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Total newbie here, this should be interesting. | ||
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This said, it's been 3 hours since we've gotten our roles, and no one has spoken yet. I'd like to see everyone at least post to confirm activity. Whoever doesn't start posting is already suspicious at worst, and useless at best. We don't want any mafia hiding among the lurkers. I'll personally support lynching an inactive unless something pretty big happens. Good luck to all, and may the most able survive! | ||
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Seviro (one useless post, but he's there) Rise of Fenix (one useless post calling me a townie for posting first, I want his opinion on day 1 lynching) Ninja4Ever (he did say he would post later) No one is entirely inactive, but most people seem to agree to lynch a lurker day 1. This means we have to start thinking about who to lynch if there's no convenient lurker. On Gossemer's early vote for Mementoss: He was q | ||
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On Gossemer's early vote for Mementoss: He was quick to accuse someone in SNMMVIII as well, where he played town. I think it's just a townie move to get discussions going. | ||
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- Admits to not reading the rules and says some really confused stuff about voting as a result - Accuses michaelthe due to his eagerness to lynch an inactive, when many have argued we should do this - Tells michaelthe he would vote for him if there were an unlynch in the game - Doesn't actually put in a vote for michaelthe once he knows he can unvote later, says he has no reads instead - Uses really short posts frequently I don't know if the guy is awful scum or awful townie. All I know is he's awful. If he's town, he'll be absolutely useless to us, but if he's mafia, he'll quickly give himself out on the 2nd day, at this pace. I'm putting my chips on bad townie for the moment. To Rise Of Fenix: You better come up with some real information as to why you acted like you acted (see above points), or else I WILL put my vote in for your lynch. --- Ninja4Ever. and sc2system seem to be our 2 big time lurkers at the moment. They, together with Fenix, are part of my top 3 should lynch list. | ||
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##Vote: sc2system Reasoning incoming after dinner. | ||
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I'll point to just one thing: Between his vote for Rise Of Fenix and his vote for No Lynch (due, according to him, to Rise now contributing), Rise Of Fenix has ONLY ONE POST. And it says: On March 24 2012 05:36 Rise Of Fenix wrote: give me another chance, please. I will make up my terrible play today tommorow. That's a contribution?! That's even more useless than the rest! I don't know why he chose to vote no lynch at that moment, but his reason makes NO SENSE. Maybe it had to do with him being under attack and trying to make us think he was just a little peaceful guy? ... And then he votes for Virtu out of nowhere. Pure bandwagon jumping, and not one that was going anywhere either way. Virtu hasn't been scummish at all, and while he had a few hours of inactivity, when he posts it at least makes sense. I don't know if we'd get more info out of a Rise of Fenix lynch, but it doesn't matter to me when I'm getting huuuuuge scumvibes from sc2master. | ||
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##Unvote: sc2system ##Vote: Rise of Fenix | ||
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##Unvote: sc2system ##Vote: Rise of Fenix No "3 people get here within 10 minutes and keep Rise alive" for you! :-D | ||
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My rush to vote for sc2system with no immediate explanation was due to mementoss hurrying me up, saying people were leaving, which they were. At that point I was hoping to reverse the vote in order to lynch sc2system due to legitimate reasons, but didn't get there in time. I could've waited until aftermy dinner to post my vote at the same time as the whole explanation, but then I would've been there even later! On gaining information by lynching Rise: I was comparing the information we could get by lynching sc2system and Rise, assuming our lynch turned out to be scum. We really don't gain much info right now by lynching townies. That's not the only criterion used to determine who we lynch, though: Likelihood of being scum is a big thing, and imo sc2system beat Rise by far there. Rise's behavior is less suspicious since the excuse that he's not very bright at all works pretty well for everything he's done. sc2system's behavior, meanwhile, just looked chaotic for no reason. Do I have to even mention he voted for someone saying "ok if you say so" as the only explanation? My threats directed at Rise were meant to pressure him to post more to explain himself. You don't pressure someone by saying "oh, but I'm still split between you and the inactive", because that's just weak play. When I made them, I fully intended to put my vote for his lynch IF nothing else suspicious came up. I couldn't guess that sc2system would, during the few hours I wasn't there, start acting so erratically and make his case worse. Rise's case, meanwhile, didn't really move. My telling Rise to vote for sc2system can hardly be called manipulation. I do it right there in the open and I don't care if you guys see it! I think the guy has proven himself to be so bad that he needs another player to point out the one way he might be able to survive the vote. And indeed, he goes on to screw up the voting format and not be counted, further adding to the evidence for him just being awful... + Show Spoiler + Yeah, I did that too. Oops! First time playing, didn't think the bold was important. Corrected myself in time, though. You shouldn't really criticise me for posting fluff as my first post (no first post can really say much in these games) or 'correcting many typos' (which I didn't do, closest I came to this is continuing a post after submitting accidentally). Your case against me seems really weak, but if you have more specific questions, I'll answer them... | ||
