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Zealos
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March 19 2012 21:11 GMT
#55
I'm gonna go ahead and /in even though I will be in the 5th replacement spot
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March 21 2012 13:00 GMT
#112
I'm happy to start with the policy of lynching lurkers until a better candidate comes along.
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March 21 2012 18:29 GMT
#173
My 2 cents so far:

Acrofales
On March 21 2012 22:54 Acrofales wrote:
Okay seriously WTF. I know I'm new to this game, but voting me for that reason alone makes no sense. In fact, it seems quite a scum move to cast suspicion on people right at the start of the game.

Or am I going overboard and it's just a way of getting people to post at the start of the game? Either way, I'm watching you and risk.nuke. Voting off the bat seems fishy.

This seems like a slight overeaction to what is essentially a nothing vote, plus making a theory which he then backs down from almost straight away:

As for the rest, I've calmed down a bit, with later people talking about the random votes. It is my first game (ever) and I was hoping to live past the first day. People instavoting for me got me a bit upset. I am happy to unvote Matthew when a better candidate comes up, the ghost of High Heart is kinda cryptic when it comes to her prophecies It was more of a "if you vote for me, then I'll vote for you"-thing anyway.


Seems very keen to try to suddenly make friends with everyone again eh?

GreYMisT
On March 22 2012 01:20 GreYMisT wrote:
Guys I say we lynch Wherebugsgo, just to be certain.

Sand/Syllo can you guys sign you posts? It makes it a lot easier for the rest of us to keep track of who thinks what.

Xatalos, I'm interested on what you think about Wherebugsgo/littlefinger. How do you think we should go about interacting with him now that we know he is 3rd party?

Also i would like to assure everyone that even though I am hosting Aperture Mafia, the science will not keep me from being active here.


Seems too keen to play on the confusion around WBG. Lynching him even though it is explicitly stated that he is unlynchable?
Explain to us why he is.


One of these content-less scumesq posts imo. Lets hear some actual opinions on people?

On the topic of Wherebugsgo, I'd love to completely ignore him if possible, though I doubt that will end up happening....
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March 21 2012 18:37 GMT
#176
There's only so much analysis to make in the game so far DoYouHas, especially when most people aren't posting anything of note, and the point against Acro is perfectly valid, it's typical Mafia to make a wishy washy hypothosis before backing down at the nearest opposition. I'd like to hear what he has to say about it.
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March 21 2012 18:48 GMT
#180
Ok, I misread Grey's intentions with his post about lynching WBG.

I understand the need to question someone who is trying to lynch, but he was only asking for a post from Acro about his constant forwards and back with his opinions.

If he wants to prove to be innocent (To the extent that is possible at this point in the game) then he should tell us what he makes of the game thusfar.
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March 21 2012 18:54 GMT
#184
On March 22 2012 03:48 GreYMisT wrote:
Has ON even posted?


It appears not, though a lot of people have posted very little. I'm still as happy as earlier to say we should lynch a lurker if there is not enough reason to lynch a specific person, which I would say there is not, although I still would say Acro is a little suspicious, but I can't tell if he's scum or just new, or both.
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March 21 2012 18:57 GMT
#187
I think our best bet in regard to WBG is to completely ignore his posts, unless he gives us damn good reason not to.
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March 21 2012 19:06 GMT
#191
We can still announce the fact we have voted for someone though surely?
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March 21 2012 19:07 GMT
#193
Ninja'd :X
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March 21 2012 19:12 GMT
#194
#Original Name
Lets try to get him talking
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March 21 2012 19:13 GMT
#195
##Original Name
Double # :3
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March 21 2012 19:22 GMT
#200
Wow, it was a double fail, I am far too overeager D:

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March 21 2012 19:23 GMT
#201
*sigh*
##Vote OriginalName
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March 21 2012 19:59 GMT
#210
Sorry, genuine mistakes, but obviously I can't edit my posts, my fault I'm afraid.
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Zealos
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March 21 2012 20:39 GMT
#217
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 22 2012 05:32 MrZentor wrote:
Hello people of Mafia! It is I, MrZentor!

Anyways, I thought this started a day after it did, so I am a little late to the party.
Let me tell everybody my opinion, so you can get a good read on me!

First we have Acrofales overreacting to a vote that didn't have a basis.
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2012 22:54 Acrofales wrote:
Okay seriously WTF. I know I'm new to this game, but voting me for that reason alone makes no sense. In fact, it seems quite a scum move to cast suspicion on people right at the start of the game.

Or am I going overboard and it's just a way of getting people to post at the start of the game? Either way, I'm watching you and risk.nuke. Voting off the bat seems fishy.


He then votes for Mattchew.
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 00:04 Acrofales wrote:
Hodor's terribly talkative all of a sudden.

Luckily I have better sources than that. The Ghost of High Heart told me that you are scum.

##vote: Mattchew


Lyter defends Acrofales.
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 02:15 Lyter wrote:
I'd say ignore wbg at least for now, we have absolutely no idea what his motives/intentions could be, when more of a picture is formed then we should come back to it by all means.
I'm not sure on Acrofales, yea he could be flipping a shit cos he got called out so early, but his actions are hardly unlikely for a new guy anyway.

Then Mattchew, bad spelling in hand, attacks Lyter for defending Acrofales
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 02:21 Mattchew wrote:
On March 22 2012 02:15 Lyter wrote:
I'd say ignore wbg at least for now, we have absolutely no idea what his motives/intentions could be, when more of a picture is formed then we should come back to it by all means.
I'm not sure on Acrofales, yea he could be flipping a shit cos he got called out so early, but his actions are hardly unlikely for a new guy anyway.

oh so your his scum teammate?



I really don't like that Mattchew attacks Lyter for defending Acrofales, who I think at this point is innocent. It also seems silly that Mattchew is 100% positive that Acrofales is innocent over one nooby overreaction. If you look at Mattchew's filter, you will see he only said something slightly helpful when he was asked to; everything else is just him attacking other people without any real reason.

For now, I think he is most likely to be scum.


I have nothing against pushing the point, as we are yet to see a real responce for Acrofales, who I would personally like to see make a stance and give his opinion on the current ongoings. Although I do agree the way in which he "pushed his point" was pretty brash, it doesn't scream mafia to me atm.
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Zealos
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United Kingdom3575 Posts
March 22 2012 13:05 GMT
#308
On March 22 2012 18:01 Acrofales wrote:
Lurkers
Yes, you: Nicolas, Layabout, Zealos, Sinensis, Evantrees, Lyter and Risen. Why should we not lynch you, you're clearly not contributing anything.

I've been asleep/Working for a few hours, was fairly active before. Give me 10 mins to read over the newest developments.
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Profile Blog Joined November 2011
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March 22 2012 13:17 GMT
#309
My thoughts:
Acro:
Why have you still not given some definitive thoughts? I asked a couple of pages ago and there is still nothing, are you just avoiding the question? The only people you say should be lynched atm are Lurkers, of which I am one, even though I have been fairly active. You made a point against gumshoe but haven't really elaborated or spoken of it since. I want to see you actually follow through on what you are saying.
Gumshoe
Alot of your posts seem completly substanceless, and make you look active, without making any strong stances. Such as
Also do we want to elect a mayor?

Also can we keep the Hodor's to a minimum?

When he finally begins to make a case against Acro, we get this very odd quote
Acrofales seeing as your lynch is getting to be pretty likely maybe you should role claim?

Is this noob or scum? Not easy to tell, but some of your other posts make it seem closer to the latter.
So overall, so far, my Lynch list would be:
1. Acro
2. Gumshoe

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March 22 2012 13:21 GMT
#311
Thank god Mattchew, was wondering if I'd missed it on the OP over and over.
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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
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March 22 2012 14:13 GMT
#314
Simply put: If you had to kill one person now, who would it be (Other than lurkers)
The reason on the sudden flip about Grey was me being overeager to have an opinion, and not consider the fact it may well be a joke.

As for the copy of opinions already voiced, for me personally, if I agree with someone, I would rather elaborate on what they have said, rather than I simpler QFT or such.

Though I'm not sure where I defended gumshoe?
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March 22 2012 14:46 GMT
#317
I think it is good that you have made an argument against someone using substance, however, it is somewhat less poignient given the substance of his latest post. However, you have constructed a more useful post and formed an opinion, so although I am still a little susipcious, as you basically back down from your own argument, I will change my vote for the time being.
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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3575 Posts
March 22 2012 18:02 GMT
#326
On March 23 2012 02:36 DoYouHas wrote:
My vote is doing nothing where it is so I am going to sheep Samuel on Oberyn until I read a more convincing case or I write one myself.

