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Day 3 ![[image loading]](http://www.funkyhousemusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/The-Phantoms-Revenge.jpg)
wherebugsgo, The Vengeance Toy has been killed!
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Welcome to Death Factory Mafia! You are the harbinger of justice - the Vengeance Toy! You are a Good Toy.
Originally created as a companion toy to watch over little children at night, this impending doom brought in by the Bad Toys has changed you. At night you may send me the name of a player you want to keep tabs on. If that player is targeted by any actions that night the next day you will be notified and start off within 2 positions of the offending Toy. You won't know the identity of the said Toy but you will have the chance to day kill typing ##shoot : [target] in the thread. You must be occupying the same queue position or be the next queue position over to target a player.
You win by eliminating all of the Bad Toys. Good luck!
Starting Positions
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24.[_________][_________]
23.[_________][_________]
22.[_________][_________]
21.[_________][_________]
20.[_________][_________]
19.[Item_____][_________]
18.[_________][_________]
17.[_________][_________]
16.[_________][_________]
15.[_________][_________]
14.[Snarfs][syllogism]
13.[Mattchew][prplhz]
12.[cascades][_________]
11.[Bluelightz][_________]
10.[Tobon][_________]
9.[Dirkzor][Mr.Zentor]
8.[Mr.Wiggles][risk.nuke]
7.[Acrofales][Nemesis]
6.[Cephiro][Bill Murray]
5.[_________][_________]
4.[_________][_________]
3.[_________][_________]
2.[_________][_________]
1.[_________][_________]
15 Toys remain, 5 gone bad.
Day 3 ends on Monday, April 9th at 04:00 GMT (+00:00) (12:00AM ET)
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As I said... in a hotel and the wifi really sucks. No clue what to do with these queue positions.. all of my suspects are at the top and would have to go through the item :/ Hope to be on a bit more tonight.
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I will unfortunately be very busy most of the whole dayphase (Today a we're celebrating that a friend of mine finished his military service, and tomorrow my sister's birthday.) My opinion: Insta-kill syllo by pulling him down (I'll explain a bit later, but we will only need ~5 pulls for this unless they use an ability or two. Then I would push 3 people into the flames (but not to the item) in this order (to use less PoP thanks to stacking mechanic: cascades -> prplhz -> Mattchew -> prplhz -> cascades.
This will end up cascades at 17, and mattchew+prplhz at 16. (And can be pushed further easily if needed.) I will post cases on these players later (as I do not have the time to do it currently.)
Also, night-kill FML. :/
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We are done with crazy town plans. We use our PoPs in the most simple way as possible, scum that are close to the red zone are pushed and scum who are close to the bottom edge are pulled.
VisceraEyes was pushed into the fire by anonymous scum PoP power so the scum we push should be pushed to positon 18 so they can't be anonymously bumped out again. The item isn't very useful for scum (unless it's the teleportation, but that's unlikely) and if we push several scum into the red zone, they are likely to just push each other to the item anyway. We shouldn't be afraid of scum getting the item at all, it's a lot more important that we ensure that they die.
No one pushes syllogism because Mattchew can pretty easily throw him into the fire from the position that they're in right now. Mattchew: Do your thing.
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In a cafe, so quick post: if you switch with him, it's 7 pulls. I'm fie with that, or we can push him up to 17 and wait for night.
I am vehemently opposed to any plans to get the item, which have now wasted two of our days, and will advocate lynching anybody who wants to waste a third day with that crap. Lets focus on killing scum.
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Ninja'd. I dont like trusting Mattchew, but I guess he goes along or we lynch him immediately, so it's not too bad.
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Feel free to discuss ideas how or if I should do something with my power today?
I check 2 toys 1 slot above me, the toy next to me and toys 1 slot below me so a maximum of 5 toys.
illustration for those who still haven't gotten it. If I would check the red slots.
10.[Tobon][_________]
9.[Dirkzor][Mr.Zentor]
8.[Mr.Wiggles][risk.nuke]
7.[Acrofales][Nemesis]
6.[Cephiro][Bill Murray]
A condition is there needs to be atleast 2 toys in the red zone or it will malfunction so I can't be used as a dt to check a single person.
