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On March 22 2012 11:29 OriginalName wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 09:35 SamuelLJackson wrote:
HEY! arcosomething and gumshoes are likely town you morons. Oberyn however is scum with his 4 random quotes and a very bland and carefully constructed post. syllo believe mattchew is likely town aswell, I can't understand his reasons, but he is probably right.
Let's kill Oberyn gogogo. Arco prob town but why do you think gumshoes is, in all honesty im still 50/50 on him. Oberyn needs some more before i make a call too.
Gumshoe makes 3 retarded posts in a row, all of which seem genuine and if he was scum I'm pretty sure someone would have filled him in/raged at him, because that ought to rise suspicion from the jubjubs that think not having a clue=scum. Him and acro are the easy day 1 lynch bait that scum love to cast suspicion on.
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On March 22 2012 12:05 SamuelLJackson wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 11:29 OriginalName wrote:On March 22 2012 09:35 SamuelLJackson wrote:
HEY! arcosomething and gumshoes are likely town you morons. Oberyn however is scum with his 4 random quotes and a very bland and carefully constructed post. syllo believe mattchew is likely town aswell, I can't understand his reasons, but he is probably right.
Let's kill Oberyn gogogo. Arco prob town but why do you think gumshoes is, in all honesty im still 50/50 on him. Oberyn needs some more before i make a call too. Gumshoe makes 3 retarded posts in a row, all of which seem genuine and if he was scum I'm pretty sure someone would have filled him in/raged at him, because that ought to rise suspicion from the jubjubs that think not having a clue=scum. Him and acro are the easy day 1 lynch bait that scum love to cast suspicion on.
This. So much this.
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so why don't we kill the obv scum doyouhas and greymist?
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I have returned, and just finished catching up. Have just a little bit to add.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 22 2012 01:57 Oberyn wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 01:35 SamuelLJackson wrote:On March 22 2012 01:20 GreYMisT wrote:
Guys I say we lynch Wherebugsgo, just to be certain.
Sand/Syllo can you guys sign you posts? It makes it a lot easier for the rest of us to keep track of who thinks what.
Xatalos, I'm interested on what you think about Wherebugsgo/littlefinger. How do you think we should go about interacting with him now that we know he is 3rd party?
Also i would like to assure everyone that even though I am hosting Aperture Mafia, the science will not keep me from being active here. What part of MODCONFIRMED UNLYNCHABLE/UNKILLABLE do you not understand? Next person that discusses wbg or engages in any useless conversation with him get's my vote. Consider it like he is not even playing in this game. /sandroba I definitely agree with this. We shouldn't allow players to pretend to contribute by speculating on a role that has little impact on the events of the first few days. If wherebugsgo wants to coordinate with town to somehow mutually achieve our goals, then that's fine, but otherwise it is best to ignore him. Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 01:50 gumshoe wrote:
moving on lets discuss policy(it'll only take a bit and we may as well get it over with early on) do we set a preliminary lynch deadline?(im leaning 8 hours in advance if we do) Do we policy lynch hardcore lurkers?(by hardcore I mean like 3 one liners a cycle, personally for this because lynching lurkers always helps clear the air a bit and they werent helping anyway so nothing really lost) are we going to elect a mayor?( I've never done this before so I dont know how that works) If you want to discuss policy, then why are you just giving a bunch of questions? You should share what your actual opinion is. A no-lynch should be out of the question as this person suggests: Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 23:39 Xatalos wrote:
Ah, damn it... No editing! However, I just thought that since you HAVE to vote every day, it might not be such a bad idea to throw random votes early. In my previous Mafia games it was common not to lynch anyone on the first day, and wait for clues on the second day. When people random lynched on the first day, it usually just meant an easier win for the Mafia. We don't accomplish anything and obtain no information if everyone gets a free pass on day one. Lurkers should be pressured to post, but the day one lynch shouldn't only be focused on people without posts since it is also tough to generate information. Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 23:06 Xatalos wrote:(At least we now get to see some interesting reactions, I hope! Acrofales had a quite interesting reaction, too, although it doesn't necessarily mean Mafia yet... Some people haven't said anything at all yet, and I can't wait to see what they say. At this rate there will be a huge amount of data to base lynch votes on  ) This is a sketchy post. What does "interesting" mean? Is it scummy? You should draw conclusions rather than tell us that you look forward to reading peoples posts.
Big Finger Of Suspicion at Oberyn for a long, meticulous, and especially uninsightful post (spoilered above). Didn't even fully read one of the things he's quoted as the questions he brings forward have already been answered. Other people have pointed suspicion toward him and no response yet.
Another 1 post wonder early on was nicolas. But he did bring forth the question of who all is a vet and who isn't, which I think is a good question. This is my second game of mafia personally. I went a little too hog wild in the first and got myself lynched relatively early.