##Unvote: Acrofales
##Vote: Oberyn


I'm gonna do the same to put the pressure on.
##Unvote
##Vote: Oberyn
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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
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March 22 2012 18:49 GMT
#329
Lets just wait for a couple of hours to see what he posts first eh?
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Zealos
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March 22 2012 18:55 GMT
#331
^^ Is that a non troll post by WBG? ;D
But yeah, I kinda agree.
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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
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March 22 2012 19:43 GMT
#338
@Alderan
I am in this game playing with the assumption that people believe that I am town. I'm not going to waste time to debate over this, as I'd rather spend my time on the thread trying to find real scum, and get them. If I'm not allowed to agree with people over who looks scummy, then you may as well not bother reading my posts as I am not afraid to agree with people when they make good points.

@Acro
Matthew is... Weird. He makes some perfectly valid points, but also seems to make some rather moot ones. Although looking at the filter, he makes a LOT of accusations, without having all that much reason. For instance
oh so your his scum teammate?

explain to me why you are not scum.

you have 90 minutes

then MrZentor, bad reading comprehension in hand, makes a terrible post with his lead point of his slippery slope theory being untrue because Mattchew (who is awesome, sexy and lover of all townies) never even voted for Acrofales!

i say we lynch acrofales and everyone that has defended him


I would be all about a Xatalos lynching today. He posts reek of "I want to look like the rest of you"

We should lynch Oberyn

He seems to constantly switch targets, and it seems like he wants to stir up confusion. Although he almost seems too obvious in the way he does it, which could just be bad town.

Summary: I would certainly say suspicious, but not 100% mafia yet, but should no better targets appear, would be a reasonable day 1 lynch.
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March 22 2012 19:44 GMT
#339
Not to mention him being incredibly anti Acrofales.
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Zealos
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March 22 2012 19:58 GMT
#341
Well, my vote was to provoke a post like that, which is good enough for me.
##unvote
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March 22 2012 20:47 GMT
#352
Are we to expect a big post from you risen?
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March 22 2012 20:49 GMT
#354
Double ninja'd
And I personally don't consider a few medium posts rather than one huge one spam.
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March 22 2012 21:06 GMT
#365
@Risen, I believe the Acro thing has been discussed to death, some people going one way, and some the other, and while I do see the suspicions you have raised so far, I don't quite see the connection between him and Mattchew the way you do.
IMO: One of them is mafia, one town, I doubt they are on the same side.
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March 22 2012 22:14 GMT
#382
The point he was making, Mattchew, is that you focus all your attention on one guy WITHOUT posting for him, which in his eye's is fishy. I am now off to bed though, so I'll answer and questions/make a fresh analysis in the morning. Nn.
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March 24 2012 16:47 GMT
#662
Sorry for missing the deadline, been swamped with work. :3
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March 25 2012 00:52 GMT
#782
Bear in mind everyone, arguing with other townie's will always be in the mafia's favor, and although I think Risen has written a lot of filler, I do think his posts have had some decent substance and so I wouldn't put him as mafia yet.
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March 25 2012 14:28 GMT
#843
Ok, finally got some free time on my hands, so I'm gonna read over the thread and post some kind of analysis.
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March 25 2012 14:36 GMT
#844
Risen seems to be the hot topic, so I'll start with him
I'm calling him as Mafia
My biggest reasons for this is that he consistently switches topics to talk about wbg, even though it is widely agreed that we should just be ignoring him:
+ Show Spoiler +

On March 25 2012 10:08 Risen wrote:
Also, wbg isn't going to leave his vote on me all day. Don't sheeple onto it if you're town, feel free to do so if you're mafia. When I flip as an eventuality of being lynched or shot at night everything I'm saying will be confirmed and hopefully town still has enough remaining to win. If you lynch acro tonight there will be 3 mafia left. If you lynch me tonight it will be 12 town to 4 mafia, going through a night with 2 kills will make it 10 town to 4 mafia, you'll lynch acro and make it 10 town to 3 mafia. Not a bad situation for town. This seems like it's a really tough game for mafia to win. Maybe b/c of wbg powers/trolling shenans it's more balanced than I can see.


I've been thinking. WBG wants a close endgame. He told us greymist was mafia, but we lynched a townie anyways. He's now pushing hard on me. He knows I'm town, so his motives to me are suspect (obviously). It comes back to the 10-3 town to mafia at the start of night 3 should I be lynched as he wants, which is pretty on track for a WBG victory assuming it drops to 8-3 following night 3.

The only tough part about this is that when it turns out wbg is lying about me, what do we do about his claim that Greymist is mafia. I almost investigated him instead of acro, but figured an acro lynch would be more beneficial as a lot of people already think Greymist is mafia.

He just seems to post a lot of filler, without really addressing the arguments against him. Though I do agree, should he flip detective it's safe to say that Acro isn't in a great spot. Also this:
Mods when I reach majority can we prematurely end the day? Will speed this game up.
is just utter garbage.
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March 25 2012 14:37 GMT
#845
Didn't mean to post then, gotta add more stuff in, so I'll just add it in my next post.
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March 25 2012 14:39 GMT
#846
On March 25 2012 13:46 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 13:41 GreYMisT wrote:
On March 25 2012 10:46 Risen wrote:
Ok so mafia knows that acro is being lynched either today or tomorrow 100%. What are they going to do now? They can't just discredit me b/c they'll have to vote to lynch me, which will lead to acro lynch day3. They can't ignore me b/c then acro gets lynched today. Maybe they've already given up on acro living past today and just want to act as pro-town as possible since the discussion today will be entirely focused on whether I'm lying or not

If it's decided I'm lying, then I'm lynched and acro is gone tomorrow so all the discussion tomorrow will be useless as well, if it's decided I'm telling the truth acro is lynched today and tomorrow brings fresh discussion. Or the case I'm not bringing up because it's impossible, acro flips town and I'm therefor mafia and discussion today is pointless and discussion tomorrow is pointless as I'm the obvious lynch.

Therefor, I think the best possible outcome for us is lynching acro today. When he flips mafia I'm confirmed town and we're happy as shit and in a really good spot. (Even if he flips town it gives you a free mafia lynch tomorrow, again this won't happen but town is still in a pretty damn decent position)

Sums up any input I'll have today I think. Time for me to go to my movie, I'll be back later folks.


You are not confirmed town when/if acro flips scum

we do not know that mafia knows that acro is being lynched today or tomorrow 100%

Why even ask us to consider the fact that you will flip scum, if you are not?

This, in addition to your extremely defensive nature (during night might I add) leads me to believe you are scum.

##Vote: Risen


Because when I flip detective you'll know I've checked him.

Just saw this, confirms scum imo. I remember reading in the guide that no good detective would ever roleclaim, and I am willing to follow that logic through.
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March 25 2012 14:40 GMT
#847
##Vote Risen
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March 25 2012 16:59 GMT
#850
They are meant to make a good case against someone, and on death, the remaining towners have to look over their posts to find the breadcrumbs they left. They want to stay alive as long as possible, and roleclaiming isn't how they should do it. Taken from the guide:
+ Show Spoiler +
3.) Don't claim.

Never, ever, ever claim Cop unless it's LYLO or shit has really hit the fan. This used to be one of the easiest ways to catch Scum because competent cops would never claim. Even if you are about to be lynched DO NOT CLAIM. The best way to avoid being lynched is to talk your way out of it. If you claim, the town believes you, and you live guess what? It's WIFOM time. The town will start talking about all kinds of useless shit like whether or not the Mafia will kill you and what Medics need to do but...guess what? The Mafia has a role blocker. You've screwed yourself out of a Night, someone, and hopefully not the Medic will die and now the next Day the WIFOM circle starts again. Don't claim even at the point of death. If you die you hopefully breadcrumbed your investigations anyway.


