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Acrofales On March 21 2012 22:54 Acrofales wrote: Okay seriously WTF. I know I'm new to this game, but voting me for that reason alone makes no sense. In fact, it seems quite a scum move to cast suspicion on people right at the start of the game. Or am I going overboard and it's just a way of getting people to post at the start of the game? Either way, I'm watching you and risk.nuke. Voting off the bat seems fishy. This seems like a slight overeaction to what is essentially a nothing vote, plus making a theory which he then backs down from almost straight away: As for the rest, I've calmed down a bit, with later people talking about the random votes. It is my first game (ever) and I was hoping to live past the first day. People instavoting for me got me a bit upset. I am happy to unvote Matthew when a better candidate comes up, the ghost of High Heart is kinda cryptic when it comes to her prophecies It was more of a "if you vote for me, then I'll vote for you"-thing anyway. Seems very keen to try to suddenly make friends with everyone again eh? GreYMisT On March 22 2012 01:20 GreYMisT wrote: Guys I say we lynch Wherebugsgo, just to be certain. Sand/Syllo can you guys sign you posts? It makes it a lot easier for the rest of us to keep track of who thinks what. Xatalos, I'm interested on what you think about Wherebugsgo/littlefinger. How do you think we should go about interacting with him now that we know he is 3rd party? Also i would like to assure everyone that even though I am hosting Aperture Mafia, the science will not keep me from being active here. Seems too keen to play on the confusion around WBG. Lynching him even though it is explicitly stated that he is unlynchable? Explain to us why he is. One of these content-less scumesq posts imo. Lets hear some actual opinions on people? On the topic of Wherebugsgo, I'd love to completely ignore him if possible, though I doubt that will end up happening.... | ||
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I understand the need to question someone who is trying to lynch, but he was only asking for a post from Acro about his constant forwards and back with his opinions. If he wants to prove to be innocent (To the extent that is possible at this point in the game) then he should tell us what he makes of the game thusfar. | ||
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On March 22 2012 03:48 GreYMisT wrote: Has ON even posted? It appears not, though a lot of people have posted very little. I'm still as happy as earlier to say we should lynch a lurker if there is not enough reason to lynch a specific person, which I would say there is not, although I still would say Acro is a little suspicious, but I can't tell if he's scum or just new, or both. | ||
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Lets try to get him talking | ||
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On March 22 2012 05:32 MrZentor wrote: Hello people of Mafia! It is I, MrZentor! Anyways, I thought this started a day after it did, so I am a little late to the party. Let me tell everybody my opinion, so you can get a good read on me! First we have Acrofales overreacting to a vote that didn't have a basis. He then votes for Mattchew. Lyter defends Acrofales. Then Mattchew, bad spelling in hand, attacks Lyter for defending Acrofales I really don't like that Mattchew attacks Lyter for defending Acrofales, who I think at this point is innocent. It also seems silly that Mattchew is 100% positive that Acrofales is innocent over one nooby overreaction. If you look at Mattchew's filter, you will see he only said something slightly helpful when he was asked to; everything else is just him attacking other people without any real reason. For now, I think he is most likely to be scum. I have nothing against pushing the point, as we are yet to see a real responce for Acrofales, who I would personally like to see make a stance and give his opinion on the current ongoings. Although I do agree the way in which he "pushed his point" was pretty brash, it doesn't scream mafia to me atm. | ||
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On March 22 2012 18:01 Acrofales wrote: Lurkers Yes, you: Nicolas, Layabout, Zealos, Sinensis, Evantrees, Lyter and Risen. Why should we not lynch you, you're clearly not contributing anything. I've been asleep/Working for a few hours, was fairly active before. Give me 10 mins to read over the newest developments. | ||
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Acro: Why have you still not given some definitive thoughts? I asked a couple of pages ago and there is still nothing, are you just avoiding the question? The only people you say should be lynched atm are Lurkers, of which I am one, even though I have been fairly active. You made a point against gumshoe but haven't really elaborated or spoken of it since. I want to see you actually follow through on what you are saying. Gumshoe Alot of your posts seem completly substanceless, and make you look active, without making any strong stances. Such as Also do we want to elect a mayor? Also can we keep the Hodor's to a minimum? When he finally begins to make a case against Acro, we get this very odd quote Acrofales seeing as your lynch is getting to be pretty likely maybe you should role claim? Is this noob or scum? Not easy to tell, but some of your other posts make it seem closer to the latter. So overall, so far, my Lynch list would be: 1. Acro 2. Gumshoe | ||