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--- On Artanis and Seviro: I thought Artanis's case wasn't strong enough to consider a day 1 lynch, but I took notice of it. I'm not gonna clutter up the threat by repeating what he said, but Seviro hasn't shown a strong opinion all game that was really his. He seems to be able to appreciate other people's logic while never coming up with his own. I also didn't like that when he got voted on by Artanis, he just voted Artanis back. And I didn't like that he had a "pressure but no lynch" opinion on lurkers at first, but then switched his vote to Virtu for his period of inactivity, despite many ok Virtu posts before. "Flexible in opinion" is how I'd describe Seviro, and that's not a compliment... | ||
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On March 25 2012 06:43 Seviro wrote: This is what I meant by pressure but not necessarly lynch, I put my vote on him and then he came and posted his thought so I switched back. This is what I call pressure play. You said that we should "we should put pressure on lurker but not lynch them to fast". That's a direct quote. Well, the fastest we can lynch a lurker was the day 1 lynch, so that seemed to imply you were against lynching on day 1. Once that opinion of yours is in the open, the pressure value of your vote goes down a lot, so I don't get why you would say that. | ||
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Rise of Fenix wrote: well, you posting first probably eludes you being mafia and drawing unneeded attention to yourself. That is not to say that this could be a fake out, but I am inclined to believe you are town. Who else would like to speak up? Gossemerr wrote: [Unvote Mementoss, vote Rise of Fenix here] I don't understand his only post. He contradicts himself by saving that BlueyD was probably mafia, but thinks he is town in the next sentence? Suspicious to me. He said I probably wasn't mafia in both sentences, but you misread him. So I'm not sure why you bring up being the first to call for Rise of Fenix when your logic was bad and when it turns out he was green, no less. | ||
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1. Hi! I've never played mafia but I understand the game! Also we need a first post to get people talking! 2. Uh, guys, we've been talking about lynching lurkers day 1, but what if it turns out there's no lurkers to lynch? 3. Let's not act like we're starting anew and everyone's back to zero, guys, sc2system has still done crazy stuff we shouldn't forget. If saying "we" a bunch of times is all it takes to be a leader now... | ||
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On the froggynoddy hit: I don't know what to make of this. He was off my radar. He was neither the most scummy-looking, nor the most active or inactive, nor the most helpful. I can't read anything from this hit. On Artanis's vigi claim: I'll see whether anyone counterclaims then decide whether to believe you or not. Tomorrow is MLG finals, I'll be at a barcraft all day, should be back at night though. | ||
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Nova: Not much to say here, just read mementoss’s post on him, he does an excellent job pointing out the inconsistencies, weak cases brought up, and different metagame of Nova this game... Nova’s defense, in return, is spectacularly bad: He makes the most unreasonably long-winded post in the thread full of real life spam, and explains his ‘new metagame’ as a way to get closer to mementoss’s play, even though he’s actually getting farther from it in my opinion. Scummy behavior in my eyes. I also think it’s funny that he’s leaning “scum” for Seviro and “null leaning scummy” for me, but I’m the one who got FoSed. Seviro: I think he’s scum too. Erratic voting record, most posts giving no new contributions, some stuff about ‘pressure but no lynch’ which was really silly, etc... It’s all been pointed out before me so I won’t repeat. But I will point out a few posts (or parts of posts): + Show Spoiler + “I had no position on this, and since it seems that I don't have opinion or I just use others argument I might as well just not post.” You had no opinion, really?! On a vigi hit?! How seviro’s case against mementoss begins: + Show Spoiler + On March 26 2012 03:04 Seviro wrote: He was the first one to make a real case against Rise Of Fenix which really started the train rolling in my opinion. While Rise was doing a great job of sinking himself into bad and bad post, peolple started to look more into it after this case. He also was the first one to point out sc2system lurkerness.These two people had already been mentionned beforehand, respectively by Gossemer and Ninja4ever. My point is, not that it mean anything since it was the same for a lot of people, his two main suspect flipped town which is worth pointing out I think. 