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On April 07 2012 19:26 risk.nuke wrote:
Feel free to discuss ideas how or if I should do something with my power today?
I check 2 toys 1 slot above me, the toy next to me and toys 1 slot below me so a maximum of 5 toys.
illustration for those who still haven't gotten it. If I would check the red slots.
10.[Tobon][_________]
9.[Dirkzor][Mr.Zentor]
8.[Mr.Wiggles][risk.nuke]
7.[Acrofales][Nemesis]
6.[Cephiro][Bill Murray]
A condition is there needs to be atleast 2 toys in the red zone or it will malfunction so I can't be used as a dt to check a single person.
I don't think you should check while Mr. Wiggles is in there because I think we're lynching him today anyway.
How about I pull Mr. Wiggles and then you push one of Dirkzor/MrZentor and pull one of Acrofales/Nemesis and then you check the remaining two? Either you confirm 2 townies or you give us at least 50% chance to find scum in them.
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On April 07 2012 20:23 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2012 19:26 risk.nuke wrote:
Feel free to discuss ideas how or if I should do something with my power today?
I check 2 toys 1 slot above me, the toy next to me and toys 1 slot below me so a maximum of 5 toys.
illustration for those who still haven't gotten it. If I would check the red slots.
10.[Tobon][_________]
9.[Dirkzor][Mr.Zentor]
8.[Mr.Wiggles][risk.nuke]
7.[Acrofales][Nemesis]
6.[Cephiro][Bill Murray]
A condition is there needs to be atleast 2 toys in the red zone or it will malfunction so I can't be used as a dt to check a single person. I don't think you should check while Mr. Wiggles is in there because I think we're lynching him today anyway. How about I pull Mr. Wiggles and then you push one of Dirkzor/MrZentor and pull one of Acrofales/Nemesis and then you check the remaining two? Either you confirm 2 townies or you give us at least 50% chance to find scum in them.
NO! Stop with the wating of PoP's. Don't use your power we have enough people we have to kill as it is. We only really have 5 PoPs to use.
So what we need to do is kill 2 people and make them stay dead this time.
Lets say we just push syllo all the way to dead. Thats 11 pushes which means we need scum to bus him or mattchew uses his throw. Its fine to use all our pushes just as long as he dies.
Then we can talk about who the 2nd person to die is (wiggles?) and pull him of the end.
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Okay we pull MrZentor off the board. If you don't know why then read his scum filter and then read town filter.
Day1 he spent arguing so much about the Palmar-item plan that he forgot to even try to scum hunt and he didn't vote at all. Day2 he supported the Cephiro-item plan. His only attempt at scum hunting has been a half arsed case against Tobon while he accused people left and right in his town filter. His analysis doesn't look like town who found scum, but more like scum who doesn't want to take any responsibility. The case is safe as Tobon has already been pushed/tunneled for ages by Nemesis and a little by a couple of other people (including me). Before the Tobon case he says that syllogism looks scummiest of the risk.nuke check-trio, but instead he tries to push Tobon even though it doesn't look like he's really hooked on Tobon being scum with the conclusion "these things make me suspect that Tobon is scum".
While the first part of this post looks like he cares about town, he never follows up on it. There's no frustration that day2 sucked because we didn't listen to his advice or any attempts at organizing town.
Also, wherebugsgo thought he was scum and wherebugsgo is a good kid.
##Pull MrZentor
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On April 07 2012 21:48 Dirkzor wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2012 20:23 prplhz wrote:On April 07 2012 19:26 risk.nuke wrote:
Feel free to discuss ideas how or if I should do something with my power today?
I check 2 toys 1 slot above me, the toy next to me and toys 1 slot below me so a maximum of 5 toys.
illustration for those who still haven't gotten it. If I would check the red slots.
