EPTThe Sum of All Fears Mafia - Page 53
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
That seemed like a taunt to us, and if he was medic he would protect you knowing scum would fall to that trick. But well, luckily he didn't. P.S: We are still waiting for you to eat your hat BH  | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
gg srsly. Thx Hosts for game - was fun. I think it was a little balanced in favor of scum though. | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
I was always thinking "Damn, maybe the Obs QT figured all 4 of us out by now " or something EDIT: Was my case on Blue that bad? lol I would have probably pushed him by the same reasons even if I was town. Like, I think I linked (in the scum QT) to a post that I was gonna make, where Blue posted EXACTLY like in Aperture. Poor Blue convinced me not to post it | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
 Well played Gonzaw. We had you pegged early but changed wrongly >_> That is twice you have done that to me  ET you were so transparent. I don't know if you read slOosh's last game but I used exactly the same argument against him as scum. So if you were reading his meta you would know that your case didn't make sense because he was town that game. His meta actually said the exact opposite of what you were saying. DYH had it easy coming in late. Scum replacements are almost impossible to deal with because they are always replaced for inactivity. Thus as long as they post they are an improvement. MrZentor, I don't know what you were planning on achieving with your gambit but it failed miserably. The only way you could defend yourself was to point out scum would never do what you were doing. That is not a defense as it rests on WIFOM and so town were right to lynch you. slOosh you were beast mode this game though you were wrong about Sinensis but you were right about Blue and ET. I love your new style. I think overall this was a game where scum were well organised and executed their plans. Town derped to high heaven. The C_C lynch made no sense to me and once scum nuked BH (how? that shit was crazy) and shot VE the game was pretty much won. Well played mafia team. | ||
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slOosh
3291 Posts
I am sadface at town play. MrZentor's trolling and Sinensis' giving up didn't really do anything for us. Will read MafiaQT when I get time. | ||
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
On April 04 2012 07:29 gonzaw wrote: I see that the Obs QT followed the same logic as the people in the thread though. I was always thinking "Damn, maybe the Obs QT figured all 4 of us out by now " or something EDIT: Was my case on Blue that bad? lol I would have probably pushed him by the same reasons even if I was town. Like, I think I linked (in the scum QT) to a post that I was gonna make, where Blue posted EXACTLY like in Aperture. Poor Blue convinced me not to post it It was more the fact that you went after Blue for acting like Blue. He is such an easy target that you of all people going after him looked scummy. How did you know BH was blue? That nuke was a hell of a risky play and the fact you managed to be right was amazing. | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
Apart from sloosh I didn't see a town leader that could break us, and thankfully sloosh wasn't that active or pushed us too much when he was alive. But meh I think I've explained everything in the Scum QT, so if you guys have the time read it. EDIT: Would this be a bad case against Blue? And I didn't go against him because he was easy. I thought I was justified in going against him because I did the same thing on Aperture and I was right, so I would be "emotionally" biased against thinking Blue was scum because of the same reasons Here + Show Spoiler + Okay Bluelightz, I was hoping that if you were town you would respond to my posts and try to be as helpful as possible. I found your reaction to be the worst one possible. Okay people, this is why I think we should lych Blue: Here, take a look at his filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=322686&user=235418 And now look at the one from Aperture Mafia (he was scum there): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=319120&user=235418 See any similarities? Here: Aperture Mafia (scum): On March 17 2012 10:21 Bluelightz wrote: My eyes O_O, I think that Wiggles is town and trustable for the elections, vote for the wiggul cause! On March 17 2012 09:39 Bluelightz wrote: Adding to the discussion Should the person that gets elected should claim the power or not? I think that he should claim the powers if its anti-town but im open to other opinions :D. On March 17 2012 10:53 Bluelightz wrote: Its tempting to believe this because Kenpachi does this every game :O, any thoughts? Sum of All Fears: On March 27 2012 09:42 Bluelightz wrote: O_O AFAIK, I don't have nuff' information yet to make an educated guess at who is scum :p I can take a look at anyone if you want to, just ask  On March 27 2012 14:38 Bluelightz wrote: Sinensis, what do you think of Blazinghand now with his vote on Johhny? also srsly cool down we're all friends ==". On March 27 2012 23:46 Bluelightz wrote: Alright guys gonna go sleep for tonight, cya in the morning