1. These 2 were a lot of people’s first 2 suspects. Pointing out that they were mementoss’s as well is not worth it. 2. He pointed out the lurking of people who had been pointed out by Gossemer and Ninja4ever, which makes him the first to make these cases? Contradiction, anyone? And I like how you position yourself as a defender of Rise, twice... + Show Spoiler + On March 24 2012 05:44 Seviro wrote: Where in the world do you see in this post that I am following the Rise Of Fenix train? Hell i'm like the only one that is trying to defend him. On March 26 2012 03:39 Seviro wrote: What are you talking about?. Literally all the EFFING day I've been DEFENDING Fenix in hope that he would come up with something useful, which didn'T happen. When your only time specifically mentioning Rise day 1 is this: + Show Spoiler + On March 23 2012 06:07 Seviro wrote: And about Rise, posting your thought about 1 hour before the deadline is possibly the more scummy thing you could do as the deadline is relatively late and a lot of people are not around at the time. Voting at this time is basically a ninja vote and it is not right to do so since, as Nova said we wouldn't have enough time to discuss about it and change our vote if need be. He was commenting on Rise's "I will likely post my thoughts about 1 hour before the deadline." comment at that point... I get it now! That must be the old “defend him by pointing out his scummy behavior” strategy! Yeah, I don’t see it too often… I’d be fine with lynching any of these two at the moment. They may very well both be scum. But since I only vote once… ##Vote: Seviro | ||
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Oh, I really just think now that Fenix is playing poorly or just doesn't care enough to put enough time on the game. But I'll give him the chance to step up his play because I really think he is town. I think that if he was mafia, his fellow scum would have helped him in the background so that he don't look so suspicious. For now I think he is just bad and as I said, i'm willing to give him a chance to step up his play. I shouldn't have said that I think that he is really town, more like I don't see him being more scummy than anyone else right now. Yeah I know, I just feel like it's too obvious to be true. I might be wrong tho. Okay, so he plays poorly, looks suspicious, and feels like obvious scum to you. Great defense! It doesn't feel like you're defending him at all to me, since you bring up something I can bold in every single post. I'm not at 1/1 or at 1/4 now, I'm at 4/4. Truth is when someone looks this bad, we lynch him to know what he is. That's how the game is played. He was a decent lynch target from the start and the only defense you could have brought out was "someone else looks even worse", as I did. Never try to defend me, by the way. | ||
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Oh, for people wondering, my issue here isn't Rise, it's Seviro trying to gain credit on something he didn't do after the fact. That's a scummy thing to do. | ||
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I still stand by my idea that both might be red, and they're playing against each other so that the survivor won't be suspicious, given that it seems obvious one of the two is about to get lynched. ------ I want to draw attention to michaelthe's voteswitch. Vote count at the moment of his switch: Seviro (6): michaelthe, BlueyD, Nova_Terra, Artanis[Xp], Mementoss, Seviro Nova_Terra (2): Ninja4ever, Gossemerr And then he switches to Nova, saying we need 6 votes on a guy - but we do before he switches, and not after! He argues that mafia benefits from a no-lynch, but he's actually getting us closer to that himself. Now Seviro just has to switch back at the last minute and we have a no-lynch... So we have here a nice case of "actions go left, words go right" by michaelthe. | ||
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I wish he'd defended himself like he did in his last post earlier, instead of self-voting... | ||
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Look at who we have active as well: Mementoss, Artanis, You, Seviro, Nova. We can get the guaranteed kill on Nova easily. Goss and Ninja are both afk. Goss (who had his vote on Nova) was not afk at the moment this post was made. He had posted just 40 minutes before, commenting on michaelthe’s voteswitch. AND MICHAEL ACTUALLY REPLIED TO GOSS, so he can’t have missed the fact that he was there. But after that, it’s convenient to turn around and tell me Goss is afk… So what we have here is a nice little lie! I don’t know how the vote switch relates to motive, though. If michaelthe is scum, then he knows Seviro is town, yet he’s trying to direct the lynch in the other direction, towards Nova. The least risky move for mafia, by far, would have been to just stick with that lynch. This said, if michaelthe is scum, then Nova is probably townie, and he’s been more threatening to michaelthe than Seviro has so that might be the motive? In terms of information, this is a good lynch – but we can NOT afford a lynch based on acquiring information here. Still I think the case stands on its own. ------------ Since I appear to be under heavy