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Bluelightz - Wouldn't really go as far as calling him a certain scum, but he plays poorly enough that I don't have anything against getting him killed atm. About his ability, he'd better be off telling us that 1 safe spot out of 3, so we'll narrow the bomb to one of the remaining two. Horrible PoP usage yesterday, one pretty much OMGUS and one not at all. Up your play or get killed.
risk.nuke - Please contribute more. Even if what you claim is true and your ability helps the town a lot, there's still so much more you can do by actively scumhunting.
Mattchew - Hasn't really done anything useful. Very eagerly likes to start pushing townies towards the flames. (He was one of the first ones to pull Palmar & push VE, the thing which makes it stand out for me is his lack of other contribution and the way he just instantly used his PoPs, giving at least me the feeling that he didn't bother thinking about possible outcomes at all.) Was vouching for Palmar to get the item somewhat loudly, didn't show consideration of other possibilities at all.
layabout - I want at least proof of your claim that you do not have any PoP as someone pointed out, so please show it to us now that D2 has started. I'm having a hard time believing you have no PoP at all unless you have a very strong ability to make up for it.
syllogism - After checking the day post, I know that syllo is scum, no need for me even to analyse his filter. I will spoiler some things below however. Also, just watch him start to try and get me killed now that I am absolutely certain he is Evil.
+ Show Spoiler +On April 01 2012 18:21 syllogism wrote:
There is absolutely no reason why we shouldn't implement a voting system of sorts. Even if there are some issues with some people not cooperating, it will still produce useful information. Further, everyone should be forced to explain their reasons for pushing or pulling someone as it's quite likely there are also scum powers who need to PoP to use their ability and a free for all just allows hiding such actions. I found the bolded interesting. Are you meaning abilities alike Hulk Toy's extra strong PoPs or something else? I'd clarification on this. Also, you say that everyone should be forced to explain their reasons for PoPing someone. However, I find your reasoning to push BM extremely lacking. He also pushes for Bill Murray, with his only reason that he believes the roleclaim to be unlikely/fake. The only thing he "co-operates" with others by doing this, is when he asks if anyone is up for a BM lynch. After pretty much no responses, he proceeds to waste his push anyway. If you read his filter, you can also see that he isn't actively pressuring anyone, but mostly standing aside and just laughing off any suspicions pointed at him. He hasn't been actively scumhunting at all, but he sure finds the time to laugh at any fingers pointed at him.
prplhz - Is very against Palmar getting the item, but later considers me very scummy due to the same reason, with the only difference that I was slightly more vocal about it. Keeps dodging wherebugsgo's questions after he points out this contradiction, as well as refuses to provide detailed reasoning why he is so sure about syllogism being town. He tries to get me lynched, but after seeing town supporting me, he quickly changes his mind about tunnelling me and starts buddying up with me, pointing out how I now suddenly seem more town to him. After this he proceeds to pull sbrubbles (Town).
If you're going to call me out, please be more creative than everyone else so far, we don't need more Captain Obviouses to point out I was very against Palmar getting the item, you're not going to get any further by constantly bringing that up.
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I still have a few persons I want to point out a few things about, but I thought I'll post that for now.
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On April 04 2012 13:49 Tobon wrote:EBWOP: Congratulations Nemesis! If you are lucky, your 3-push may already have killed me! 
Hopefully the flamethrower grew so there's an even better chance 
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On April 04 2012 13:53 Snarfs wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2012 13:49 Tobon wrote:EBWOP: Congratulations Nemesis! If you are lucky, your 3-push may already have killed me! Hopefully the flamethrower grew so there's an even better chance
Ah, I'd forgotten about that wrinkle. So are you in the Tobon-is-scum camp, Snarfs? Cuz I'm not.
If we get one scum along with me dying, that would be a fair trade, but obviously I'd prefer to live through the day, so I'm at your disposal should you have any questions. You too, Bugs.
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Nemesis, Snarfs, Tobon, wbg, I would already have 5 pushes if you all pushed me towards the lethal zone. Taking into account that stacks are likely, and that the flamethrower is probably bigger, I am fairly sure I should be able to at least get very close to the item if not reach it if you all pushed me.
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Morning. If I see someone mentioning even once that I "wasted my push", I'm going be quite upset. Cephiro you are even a +2 GMT person and you are still pushing that drivel, what gives?
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On April 04 2012 13:57 syllogism wrote:
Morning. If I see someone mentioning even once that I "wasted my push", I'm going be quite upset. Cephiro you are even a +2 GMT person and you are still pushing that drivel, what gives?
I want to get you killed. That gives.
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Yes, you have been wanting that since the game began
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On April 04 2012 13:57 Cephiro wrote:
Nemesis, Snarfs, Tobon, wbg, I would already have 5 pushes if you all pushed me towards the lethal zone. Taking into account that stacks are likely, and that the flamethrower is probably bigger, I am fairly sure I should be able to at least get very close to the item if not reach it if you all pushed me.
What I'm wondering right now is whether it's better to trust you and push you toward the item or push someone I think is scum.