as a summary, C_C and cccalf, and possibly gonzaw I will vote for if you guys want to lynch him in the morning when I wake up, other lynch candidates I will review before voting.He has similar post patterns, like posting similes, being "friendly", not knowing what to do or acting disoriented. Here is his filter from Purgatory Mafia (town): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=298603&user=235418¤tpage=2 Actually, here, here's my "case" on him from Aperture, it's almost the same: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=319120¤tpage=53#1054 Here are more similarities: Aperture(scum): On March 17 2012 10:32 gonzaw wrote: Ehmm, don't see how asking that questions makes it feel he's not coordinated with other people. Seems like a question that's totally unrelated to his alignment. Apart from that I don't see how you can think he's town. Also, where is Paperscraps? He just disappeared shortly after VE's death. Could be a time-zone thing, but either way I want to know why he was convinced VE was 3rd party, and why he suddenly went AFK when he was "Excited to get started". On March 17 2012 10:24 Bluelightz wrote: @gonzaw Would mafia ask this question? I think that Wiggles is town based on that he is posting like not being coordinated with other people. Sum of All Fears: On March 27 2012 22:32 gonzaw wrote: @Bluelightz: You say ET is town and pressed people to post, do you have anything to back that up? Although I see you are posting lists now though On March 27 2012 22:55 Bluelightz wrote: @gonzaw about ET some example of well, not "pressing" but pushing for more people to post There, ET pushes Sinensis to post more of his thoughts. This is one of the reasons why I think he's town. Again, he posts a random town read on someone nobody would ever think is town by that point, and justifies it using very bad reasoning. You know what's the most damning? In Aperture you COMPLETELY ignored my case on you, you never mentioned it nor addressed it, not even when I was alive. Now you are doing the same, you are ignoring my case as well, you are ignoring my questions and my pressure. I think you should have tried to change your scum play, it would have been a little bit harder for me to find you: ##Vote: Bluelightz I messed up some quotes though. | ||
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
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zelblade
Australia901 Posts
Sorry for my horrible play =( | ||
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johnnywup
United States3858 Posts
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
See ET? :D | ||
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
That night really killed town. Along with the Zentor derp and slOosh being the only rational forthright townie left the game was pretty much over. I agree with VE that this was slightly scum favoured. Yes there were multiple blues but they were severely weakened. The chance of a succesful doctor protect would be miniscule. The only value in the DT is they can confirm people of their own alignment which is only useful for half the townies. The presence of the blues also made the nuke that much stronger as it was more likely to hit. | ||
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johnnywup
United States3858 Posts
Is it balanced having DTs as power roles if theres 2 gf roles? seems heavily in maf favor >< sorry for letting down my townmates  | ||
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
This is why you have to completely ignore who's a 'veteran' and who isn't, they're still just players in the game Figures I was right about VE being a soviet (see also, position in the graph) If it wasnt obvious, most of that graph was random, I threw VE and BH near me, and blue on scum Being right about Blue <3<3<3 If I was thinking on day 1 enough, my vote would have ended on blue, and the scientist would have been a power role. The rest of my day 1 could have been improved. | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
We didn't have a RBer for instance, so I don't know if it was that favored towards us. The Doctor thing seemed pretty weak though, but I think it was meant to be used when the other doctor died as 1-shot, not having both doctors alive through ALL the game blindly choosing who to save and hoping both choose the same target, and hoping scum kill that target themselves. | ||
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johnnywup
United States3858 Posts
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On April 04 2012 07:59 Cyber_Cheese wrote: I was going to congratulate VE on good scum play, before he flipped. This is why you have to completely ignore who's a 'veteran' and who isn't, they're still just players in the game Figures I was right about VE being a soviet (see also, position in the graph) If it wasnt obvious, most of that graph was random, I threw VE and BH near me, and blue on scum Being right about Blue <3<3<3 If I was thinking on day 1 enough, my vote would have ended on blue, and the scientist would have been a power role. The rest of my day 1 could have been improved. CHEESE IF YOU HAD PUT ONE IOTA OF EFFORT INTO THE FUCKING GAME.... ...................gg | ||
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