suspicion, I’ll comment on Seviro’s last post, which I wish he’d done a few hours earlier instead of self-lynching, because there was a lot more effort in it. I still think my analysis of his ‘defense’ of Rise was all right: Sure, you can point out places where he’s saying ‘I think he’s townie’ without real justification or defense of the argument, and others where he’s saying “give him time”, which I don’t call a defense because whoever put out a vote against Rise at that point still had the option to unvote later on – everyone was already giving him time until the first lynch, and many were saying “I find Rise suspicious but I’m gonna give him a chance”, like Seviro was. Then Seviro says: Hell i'm like the only one that is trying to defend him. I don’t think I should get any scum points for pointing these things out… It’s pointed out by others that I was more useful at the beginning than at the end, to which I reply that I get home/wake up and the best cases are already written by other people, so all I can do is add to them, so I review the thread and filters and point out what I find, which most of the time turns out to be against someone who has a case on them already. I can’t really point out anything against Artanis (confirmed townie) or mementoss (whose play has been very green, so not a lot to point out), or our inactives like Virtu, so yeah my commentary fell to Goss, Nova, michaelthe (see above) and the late Seviro most of the time – and surprise! They were the ones with cases on their back. When I agree with a case I just say so, no need to clutter up the thread. | ||
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Reply to Seviros last post (guess you did now) Who do you think will die tonight/why? Who do you think is logically next to go after Michael flips scum? Question 1: Done! Question 2: Artanis seems to be the best pick at first: He’s confirmed townie, so he won’t get lynched. He won’t even get any votes from now until the end of the game (whereas mementoss might, but it's unlikely), so obviously he has to end up night-killed. But let’s look at the situation here... -Most people see you as likely green, right below Artanis (though not confirmed) -Mafia see that a green (me) seems to be the town’s lynch target for day4, after michaelthe day3 -You’re the driving force (along with Nova, but people listen to you more) behind lynching me day4 It’s pretty easy for mafia to let Artanis live another night and hit you tonight instead, hoping the town lynches me in retaliation on day 4 (Day 3 is, of course, a lock for a michaelthe lynch imo). In fact, if it worked, that would win them the game right there, and I’m not getting the feeling my "I'm getting framed!" defense would work on the remaining townies. If somehow I didn’t get lynched day 4 after that, the town still would get your advice for one less day. You're not a good lynch target day 4 so letting you live provides them no advantage in terms of survival, either... So it’s one of you two, but if I were mafia I’d probably go for you now, and Artanis next night if they haven’t won yet. In other words... townlynch michaelthe (5-2), scumhit mementoss (4-2), townlynch blueyd (3-2), scumhit whoever (2-2) and mafia wins. That would be my plan as scum. Question 3: I’m going to assume that we lynch michaelthe on the next day and he’s scum, as the question asks me to, and go from there. That probably is what will happen, anyway. I’ll go by elimination first, then see who remains... - Not you or Artanis, you’re the greenest non-confirmed in my eyes and Artanis is 100% confirmed town. - Not Nova for reasons explained in previous post: michaelthe wouldn’t try to switch a Seviro lynching towards Nova if Nova is scum and Seviro is town, so that makes Nova a lot more likely to be town. - Yeah, not me. Call me biased! So that leaves ninja4ever, Gossemerr, and Virtu as options for day 4 after the day 3 michaelthe lynch, from my point of view anyway. Time to look at all 3! I’ll post more later on. | ||
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Oh wait, I knew something was wrong. Point 2: The next death is a scumhit not a townlynch. :-p So, scumhit mementoss (4-3), townlynch michaelthe (4-2), scumhit Artanis (3-2), townlynch me (2-2) and this is done. Doesn't really change the idea (getting me framed since I'm already #2 target and green), just puts everything in the right order. | ||
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Okay, I said I’d post analysis on ninja, Virtu and Gossemer. Gossemer is dead, though... I’ll see what I can tell from his death. Before that, though, let’s get this out of the way: ##Vote: Michaelthe ---------- On ninja4ever: I mostly want him to stop parroting and post some analysis of his own at this point. He’s been lurking and just putting his vote on who’s the next lynch all game long, and getting away with it. I add that I don’t have to be scum in order for his parroting behavior to be suspicious, he just has to know who’s scum and who’s townie, and jump on whatever bandwagon targets the wrong people... which is apparently those I’m in, every single time. -_- Yeah, so this has all been said. Sue me. Still I have a question, and I hope he finally replies with something worth reading... To ninja: Assuming we get a scum today, who would you then lynch day 4, and why? My take on ninja4ever: null leaning scum. ---------- On Virtu: Our other lurker. I went