First of all, you aren't confirmed town until you die. (if syllo flips scum it's actually still remotely possible you're scum as well, though I find that extraordinarily unlikely). As syllo hasn't flipped yet, what I'd rather do is kill syllo first, then determine whether or not you're trustworthy.
Problem with this?
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On April 04 2012 13:59 syllogism wrote:
Yes, you have been wanting that since the game began
Nope, that is false. Only since risk.nuke's Cop claim and your reaction to it. And especially now that Sbrubbles is dead, I know for 100% certainty that you are Evil. The only possible way that is not the case is if the Evil Toys have a framer (highly unlikely?), or risk.nuke fakeclaimed (doesn't seem very likely either?). So that leaves me the option of getting you killed.
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Do not push scumphiro to the item. Why would he even suggest that as town? He gives a very weak explanation for not being afraid of the nullify power or any other power that could possibly kill him. He isn't afraid because he knows there is nothing to be afraid of.
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On April 04 2012 14:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
What I'm wondering right now is whether it's better to trust you and push you toward the item or push someone I think is scum.
First of all, you aren't confirmed town until you die. (if syllo flips scum it's actually still remotely possible you're scum as well, though I find that extraordinarily unlikely). As syllo hasn't flipped yet, what I'd rather do is kill syllo first, then determine whether or not you're trustworthy.
Problem with this? Problem is rule 15.
15. Dead player's roles and alignment are not revealed until the end of the day phase. It makes things harder for us, unfortunately.
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On April 04 2012 14:01 Cephiro wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2012 13:59 syllogism wrote:
Yes, you have been wanting that since the game began Nope, that is false. Only since risk.nuke's Cop claim and your reaction to it. And especially now that Sbrubbles is dead, I know for 100% certainty that you are Evil. The only possible way that is not the case is if the Evil Toys have a framer (highly unlikely?), or risk.nuke fakeclaimed (doesn't seem very likely either?). So that leaves me the option of getting you killed.
No, that is correct because that is me saying you are a bad, bad toy.
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On April 04 2012 14:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
What I'm wondering right now is whether it's better to trust you and push you toward the item or push someone I think is scum.
First of all, you aren't confirmed town until you die. (if syllo flips scum it's actually still remotely possible you're scum as well, though I find that extraordinarily unlikely). As syllo hasn't flipped yet, what I'd rather do is kill syllo first, then determine whether or not you're trustworthy.
Problem with this?
I know I am not confirmed town, even if I managed to get syllo killed. I have no problem with this, however if I get enough support I would like you to consider twice about helping me in my plan. That way you will be able to use your pulls on another scum.
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On April 04 2012 14:02 syllogism wrote:
No, that is correct because that is me saying you are a bad, bad toy.
Just as I knew, the moment I saw the daypost I knew you would just start trying to convince everyone I am scum, because that's all you can do. You're basically out, and now you're just trying to get 1 more townie down before you die, simple as that. Scared of me getting the item, or scared of me going to the lethal area?
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On April 04 2012 14:01 syllogism wrote:
Do not push scumphiro to the item. Why would he even suggest that as town? He gives a very weak explanation for not being afraid of the nullify power or any other power that could possibly kill him. He isn't afraid because he knows there is nothing to be afraid of.
Who said I am not afraid of the possibility I might die? At the moment after weighing all the possibilities, the reward is far greater than the risk.
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On April 04 2012 14:05 Cephiro wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2012 14:02 syllogism wrote:
No, that is correct because that is me saying you are a bad, bad toy. Just as I knew, the moment I saw the daypost I knew you would just start trying to convince everyone I am scum, because that's all you can do. You're basically out, and now you're just trying to get 1 more townie down before you die, simple as that. Scared of me getting the item, or scared of me going to the lethal area?
This is such a stupid post
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Hey risk.nuke, do you get to use your power again today?
If we can, we should put some people we want to check into next to him, and get him to check. We could also 1-1 trade syllo or Ceph by checking them alone to get the scum, and then if the one determined to be scum flips town, flipping risk.nuke. Unless they're a miller, I don't see a reason for them to appear as scum on day 1, if risk is telling the truth.
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On April 04 2012 14:07 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Hey risk.nuke, do you get to use your power again today?
If we can, we should put some people we want to check into next to him, and get him to check. We could also 1-1 trade syllo or Ceph by checking them alone to get the scum, and then if the one determined to be scum flips town, flipping risk.nuke. Unless they're a miller, I don't see a reason for them to appear as scum on day 1, if risk is telling the truth.
And how exactly do we know who is next to him?
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On April 04 2012 14:06 syllogism wrote:
This is such a stupid post
You're too predictable syllo. All game long you've been just laughing whenever someone points fingers at you, and telling how bad players that don't push for your scum agenda are. I'm sorry, but you're not going to be able to discredit me with your "He is bad/stupid" -posts, all you're doing is making yourself more confirmed scum in the eyes of others for being so ignorant.
You haven't done anything useful for town this game, and people can see that.
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