Though it is for cop, it presumably works the same way for Alignment Detective.
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March 25 2012 17:05 GMT
#852
One somewhere in the Mafia subforum. Just search cop and it comes up. I'm inclined to agree though, claiming day 2 seems stupid.
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March 25 2012 17:33 GMT
#854
I don't think risen is an idiot to be honest, his initial analysis' seemed sound, also, this vote can also be attributed to the other arguments people have made, I am merely adding another angle to the argument of him being mafia.
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March 25 2012 17:45 GMT
#856
Claiming is the keyword.
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March 25 2012 18:08 GMT
#861
This is true too ^^
It also seems odd that you just defend him for claiming cop without questioning the fact that he may lie in this game about "Lies and deception"?
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March 25 2012 18:17 GMT
#863
You missed out a couple of possibilities.
1. Risen is standard Mafia
2. Risen is standard townie, trying to get out of a lynch (obviously very unlikely)
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March 25 2012 18:35 GMT
#866
I have to see, it seems like the only way to be sure of risen is a lynch, even if it was just a frame, we have no way of verifying anything.
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March 25 2012 19:30 GMT
#876
On March 26 2012 04:22 Mattchew wrote:
can someone tell me why we would want to take a risk of lynching the guy who claims dt first?

for the most part it sounds like people are saying something along the lines of "i wouldn't do that as DT" or "he must be an idiot to do that as DT" or "This way of playing DT doesn't help town"

2 of these say nothing about alignment. playing stupid or different from how you would play it dont mean scum. and there are a ton of examples of townies playing in a not pro-town manner.

If we flip acro first and he flips scum or miller, we save the life of a townie and save a lynch.
if we flip acro first and he flips town, we get to see what happens to risen at night, and then lynch him.
if we flip risen first and he flips scum, we don't learn anything about acro BUT HURRAY WE LYNCH SCUM
if we flip risen first and hes town DT, we waste a lynch on a confirmable townie, and acro gets lynched the next day


I feel it is a lot safer to lynch acro first

What if acro is the real DT and he is playing it well by not claiming?
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March 25 2012 19:37 GMT
#877
Not saying he is at all, but you have to consider it, and even if he isn't, he could just claim DT and we would be back to square one. I say we lynch the worse poster so far, which has to be risen in my opinion.
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March 25 2012 19:43 GMT
#881
I'm pretty sure that them getting the blue was blind luck, with the choice of hits to do more with his veterency and quality of posts?
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March 25 2012 20:06 GMT
#889
So will you be voting for yourself Risen?
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March 25 2012 20:21 GMT
#892
Risen first, when he inevitably flips vanilla scum we can move on.
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March 25 2012 20:31 GMT
#895
Sure, whoever is cop can look into me. Risen, your post reeks of irony talking of a really dumb townie. Considering you still claim you are DT, you must be either terrible at the role, or what I believe, that you are scum.
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March 25 2012 20:37 GMT
#899
Oh dear dear, where to start. One you were the first to OMGUS when you called me as a really bad townie, at which point I responded by saying you are not bad, but instead scum. But instead of reading the content of my post, you tried to deflect the nature of my argument, solidifying your position as scum.
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March 25 2012 20:41 GMT
#904
It really feels like you are clutching at straws at this point. Earlier you were saying it was best if we lynch you and acro? Now you're just trying to defend yourself?
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March 25 2012 20:46 GMT
#910
I don't understand why you keep using the DT argument as your defense when there is literally no way for anyone to verify that, so it is a null point. So far, you have seemed more scum that acro, hence my vote for you.
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March 25 2012 21:01 GMT
#916
On March 26 2012 05:56 Risen wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 26 2012 05:46 Zealos wrote:
I don't understand why you keep using the DT argument as your defense when there is literally no way for anyone to verify that, so it is a null point. So far, you have seemed more scum that acro, hence my vote for you.


I'm just confused, I didn't think my play wasn't pro-town since my claims were so easy to check. We lynch acro and you get guaranteed scum on day 3. That isn't bad, is it? In a game with only 4 scum dropping them to 3 by the end of day 3 is decent positioning imo, and tbh I really am having a hard time understanding why people are voting for the guy who openly claimed and told everyone what his check was instead of the guy who hasn't claimed anything.

In a normal game without the third party threatening to shoot me I wouldn't have panicked. It's my fault we're in the position we are in, and I acknowledge that.

Because day 2 claims don't verify town whatsoever. And lynching you now and then acro tomorrow if you flip DT means we still get the mafia hit. Also, if acro is mafia, then the whole of the mafia team now know you are DT, so you are pretty dead anyways.
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March 25 2012 21:05 GMT
#918
On March 26 2012 05:38 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2012 05:37 Zealos wrote:
Oh dear dear, where to start. One you were the first to OMGUS when you called me as a really bad townie, at which point I responded by saying you are not bad, but instead scum. But instead of reading the content of my post, you tried to deflect the nature of my argument, solidifying your position as scum.


You should stop posting. When I flip town DT you're going to be in some hot water if you're a townie...

And what is this garbage? It's just total filler. Even if you do roll DT, my reasoning is still completely sound. Either you're a shit DT, or a reasonable Mafia, which is what I am hedging my bets on.
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March 25 2012 21:12 GMT
#920
Even if you flipped DT, there is no reason that puts me into a scum position. You are just using threats as an attempt to stop me from pressing my case. Give us a good reason to believe you're DT, before I roleclaim as Godfather and claim you're one of my mafia buddies, as your reasoning is that roleclaims are always truthful.
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March 25 2012 21:17 GMT
#922
[QUOTE]On March 24 2012 07:25 Risen wrote:
[QUOTE]On March 24 2012 07:21 Acrofales wrote:
[QUOTE]On March 24 2012 07:15 GreYMisT wrote:
[QUOTE]On March 24 2012 07:10 Acrofales wrote:
I'm almost positive Acro is scum, and Mattchew needs to be checked tonight. VOTE ACROFALES[/QUOTE]
Oh, and here's a gem, if you were DT and were sure about Acro being scum, why didn't you check Mattchew?
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March 25 2012 21:17 GMT
#923
That quote didnt work at all o.O I wondered what I did, I'll repost 1 sec
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March 25 2012 21:20 GMT
#926
On March 24 2012 07:25 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 07:21 Acrofales wrote:
On March 24 2012 07:15 GreYMisT wrote:
On March 24 2012 07:10 Acrofales wrote:
Lol. Are we seriously putting our lynch in the hands of either mafia or littlefinger?! This is really retarded. However, I have no idea where to put my vote. My earlier reads were Mattchew, Gumshoe and Zealos. Nobody else seems to want to vote for them, although for the life of me I don't know why not.

I guess I could add Evantrees to my lynch targets, if we're going to policy lynch a hardcore lurker. Another option is to lynch Nicolas. Chaoser said he'll probably be modkilled anyway?

Anything seems better than leaving it so that a mobster switches before the end with some bullshit excuse and we mislynch a townie due to derp. Or WBG jumps and we can't even retaliate by vig shotting him.


You "Guess you could add Evantrees to your lynch targets?" What the crap? This entire post is just asking other people to make decisions for you.

Don't read shit into it that's not there. I don't want to policy-lynch, I want to lynch Mattchew, but that is clearly not going to happen. Rather than wasting my vote there and having whoever the fuck wants switch at the last second to mislynch a useful townie, I'd rather policy-lynch a lurker or someone who's going to get modkilled. I chose the modkilled.

Now stop confusing shit more than it is already and consolidate your own vote somewhere useful, or make a better case against Oberyn, because so far it has been: he's useless. He is a lot LESS useless than Evantrees or Nicolas, so if that's your criteria, your vote's in the wrong place.

I'm almost positive Acro is scum, and Mattchew needs to be checked tonight. VOTE ACROFALES

On March 23 2012 23:08 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 21:11 Mattchew wrote:
lol coming from littlefinger i dont suspect it will hold much weight


Unfortunately it does not, we don't know his sanity. If someone were to check you tonight and confirm then maybe it would.


There we go, so why no Mattchew check?
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March 25 2012 21:29 GMT
#928
On a game with no rolecheckers? Your defense is getting really weak.
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March 25 2012 21:35 GMT
#931
*Facepalm* I really hope for your sake that you are mafia, because if you flip DT then you are the scummiest town I've ever seen. And the reason I made the argument is to be sure of the lynch today.
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March 25 2012 21:42 GMT
#933
On March 26 2012 06:39 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2012 06:34 Risen wrote:
I'm done for a while. Can't keep arguing in circles. I think my logic is clear, you don't. It's over.

Sounds more like, "before I had the foresight to plan a DT claim I tried directing DTs into Mattchew and now I'm grasping at straws trying to make the statement make sense in retrospect"


Exactly my argument.
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March 26 2012 11:55 GMT
#949
Also as one final nail in the coffin Risen, if you were dt and sure that acro was scum, why bother checking him at all?
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March 26 2012 16:31 GMT
#956
On March 26 2012 21:50 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2012 20:55 Zealos wrote:
Also as one final nail in the coffin Risen, if you were dt and sure that acro was scum, why bother checking him at all?
wut?

