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I'm here too.
Now that I think about it, if I was SU Doctor I would never claim at this point, no matter if someone else (in this case Zentor) claimed it as well.
Once I get killed at night (and scum have a 100% chance of hitting me, assuming there are no other doctors), then it would reduce the number of SU players by 1, and rid town of any Doctors.
So yeah, the real doctor wouldn't counterclaim.
@froggy: If he's mafia, he got pinned down by me on N1, and decided to troll the hell out of D2 and fake-claim SU Doctor to draw the real doctor out, and survive one more day. This would mean that once the real doctor claims, they can off him and we will waste all D3 in lynching Zentor as well.
sloosh, I really hope you are right.
##Unvote: cccalf
##Vote: MrZentor
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There's the chance that if scum are on Zentor, they are not active at this point to change their votes.
There's also the chance scum are already on cccalf (Blue+Sinensis I'm looking at you).
Actually guys, I think Zentor is scum now, vote him
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@Nemensis: Vote Zentor, if not a scum from the Zentor wagon can unvote and we will NL.
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That would be even better than wasting a vig shot on him (although it doesn't sound very sportsmanlike >_> )
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Yes if he votes at the last minute he's scum, but we don't have time to switch all votes to him.
Also, if he's scum, he has now read this and will be sure to vote/post at :59.
If he does that we let a vig shoot him tonight, and if we don't have vigs we lynch him tomorrow.
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Am I the only one that pushes the "Reload" button? 
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Nah, sometimes I use F5, but only if I'm browsing tabs and want to refresh each one of them.
If I'm just using the mouse and the keyboard is away, I'm too lazy for that and just push the "reload" button
ctrl+r seems too complex lol!
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wtf? sloosh, I thought YOU were the SU Doctor!!
fuck
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sloosh, explain yourself. Why were you so sure he wasn't the SU Doctor, if nobody except ccalf had counterclaimed by that point?
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Ehm hosts, I think the SU Doctor role PM is a little bit off:
MrZentor, you are SU Doctor! Every night you may choose to protect one player other than yourself from NK. However, it takes great effort to protect someone which is why your protection will only work when you and your colleague - US Doctor - pick the same target. This restriction is removed when SU Doctor is killed, but you will become one-shot (be able to protect someone only once in the game). Your protection will also not be refunded if you fail to save someone. Neither you or the target will be informed upon the successful protect.
Don't forget you have to PM both Hassybaby and me.
You win when all threats to town are eliminated.
Shouldn't it say "US Doctor" in the bolded part?
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I thought ccc was getting modkilled 
Damn it DYH, you need to step up A LOT. I fully expect you to contribute and cooperate with us on D3, you need to make up for the 2 days ccc wasted
Since there are no medics left (I assume), tomorrow we are at LYLO almost 100%.
If there are any vigs left, then you ONLY should shoot if you are VERY confident your target is scum. If not, you will automatically lose us the game.
I think tonight the DTs should step up (maybe there is one SU DT and one US DT?), they may be the only thing that can make us win this game considering we still lose if the remaining 2 SU townies die as well.
I think it's clear that if you are SU, you don't claim your nationality under ANY circumstance. If a US DT/vet/vig/something dies, and in his role PM it's revealed that he has a SU counterpart, then if you have the counterpart roel you shouldn't claim your role at all, since it would imply you are SU.
If you are SU DT and have a scum check on someone, push him, make convincing cases and DON'T reveal you are DT, in the case the US DT dies.
This is assuming the power roles come in pairs, and if you are a SU power role you are informed of your pair in your role PM. If you aren't then feel free to claim your role if the situation needs it.
Even if we are on a roll and start lynching scum each day, all they need to do to win is kill 2 SUs in the span of 4 nights.
We need all the effort possible to win this after these past aweful days/nights, including from our remaining blues.
On April 01 2012 07:25 slOosh wrote:
This game is just depressing. We lynch a town vet because he is busy, the two other town vets go at each others throats and both die, one to a nuke I have no idea how it landed, and then another town decides to troll town hard and ends up flipping the last doctor.
If you guys think I'm scum let's play it out now. Otherwise we still have scum to hunt.
On April 01 2012 07:54 slOosh wrote:
All my reads were built upon the premise that MrZentor was scum. As you can imagine, I currently have absolutely no motivation to play and reconstruct reads, and the fact that D2 is half troll doesn't help either.
All I know how to do is explain myself - anything more I would have to read to give proper anything.
Wait, you say you have no motivation but you incite others to have enough motivation to catch the remaining scum?