10.[Tobon][_________]
9.[Dirkzor][Mr.Zentor]
8.[Mr.Wiggles][risk.nuke]
7.[Acrofales][Nemesis]
6.[Cephiro][Bill Murray]
A condition is there needs to be atleast 2 toys in the red zone or it will malfunction so I can't be used as a dt to check a single person. I don't think you should check while Mr. Wiggles is in there because I think we're lynching him today anyway. How about I pull Mr. Wiggles and then you push one of Dirkzor/MrZentor and pull one of Acrofales/Nemesis and then you check the remaining two? Either you confirm 2 townies or you give us at least 50% chance to find scum in them. NO! Stop with the wating of PoP's. Don't use your power we have enough people we have to kill as it is. We only really have 5 PoPs to use. So what we need to do is kill 2 people and make them stay dead this time. Lets say we just push syllo all the way to dead. Thats 11 pushes which means we need scum to bus him or mattchew uses his throw. Its fine to use all our pushes just as long as he dies. Then we can talk about who the 2nd person to die is (wiggles?) and pull him of the end.
How would you rather we use risk.nuke's power? Do you really think that scum are going to out themselves for syllogism?
You seem to be overreacting a bit to the prospects of potentially getting pinned.
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I would rather we didn't use his power and he used his PoPs. And no I don't think they will out themself for syllo since he is by now surely scum in anyones eyes. I'm just saying we can't use the infomation that one of, for example, me, zentor and acrofales are scum. We don't have the PoP's to kill them while still killing syllo AND any of the others we want to kill (Wiggles, zentor, mattchew)
Why did you use your PoP already?! Can we please start communicating before just throwing PoPs?!
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@Mattchew: Do you throw people 2-4 positions relative to your own position or relative to their position?
@Dirkzor I didn't remember that he lost his PoP when he used his check, but it's still worth it by far. If we kill MrZentor and Mr. Wiggles then the price for checking 2 flaky people is 3 PoPs while the price of checking 3 flaky people is 2 PoPs, totally worth it. We don't have to use the information today, but it's still great to have tomorrow.
Maybe this MrZentor pull was a little premature but I'm quite confident that he's scum and I'm pretty determined to see this through. I really want to spearhead a scum lynch because then maybe Cephiro will get off my back. It's not a problem for me that he's on my back because he's never going to lynch me but I think it's a distraction for town.
So tell me, what do you think about MrZentor?
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I think he is scum. I've said so several times already so its not that I disagree with the person. I was just way to fast to just pull him without support. I'll support it but if most of the town doesn't you have just wasted a pull (Sound like anything everyone did day 1 and 2?)
We can't be sure to kill more then 2 players. We can push more then 2 to the redzone but as we have seen that is no guarentee that they die.
The only thing that are looking good is that Scum is running low on abilities (i hope) so they might not have any way to get out of the redzone without outing themself...
I'm basicly waiting for more to say "Yes lets kill Zentor" and for Mattchew to throw Syllo.
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Prplhz: What is your read on Wiggles?
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Scummy. We can lynch him too but the most I have on him is that he's posting carefully, he's not very upset about the state of this game, and then both VisceraEyes and Palmar didn't like him and those guys rock. If nobody wants to lynch MrZentor then Mr. Wiggles it the best choice. (syllogism is still #1, but that's a given)
I'm not trying to force a mislynch here. If your only concern about MrZentor is that I'm scum and I'm trying to force a mislynch then you should say so.
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It did cross my mind that you pull so early to force the rest of the town to also pull him. That made me wonder...
But if we can agree on a scum team that is:
Syllo
Zentor
Wiggles
who are the last 2?
Blue and cascades?!