It's pretty simple. If you are sure someone is mafia, then checking them isn't useful.
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March 26 2012 16:59 GMT
#963
Not risen then?
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March 26 2012 17:08 GMT
#966
I don't know if I've missed something, but I'm not sure why acro is under doubt?
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March 26 2012 17:30 GMT
#972
On March 27 2012 02:23 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 01:31 Zealos wrote:
On March 26 2012 21:50 Mattchew wrote:
On March 26 2012 20:55 Zealos wrote:
Also as one final nail in the coffin Risen, if you were dt and sure that acro was scum, why bother checking him at all?
wut?

It's pretty simple. If you are sure someone is mafia, then checking them isn't useful.

I'll put it this way. I am sure that Xatalos is scum, and if I was a DT I would check him to confirm. Nothing is 100% in this game and there is never too much information. Confirming your beliefs is the most important thing you can do
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 02:08 Zealos wrote:
I don't know if I've missed something, but I'm not sure why acro is under doubt?

Risen could be DT and acro could have checked out as scum?

Then by definition you can't be sure. As for acro, if the only argument for him being mafia is Risen being DT then I have no reason to think he's mafia unless Risen flips DT tonight.
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March 26 2012 17:35 GMT
#974
My argument against risen is not that he isn't playing well, but that he is lying. Lying is either mafia, or a town that is detrimental to the town atmosphere. Either way - Lynch.
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March 26 2012 17:37 GMT
#976
Being DT.
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March 26 2012 18:04 GMT
#978
Aha, this is where it gets good, and if you'd had read the thread properly, you'd see I had pretty sound reasoning for this:

On March 24 2012 07:25 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 07:21 Acrofales wrote:
On March 24 2012 07:15 GreYMisT wrote:
On March 24 2012 07:10 Acrofales wrote:
Lol. Are we seriously putting our lynch in the hands of either mafia or littlefinger?! This is really retarded. However, I have no idea where to put my vote. My earlier reads were Mattchew, Gumshoe and Zealos. Nobody else seems to want to vote for them, although for the life of me I don't know why not.

I guess I could add Evantrees to my lynch targets, if we're going to policy lynch a hardcore lurker. Another option is to lynch Nicolas. Chaoser said he'll probably be modkilled anyway?

Anything seems better than leaving it so that a mobster switches before the end with some bullshit excuse and we mislynch a townie due to derp. Or WBG jumps and we can't even retaliate by vig shotting him.


You "Guess you could add Evantrees to your lynch targets?" What the crap? This entire post is just asking other people to make decisions for you.

Don't read shit into it that's not there. I don't want to policy-lynch, I want to lynch Mattchew, but that is clearly not going to happen. Rather than wasting my vote there and having whoever the fuck wants switch at the last second to mislynch a useful townie, I'd rather policy-lynch a lurker or someone who's going to get modkilled. I chose the modkilled.

Now stop confusing shit more than it is already and consolidate your own vote somewhere useful, or make a better case against Oberyn, because so far it has been: he's useless. He is a lot LESS useless than Evantrees or Nicolas, so if that's your criteria, your vote's in the wrong place.

I'm almost positive Acro is scum, and Mattchew needs to be checked tonight. VOTE ACROFALES

On March 23 2012 23:08 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 21:11 Mattchew wrote:
lol coming from littlefinger i dont suspect it will hold much weight


Unfortunately it does not, we don't know his sanity. If someone were to check you tonight and confirm then maybe it would.

Why on earth if he said this, and he was DT, didn't he check Mattchew last night? It makes no sense whatsoever, instead he claims he checked Acro, and backed up his argument by saying he thought a rolechecker should check Mattchew (derp)
On March 26 2012 07:32 chaoser wrote:
Not to mention even if there was a rolechecker it is a flawed argument, as summed up here by chaoser:
This isn't a good excuse even IF rolechecker WAS a role. Why would you take a risk and depend on someone else to do your job? Why not do it yourself? That doesn't even make any sense. That's like saying, I want to check this guy, but oh well, I won't. I'll check this other guy that I already am sure is mafia and hope that 1) someone else checks the guy I want to know about and 2) they then out themselves somehow to give us that information. WTF?

##vote: risen

Most of this argument is explained in easy to understand terms by WBG:
On March 26 2012 06:39 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2012 06:34 Risen wrote:
I'm done for a while. Can't keep arguing in circles. I think my logic is clear, you don't. It's over.


herp derp I wanted a rolechecker to check Mattchew herp derp without even checking that there was a rolechecker herp derp my logic makes sense no matter what you say herp derp despite the fact that you just showed it's complete shit herp derp herp

Sounds more like, "before I had the foresight to plan a DT claim I tried directing DTs into Mattchew and now I'm grasping at straws trying to make the statement make sense in retrospect"



On top of which, he completely avoids answering my direct question:
On March 26 2012 06:12 Zealos wrote:
Even if you flipped DT, there is no reason that puts me into a scum position. You are just using threats as an attempt to stop me from pressing my case. Give us a good reason to believe you're DT, before I roleclaim as Godfather and claim you're one of my mafia buddies, as your reasoning is that roleclaims are always truthful.


Not to mention calling me and others scum with very very little to no evidence to back up his claims:

On March 26 2012 05:29 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2012 05:21 Zealos wrote:
Risen first, when he inevitably flips vanilla scum we can move on.


EBWOP: And he solidifies his "really dumb townie" position well here (If I didn't make it clear in my previous post I think he's scum, I think Mattchew is scum, and I think Greymist is scum). He'll OMGUS me once I'm lynched and be in the clear. He deserves looking into tonight, imo.


The only argument he's made against anyone is the whole "I'm DT, lynch Acro" Doesn't this smack you as mindbogglingly stupid?
Risen is the lynch we should make today, with absolutely no exceptions, he is super scummy.
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March 26 2012 18:06 GMT
#980
Oh, and the only argument against me is that I am voting and making a case against him. If anyone can show me anything he's done right, he might have some kind of defense.
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March 26 2012 18:23 GMT
#983
That post was... incredibly irrelevant? I'm saying as anything, whether or not he is DT, what has he done pro-town?
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#993
On March 27 2012 03:26 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 03:04 Zealos wrote:
Aha, this is where it gets good, and if you'd had read the thread properly, you'd see I had pretty sound reasoning for this:

On March 24 2012 07:25 Risen wrote:
On March 24 2012 07:21 Acrofales wrote:
On March 24 2012 07:15 GreYMisT wrote:
On March 24 2012 07:10 Acrofales wrote:
Lol. Are we seriously putting our lynch in the hands of either mafia or littlefinger?! This is really retarded. However, I have no idea where to put my vote. My earlier reads were Mattchew, Gumshoe and Zealos. Nobody else seems to want to vote for them, although for the life of me I don't know why not.

I guess I could add Evantrees to my lynch targets, if we're going to policy lynch a hardcore lurker. Another option is to lynch Nicolas. Chaoser said he'll probably be modkilled anyway?

Anything seems better than leaving it so that a mobster switches before the end with some bullshit excuse and we mislynch a townie due to derp. Or WBG jumps and we can't even retaliate by vig shotting him.


You "Guess you could add Evantrees to your lynch targets?" What the crap? This entire post is just asking other people to make decisions for you.

Don't read shit into it that's not there. I don't want to policy-lynch, I want to lynch Mattchew, but that is clearly not going to happen. Rather than wasting my vote there and having whoever the fuck wants switch at the last second to mislynch a useful townie, I'd rather policy-lynch a lurker or someone who's going to get modkilled. I chose the modkilled.

Now stop confusing shit more than it is already and consolidate your own vote somewhere useful, or make a better case against Oberyn, because so far it has been: he's useless. He is a lot LESS useless than Evantrees or Nicolas, so if that's your criteria, your vote's in the wrong place.

I'm almost positive Acro is scum, and Mattchew needs to be checked tonight. VOTE ACROFALES

On March 23 2012 23:08 Risen wrote:
On March 23 2012 21:11 Mattchew wrote:
lol coming from littlefinger i dont suspect it will hold much weight


Unfortunately it does not, we don't know his sanity. If someone were to check you tonight and confirm then maybe it would.

Why on earth if he said this, and he was DT, didn't he check Mattchew last night? It makes no sense whatsoever, instead he claims he checked Acro, and backed up his argument by saying he thought a rolechecker should check Mattchew (derp)

Once again, if you are DT and you think someone is scum you check them. You always confirm them. He could have checked me the next night.
-You're argument "He did the wrong thing"
Show nested quote +

On March 26 2012 07:32 chaoser wrote:
Not to mention even if there was a rolechecker it is a flawed argument, as summed up here by chaoser:
This isn't a good excuse even IF rolechecker WAS a role. Why would you take a risk and depend on someone else to do your job? Why not do it yourself? That doesn't even make any sense. That's like saying, I want to check this guy, but oh well, I won't. I'll check this other guy that I already am sure is mafia and hope that 1) someone else checks the guy I want to know about and 2) they then out themselves somehow to give us that information. WTF?