Start "reconstructing reads" now.
You haven't posted many reads on D2, other than you thought Zentor was scum.
Would you be willing to lynch Blue or Sinensis tomorrow?
Other than those two, who do you find suspicious? Even if both Blue and Sinensis are scum, and even if ccalf was scum (so DYH is too), there would be 1 scum remaining.
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Actually vigs, I take that back.
You can shoot Bluelightz tonight.
He's very likely scum, and even though we risk automatically losing if he's town; it's not like we are in a much better position if you don't shoot him.
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Wtf Sinensis?
You've been tunneling cccalf since the beginning of D2, and haven't posted a single properly founded read nor any cases on the players you think are scum (or well, that are "suspicious" since you never stated you thought any was scum, with the exception of froggy/ccalf), and now you are telling us you will just keep your vote on DYH and do nothing on D3?
I can't believe Zentor said you were 38% scum or something.
Come on people! We can win this! Post reads and start discussion!
My 100% win streak is on the line
At least do me the favour and care more about the game guys
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If we are all unmotivated, then I guess we already lost then.
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EBWOP:
@Sinensis: What "analysis" are you talking about?
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What do the votes have to do with anything?
What about behaviour? What about posting style? What about people's reads and the reasoning they put behind them?
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Maybe the vigs work just like the Doctors do:
There is a SU one and a US one, and both of them have to target the same guy to make a kill.
In which case, if there is a US/SU vig, shoot Blue.
We don't want the SU one shooting him but the US one not, and viceversa.
C_C's case wasn't that good, here is mine:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=322686¤tpage=21#407
I don't have much to add to this case, considering Blue didn't do anything worthwhile since D1 (just check his filter)
Here is something I haven't noticed before:
On March 28 2012 14:06 Sinensis wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2012 14:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
No, scum are trying to mislynch you Blue. No biggie, it happens ^^ Every game I have played with Bluelightz this happens. I would go so far as to say voting for Bluelightz day 1 is a scum tell on TL mafia.
On March 31 2012 13:44 Sinensis wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 13:37 johnnywup wrote:
ladies and gentlemen, i present our host!
lol
Is situational voting allowed? In C9++ they weren't, so wondering
If they are allowed, I'm willing to vote for c3 if he votes and posts today, or if there is enough interest in it. at the moment zentor or ccc are ok votes by me.
and its very likely they're bussing him if hes scum, which i think he is. Show nested quote +Voting List (Updated up to March 31 2012 08:34)
[Format] Player with vote on him/her will be bolded; player with the majority will be red.
MrZentor (7): gonzaw, slOosh, EchelonTee, zelblade, johnnywup, froggynoddy, Nemesis
cccalf (2): Sinensis, Bluelightz
Sinensis (0): Nemesis froggynoddy
Not voted
MrZentor
cccalf Look. There are 7 votes for zentor. So unless me and/or Bluelightz are scum, which for the sake of this argument we are not, then there are three scum voting for MrZentor right now. Would mafia vote for mafia?
On April 01 2012 14:55 Sinensis wrote:
The votes have been so bad there is absolutely no way to get an alignment read on anyone. I am pretty sure Bluelightz is town, and I am pretty sure cccalf was noob mafia. That's it. Everything else is so beyond screwed up there is no sense to be made out of anyone. At this point johnnywup, Nemesis, and gonzaw could easily be scum too. Who the f knows.
Seriously?
Both tried VERY HARD to get cccalf killed, avoided ALL other disscussion, and either defend themselves without any justification(Sin->Blue), or are completely wishy washy regarding the other (Blue->Sin)
This is the plan then:
-Vig shoot Blue tonight
-We lynch Sinensis tomorrow.
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Yes, ET is one I had my eye upon a long time.
The thing is that we need to be VERY careful right now. We can't start spouting whole scumteams at this moment, since only 1 of them needs to be town for us to lose.
Check what happened on Newbie IV, everybody started posting whole scumteams, which were wrong, making the townies in those think the ones that posted were scum, and basicly losing town the game.
I think we need to focus on Sinensis (once Blue is vigged hopefully), and see how other people react to it. Remember that scum win with only 1 misslynch, so they might as well try their hardest to make that misslynch tomorrow.
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Yeah.
Although I think that if a SU flips tonight, we have practically lost >_>
p.s Happy birthday too!
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Ehmm, it's almost 100% sure a town will flip tonight, unless scum have mercy and No-Kill tonight.
The thing is that if it's a SU, then it's almost impossible that we can win, EVEN if we successfully lynch all scum.
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