through the whole filter looking to see what it looked like... The last reason for his inactivity seems believable, he even asked a mod if he could be subbed out. And then he came back for the vote. There was no comment on seviro/nova we can work with. There was a bit of an inconsistency no one caught early on to justify his inactivity, though, but it’s not enough to build a case around it. See these two posts for yourself: MLG is good for activity, then it’s bad. Nice to see this started before MLG weekend, will be watching plenty of MLG so should have time to be active. I'm slightly more inactive than I'd like to be, I joined after GMarshal said that we most likely wouldn't start until after the end of MLG under the presumption that this would be the case, but as it's started before, MLG has taken up most of my attention so far. Go figure... I like that he’s targeted guys other than those we ended up lynching, though, and the MLG thing seems very minor to me. He seems to have his own opinion. He’s less suspicious than ninja4ever to me. ---------- This was to be Gossemer’s section, but now he’s dead. Here was how I thought night lynches would go: Artanis would be night hit first and mementoss next night, or the opposite. Either way, they would be the next 2 night hits. If somehow things didn’t go this way, I figured Artanis would die and mementoss would live, in which case I would get to ask mementoss why he’s still alive. Until then he seemed to me like dead-man-walking, an assessment he agreed with for a time before changing his mind, so I figured I’d let it go and hold off on analysis since he would likely die in the next 2 nights and our only day target before that was already decided. Turns out both are still alive after night 1, which was totally unexpected for me. I’m going to say that this is because both are useful for mafia’s purposes right now, whereas Gossemer wasn’t. Both are aiming for michaelthe, then for me – If you’re mafia, this point of view is a very useful one to keep alive at least until more people are convinced, since I’m town. (I realize this won’t convince anyone, but I’m just telling you what’s running through my head at the moment.) Gossemer was aiming for michaelthe but didn’t comment on me after the Seviro lynch, preferring to aim for... mementoss. I don’t have a case on mementoss right now, but he’s back on the suspicions list. I’ll read what others have written on him again tomorrow, go through filters, etc... See if the case stands up or doesn’t at all. | ||
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Sorry I haven't been active, real life stuff getting in the way. There wasn't all that much urgent stuff to deal with in the town anyway - well, apart from the fact that you guys seem to be about to lynch me, but I still have a while before even that happens. It was pretty clear michaelthe was our lynch choice for today, anyway. I'll get to what I gotta do in 2 days, or maybe late tomorrow night. I still have to post an analysis of mementoss as I said I would, too. If anyone but Artanis gets scumhit tomorrow, I will be extremely surprised. | ||
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I'd like to request that the discussion today revolve around who we lynch today. As of now, it’s entirely useless to discuss strategy for days we won’t get to at this rate. ---------- I stand by my earlier analysis on 3 of you. I thought Nova was scum, but now I think “leaning town” because michael tried to switch the votes to him on the day we lynched Seviro, which could very well have worked. Ninja/Janaan is more suspicious than Virtu, but it’s hard to know with the guy hardly being active. Between those 3, I’d say Ninja/Janaan is most likely to be the scum. But I’ve said all that already. Ah, but we have 2 scum left, don’t we? Who’s the other one? The answer is, I don’t know. I’m taking it 1 day at a time right now. ---------- Just a few questions to town about mementoss… First, how is he still alive? How come the greenest of the green, the town leader, survives to this day over froggynoddy and Gossemer? If I’d been mafia I would’ve taken him down on the first day, unless of course he were mafia as well, given that it was pretty clear from last game that he doesn’t really belong in a newbie game. Does he just have mad surviving skills, or is he simply on the side that doesn’t get night hit? Second, let’s take a hypothetical situation: You’re scum, you’re clearly about to be lynched and nothing will save you. You have one last opportunity to attack someone. Do you… a) Attack a townie, hoping the town still believes your attacks are legit when you flip scum. b) Attack another scum, making him look greener when you die. It’s pretty obvious to me that michaelthe had zero chance of making a mementoss lynch pass at that moment, that any attacks he could make would backfire once he was revealed as scum, and that he used some very weak arguments unlikely to convince anyone, so this looks more like B than A to me. I’d love to make a stronger case against mementoss, but the truth is he’s very good, and that’s pretty much all I have. And it’s a WIFOM, and of course he’s gonna win these by being seen as a greenie by eeeeeeveryone. ---------- Mementoss, I’d like to ask another question. You said: I am certain that there is a scum between you [Nova] and BlueyD. Why is that? Where does this certainty come from? | ||