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The reason on the sudden flip about Grey was me being overeager to have an opinion, and not consider the fact it may well be a joke. As for the copy of opinions already voiced, for me personally, if I agree with someone, I would rather elaborate on what they have said, rather than I simpler QFT or such. Though I'm not sure where I defended gumshoe? | ||
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On March 23 2012 02:36 DoYouHas wrote: My vote is doing nothing where it is so I am going to sheep Samuel on Oberyn until I read a more convincing case or I write one myself. ##Unvote: Acrofales ##Vote: Oberyn I'm gonna do the same to put the pressure on. ##Unvote ##Vote: Oberyn | ||
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But yeah, I kinda agree. | ||
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I am in this game playing with the assumption that people believe that I am town. I'm not going to waste time to debate over this, as I'd rather spend my time on the thread trying to find real scum, and get them. If I'm not allowed to agree with people over who looks scummy, then you may as well not bother reading my posts as I am not afraid to agree with people when they make good points. @Acro Matthew is... Weird. He makes some perfectly valid points, but also seems to make some rather moot ones. Although looking at the filter, he makes a LOT of accusations, without having all that much reason. For instance oh so your his scum teammate? explain to me why you are not scum. you have 90 minutes then MrZentor, bad reading comprehension in hand, makes a terrible post with his lead point of his slippery slope theory being untrue because Mattchew (who is awesome, sexy and lover of all townies) never even voted for Acrofales! i say we lynch acrofales and everyone that has defended him I would be all about a Xatalos lynching today. He posts reek of "I want to look like the rest of you" We should lynch Oberyn He seems to constantly switch targets, and it seems like he wants to stir up confusion. Although he almost seems too obvious in the way he does it, which could just be bad town. Summary: I would certainly say suspicious, but not 100% mafia yet, but should no better targets appear, would be a reasonable day 1 lynch. | ||
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And I personally don't consider a few medium posts rather than one huge one spam. | ||
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IMO: One of them is mafia, one town, I doubt they are on the same side. | ||
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I'm calling him as Mafia My biggest reasons for this is that he consistently switches topics to talk about wbg, even though it is widely agreed that we should just be ignoring him: + Show Spoiler + On March 25 2012 10:08 Risen wrote: Also, wbg isn't going to leave his vote on me all day. Don't sheeple onto it if you're town, feel free to do so if you're mafia. When I flip as an eventuality of being lynched or shot at night everything I'm saying will be confirmed and hopefully town still has enough remaining to win. If you lynch acro tonight there will be 3 mafia left. If you lynch me tonight it will be 12 town to 4 mafia, going through a night with 2 kills will make it 10 town to 4 mafia, you'll lynch acro and make it 10 town to 3 mafia. Not a bad situation for town. This seems like it's a really tough game for mafia to win. Maybe b/c of wbg powers/trolling shenans it's more balanced than I can see. I've been thinking. WBG wants a close endgame. He told us greymist was mafia, but we lynched a townie anyways. He's now pushing hard on me. He knows I'm town, so his motives to me are suspect (obviously). It comes back to the 10-3 town to mafia at the start of night 3 should I be lynched as he wants, which is pretty on track for a WBG victory assuming it drops to 8-3 following night 3. The only tough part about this is that when it turns out wbg is lying about me, what do we do about his claim that Greymist is mafia. I almost investigated him instead of acro, but figured an acro lynch would be more beneficial as a lot of people already think Greymist is mafia. He just seems to post a lot of filler, without really addressing the arguments against him. Though I do agree, should he flip detective it's safe to say that Acro isn't in a great spot. Also this: Mods when I reach majority can we prematurely end the day? Will speed this game up. is just utter garbage. | ||
