattchew is scum, and throwed VisceraEyes into the flames the first day (VE moved at least 2 spots, and no scum would have a double hidden PoP, his throw ability explains it perfectly.)
Also I want cascades dead. Syllo+Mattchew+cascades confirmed scum to me, I will read more tomorrow morning with cases on each. For now you're just best off killing those three as they're all scum.
You are either a fucking idiot or scum.
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On April 08 2012 13:42 Bill Murray wrote:
mattchew has been biding his time all game
he has a pretty bad slip in relation to admitting cephiro is town
and we need someone else in the red to use risk.nuke's ability
it's him or snarfs, and my dt check came up with snarfs town, so
##push: mattchew
risk nuke, use your ability now, please. thanks.
this isn't scummy at all?
wtf is this shit.
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nice defense with the cussing and namecalling
that helps the case on you!
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On April 08 2012 14:25 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 13:42 Bill Murray wrote:
mattchew has been biding his time all game
he has a pretty bad slip in relation to admitting cephiro is town
and we need someone else in the red to use risk.nuke's ability
it's him or snarfs, and my dt check came up with snarfs town, so
##push: mattchew
risk nuke, use your ability now, please. thanks. this isn't scummy at all? wtf is this shit.
my claim is essentially a 1 time cop claim
cephiro has been softclaiming cop all game
risk.nuke has a cop ability
3 cops in this size? no
risk.nuke, use your ability, 2 people are in the red
if you dont use it, we kill you
if you use it, cephiro is scum
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ahhh what if ace is running the classic 4 cop and snarfs is actually mafia, that would make me insane.
can a toy be insane?
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wait, impossible, because my other check flipped town
ok. snarfs is town, or i am naive.
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i think/thought cephiro was town because of the way he has/was posted. your case against me is the worst, and you seem very very scummy
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Lol Ceph isn't a cop. He fake softclaimed that to get people to buy his tunneling. A fake softclaim is either an indication of dumb town or scum. After tunneling prp for all three days, he's just continuing to tunnel others now that prp is almost certainly town.
And now another unilateral pull. Real. We won't get shit done if we all do our own things and go for separate targets. Stop. STOP.
You might say it's hard to decide. That's what fucking risk.nuke power is for. Risk.nuke, use that red light. We can move dirkzor and one of nemesis/acrofales if necessary.
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Hey cascades, why don't you want to check dirkzor?
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Why bother wasting a pull on moving me out of the way? It's just another wasted pop. I am still not sure of nemesis or dirkzor and think wiggles has a good chance of being scum. i say we get nemesis out of the way and use the ability. i'll be back late tonight and then on my home computer 
two more things: ceph, your roleclaim was already completely clear to everybody with more than a peanut for a brain (warp prism not some dt softclaim wtfbbqlol). BM, you're an idiot.
I approve of mattchew pushes, but especially BM's reason is really bad: that does not look like a scumslip to me any more than wbg scumslipped by using a conditional. cephiro adds an interesting hypothesis about mattchew, but it's very high on wifom and directly contradicts mattchew's own claims about his ability. then again, scum would lie about that crap, wouldn't they?
I'll decide tonight how to use my pops. Hopefully with the help of risk.nuke's dt check.
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Also, we're only using the check on two people. Not 5, 4, or even 3. We don't have days to waste, or enough townies to kill into lists of 3 or more that might only have 1 scum. Check two people, and if it says scum, we at worst get a one-to-one trade.
@Acrofales, the point is to not use the check on more than two people. If it pops red with 3 or more people around him, it's useless, and it means that people are going to go on a stupid rampage and probably kill two townies trying to get at the scum. Limiting it to two people makes the check a lot more useful, gives us more information quicker, and limits any potential damage. That's why we need to move you out of the way, preferably in the direction the person we want to lynch has to move.
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