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On April 07 2012 21:49 prplhz wrote:Okay we pull MrZentor off the board. If you don't know why then read his scum filter and then read town filter. Day1 he spent arguing so much about the Palmar-item plan that he forgot to even try to scum hunt and he didn't vote at all. Day2 he supported the Cephiro-item plan. His only attempt at scum hunting has been a half arsed case against Tobon while he accused people left and right in his town filter. His analysis doesn't look like town who found scum, but more like scum who doesn't want to take any responsibility. The case is safe as Tobon has already been pushed/tunneled for ages by Nemesis and a little by a couple of other people (including me). Before the Tobon case he says that syllogism looks scummiest of the risk.nuke check-trio, but instead he tries to push Tobon even though it doesn't look like he's really hooked on Tobon being scum with the conclusion "these things make me suspect that Tobon is scum". While the first part of this post looks like he cares about town, he never follows up on it. There's no frustration that day2 sucked because we didn't listen to his advice or any attempts at organizing town. Also, wherebugsgo thought he was scum and wherebugsgo is a good kid. ##Pull MrZentor
I hate being misinterpreted. I REALLY hate being misinterpreted.
Day1 he spent arguing so much about the Palmar-item plan that he forgot to even try to scum hunt and he didn't vote at all.
I spent the first half of day one trying to explain why the Palmar item-plan was a horrible plan. You can't do much to hunt scum on the first day, besides tunneling, which I hate, so I had planned on scum hunting during the second half of the day. I also was planning on voting, but irl things came up, as I have said countless times.
Day2 he supported the Cephiro-item plan. His only attempt at scum hunting has been a half arsed case against Tobon while he accused people left and right in his town filter.
I supported the Cephiro-item plan, because it would give us an item and kill a scum. Cephiro also seemed to think he wouldn't be affected by the nullify ability. When I made my first post, Tobon seemed really scummy, so I promised to make a case on him. Later on he seemed less scummy, but I felt compelled to make the case because I said I would. I have two people who I think are scum, besides syllogism. I just like watching the people without telling them, so they make mistakes, which makes it easier to prove that they're scum. Also, which town filter are you using? I purposely acted like scum as town in one of my games
Before the Tobon case he says that syllogism looks scummiest of the risk.nuke check-trio, but instead he tries to push Tobon even though it doesn't look like he's really hooked on Tobon being scum with the conclusion "these things make me suspect that Tobon is scum".
I thought it was pretty obvious Syllogism was by far the scummiest player; I just thought it would be good to have somebody else to kill after syllogism.
While the first part of this post looks like he cares about town, he never follows up on it. There's no frustration that day2 sucked because we didn't listen to his advice or any attempts at organizing town.
I let day two go, because it wasn't really town's fault that there was chaos(darkness), unlike day one, when town was just retarded. I do expect much better organization today.
Also, wherebugsgo thought he was scum and wherebugsgo is a good kid.
<3 WBG
##Pull MrZentor
It really seems quite rash to pull me on the first page of day three, before you even let me respond. Wouldn't it have been better to wait until the second half of today before pulling anybody, so you can get more information on people and pull actual scum?
<insert disappoint face here >
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On April 06 2012 19:19 prplhz wrote:
syllogism, Bluelightz, Mr. Wiggles, Mattchew
in that order
the lynch/pop is town's primary weapon against scum and we're done wasting them on stupid plans that we have seen are vulnerable to scum interference
just push/pull that list
we pull as many of them as we can off the bottom edge and put as many of them as we can 3 places into the red zone, maybe over the top edge if you guys want to but i don't think that they can help it if they're 3 places into the red zone.
did you notice that town didn't manage to get anybody killed the first two days?
Hey prplhz, mind explaining why you just hastily pulled MrZentor when last thing yesterday you were advocating 4 other people as scum and also the prudent use of pops? WTF?!
Typing is a pain from my ipad in a cafe... so not much else. MrZentor is not high on my priority list. That still consists of Syllo and Bluelightz, who I feel we should kill today. I don't much like the look of cascades, BillMurray or Mattchew's filter either. Although apparently BM plays this way normally? MrZentor looks more like bored and uninterested town than scum... useless, but a real waste of using pops on him.
If Mattchew throws Syllo, we can start pushing someone else (bluelightz), otherwise just push syllo to the fire and be done with him.
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Ninja'd.
Btw I forgot about blue's last post... not having notes here sucks. Mattchew still seems more scummy to me than bluelightz, but I guess we should get him to throw syllo before we lynch him 
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