##vote: risen

Most of this argument is explained in easy to understand terms by WBG:
On March 26 2012 06:39 wherebugsgo wrote:
On March 26 2012 06:34 Risen wrote:
I'm done for a while. Can't keep arguing in circles. I think my logic is clear, you don't. It's over.


herp derp I wanted a rolechecker to check Mattchew herp derp without even checking that there was a rolechecker herp derp my logic makes sense no matter what you say herp derp despite the fact that you just showed it's complete shit herp derp herp

Sounds more like, "before I had the foresight to plan a DT claim I tried directing DTs into Mattchew and now I'm grasping at straws trying to make the statement make sense in retrospect"



The rolechecker thing is the only thing I don't understand. The desperation of explaining himself is a little scummy. Also, for giggles
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 03:29 Zealos wrote:
On the topic of Wherebugsgo, I'd love to completely ignore him if possible, though I doubt that will end up happening....

Show nested quote +

On top of which, he completely avoids answering my direct question:
On March 26 2012 06:12 Zealos wrote:
Even if you flipped DT, there is no reason that puts me into a scum position. You are just using threats as an attempt to stop me from pressing my case. Give us a good reason to believe you're DT, before I roleclaim as Godfather and claim you're one of my mafia buddies, as your reasoning is that roleclaims are always truthful.


Not to mention calling me and others scum with very very little to no evidence to back up his claims:

On March 26 2012 05:29 Risen wrote:
On March 26 2012 05:21 Zealos wrote:
Risen first, when he inevitably flips vanilla scum we can move on.


EBWOP: And he solidifies his "really dumb townie" position well here (If I didn't make it clear in my previous post I think he's scum, I think Mattchew is scum, and I think Greymist is scum). He'll OMGUS me once I'm lynched and be in the clear. He deserves looking into tonight, imo.


The only argument he's made against anyone is the whole "I'm DT, lynch Acro" Doesn't this smack you as mindbogglingly stupid?
Risen is the lynch we should make today, with absolutely no exceptions, he is super scummy.

This all reads "I'm mad."

It all it reads is "I'm mad" then you clearly need to read better. What reasoning do we have to believe he is DT?
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March 26 2012 19:03 GMT
#999
Ok, I was going to wait until tomorrow, however, his most recent post just tipped me over the edge.
Mattchew is the 2nd mafia, and my lynch choice for tomorrow.
He very rarely makes useful posts, and right from the start has posted a ton of spam and filler.
Examples:
On March 22 2012 00:25 Mattchew wrote:
lolololololol

im going to assume this is sandroba?

oh so your his scum teammate?

explain to me why you are not scum.

you have 90 minutes

where you at homeslice and why should i think you are not scum

wut?

OMG 5 WHOLE POSTS ABOUT HIM 3 OF WHICH ARE NOT EVEN SERIOUS? NO WAYYYYY

wbg you know better than that, I thought you wanted to help town

i said it here too herpderp speaking in absolutes is not scum slipping herpderp

my first game ever where I was scared to post.
(Apparently not)
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me and SLG <3 vague posts.
(Irony)

btw defense is completely overrated. I do it cause i have too much fucking time to hawk the thread


I'm down with ignoring risen wbg acro And mr zentos completely

Welcome to TL Mafia.

wut?

you have to be joking

When was the last time he made a decent case against anyone? He appears to stir up controversy and limit discussion wherever he goes.
He's also one of the only people really defending Risen, so there could be a possible link there. However, this will be much more apparent should Risen flip mafia tonight (Assuming lynch)
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March 26 2012 19:22 GMT
#1002
Because sheeping like that is very scummy imo.
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March 26 2012 20:19 GMT
#1006
Perfect, new person, fresh perspective. Top 3 lynch tagets Jitsu?
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Zealos
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March 26 2012 20:44 GMT
#1009
Oh yeah mate, I'm not expecting it in the next 10 mins or anything, take your time
Just interested to see what a fresh person thinks of current ongoings.
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March 27 2012 07:28 GMT
#1032
What the, how does this even :X
Well, I guess we've gotta be very suspicious of Acro at this point.
@Mattchew Considering the town's activeness, it's better you post it sooner rather than later. Posting reads right before deadline means some people won't see it on time + Limits discussion.
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March 27 2012 09:59 GMT
#1038
On March 27 2012 18:40 risk.nuke wrote:
We don't need a case, we got a redcheck. Acro. Sit down shut up.

Mods can we have a 24 hour day today if town agrees on it? There won't be or well you don't know with the ratio of morons in this city but there shouldn't be much confusion about who we're lynching.

This is never good for town, even if we know who we are lynching, we should still make progress towards the next days lynch ect.
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March 27 2012 11:56 GMT
#1044
Mattchew, can you make a good case instead of posting annoying 1 liners designed to stir up controversy, or should I just vote for you now?
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March 27 2012 16:11 GMT
#1058
I'm split between Acro and Matt for lynching tomorrow, but at the moment Risen flipping DT is just too great an evidence to ignore, so I'll be voting Acro for now.
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March 27 2012 17:13 GMT
#1067
On March 28 2012 01:59 Mattchew wrote:
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On March 27 2012 16:28 Zealos wrote:
What the, how does this even :X
Well, I guess we've gotta be very suspicious of Acro at this point.
@Mattchew Considering the town's activeness, it's better you post it sooner rather than later. Posting reads right before deadline means some people won't see it on time + Limits discussion.

Missed this piece of shit post.
i am posting it before a night deadline... giving people 48 hours to read and discuss.

Calling it a shit post is just another poor attempt of yours to cause problems within the town? But fair enough, I thought you meant right before the post deadline :3
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March 27 2012 17:35 GMT
#1070
But a disrupted town atmosphere aids mafia, not town.
I have suspicions toward you, though I am more inclined to say you're just an annoying townie.
I'll post a better answer to that question when the day starts, I wanna have a good read over the thread/filters to decide.
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March 27 2012 17:37 GMT
#1071
I would also say that I'm not 100% sure acro is scum, though he is by far the best lynch for tomorrow.
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March 27 2012 20:47 GMT
#1079
The 2nd comment was a responce to something Risen said. I was never 100% that I wanted to vote for him, and should the same situation occur, I'd vote for the same person. As for my 2 last posts, neither of them claim I am 100%, they're pretty similar. 1st - I'll be voting acro for now
2nd - Not 100% sure, but best lynch for tomorrow.

I however, am waiting with baited breath for Mattchew's current reads, because I feel that he is contributing little to nothing so far.
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March 27 2012 20:48 GMT
#1080
Oh, and Alderan, can I ask who you think is town?
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March 28 2012 10:03 GMT
#1117
On March 28 2012 06:32 Mattchew wrote:
My Scum (aka to-lynch) List = Acrofales, Zealos, Xatalos, Lyter, Evantrees
But Mattchew, there are 5 names and only 4 scum. WTF?
I believe if we lynch this list we get the scum team.



Acrofales has a red-check on him from a confirmed DT, he needs to be lynched tomorrow no matter what. Thats all, end of story.



Zealos This is my strongest scum read.

First we have his contradictions with how to interact with WBG. He seems to be selectively deaf to WBG using him only to his personal benefit as seen here.
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On March 22 2012 03:29 Zealos wrote:
On the topic of Wherebugsgo, I'd love to completely ignore him if possible, though I doubt that will end up happening....

On March 22 2012 03:57 Zealos wrote:
I think our best bet in regard to WBG is to completely ignore his posts, unless he gives us damn good reason not to.

On March 25 2012 23:36 Zealos wrote:
Risen seems to be the hot topic, so I'll start with him
I'm calling him as Mafia
My biggest reasons for this is that he consistently switches topics to talk about wbg, even though it is widely agreed that we should just be ignoring him

On March 27 2012 03:04 Zealos wrote:

Most of this argument is explained in easy to understand terms by WBG:
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On March 26 2012 06:39 wherebugsgo wrote:
On March 26 2012 06:34 Risen wrote:
I'm done for a while. Can't keep arguing in circles. I think my logic is clear, you don't. It's over.


herp derp I wanted a rolechecker to check Mattchew herp derp without even checking that there was a rolechecker herp derp my logic makes sense no matter what you say herp derp despite the fact that you just showed it's complete shit herp derp herp

Sounds more like, "before I had the foresight to plan a DT claim I tried directing DTs into Mattchew and now I'm grasping at straws trying to make the statement make sense in retrospect"



On March 26 2012 06:42 Zealos wrote:
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On March 26 2012 06:39 wherebugsgo wrote:
On March 26 2012 06:34 Risen wrote:
I'm done for a while. Can't keep arguing in circles. I think my logic is clear, you don't. It's over.