On March 22 2012 01:34 gumshoe wrote:Alright just woke up, On the topic of random voting, I don't mind it so long as its a means to an end. It should generate discussion not baseless band wagons  Also on the issue of third party. Isn't little finger sort of irrelevant to town? I mean unless he's going to act like a total dick and try to get himself lynched he really shouldn't be a problem for us, its scum who have to worry about shooting him. Townies look for scum, scum look for third party, lets not do scum's job for them by finding the guy whose potentially the biggest threat to their operation. It's better if little finger stays hidden looks like a helpful blue and soaks up a hit. I'm not saying we shouldn't talk about him, I just don't want to give him away(which as far as we know makes no difference to him) until scum finds him on their own, because just by being there as he is he disrupts and confuses scum. For the record though I think he has to ensure that catelyn survives no matter what(or maybe sansa) and ned dies. Or maybe he just has to identify everyone. It'll be near impossible to confirm our theories until later when we've seen someone act peculiar(like a third party would) even then though like I said before it might still be a good idea to keep Baelish under wraps. Next up, Xatalos, why did you vote for me of all people? Is it because I'm a newer player eg an easy target to pressure/bandwagon?
gumshoe wastes a lot of thread space by not having the best reading comprehension. Earlier on he didn't even seem understand Peytr's role. It seems unusual to me that someone who has played a few games of mafia wouldn't even read the OP and the D1 post thoroughly. Perhaps an honest mistake that happened because of over posting, when he should have been reading instead.
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I would like to add that I am not trying to imply gumshoe is mafia. His posting without really knowing what he was talking about adds to his innocence for me. I just don't think mafia would post so frequently early on if they didn't even understand how the special role in the game functioned.
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wherebugsgo, I understand it may be tempting to troll the game because you know that you cannot be killed, but I ask that you limit the spam to make the game enjoyable for the rest of us. You don't have to destroy the thread to achieve your win condition.
On March 22 2012 09:35 SamuelLJackson wrote:
HEY! arcosomething and gumshoes are likely town you morons. Oberyn however is scum with his 4 random quotes and a very bland and carefully constructed post.
Let's kill Oberyn gogogo.
Carefully constructed? Since when is that only a mafia trait? Do you disagree with any of the points that I made? You certainly are in no position to call my posts bland based on your contributions.
On March 22 2012 02:41 gumshoe wrote:
Acrofales seeing as your lynch is getting to be pretty likely maybe you should role claim? It could help your case, also why did you vote for Mattchew in the first place?
As poor as this suggestion is, I feel that it is unlikely that a scum aligned gumshoe would have the confidence to actively push a scum agenda and publicly blue fish in the thread.
On March 22 2012 09:24 risk.nuke wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 09:20 risk.nuke wrote:
I want to kill greymist and gumshoe about equally much. just to clarify, my original vote for greymist was pressure and I want to lynch him now for other reasons.
I hardly see how you've managed to generate pressure on greymist with your vote. Do you intend to explain what these reasons are or is it a secret?
It's getting late here so I'll post my lynch preferences in the morning. Hopefully there will be more content to analyze by then because right now it seems like the vast majority of players have yet to post much.
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On March 22 2012 13:21 Oberyn wrote:wherebugsgo, I understand it may be tempting to troll the game because you know that you cannot be killed, but I ask that you limit the spam to make the game enjoyable for the rest of us. You don't have to destroy the thread to achieve your win condition. Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 09:35 SamuelLJackson wrote:
HEY! arcosomething and gumshoes are likely town you morons. Oberyn however is scum with his 4 random quotes and a very bland and carefully constructed post.
Let's kill Oberyn gogogo. Carefully constructed? Since when is that only a mafia trait? Do you disagree with any of the points that I made? You certainly are in no position to call my posts bland based on your contributions. Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 02:41 gumshoe wrote:
Acrofales seeing as your lynch is getting to be pretty likely maybe you should role claim? It could help your case, also why did you vote for Mattchew in the first place?
As poor as this suggestion is, I feel that it is unlikely that a scum aligned gumshoe would have the confidence to actively push a scum agenda and publicly blue fish in the thread. Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 09:24 risk.nuke wrote:On March 22 2012 09:20 risk.nuke wrote:
I want to kill greymist and gumshoe about equally much. just to clarify, my original vote for greymist was pressure and I want to lynch him now for other reasons. I hardly see how you've managed to generate pressure on greymist with your vote. Do you intend to explain what these reasons are or is it a secret? It's getting late here so I'll post my lynch preferences in the morning. Hopefully there will be more content to analyze by then because right now it seems like the vast majority of players have yet to post much.
you guys are gonna ignore me anyway, so why should I listen to you?
I'MA TROLL ALL I WANT LOLOLOLOL
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On March 22 2012 13:21 Oberyn wrote:wherebugsgo, I understand it may be tempting to troll the game because you know that you cannot be killed, but I ask that you limit the spam to make the game enjoyable for the rest of us. You don't have to destroy the thread to achieve your win condition. Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 09:35 SamuelLJackson wrote:
HEY! arcosomething and gumshoes are likely town you morons. Oberyn however is scum with his 4 random quotes and a very bland and carefully constructed post.