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On March 25 2012 13:46 Risen wrote: Because when I flip detective you'll know I've checked him. Just saw this, confirms scum imo. I remember reading in the guide that no good detective would ever roleclaim, and I am willing to follow that logic through. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + 3.) Don't claim. Never, ever, ever claim Cop unless it's LYLO or shit has really hit the fan. This used to be one of the easiest ways to catch Scum because competent cops would never claim. Even if you are about to be lynched DO NOT CLAIM. The best way to avoid being lynched is to talk your way out of it. If you claim, the town believes you, and you live guess what? It's WIFOM time. The town will start talking about all kinds of useless shit like whether or not the Mafia will kill you and what Medics need to do but...guess what? The Mafia has a role blocker. You've screwed yourself out of a Night, someone, and hopefully not the Medic will die and now the next Day the WIFOM circle starts again. Don't claim even at the point of death. If you die you hopefully breadcrumbed your investigations anyway. Though it is for cop, it presumably works the same way for Alignment Detective. | ||
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It also seems odd that you just defend him for claiming cop without questioning the fact that he may lie in this game about "Lies and deception"? | ||
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1. Risen is standard Mafia 2. Risen is standard townie, trying to get out of a lynch (obviously very unlikely) | ||
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On March 26 2012 04:22 Mattchew wrote: can someone tell me why we would want to take a risk of lynching the guy who claims dt first? for the most part it sounds like people are saying something along the lines of "i wouldn't do that as DT" or "he must be an idiot to do that as DT" or "This way of playing DT doesn't help town" 2 of these say nothing about alignment. playing stupid or different from how you would play it dont mean scum. and there are a ton of examples of townies playing in a not pro-town manner. If we flip acro first and he flips scum or miller, we save the life of a townie and save a lynch. if we flip acro first and he flips town, we get to see what happens to risen at night, and then lynch him. if we flip risen first and he flips scum, we don't learn anything about acro BUT HURRAY WE LYNCH SCUM if we flip risen first and hes town DT, we waste a lynch on a confirmable townie, and acro gets lynched the next day I feel it is a lot safer to lynch acro first What if acro is the real DT and he is playing it well by not claiming? | ||
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On March 26 2012 05:56 Risen wrote: + Show Spoiler + On March 26 2012 05:46 Zealos wrote: I don't understand why you keep using the DT argument as your defense when there is literally no way for anyone to verify that, so it is a null point. So far, you have seemed more scum that acro, hence my vote for you. I'm just confused, I didn't think my play wasn't pro-town since my claims were so easy to check. We lynch acro and you get guaranteed scum on day 3. That isn't bad, is it? In a game with only 4 scum dropping them to 3 by the end of day 3 is decent positioning imo, and tbh I really am having a hard time understanding why people are voting for the guy who openly claimed and told everyone what his check was instead of the guy who hasn't claimed anything. In a normal game without the third party threatening to shoot me I wouldn't have panicked. It's my fault we're in the position we are in, and I acknowledge that. Because day 2 claims don't verify town whatsoever. And lynching you now and then acro tomorrow if you flip DT means we still get the mafia hit. Also, if acro is mafia, then the whole of the mafia team now know you are DT, so you are pretty dead anyways. | ||
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On March 26 2012 05:38 Risen wrote: You should stop posting. When I flip town DT you're going to be in some hot water if you're a townie... And what is this garbage? It's just total filler. Even if you do roll DT, my reasoning is still completely sound. Either you're a shit DT, or a reasonable Mafia, which is what I am hedging my bets on. | ||
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[QUOTE]On March 24 2012 07:21 Acrofales wrote: [QUOTE]On March 24 2012 07:15 GreYMisT wrote: [QUOTE]On March 24 2012 07:10 Acrofales wrote: I'm almost positive Acro is scum, and Mattchew needs to be checked tonight. VOTE ACROFALES[/QUOTE] Oh, and here's a gem, if you were DT and were sure about Acro being scum, why didn't you check Mattchew? | ||
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On March 24 2012 07:25 Risen wrote: I'm almost positive Acro is scum, and Mattchew needs to be checked tonight. VOTE ACROFALES On March 23 2012 23:08 Risen wrote: Unfortunately it does not, we don't know his sanity. If someone were to check you tonight and confirm then maybe it would. There we go, so why no Mattchew check? | ||