Sounds more like, "before I had the foresight to plan a DT claim I tried directing DTs into Mattchew and now I'm grasping at straws trying to make the statement make sense in retrospect"


Exactly my argument.

Then we have Zealos arguing in absolutes about Risen flipping scum. This feels like him trying to blend in with the majority opinion. Also, if Risen wasn't lynched its a backhanded way of saving Acro from lynch by discrediting Risen's DT claim.
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On March 26 2012 05:21 Zealos wrote:
Risen first, when he inevitably flips vanilla scum we can move on.

On March 27 2012 02:35 Zealos wrote:
My argument against risen is not that he isn't playing well, but that he is lying. Lying is either mafia, or a town that is detrimental to the town atmosphere. Either way - Lynch.


He also constantly flirts with the topic of getting me lynched but never actually pushes it. He is waiting for it to actually gain momentum before he pushes it.He also constantly flirts with the topic of getting me lynched but never actually pushes it. He is waiting for it to actually gain momentum before he pushes it.
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On March 23 2012 04:43 Zealos wrote:
@Acro
Matthew is... Weird. He makes some perfectly valid points, but also seems to make some rather moot ones. Although looking at the filter, he makes a LOT of accusations, without having all that much reason. For instance
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oh so your his scum teammate?

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explain to me why you are not scum.

you have 90 minutes

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then MrZentor, bad reading comprehension in hand, makes a terrible post with his lead point of his slippery slope theory being untrue because Mattchew (who is awesome, sexy and lover of all townies) never even voted for Acrofales!

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i say we lynch acrofales and everyone that has defended him

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I would be all about a Xatalos lynching today. He posts reek of "I want to look like the rest of you"

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We should lynch Oberyn

He seems to constantly switch targets, and it seems like he wants to stir up confusion. Although he almost seems too obvious in the way he does it, which could just be bad town.

Summary: I would certainly say suspicious, but not 100% mafia yet, but should no better targets appear, would be a reasonable day 1 lynch.

On March 23 2012 04:44 Zealos wrote:
Not to mention him being incredibly anti Acrofales.

He never votes me and his vote ends up as THE ONLY VOTE on Oberyn?

On March 27 2012 04:03 Zealos wrote:
Ok, I was going to wait until tomorrow, however, his most recent post just tipped me over the edge.
Mattchew is the 2nd mafia, and my lynch choice for tomorrow.
He very rarely makes useful posts, and right from the start has posted a ton of spam and filler.
Examples:
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On March 22 2012 00:25 Mattchew wrote:
lolololololol

im going to assume this is sandroba?

oh so your his scum teammate?

explain to me why you are not scum.

you have 90 minutes

where you at homeslice and why should i think you are not scum

wut?

OMG 5 WHOLE POSTS ABOUT HIM 3 OF WHICH ARE NOT EVEN SERIOUS? NO WAYYYYY

wbg you know better than that, I thought you wanted to help town

i said it here too herpderp speaking in absolutes is not scum slipping herpderp

my first game ever where I was scared to post.
(Apparently not)
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me and SLG <3 vague posts.
(Irony)

btw defense is completely overrated. I do it cause i have too much fucking time to hawk the thread


I'm down with ignoring risen wbg acro And mr zentos completely

Welcome to TL Mafia.

wut?

you have to be joking

When was the last time he made a decent case against anyone? He appears to stir up controversy and limit discussion wherever he goes.
He's also one of the only people really defending Risen, so there could be a possible link there. However, this will be much more apparent should Risen flip mafia tonight (Assuming lynch)

Case against Mattchew. Cool. Terrible case with a ton of quotes taken out of context. Vaguely calling them all spam and having no content. Oh and I defended the town DT, this should of ended his “case” and “pressure" right there but then we have…
On March 27 2012 20:56 Zealos wrote:
Mattchew, can you make a good case instead of posting annoying 1 liners designed to stir up controversy, or should I just vote for you now?

Fine, you don’t like my posting style... lynch me… But after reading how obvious it is to lynch acro, Zealos has a brand new (wishy-washy) trying to blend in point of view.
On March 28 2012 01:11 Zealos wrote:
I'm split between Acro and Matt for lynching tomorrow, but at the moment Risen flipping DT is just too great an evidence to ignore, so I'll be voting Acro for now.

Well no shit. But since you can’t edit the fact you had to see the majority of town think this first screams of scummy agenda trying to get a mislynch on me.
On March 28 2012 02:35 Zealos wrote:
But a disrupted town atmosphere aids mafia, not town.
I have suspicions toward you, though I am more inclined to say you're just an annoying townie.
I'll post a better answer to that question when the day starts, I wanna have a good read over the thread/filters to decide.

Wait…. HOLD THE FUCKING PHONE… I am NOW just an annoying TOWNIE??????? WHAT THE FUCK… There isn’t even close to a reason for this, just straight up change of opinion. (wish wash wish wash wish wash)
On March 28 2012 02:37 Zealos wrote:
I would also say that I'm not 100% sure acro is scum, though he is by far the best lynch for tomorrow.

Oh man lets cover all the bases and not take a lick of responsibility for anything!

I quoted this in there but i would love to point out this scum-slip. He somehow knows he will be alive after the night post
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On March 28 2012 02:35 Zealos wrote:
I'll post a better answer to that question when the day starts, I wanna have a good read over the thread/filters to decide.

Furthermore he tries to do the trendy townie thing of pressuring people by way of vote. Man does he really get swayed quickly
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On March 22 2012 04:12 Zealos wrote:
#Original Name
Lets try to get him talking

On March 23 2012 04:58 Zealos wrote:
Well, my vote was to provoke a post like that, which is good enough for me.
##unvote

1 post, that wasn't even very good. That's it. This screams of nervous scum

This case is farrrrrrr from hinging on Acro flipping scum, but if he were to, tell me these posts don't scream of an attempt to coach a teammate while "pressuring" him
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On March 22 2012 22:17 Zealos wrote:
My thoughts:
Acro:
Why have you still not given some definitive thoughts? I asked a couple of pages ago and there is still nothing, are you just avoiding the question? The only people you say should be lynched atm are Lurkers, of which I am one, even though I have been fairly active. You made a point against gumshoe but haven't really elaborated or spoken of it since. I want to see you actually follow through on what you are saying.
So overall, so far, my Lynch list would be:
1. Acro

In response to Acro posting a case (on me)
On March 22 2012 23:46 Zealos wrote:
I think it is good that you have made an argument against someone using substance, however, it is somewhat less poignient given the substance of his latest post. However, you have constructed a more useful post and formed an opinion, so although I am still a little susipcious, as you basically back down from your own argument, I will change my vote for the time being.


Finally we have these 2 quotes which are just so bad they actually look like scum agenda.
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On March 27 2012 01:31 Zealos wrote:
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On March 26 2012 21:50 Mattchew wrote:
On March 26 2012 20:55 Zealos wrote:
Also as one final nail in the coffin Risen, if you were dt and sure that acro was scum, why bother checking him at all?
wut?

It's pretty simple. If you are sure someone is mafia, then checking them isn't useful.

On March 27 2012 05:19 Zealos wrote:
Perfect, new person, fresh perspective. Top 3 lynch tagets Jitsu?

I AM SCARED OF THE NEW GUY TELL ME WHAT YOU KNOW!



Xatalos I have been calling him scum and asking for opinions on him all game. Ald also did a pretty nice post on him

*click me*My First case

*click me*Ald on Xat

I'll try to not be redundant.
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On March 27 2012 21:36 Xatalos wrote:
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On March 27 2012 20:17 Mattchew wrote:
On March 27 2012 19:08 Xatalos wrote:
I'm a bit curious about his breadcrumbs though... Is he preparing for a roleclaim later? Like MrZentor did with his "code"? If worse comes to worst, we might lose another blue this way... I'd say shooting him is still a good bet though, or we might waste day 3 completely AND end up using the lynch on Acrofales anyway.

Oh so you want to out more blues?

