EPTOn April 02 2012 13:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
So Bugs is confirmed scum, maybe Wiggles.
Anyone wanna check my math?
So Bugs is confirmed scum, maybe Wiggles.
Anyone wanna check my math?
rofl what
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wherebugsgo
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Bill Murray
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Bill Murray
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at least I have provided WBG with a townread on VE and snarfs, because I know he believes me | ||
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VisceraEyes
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Something's going on with you, I'm just sayin. I'M JUST SAYING GUY | ||
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VisceraEyes
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VisceraEyes
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##Push: Bluelightz | ||
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Ace
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+ Show Spoiler + 24.[Item] [___________] 23.[___________] [___________] 22.[Palmar] [___________] 21.[___________] [___________] 20.[___________][___________] 19.[___________] [___________] 18.[___________] [___________] 17.[Mr.Wiggles] [___________] 16.[cascades] [Nemesis] 15. [Dirkzor] [Mr.Zentor] 14.[VisceraEyes] [Bill Murray] 13.[Snarfs][Tobon] 12.[wherebugsgo][prplhz] 11. [Acrofales][___________] 10.[Mattchew][___________] 9. [layabout][Bluelightz] 8. [Sbrubbles][___________] 7. [risk.nuke][syllogism] 6. [Cephiro][___________] 5. [___________][___________] 4. [___________][___________] 3. [___________] [___________] 2. [___________] [___________] 1. [___________] [___________] PoPs - Day 1 + Show Spoiler + Mr.Wiggles Bluelightz VisceraEyes Pull Palmar Push Bluelightz risk.nuke Sbrubbles Dirkzor Mattchew Pull Palmar Snarfs Cephiro Tobon wherebugsgo layabout syllogism Mr.Zentor prplhz Acrofales Bill Murray Pull Palmar cascadesPull Palmar Palmar Nemesis Push Tobon | ||
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wherebugsgo
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On April 02 2012 13:21 VisceraEyes wrote: I don't know man, you're being all like careful and diplomatic and shit. Being reasonable is a scumtell with you Bugs. You haven't called me or Palmar scum or retarded once yet. And to top it off, you mistakenly "thought" that it takes 15 pushes to lynch Blue. Something's going on with you, I'm just sayin. I'M JUST SAYING GUY lol. figures. I didn't mistakenly think it takes 15 to kill Bluelightz; I thought it took at least 13 (21-8 = 13) but that was because I forgot about the stack mechanic thingy. As for "being reasonable = scum" I'm not even going to bother arguing that, because my demeanor has nothing to do with my alignment. My agenda is the only thing that reflects my alignment. I'm going to finalize my push since I go back to school tomorrow. ##push Bluelightz | ||
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Tobon
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On April 02 2012 12:01 Nemesis wrote: Time to actually give out my scumreads so far: Right now I'm looking at Tobon. First thing he does is proposing the secondary voting system. While that by itself is not really scummy even though I disagree with it, his next posts I find are rather bad. Already explained that I wasn't suggesting it, I was bringing it up to start discussion. In the same sentence that I "proposed" it, I also said that it failed to go anywhere. On April 02 2012 12:01 Nemesis wrote: Note how he takes an extremely neutral stance here. He finds Palmar suspicious for his role which is similar to a role in the previous game, but then he adds that it is unlikely that Ace would give scum the same roles. This sounds to me like a scum trying to put suspicion onto someone while avoiding responsibility for it. Just overly wordy on my part. The important point is that Palmar very likely has the entire queue flip once-per-game power. On April 02 2012 12:01 Nemesis wrote: Again he stresses how we don't know Palmar's alignment. Yeah, so? I'd shrug and chalk this up to pressure except for the push. The push was completely wasteful. There's no feeling I've noticed on anyone else's part that I might be scum, so why would you throw away your push with more than 24 hours to go? Shouldn't you be trying to build a case or convince other people, while seeing what other people do as well, and then use your PoPs more productively nearer the deadline? As it is, this really comes across as an excuse to use up your push so you won't be responsible for going against majority town's choice when it comes. FoS: Nemesis. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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Wiggles, I don't know what you're doing, but your one piece of advice from last game was "let's make a conscious effort to not wind people up this game" and you seem to be attempting to wind me up. It's contradictory man, and I don't like it. And to all you lurkers out there... + Show Spoiler [I got somethin for ya] + ![[image loading]](http://www.likecool.com/Gear/Toy/Death%20by%20Lego/Death-by-Lego-1.jpg) | ||
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Tobon
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On April 02 2012 13:09 VisceraEyes wrote: Or Nemisis is a super-strong double-pushing toy. Very interesting. VERY. Seems unlikely, scum or town, wouldn't Nemesis have mentioned what was about to happen when it's his own action doing it? Anyway, @VE: did you expect something interesting to happen with your "Hold on a second." push of Bluelightz, or are you that sure of your scum vote already? You and Bugs using up PoPs so early in the day bothers me, although at least there's been discussion on the target of them. | ||
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Ace