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On March 26 2012 06:39 wherebugsgo wrote: Sounds more like, "before I had the foresight to plan a DT claim I tried directing DTs into Mattchew and now I'm grasping at straws trying to make the statement make sense in retrospect" Exactly my argument. | ||
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On March 26 2012 21:50 Mattchew wrote: wut? It's pretty simple. If you are sure someone is mafia, then checking them isn't useful. | ||
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On March 27 2012 02:23 Mattchew wrote: I'll put it this way. I am sure that Xatalos is scum, and if I was a DT I would check him to confirm. Nothing is 100% in this game and there is never too much information. Confirming your beliefs is the most important thing you can do Risen could be DT and acro could have checked out as scum? Then by definition you can't be sure. As for acro, if the only argument for him being mafia is Risen being DT then I have no reason to think he's mafia unless Risen flips DT tonight. | ||
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On March 24 2012 07:25 Risen wrote: I'm almost positive Acro is scum, and Mattchew needs to be checked tonight. VOTE ACROFALES On March 23 2012 23:08 Risen wrote: Unfortunately it does not, we don't know his sanity. If someone were to check you tonight and confirm then maybe it would. Why on earth if he said this, and he was DT, didn't he check Mattchew last night? It makes no sense whatsoever, instead he claims he checked Acro, and backed up his argument by saying he thought a rolechecker should check Mattchew (derp) On March 26 2012 07:32 chaoser wrote: Not to mention even if there was a rolechecker it is a flawed argument, as summed up here by chaoser: This isn't a good excuse even IF rolechecker WAS a role. Why would you take a risk and depend on someone else to do your job? Why not do it yourself? That doesn't even make any sense. That's like saying, I want to check this guy, but oh well, I won't. I'll check this other guy that I already am sure is mafia and hope that 1) someone else checks the guy I want to know about and 2) they then out themselves somehow to give us that information. WTF? ##vote: risen Most of this argument is explained in easy to understand terms by WBG: On March 26 2012 06:39 wherebugsgo wrote: herp derp I wanted a rolechecker to check Mattchew herp derp without even checking that there was a rolechecker herp derp my logic makes sense no matter what you say herp derp despite the fact that you just showed it's complete shit herp derp herp Sounds more like, "before I had the foresight to plan a DT claim I tried directing DTs into Mattchew and now I'm grasping at straws trying to make the statement make sense in retrospect" On top of which, he completely avoids answering my direct question: On March 26 2012 06:12 Zealos wrote: Even if you flipped DT, there is no reason that puts me into a scum position. You are just using threats as an attempt to stop me from pressing my case. Give us a good reason to believe you're DT, before I roleclaim as Godfather and claim you're one of my mafia buddies, as your reasoning is that roleclaims are always truthful. Not to mention calling me and others scum with very very little to no evidence to back up his claims: On March 26 2012 05:29 Risen wrote: EBWOP: And he solidifies his "really dumb townie" position well here (If I didn't make it clear in my previous post I think he's scum, I think Mattchew is scum, and I think Greymist is scum). He'll OMGUS me once I'm lynched and be in the clear. He deserves looking into tonight, imo. The only argument he's made against anyone is the whole "I'm DT, lynch Acro" Doesn't this smack you as mindbogglingly stupid? Risen is the lynch we should make today, with absolutely no exceptions, he is super scummy. | ||
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On March 27 2012 03:26 Mattchew wrote: Once again, if you are DT and you think someone is scum you check them. You always confirm them. He could have checked me the next night. -You're argument "He did the wrong thing" The rolechecker thing is the only thing I don't understand. The desperation of explaining himself is a little scummy. Also, for giggles This all reads "I'm mad." It all it reads is "I'm mad" then you clearly need to read better. What reasoning do we have to believe he is DT? | ||