Cool. Thanks for claiming scum in thread


Could you make an actual case against me instead of throwing a one liner at me every time I say something? The way I see it, you just panicked after I made my initial lynch vote for you and started throwing baseless one liners at me to somehow make yourself look "less suspicious" by making me look "more suspicious". All this seems like a scared counter-pressure to shift the attention away from yourself. Frankly, I can't think of a reason why a townie would be tunneling so hard on me after I merely made an analytic decision to vote for you (although I switched to gumshoe after I saw his newer posts). The only conclusion I can think of is that you are a Mafia player trying to get me lynched (not very skillfully, I might add), only because I suspected you.

I see you made some sort of a "case" against me right after I voted for you, which revolved around me being a bit unsure on who to lynch. This is my first game game of Mafia (in a forum), so of course I wouldn't be 100% confident and decisive in my first posts, but I've been trying to improve and I think I'm a lot more confident in my skills now (there aren't many veterans here either, so it's not really necessary to trust other people's opinions...). And what of it if I use smilies every now and then?

Please, make a good case against me or stop that useless spam!

Funny because Xatalos has yet to make a case on anyone. He took the retarded WBG "lynch Risen" logic of "He is playing too bad to be scum" and translated that into 2 lengthy contentless posts and threw in some thread observations (no real opinions on anything just recaps)
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On March 27 2012 23:00 Xatalos wrote:
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On March 27 2012 21:50 Acrofales wrote:
Okay, I'll bite. You're also following the same stupid reasoning here that Greymist, risk.nuke and Mattchew want to jump on. You suspect I might be blue, but you think it is better to kill me than confirm? Losing a vigi and a DT isn't enough for you?


I'm not saying you are a blue, I'm saying I'm 50/50 on whether you are a Mafia pretending to be a blue or an actual blue. There's no way you're a green townie, with your breadcrumbing pointing at a specific role. I don't personally think you're the best lynch target either, but since most people seem focused on lynching you tomorrow, vigi shooting you would save day 3 from being wasted on your lynch (no matter if you're Mafia or town).

(I have to say though, if Risen hadn't flipped DT, you would seem like the more convincing blue so far. But if day 3 is going to be wasted on your lynch anyway, there's not much point to leave you alive for tomorrow...).

He is wishy washy while coming to obscure conclusions. Even I will entertain the thought that Acro is vanilla town but Xatalos seems convinced he's a blue? This is bizarre and looks like he has been hunting for blues breadcrumbs all game. (Townies should only care about who is town and who is scum, not who has a role.)


Also, if you take the time to read through his filter you can see he is still blaming things on this being his first game. This smells of scum trying to compensate for slipping up by saying "oh I didn't know any better".




Alas I have ran out of time (6:00PM EST Class) Lyter and evantrees are lurking and scummy. HA!


What an awful case on me. The idea of me coaching Acro as a scum teammate has gotta be some of the biggest crap I've ever read. Why would I post it in the main thread instaed of just putting it in the mafia thread?
Also, me asking jitsu about his lynch targets scummy? If you follow that logic, that is pretty much all you've done ALL GAME so you've gotta be scum on your own logic?
And lets say I was scum, and knew that Risen wasn't mafia then why would I be the one posting the hardest case agaisnt him even though he was almost certainly gonna get lynched anyway?
Now I'm done defending myself agaisnt your cesspool of a case, I'll go back to looking for scum
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Zealos
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March 28 2012 19:04 GMT
#1173
To be honest Mattchew, I have nothing more to defend myself from. The town can read the thread so far, and make an educated decision about whether I am town or scum. I'll be looking over what has been said so far now we know you're town and acro scum, and see about a viable next target.
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March 29 2012 08:21 GMT
#1197
I think with Mattchew still playing and trying to lead the town on with his terrible leads is gonna lead to a mafia win, that being said, he clearly isn't scum.
I wanna hear more from Greymist
##vote Greymist
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Zealos
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March 29 2012 08:43 GMT
#1198
Lol, night time, derp.
Though after reading over Grey's filter it does seem "Convineint" that whenever the town gets a false lead such as risen, he becomes quiet and leaves us to lynch him, no words for or agaisnt.
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March 29 2012 12:35 GMT
#1200
Changed my mind, I'll vote for someone that no one else suspects, because then I'll look unique and townie. Mattchew, please, stop being an idiot, it doesn't matter what I say or do at this point, you've decided in your screwed up logic that I'm mafia, so please, lynch me, so the rest of the town see's what a retard you are and stops listening to your bullshit reads.
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March 29 2012 15:18 GMT
#1205
On March 29 2012 21:46 GreYMisT wrote:
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On March 29 2012 17:43 Zealos wrote:
Lol, night time, derp.
Though after reading over Grey's filter it does seem "Convineint" that whenever the town gets a false lead such as risen, he becomes quiet and leaves us to lynch him, no words for or agaisnt.


I voted for risen....

Yes, but without much reasoning, and you seemed to be pretty happy just to blend in.
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March 29 2012 18:36 GMT
#1214
I really don't understand what makes me a good lynch target. Day 1 I called out Acro for being suspicious for his first post. I mean, I might have been trying to blend in, but it surely it would have been easier and less suspicious for Acro had I not said anything? Also, when Risen was being lynched anyway, surely as a mafia it would have been better to just vote and not say much, instead I was the one most pushing for the lynch. Why would I put the effort forward to do that as mafia if I knew that he was going to be killed anyway?
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March 29 2012 18:51 GMT
#1217
On March 30 2012 03:43 Mattchew wrote:
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On March 30 2012 03:29 Xatalos wrote:

Zealos: Apparently some think he's suspicious, but I don't really see it. He's been very active, contributing and created a pro-town atmosphere. Unless I see something damning from him, I'm not willing to vote for him. Verdict: Bad lynch.

So he has been "active, contributing and created a pro-town atmosphere." 2 of these have literally 0 to do with alignment. And his dumbass argument with me about Risen was actually disruptive as fuck to the thread during that day.
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risk.nuke: I was a bit suspicious of him after his first posts, but his later posts have been a lot more contributive. I'm not sold on either his innocence or guiltiness yet. Verdict: Medium lynch.

"If you guys start to vote risk.nuke i will too because he's town and I like lynching townies" - this paraphrased
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Alderan: He hasn't contributed very much, but isn't really a lurker either. Not a very bad lynch choice, but not among the best. Verdict: Medium lynch.

chaoser: Clearly has experience in playing, but hasn't contributed much, disregarding some of the more trivial discussion. A semi-lurker who doesn't look very pro-town, but not anti-town either. Verdict: Medium lynch.

Lyter: Has contributed little and posted seldom. Something feels off, but not a top lynch yet. Verdict: Medium lynch.

sinensis: Doesn't look very interested in adding to the discussion, voting without much explanation or contribution. Apparently suspects evantrees mainly, but doesn't push his lynch other than voting for him. Verdict: Medium lynch.

evantrees: A hardcore lurker without real contribution. Certainly feels a bit suspicious, but could also be a disinterested townie. Verdict: Medium lynch.

Wish-wash no firm stance
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GreYMisT: Also an experienced player, but hasn't contributed much or often. Was the runner-up in day 1 lynch, but wasn't voted by even a single Mafia player. Both him and chaoser haven't done much to help town, but GreYMisT feels more suspicious to me. Verdict: Good lynch.

meh idk. I haven't seen a decent case against greymist and it looks like risk.nuke's relentless pushing (without much content) is snowballing up.

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So, I'll probably be voting for GreYMisT tomorrow if I can.

barring unforeseen circumstances I cannot see this being a good decision.

I know this might be shocking, and really hard for you to understand, but when 2 people disagree and argue, it's both people arguing. If you don't like me disagreeing with you then disagree, but don't try to make a vote out of it.
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March 29 2012 19:34 GMT
#1221
You actually mean... I tried to... Justify my vote instead of just blending in with the crowd. Wow, as a mafia I really fucked that one up eh?
I'm also going to stop responding to you Mattchew (Which I should have done ages ago) Because it is just a back and forth getting no where and tunneling the discussion.

I want to hear from Xata and Grey.
Thoughts on people's suspicions?
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March 29 2012 20:50 GMT
#1223
So Grey, you planning on defending yourself or switching the topic back to me again?
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March 30 2012 07:22 GMT
#1239
This game is so stupid at this point.
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March 30 2012 07:27 GMT
#1240
Well, I may as well stick with my idea of Grey.
##Vote Greymist
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March 30 2012 10:13 GMT
#1243
I know, I won't vote until near the deadline for the voting thread. The votes in here is just my current desision.
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March 30 2012 15:18 GMT
#1245
Wow, you really do like to pick at every little thing. I do it because I'm lazy, and it's the easiest thing to do. The votes here is the vote I would chose if I were the end of the day. You really are determined for a bandwagon against me, and it's really starting to show.
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March 30 2012 15:31 GMT
#1248
Greymist, Kohbee, both scum. Your whole post consisted of defending greymist, then agreeing with greymist on what was already a shit case based on pedantics. You say I have no solid opinions despite me saying that I find Grey scummy, and the irony of you talking about riding on other people's opinions is pretty sad.