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Well, I really don't think I can save my ass, so I'll just put my vote on the on Nova like Janaan did, in a desperate attempt to keep the game going, and I'll get back here after the game to laugh at you all. My metagame for next game: Shut up like Virtu, apparently that's good for survival and actually trying isn't. ##Vote: Nova_Terra | ||
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And I'd rather put a vote on Janaan or even you, but it doesn't look like that would actually pass. In such a case a Nova lynch is better for town than lynching me, from my own point of view, because I at least know it's not 100% loss. You seem to have dismissed or just ignored a LOT of what I've said to try to convince you that I'm green, and you just keep repeating that I'm scummy, so of course I don't have anything new to offer, and all I see is our loss getting closer and closer every hour. The other guys in town seem happy to just put a vote without really explaining it (my explanation might suck in your eyes, but at least it's honest), so again, not much to reply to. So it feels a bit like a lost cause to me, really. | ||
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EBWOP: (...) so all I can really do is try to defend myself and hope that, somehow, I become a less attractive lynch target. Heck, it's not like the others are giving me any activity to work with and try to make a case. | ||
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Virtu and Janaan were under ZERO pressure today. | ||
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As I've said repeatedly, I see Nova as "leaning townie" due to his interaction with michael: michael trying to switch the vote from Seviro to Nova. There's really two ways to see this move: 1) michaelthe legitimately tried to switch a lynch from a townie to townie to cause chaos, or 2) michaelthe was commiting suicide just to make Nova look less suspicious, which was entirely unneeded because Seviro was gonna be lynched over Nova anyway. #2 seems far-fetched to me, and so I think Nova is more likely to be town. I put my vote on him because after the whole "Bluey vs Nova" thing and Janaan's vote, his lynch looked like my only chance of surviving, therefore our only chance of not losing tonight. He's not my #1 lynch candidate, ideally. ---------- You say a Janaan or Virtu lynch has the disadvantage of not giving us much information. That's true, but that's also our fault: We didn't pressure these guys much in the last few days, even though we had plenty of time due to michael's lynch being decided very early on day 3 (or even night 2). We called them inactive and suspicious, but as long as we were attacking the active ones they just had to stay in the back and eat their pop corn. You've already said don't think both Nova and I are mafia, which means right now you HAVE to be thinking at LEAST one of the lurkers is. My best pick between the two is Janaan, and yours is as well. And unlike what you say, it's not too late: Nova said he'd be around, Virtu will show up to vote, and we represent 2 votes. We could actually do it. | ||
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I'll be the first to grant that I wasn't the first to make a case against him. You'll have to agree that the part of the case which I did make was very convincing, and that no one made it before I did. If your own case against him had been that convincing, we would've lynched him day 2 instead of Seviro. ------------- Come on, mementoss, stop deforming my words. I said an analysis of you would come. All I had against you, I posted. It wasn't much. I recognised it. I never said I'd make a case - I hadn't even looked at your filter in a while when I said that, hence why I said I'd take a closer look and post what I had. And I just explained why I voted Nova, twice, but here you go again... At the moment of my vote, this was the situation: Probability of lynching someone other than Nova or me: Very low; would probably result in me being lynched instead Probability of town losing if I am lynched, from my own point of view: 100% Probability of town losing if Nova is lynched: Somewhat less than 100% Possibility of making a very good case on anyone else: Very low as well, since there are 2 inactives, 1 very good player and 1 guy I think is more likely to be green than red. | ||
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On April 02 2012 08:13 Mementoss wrote: That being said I am still not set in my vote, if other people other than me and BlueyD contribute to the conversationg I might be willing to switch. "Hey guys, if you don't say a word, we'll lynch Bluey!" Lol... Well you just took both mafia out of the conversation, good job. Why would you do that? | ||
BlueyD
Canada437 Posts
Well, there wasn't much we could have done. With one town not voting in a 3 vs 2 situation, we were dead anyway. GG scum! | ||
BlueyD
Canada437 Posts
I'll have to reevaluate my play some, I bought into Nova's innocence after the events with michaelthe. At least my last vote was in the right spot, even though it was me trying to save my own ass, not me legitimately thinking Nova was scum. And memento, we were dead anyway due to Virtu not showing up. If you switch your vote to Nova, there's a good chance that Janaan just shows up at the very last minute to switch his own vote to me. | ||
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