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Mattchew is the 2nd mafia, and my lynch choice for tomorrow. He very rarely makes useful posts, and right from the start has posted a ton of spam and filler. Examples: On March 22 2012 00:25 Mattchew wrote: lolololololol im going to assume this is sandroba? oh so your his scum teammate? explain to me why you are not scum. you have 90 minutes where you at homeslice and why should i think you are not scum wut? OMG 5 WHOLE POSTS ABOUT HIM 3 OF WHICH ARE NOT EVEN SERIOUS? NO WAYYYYY wbg you know better than that, I thought you wanted to help town i said it here too herpderp speaking in absolutes is not scum slipping herpderp my first game ever where I was scared to post. (Apparently not)me and SLG <3 vague posts. (Irony)btw defense is completely overrated. I do it cause i have too much fucking time to hawk the thread I'm down with ignoring risen wbg acro And mr zentos completely Welcome to TL Mafia. wut? you have to be joking When was the last time he made a decent case against anyone? He appears to stir up controversy and limit discussion wherever he goes. He's also one of the only people really defending Risen, so there could be a possible link there. However, this will be much more apparent should Risen flip mafia tonight (Assuming lynch) | ||
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Just interested to see what a fresh person thinks of current ongoings. | ||
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Well, I guess we've gotta be very suspicious of Acro at this point. @Mattchew Considering the town's activeness, it's better you post it sooner rather than later. Posting reads right before deadline means some people won't see it on time + Limits discussion. | ||
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On March 27 2012 18:40 risk.nuke wrote: We don't need a case, we got a redcheck. Acro. Sit down shut up. Mods can we have a 24 hour day today if town agrees on it? There won't be or well you don't know with the ratio of morons in this city but there shouldn't be much confusion about who we're lynching. This is never good for town, even if we know who we are lynching, we should still make progress towards the next days lynch ect. | ||
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On March 28 2012 01:59 Mattchew wrote: Missed this piece of shit post. i am posting it before a night deadline... giving people 48 hours to read and discuss. Calling it a shit post is just another poor attempt of yours to cause problems within the town? But fair enough, I thought you meant right before the post deadline :3 | ||
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I have suspicions toward you, though I am more inclined to say you're just an annoying townie. I'll post a better answer to that question when the day starts, I wanna have a good read over the thread/filters to decide. | ||
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2nd - Not 100% sure, but best lynch for tomorrow. I however, am waiting with baited breath for Mattchew's current reads, because I feel that he is contributing little to nothing so far. | ||
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On March 28 2012 06:32 Mattchew wrote: My Scum (aka to-lynch) List = Acrofales, Zealos, Xatalos, Lyter, Evantrees But Mattchew, there are 5 names and only 4 scum. WTF? I believe if we lynch this list we get the scum team. Acrofales has a red-check on him from a confirmed DT, he needs to be lynched tomorrow no matter what. Thats all, end of story. Zealos This is my strongest scum read. First we have his contradictions with how to interact with WBG. He seems to be selectively deaf to WBG using him only to his personal benefit as seen here. + Show Spoiler + On March 22 2012 03:29 Zealos wrote: On the topic of Wherebugsgo, I'd love to completely ignore him if possible, though I doubt that will end up happening.... On March 22 2012 03:57 Zealos wrote: I think our best bet in regard to WBG is to completely ignore his posts, unless he gives us damn good reason not to. On March 25 2012 23:36 Zealos wrote: Risen seems to be the hot topic, so I'll start with him I'm calling him as Mafia My biggest reasons for this is that he consistently switches topics to talk about wbg, even though it is widely agreed that we should just be ignoring him On March 27 2012 03:04 Zealos wrote: Most of this argument is explained in easy to understand terms by WBG: Then we have Zealos arguing in absolutes about Risen flipping scum. This feels like him trying to blend in with the majority opinion. Also, if Risen wasn't lynched its a backhanded way of saving Acro from lynch by discrediting Risen's DT claim. + Show Spoiler + On March 26 2012 05:21 Zealos wrote: Risen first, when he inevitably flips vanilla scum we can move on. On March 27 2012 02:35 Zealos wrote: My argument against risen is not that he isn't playing well, but that he is lying. Lying is either mafia, or a town that is detrimental to the town atmosphere. Either way - Lynch. He also constantly flirts with the topic of getting me lynched but never actually pushes it. He is waiting for it to actually gain momentum before he pushes it.He also constantly flirts with the topic of getting me lynched but never actually pushes it. He is waiting for it to actually gain momentum before he pushes it. + Show Spoiler + On March 23 2012 04:43 Zealos wrote: @Acro Matthew is... Weird. He makes some perfectly valid points, but also seems to make some rather moot ones. Although looking at the filter, he makes a LOT of accusations, without having all that much reason. For instance He seems to constantly switch targets, and it seems like he wants to stir up confusion. Although