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+ Show Spoiler + 24.[Item] [___________] 23.[___________] [___________] 22.[Palmar] [___________] 21.[___________] [___________] 20.[___________][___________] 19.[___________] [___________] 18.[___________] [___________] 17.[Mr.Wiggles] [___________] 16.[cascades] [Nemesis] 15. [Dirkzor] [Mr.Zentor] 14.[VisceraEyes] [Bill Murray] 13.[Snarfs][Tobon] 12.[wherebugsgo][prplhz] 11. [Acrofales][___________] 10.[Mattchew][Bluelightz] 9. [layabout][___________] 8. [Sbrubbles][___________] 7. [risk.nuke][syllogism] 6. [Cephiro][___________] 5. [___________][___________] 4. [___________][___________] 3. [___________] [___________] 2. [___________] [___________] 1. [___________] [___________] PoPs - Day 1 + Show Spoiler + Mr.Wiggles Bluelightz VisceraEyes Pull Palmar Push Bluelightz risk.nuke Sbrubbles Dirkzor Mattchew Pull Palmar Snarfs Cephiro Tobon wherebugsgo Push Bluelightz layabout syllogism Mr.Zentor prplhz Acrofales Bill Murray Pull Palmar cascadesPull Palmar Palmar Nemesis Push Tobon | ||
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Snarfs
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Probably only going to post this once then head to bed so I'm not too exhausted for work tomorrow. Really interesting for me to see people pushing and pulling without giving reasons and getting away with it I.E. cascades. Pulling Palmar "as a rolecheck" and in doing so acting against his own wishes that people not use their PoPs lightly? Hopefully I'm not the only one who sees how terrible it would be for town to let people get away with this. Laying down my push here as I think this is the most scummy thing that's happened in this game so far and I want to size up reactions. ##Push cascades I'm also slightly suspicious of Bill Murray's claim, if both he and VE are mafia it would be a decent way to "confirm" both of them as town, using me as a pawn; or if BM is scum just trying to gain some cred. Sort of WIFOM though so I will just add that BM claiming that he'd die to verify mine and VE's alignment makes me want to say that they are most likely both town as well, but again, nothing is confirmed. The math mistake by wbg does not make him scum  . On the other hand, his pointing out that a town Palmar could very well be pushed off the edge by scum seems like quite a towny thing to bring up. Wbg and VE agreeing that Bluelightz is scum, I see as a good thing, especially since they both seem town (not a contradiction to my last paragraph, read closer), we may have found 2 scum already on day 1. Now though, I think that we should push cascades into the incinerator as he's closer and he's just as scummy as Bluelightz. | ||
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wherebugsgo
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On April 02 2012 14:14 Snarfs wrote: Home now, just got caught up reading the thread. Probably only going to post this once then head to bed so I'm not too exhausted for work tomorrow. Really interesting for me to see people pushing and pulling without giving reasons and getting away with it I.E. cascades. Pulling Palmar "as a rolecheck" and in doing so acting against his own wishes that people not use their PoPs lightly? Hopefully I'm not the only one who sees how terrible it would be for town to let people get away with this. Laying down my push here as I think this is the most scummy thing that's happened in this game so far and I want to size up reactions. ##Push cascades I'm also slightly suspicious of Bill Murray's claim, if both he and VE are mafia it would be a decent way to "confirm" both of them as town, using me as a pawn; or if BM is scum just trying to gain some cred. Sort of WIFOM though so I will just add that BM claiming that he'd die to verify mine and VE's alignment makes me want to say that they are most likely both town as well, but again, nothing is confirmed. The math mistake by wbg does not make him scum . On the other hand, his pointing out that a town Palmar could very well be pushed off the edge by scum seems like quite a towny thing to bring up. Wbg and VE agreeing that Bluelightz is scum, I see as a good thing, especially since they both seem town (not a contradiction to my last paragraph, read closer), we may have found 2 scum already on day 1. Now though, I think that we should push cascades into the incinerator as he's closer and he's just as scummy as Bluelightz.if you thought Bluelightz is scum,why the hell would you waste your push on cascades? I'm just wtfing and this logic right now | ||
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Snarfs
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if you thought Bluelightz is scum,why the hell would you waste your push on cascades? I'm just wtfing and this logic right now I said he's just as scummy and he's closer to the incinerator. | ||
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syllogism
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wherebugsgo
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On April 02 2012 14:21 syllogism wrote: How is using a pull as a rolecheck wasteful? Pulls can generally only be used to "save" someone, which isn't particularly towny as especially early on that means using your power against the wishes of the majority. Furthermore, since then people have been pulling palmar towards the item quite "lightly"; are they too suspicious? syllo, would you kill Bluelightz right now? Who are you going to push? | ||
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Tobon
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I'm also provisionally believing BM, which means he, VE and Snarfs are provisionally town. I like Acrofales's filter so far, Cephiro's too, although I wish there was more of it. Null reads on others. More talk from more people needed. Come on good toys, more activity! | ||
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Snarfs
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On April 02 2012 14:21 syllogism wrote: How is using a pull as a rolecheck wasteful? Pulls can generally only be used to "save" someone, which isn't particularly towny as especially early on that means using your power against the wishes of the majority. Furthermore, since then people have been pulling palmar towards the item quite "lightly"; are they too suspicious? It's the way he said it. Saying that it wasn't the best use of a PoP, but he didn't really care. Plus, seriously, if he was going to lie about that it would be found out pretty damn fast by someone who actually was in favour of pushing him towards the item. Hence, it makes sense from people like VE and Mattchew, because they've at least expressed interest in him getting the item. Also, look at cascades entire post. It's pure fluff plus this rolecheck which I thought was pointless. | ||
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