Also, having a go at someone for giving you the benefit of the doubt? You seem awfully keen to stir up whatever trouble you can.

I'll be voting Grey today, and Kohbee tomorrow. I'm off for a bit now, later.
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March 30 2012 17:14 GMT
#1250
I like how you pick and chose certain posts, while ignoring the ones where I just say that he's a bad townie, not mafia, not to mention only suspecting Mattchew had Risen flipped mafia.

Oh, and lying about what you posted earlier in a page in a thread is pretty stupid:
Your lynch system is awfully scummy in my opinion. It looks like you are trying to blend in with opinions but don't want to take a firm stance anywhere but Greymist.
-- The sort of soft defence that suits mafia trying to defend one another while not being too conspicuous.

Then
I completely agree with GreYMisT. You have had next to no solid opinions and seem to want to ride the coattails of others while only fighting over opinions that you knew others agreed with you on. I think you are scum. I will be voting for you.
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March 30 2012 17:26 GMT
#1252
Ok, lets just take it nice and slowly for you. What is a solid opinion?
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March 30 2012 17:29 GMT
#1253
Also, if you bring up suspicions about Mattchew from the start of the game, does that mean Acro being my first, and number one target at the start of the match make me confirmed townie? Stop picking one or 2 of my posts, and if you look at my overall posting you will see it is pro-town.
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March 30 2012 18:55 GMT
#1255
So you avoid the really basic question I asked, only to post a very irrelevant quote. At the time Mattchew was very very anti Acro when it was unwarranted. I still voted for him, and this was just to point out he was somewhat tunnelling. He also switched vote off acro later that day, and he wasn't mafia.

Please, instead of just throwing quotes out here there and everywhere, can you make a case that means something, because at the moment, you are useless to the town even if I was mafia.
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March 30 2012 19:30 GMT
#1257
I wasn't even responding to you?

God, this game is like, designed for trolls that go round making rubbish arguments over the internet :X

Oh well, what can you do, hopefully other people in the game see sense, and if not, you and Kohbee both look super suspicious when I get lynched.
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March 31 2012 11:22 GMT
#1264
I'm voting for Grey because I think he's scum. If I try to make a case against him I become scum, because being an active townie makes you scum according to a lot of the people in this thread.

As for the case against Xata, I have to agree with what you've said, he's clearly quite a waffler, but I want to see him respond to it before taking a firm stance (Does this make me mafia too? )
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April 01 2012 11:47 GMT
#1290
Sorry, didn't get a chance to check over the thread before the lynch.

Won't get a chance to have a proper look over the thread till tonight, but I'll try to post something useful then.
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April 01 2012 18:12 GMT
#1293
I hope I don't seem scummy saying this, but, I have no real idea's. So far my reads have been pretty bad, and I'm struggling to think of anything.

If anyone has idea's I'd be up for discussing ect.
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April 02 2012 00:20 GMT
#1298
Tell me why Xatalos is scum in as few words as possible. (Not saying I don't agree with you)
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April 02 2012 02:31 GMT
#1309
On April 02 2012 11:04 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 20:47 Zealos wrote:
Sorry, didn't get a chance to check over the thread before the lynch.

Won't get a chance to have a proper look over the thread till tonight, but I'll try to post something useful then.


Show nested quote +
On April 02 2012 03:12 Zealos wrote:
I hope I don't seem scummy saying this, but, I have no real idea's. So far my reads have been pretty bad, and I'm struggling to think of anything.

If anyone has idea's I'd be up for discussing ect.


nothing "useful" yet lol.

##vote risk.nuke

BTW, we're at LYLO. It's 5 v 3 right now. If WBG is voting with scum, we CAN'T afford to make a mistake.

It's pretty clear zealos is mafia due to his...everything. Mattchew posted a great post on him and I have a post on him as well. Risk.nuke has been misrepresenting people all game and has yet to shown zealos posting "good useful things", diverting the lynch onto greymist. I'm ok with a lynch on either. gumshoe is probably the last mafia I think.

Yes, like I said, I don't know. I'm not experience enough to make good enough reads. I could write a massive paragraph of nothing, or try to see other people's thoughts and vote based off of that.
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April 02 2012 10:15 GMT
#1313
On April 02 2012 11:38 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2012 11:31 Zealos wrote:
Yes, like I said, I don't know. I'm not experience enough to make good enough reads. I could write a massive paragraph of nothing, or try to see other people's thoughts and vote based off of that.


It's fucking day 5, not day 1. That excuse no longer works. Whatever, no use arguing with mafia.

You have a really cute logic.
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April 02 2012 10:18 GMT
#1314
On April 02 2012 11:04 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 20:47 Zealos wrote:
Sorry, didn't get a chance to check over the thread before the lynch.

Won't get a chance to have a proper look over the thread till tonight, but I'll try to post something useful then.


Show nested quote +
On April 02 2012 03:12 Zealos wrote:
I hope I don't seem scummy saying this, but, I have no real idea's. So far my reads have been pretty bad, and I'm struggling to think of anything.

If anyone has idea's I'd be up for discussing ect.


nothing "useful" yet lol.

##vote risk.nuke

BTW, we're at LYLO. It's 5 v 3 right now. If WBG is voting with scum, we CAN'T afford to make a mistake.

It's pretty clear zealos is mafia due to his...everything. Mattchew posted a great post on him and I have a post on him as well. Risk.nuke has been misrepresenting people all game and has yet to shown zealos posting "good useful things", diverting the lynch onto greymist. I'm ok with a lynch on either. gumshoe is probably the last mafia I think.

Here's something useful:
It's pretty clear Chaoser is mafia due to his...everything. He once said something that I didnt like, and I heard someone else once said something about him too. I'm not gonna vote for him though, I've decided I'll vote for the first person to defend him.
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April 02 2012 10:20 GMT
#1315
In fact, Xata has to be mafia. Both the people pushing his lynch in the night were killed.
##vote Xatalos
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April 02 2012 21:58 GMT
#1316
Anyone?
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April 03 2012 12:05 GMT
#1321
I'm not siding with WBG, I'm siding with the 2 people who were killed last night after calling out Xata for being mafia.
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April 03 2012 18:17 GMT
#1325
I am voting Xata because I think he is mafia. I am not voting risk as he called me non-scum, when I am not scum. Glean from that what you will.
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April 03 2012 19:40 GMT
#1328
The irony is somewhat depressing :')
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April 04 2012 07:00 GMT
#1344
You guys are fucking idiots.
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April 04 2012 16:03 GMT
#1347
Lol, Kohbee still getting it wrong. It'll be funny when roles are revealed huh? I really hope you are scum, you make an embarrassing townie
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April 04 2012 16:07 GMT
#1348
Oh, and I don't need people to agree with me, we're pretty much lost, and if we haven't, I'm praying people are wise enough to finally kill Xata.
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Last Edited: 2012-04-05 07:43:25
April 05 2012 07:43 GMT
#1404
gg everyone :D
wp mafia
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April 05 2012 14:47 GMT
#1429
Looking back over the thread + Mafia thread, it was like a comedy of errors for town ahaha. Still, enjoyed the experience and will hopefully have a better idea next time
Cheers host.
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April 05 2012 20:16 GMT
#1442
On April 06 2012 03:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Zealos you blew your load early. If you could have waited one more day before using your power, you could have won it for town. Scum were still speculating the last blue could be a PGO at that point ^^

Wait, what? I thought I get to vote twice whenever?
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April 05 2012 21:16 GMT
#1445
Oh, I understand now VE. I guess I needed to be online nearer the time of the lynch to switch at the end too, as I still hoped people might see sense;D
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April 05 2012 21:17 GMT
#1446
My play went down a lot after the Risen thing, it was kinda disheartening for 2 reasons: My biggest lead all game turned out to be wrong and everyone seemed to suddenly jump on the idea of me being mafia due to the fact I was pushing the lynch on Risen so hard. Ah well :D
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April 05 2012 21:29 GMT
#1448
yeah, I should have just focused on convincing one person to switch from risk to xata and it would have been enough.
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