he almost seems too obvious in the way he does it, which could just be bad town. Summary: I would certainly say suspicious, but not 100% mafia yet, but should no better targets appear, would be a reasonable day 1 lynch. On March 23 2012 04:44 Zealos wrote: Not to mention him being incredibly anti Acrofales. He never votes me and his vote ends up as THE ONLY VOTE on Oberyn? On March 27 2012 04:03 Zealos wrote: Ok, I was going to wait until tomorrow, however, his most recent post just tipped me over the edge. Mattchew is the 2nd mafia, and my lynch choice for tomorrow. He very rarely makes useful posts, and right from the start has posted a ton of spam and filler. Examples: + Show Spoiler + On March 22 2012 00:25 Mattchew wrote: lolololololol im going to assume this is sandroba? oh so your his scum teammate? explain to me why you are not scum. you have 90 minutes where you at homeslice and why should i think you are not scum wut? OMG 5 WHOLE POSTS ABOUT HIM 3 OF WHICH ARE NOT EVEN SERIOUS? NO WAYYYYY wbg you know better than that, I thought you wanted to help town i said it here too herpderp speaking in absolutes is not scum slipping herpderp my first game ever where I was scared to post. (Apparently not)me and SLG <3 vague posts. (Irony)btw defense is completely overrated. I do it cause i have too much fucking time to hawk the thread I'm down with ignoring risen wbg acro And mr zentos completely Welcome to TL Mafia. wut? you have to be joking When was the last time he made a decent case against anyone? He appears to stir up controversy and limit discussion wherever he goes. He's also one of the only people really defending Risen, so there could be a possible link there. However, this will be much more apparent should Risen flip mafia tonight (Assuming lynch) Case against Mattchew. Cool. Terrible case with a ton of quotes taken out of context. Vaguely calling them all spam and having no content. Oh and I defended the town DT, this should of ended his “case” and “pressure" right there but then we have… On March 27 2012 20:56 Zealos wrote: Mattchew, can you make a good case instead of posting annoying 1 liners designed to stir up controversy, or should I just vote for you now? Fine, you don’t like my posting style... lynch me… But after reading how obvious it is to lynch acro, Zealos has a brand new (wishy-washy) trying to blend in point of view. On March 28 2012 01:11 Zealos wrote: I'm split between Acro and Matt for lynching tomorrow, but at the moment Risen flipping DT is just too great an evidence to ignore, so I'll be voting Acro for now. Well no shit. But since you can’t edit the fact you had to see the majority of town think this first screams of scummy agenda trying to get a mislynch on me. On March 28 2012 02:35 Zealos wrote: But a disrupted town atmosphere aids mafia, not town. I have suspicions toward you, though I am more inclined to say you're just an annoying townie. I'll post a better answer to that question when the day starts, I wanna have a good read over the thread/filters to decide. Wait…. HOLD THE FUCKING PHONE… I am NOW just an annoying TOWNIE??????? WHAT THE FUCK… There isn’t even close to a reason for this, just straight up change of opinion. (wish wash wish wash wish wash) On March 28 2012 02:37 Zealos wrote: I would also say that I'm not 100% sure acro is scum, though he is by far the best lynch for tomorrow. Oh man lets cover all the bases and not take a lick of responsibility for anything! I quoted this in there but i would love to point out this scum-slip. He somehow knows he will be alive after the night post Furthermore he tries to do the trendy townie thing of pressuring people by way of vote. Man does he really get swayed quickly + Show Spoiler + On March 22 2012 04:12 Zealos wrote: #Original Name Lets try to get him talking On March 23 2012 04:58 Zealos wrote: Well, my vote was to provoke a post like that, which is good enough for me. ##unvote 1 post, that wasn't even very good. That's it. This screams of nervous scum This case is farrrrrrr from hinging on Acro flipping scum, but if he were to, tell me these posts don't scream of an attempt to coach a teammate while "pressuring" him + Show Spoiler + On March 22 2012 22:17 Zealos wrote: My thoughts: Acro: Why have you still not given some definitive thoughts? I asked a couple of pages ago and there is still nothing, are you just avoiding the question? The only people you say should be lynched atm are Lurkers, of which I am one, even though I have been fairly active. You made a point against gumshoe but haven't really elaborated or spoken of it since. I want to see you actually follow through on what you are saying. So overall, so far, my Lynch list would be: 1. Acro In response to Acro posting a case (on me) On March 22 2012 23:46 Zealos wrote: I think it is good that you have made an argument against someone using substance, however, it is somewhat less poignient given the substance of his latest post. However, you have constructed a more useful post and formed an opinion, so although I am still a little