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cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
April 08 2012 08:25 GMT
#1401
Waste less pops moving Dickzor. It's the logical choice.

Also, less wasted pulls, since ceph and prp already wasted theirs. "preferably in the direction the person we want to lynch has to move." So town can waste more pulls so we may end up with not enough pulls to get someone off the edge? No.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
April 08 2012 14:18 GMT
#1402
Okay. The pushes on Mattchew are kinda silly. Prplhz is making sense when saying he would never claim as scum when it is a hidden ability. He could use that in such super scum favored way and we would never know he did it. His play have just been very poor so we don't really know. Flipping him is okay-ish maybe...

Here are my town reads:

Snarfs
Prplhz
Nemesis
Acrofales
Cephiro
Risk.nuke
Dirkzor

I'm pretty sure I'm right about that list.

So the 5 scum should be easy to find in the remaining people.

Syllo is a given.

Wiggles is clearly also scum. If you read his filter you can see he isn't interested in finding any scum. Most of his posts are talking about roles and how they function. Not one analysis post in there. he spends many o' post talking about the potential vig from night 1 and how he should claim. As scum (if scum had 2 KP) its an easy subject since you don't have to have an actual opinion about a player, you just need an opinion about how the roles should behave. That is the same as scum or town so its safe to talk about. As scum he would also know that no one would claim and that would just confuse town even more.
As scum (if there is a town vig) it is still good for them to know who the vig is and the same applies that it is a safe topic.

Now Wiggles is cooking some stupid plan to make town waste PoP on something we already know. Wiggles is scum. He is just trying to get himself checked with someone else so he can implicate that other person as scum. Its a desperation move and we shouldn't do it.

"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
April 08 2012 15:03 GMT
#1403
I'm considering using my PoPs on wiggles and Mattchew
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
April 08 2012 15:31 GMT
#1404
BM, why do you think I should use my abillity now?
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 08 2012 15:31 GMT
#1405
Hey guys the lynch is in like 12 hours and we have tons of stuff to do. There are at least 6 people who have said that Mr. Wiggles is scummy so start pulling him off the board, and then follow up with MrZentor.

I really doubt we're going to reach consensus on another push lynch (since people tend to favor Mattchew who looks pretty town to me) so maybe we should just push syllogism off the edge.

We don't want another no lynch today, please.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 08 2012 15:34 GMT
#1406
On April 09 2012 00:31 prplhz wrote:
Hey guys the lynch is in like 12 hours and we have tons of stuff to do. There are at least 6 people who have said that Mr. Wiggles is scummy so start pulling him off the board, and then follow up with MrZentor.

I really doubt we're going to reach consensus on another push lynch (since people tend to favor Mattchew who looks pretty town to me) so maybe we should just push syllogism off the edge.

We don't want another no lynch today, please.


So you're going to try to kill me even though I've shown why I'm not scummy?
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
April 08 2012 15:45 GMT
#1407
We need to move me. It will cost several pushs/pulls but it will be worth it.
+ Show Spoiler [Queue] +
24.[_________][_________]
23.[_________][_________]
22.[_________][_________]
21.[_________][_________]
20.[_________][_________]
19.[Item_____][_________]
18.[syllogism][_________]
17.[_________][_________]
16.[_________][_________]
15.[_________][_________]
14.[Snarfs][Mattchew]
13.[prplhz][_________]
12.[Cephiro][_________]
11.[Bluelightz][_________]
10.[Tobon][_________]
9.[Dirkzor][____________]
8.[Mr.Wiggles][risk.nuke]
7.[Acrofales][Nemesis]
6.[Bill Murray][_________]
5.[Mr.Zentor][cascades]
4.[_________][_________]
3.[_________][_________]
2.[_________][_________]
1.[_________][_________]

What do you think of moving me to [15] and dt check Mattchew.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
April 08 2012 16:08 GMT
#1408
I think we should stop with these stupid plans. It just wastes our PoP and scum can easily interfere with it with their nullify.

Also, don't forget that there is probably a GF this game too. Mrwiggles suggesting to scan him first makes me think that he is most likely the GF. Also, scanning him would just waste PoP to move people plus risk.nuke won't be able to use his PoP so that's another PoP gone. Let's just lynch him for now, then we can worry about his teammates later.


Also, why is it suddenly so inactive today? ANYONE HERE?
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
April 08 2012 16:19 GMT
#1409
Sorry, took a day off to nurse a pounding headache.

Obviously prplhz isn't lying about the claim and noone seems to think he is since that'd be really bad.

I'm going to pull Mr. Wiggles. I haven't decided who to push yet. I agree with prplhz views that Mattchew wouldn't out his anonymous ability as scum. It doesn't make sense.