susipcious, as you basically back down from your own argument, I will change my vote for the time being. Finally we have these 2 quotes which are just so bad they actually look like scum agenda. + Show Spoiler + On March 27 2012 01:31 Zealos wrote: It's pretty simple. If you are sure someone is mafia, then checking them isn't useful. On March 27 2012 05:19 Zealos wrote: Perfect, new person, fresh perspective. Top 3 lynch tagets Jitsu? I AM SCARED OF THE NEW GUY TELL ME WHAT YOU KNOW! Xatalos I have been calling him scum and asking for opinions on him all game. Ald also did a pretty nice post on him *click me*My First case *click me*Ald on Xat I'll try to not be redundant. + Show Spoiler + On March 27 2012 21:36 Xatalos wrote: Could you make an actual case against me instead of throwing a one liner at me every time I say something? The way I see it, you just panicked after I made my initial lynch vote for you and started throwing baseless one liners at me to somehow make yourself look "less suspicious" by making me look "more suspicious". All this seems like a scared counter-pressure to shift the attention away from yourself. Frankly, I can't think of a reason why a townie would be tunneling so hard on me after I merely made an analytic decision to vote for you (although I switched to gumshoe after I saw his newer posts). The only conclusion I can think of is that you are a Mafia player trying to get me lynched (not very skillfully, I might add), only because I suspected you. I see you made some sort of a "case" against me right after I voted for you, which revolved around me being a bit unsure on who to lynch. This is my first game game of Mafia (in a forum), so of course I wouldn't be 100% confident and decisive in my first posts, but I've been trying to improve and I think I'm a lot more confident in my skills now (there aren't many veterans here either, so it's not really necessary to trust other people's opinions...). And what of it if I use smilies every now and then? Please, make a good case against me or stop that useless spam! Funny because Xatalos has yet to make a case on anyone. He took the retarded WBG "lynch Risen" logic of "He is playing too bad to be scum" and translated that into 2 lengthy contentless posts and threw in some thread observations (no real opinions on anything just recaps) + Show Spoiler + On March 27 2012 23:00 Xatalos wrote: I'm not saying you are a blue, I'm saying I'm 50/50 on whether you are a Mafia pretending to be a blue or an actual blue. There's no way you're a green townie, with your breadcrumbing pointing at a specific role. I don't personally think you're the best lynch target either, but since most people seem focused on lynching you tomorrow, vigi shooting you would save day 3 from being wasted on your lynch (no matter if you're Mafia or town). (I have to say though, if Risen hadn't flipped DT, you would seem like the more convincing blue so far. But if day 3 is going to be wasted on your lynch anyway, there's not much point to leave you alive for tomorrow...). He is wishy washy while coming to obscure conclusions. Even I will entertain the thought that Acro is vanilla town but Xatalos seems convinced he's a blue? This is bizarre and looks like he has been hunting for blues breadcrumbs all game. (Townies should only care about who is town and who is scum, not who has a role.) Also, if you take the time to read through his filter you can see he is still blaming things on this being his first game. This smells of scum trying to compensate for slipping up by saying "oh I didn't know any better". Alas I have ran out of time (6:00PM EST Class) Lyter and evantrees are lurking and scummy. HA! What an awful case on me. The idea of me coaching Acro as a scum teammate has gotta be some of the biggest crap I've ever read. Why would I post it in the main thread instaed of just putting it in the mafia thread? Also, me asking jitsu about his lynch targets scummy? If you follow that logic, that is pretty much all you've done ALL GAME so you've gotta be scum on your own logic? And lets say I was scum, and knew that Risen wasn't mafia then why would I be the one posting the hardest case agaisnt him even though he was almost certainly gonna get lynched anyway? Now I'm done defending myself agaisnt your cesspool of a case, I'll go back to looking for scum | ||
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Though after reading over Grey's filter it does seem "Convineint" that whenever the town gets a false lead such as risen, he becomes quiet and leaves us to lynch him, no words for or agaisnt. | ||
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Yes, but without much reasoning, and you seemed to be pretty happy just to blend in. | ||