I think I'd still be fine with pushing Bluelightz. Pressure's been off him now for over a day and the only thing he provides is a "I'm considering using my PoPs on wiggles and Mattchew"? No town reads, no scum reads (besides the two of course). So if supports their for a BL kill I'm down with that too.

BM, still undecided now. Your power seems a little underwhelming if it really is one shot as you claim and seem to have proven. Also, you have some very illogical posts at times, but that's no scum tell. Just an observation.

I'd also be fine with a MrZentor kill.

##Pull Mr. Wiggles

Finally, I agree with stopping wasting PoPs on stupid plans. Let's just kill 3 people and then find out if we were right that way. risk.nuke has a great power but it's not worth using it in ways that aren't actually going to confirm anything.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 08 2012 16:21 GMT
#1410
I don't oppose risk.nuke's plan at all. We will never decide on pushing another play (other than syllogism) so using 5 pushes on risk.nuke and have him check into that bunch is a decent plan.

##Push risk.nuke

Doesn't matter if scum use nullify because risk.nuke will never be in danger of anything. This plan is decent and it's going to help town a lot.

People need to start using PoPs (and for something useful).
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
April 08 2012 16:22 GMT
#1411
Hmm and lol just as I say that I have a thought. If it only took 3 pushes to get risk.nuke in position, would people do it?
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
April 08 2012 16:22 GMT
#1412
Hold up prplhz.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 08 2012 16:24 GMT
#1413
I just don't see what else you guys want to use your PoPs on and checking into Mattchew/Cephiro/prplhz/Snarfs is a really good check with the current state of things (no general consensus on Mattchew).

I see that it would be a problem if we wasted PoPs, but we're only going to use pushes and those aren't really going to go to anything else. We can't even decide on pulling Mr. Wiggles or MrZentor, how are we ever going to agree on pushing anybody?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
April 08 2012 16:26 GMT
#1414
On April 09 2012 01:24 prplhz wrote:
I just don't see what else you guys want to use your PoPs on and checking into Mattchew/Cephiro/prplhz/Snarfs is a really good check with the current state of things (no general consensus on Mattchew).

I see that it would be a problem if we wasted PoPs, but we're only going to use pushes and those aren't really going to go to anything else. We can't even decide on pulling Mr. Wiggles or MrZentor, how are we ever going to agree on pushing anybody?

Sure thing. Just reducing the number of pushes need to 3. Everybody hold up a minute on pushes on risk.nuke.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
April 08 2012 16:32 GMT
#1415
Also I need to go and get ready for some family Easter things, but prplhz knows what we're doing (as do I'm sure most people) so just listen to him.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-08 16:36:58
April 08 2012 16:36 GMT
#1416
Day 3 queue
+ Show Spoiler +

24.[_________][_________]
23.[_________][_________]
22.[_________][_________]
21.[_________][_________]
20.[_________][_________]
19.[Item_____][_________]
18.[syllogism][_________]
17.[_________][_________]
16.[_________][_________]

15.[Mattchew][_________]
14.[_________][_________]
13.[prplhz][_________]
12.[Cephiro][Snarfs]
11.[Bluelightz][_________]
10.[Tobon][_________]
9.[Dirkzor]risk.nuke]
8.[_________][_________]
7.[Acrofales][Nemesis]
6.[Bill Murray][Mr.Wiggles]
5.[Mr.Zentor][cascades]
4.[_________][_________]
3.[_________][_________]
2.[_________][_________]
1.[_________][_________]


PoPs
+ Show Spoiler +

Mr.Wiggles
Bluelightz
risk.nuke
Dirkzor
Mattchew
Snarfs Pull Mr.Wiggles
Cephiro Push Mattchew Pull cascades
Tobon
syllogism
Mr.Zentor
prplhz Pull MrZentor Push risk.nuke
Acrofales
Bill Murray Push Mattchew
cascades
Nemesis



15 Toys remain, 5 gone bad.
Day 3 ends on Monday, April 9th at 04:00 GMT (+00:00) (12:00AM ET) 8.5 hours from now


Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
April 08 2012 16:38 GMT
#1417
Lets stop with damn plans... we can kill 3 scum today. We pull wiggles off the board and push BL.To be fair I'm still unsure about BL but his super lurkyness is making him more and more scummy. He is not really close to being on my town list so I'm fine with him dying.

Can everyone agree with this? Means that we kill syllo, BL and Wiggles today

##Pull Mr. Wiggles
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 08 2012 16:40 GMT
#1418
I'm fine with that.

Gonna go outside for a while.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
April 08 2012 16:47 GMT
#1419
Okey, I'll use my abillity now on tobon and dirkzor.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 08 2012 16:52 GMT
#1420
scum can push me up 1 pretty easy. I am fine with risk.nuke checking me.

##pull Mr. Wiggles

I like Dirkzors plan and think theres probably 2 (if not 3) scum in his list
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
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