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On March 30 2012 03:43 Mattchew wrote: So he has been "active, contributing and created a pro-town atmosphere." 2 of these have literally 0 to do with alignment. And his dumbass argument with me about Risen was actually disruptive as fuck to the thread during that day. "If you guys start to vote risk.nuke i will too because he's town and I like lynching townies" - this paraphrased Wish-wash no firm stance meh idk. I haven't seen a decent case against greymist and it looks like risk.nuke's relentless pushing (without much content) is snowballing up. barring unforeseen circumstances I cannot see this being a good decision. I know this might be shocking, and really hard for you to understand, but when 2 people disagree and argue, it's both people arguing. If you don't like me disagreeing with you then disagree, but don't try to make a vote out of it. | ||
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I'm also going to stop responding to you Mattchew (Which I should have done ages ago) Because it is just a back and forth getting no where and tunneling the discussion. I want to hear from Xata and Grey. Thoughts on people's suspicions? | ||
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Also, having a go at someone for giving you the benefit of the doubt? You seem awfully keen to stir up whatever trouble you can. I'll be voting Grey today, and Kohbee tomorrow. I'm off for a bit now, later. | ||
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Oh, and lying about what you posted earlier in a page in a thread is pretty stupid: Your lynch system is awfully scummy in my opinion. It looks like you are trying to blend in with opinions but don't want to take a firm stance anywhere but Greymist. -- The sort of soft defence that suits mafia trying to defend one another while not being too conspicuous.Then I completely agree with GreYMisT. You have had next to no solid opinions and seem to want to ride the coattails of others while only fighting over opinions that you knew others agreed with you on. I think you are scum. I will be voting for you. | ||
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Please, instead of just throwing quotes out here there and everywhere, can you make a case that means something, because at the moment, you are useless to the town even if I was mafia. | ||
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God, this game is like, designed for trolls that go round making rubbish arguments over the internet :X Oh well, what can you do, hopefully other people in the game see sense, and if not, you and Kohbee both look super suspicious when I get lynched. | ||
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As for the case against Xata, I have to agree with what you've said, he's clearly quite a waffler, but I want to see him respond to it before taking a firm stance (Does this make me mafia too? ) | ||
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Won't get a chance to have a proper look over the thread till tonight, but I'll try to post something useful then. | ||
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On April 02 2012 11:04 chaoser wrote: nothing "useful" yet lol. ##vote risk.nuke BTW, we're at LYLO. It's 5 v 3 right now. If WBG is voting with scum, we CAN'T afford to make a mistake. It's pretty clear zealos is mafia due to his...everything. Mattchew posted a great post on him and I have a post on him as well. Risk.nuke has been misrepresenting people all game and has yet to shown zealos posting "good useful things", diverting the lynch onto greymist. I'm ok with a lynch on either. gumshoe is probably the last mafia I think. Yes, like I said, I don't know. I'm not experience enough to make good enough reads. I could write a massive paragraph of nothing, or try to see other people's thoughts and vote based off of that. | ||
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On April 02 2012 11:38 chaoser wrote: It's fucking day 5, not day 1. That excuse no longer works. Whatever, no use arguing with mafia. You have a really cute logic. | ||
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On April 02 2012 11:04 chaoser wrote: nothing "useful" yet lol. ##vote risk.nuke BTW, we're at LYLO. It's 5 v 3 right now. If WBG is voting with scum, we CAN'T afford to make a mistake. It's pretty clear zealos is mafia due to his...everything. Mattchew posted a great post on him and I have a post on him as well. Risk.nuke has been misrepresenting people all game and has yet to shown zealos posting "good useful things", diverting the lynch onto greymist. I'm ok with a lynch on either. gumshoe is probably the last mafia I think. Here's something useful: It's pretty clear Chaoser is mafia due to his...everything. He once said something that I didnt like, and I heard someone else once said something about him too. I'm not gonna vote for him though, I've decided I'll vote for the first person to defend him. | ||
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On April 06 2012 03:54 VisceraEyes wrote: Zealos you blew your load early. If you could have waited one more day before using your power, you could have won it for town. Scum were still speculating the last blue could be a PGO at that point ^^ Wait, what? I thought I get to vote twice whenever? | ||
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