Let's kill Oberyn gogogo. Carefully constructed? Since when is that only a mafia trait? Do you disagree with any of the points that I made? You certainly are in no position to call my posts bland based on your contributions. Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 02:41 gumshoe wrote:
Acrofales seeing as your lynch is getting to be pretty likely maybe you should role claim? It could help your case, also why did you vote for Mattchew in the first place?
As poor as this suggestion is, I feel that it is unlikely that a scum aligned gumshoe would have the confidence to actively push a scum agenda and publicly blue fish in the thread. Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 09:24 risk.nuke wrote:On March 22 2012 09:20 risk.nuke wrote:
I want to kill greymist and gumshoe about equally much. just to clarify, my original vote for greymist was pressure and I want to lynch him now for other reasons. I hardly see how you've managed to generate pressure on greymist with your vote. Do you intend to explain what these reasons are or is it a secret? It's getting late here so I'll post my lynch preferences in the morning. Hopefully there will be more content to analyze by then because right now it seems like the vast majority of players have yet to post much.
You never made any points. Not with your first post and not with this post.
I feel that it is unlikely that a scum aligned gumshoe would have the confidence to actively push a scum agenda and publicly blue fish in the thread.
What does this even mean?
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Samuel I am really glad to see you going after Oberyn. He stuck out to me as well for his first post. However, I would appreciate it if you would explain more of your reasoning behind your reads. Your filter is rather short and sparse.
I agree with you that Acro is probably not a good lynch for today. However, I am getting frustrated with the too scummy to be scum defense of gumshoe. Mostly because this is the third game I have been in where it has come up regarding him. Perhaps this means I am biased and should do as Alderan says and give him time.
I'm off to bed. It would be really nice if substantial posts were made by risen and risk.nuke for me to look at when I wake up.
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What he said:
On March 22 2012 15:01 DoYouHas wrote:
Samuel I am really glad to see you going after Oberyn.
What he actually meant:
On March 22 2012 15:01 DoYouHas wrote:
Samuel I am really glad to see you going after Oberyn and not me.
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On March 22 2012 04:56 layabout wrote:
zealos do you intend to keep spamming up the thread?
Do you intend to keep not posting? Any thoughts on Oberyn yet?
Risen you've yet to express a single opinion that in any way relates to the game
Chaoser I don't like this point you brought up
gumshoe's response to Acro's situation was also weird and problematic. His first suggestion to Acro was to role claim. Now, had that been towards a more experienced player I would have less problems with but since it's to a newbie, there was a decently high chance acro might have actually claimed (as can be seen in the recent games where there have been day one role claims). Newbieness? The rest of his posts seem to suggest so but I will be keeping tabs on him as the game goes on.
Does the highlighted section in any way have relate to his alignment? Weird and problematic? This reads like something a person who has to force cases would say. Moreover, do you think it's more likely for new scum or new town to make such a ridiculous role claim inquiry? You've posted some content, but it's a bit light in terms of actual accusations; even when you assert mattchew is fake tunnelling, you don't vote for him nor do you call him scum. You say people should be aware of how much we are posting and that you will be "keeping tabs on" gumshoe.
Would you be up to lynching Oberyn today?
/syllogism
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Seems like a lot happened while I was sleeping
Nicolas hasn't responded to my vote, but maybe he's just busy with his life or something? Also, as someone said, voting without any evidence isn't really much of a pressure. Maybe I should drop my vote on him for now, although I don't like people just avoiding contact like this...
Although I'm a newbie, I'll try to give my opinion on the "main suspects" for being Mafia (I'm going to ignore WBG's accusations, since I don't know what info he has or even what his motives are):
1) Acrofales: The first person to act suspiciously, becoming very defensive and aggressive after some pressure. He hasn't been otherwise suspicious though, so maybe he was just surprised by the situation and overreacted (he isn't a veteran, after all...). I wouldn't say he is cleared by his more recent actions, but I wouldn't say he is the main suspect either.
2) gumshoe: Suggesting a role claim for Acrofales might have been a plot to abuse his newness and to make him reveal a possibly critical town role, but I'm not sure about that. He didn't understand Petyr's role either at first - perhaps he didn't quite know what he was doing in his first posts. If he was a veteran, he would be very suspicious, but since he's not, I'm not sold on lynching him yet.
3) Mattchew: He hasn't said anything truly suspicious, but he has been extremely aggressive towards Acrofales, and even accused people of being Mafia for merely considering the innocence of Acrofales... Same as with gumshoe, he might be merely playing in a confusing way (newbie/personality trait), but to me he seems slightly more suspicious than gumshoe.
As for Oberyn... I don't really think he's in the same league as these three. He has certainly been cautious, but not overly defensive. He hasn't contributed that much, but then again, neither have most of the players (yet). Why lynch him now, instead of one of these three?
I'm going to change my vote to Mattchew for now, but it's definitely not final. I'll wait for some sort of consensus to appear, since there's still a lot of time left.
##Unvote
##Vote Mattchew
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Sorry been busy, I will read the thread soon.
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You are going to wait for some sort of consensus to appear? How does that make sense? Overall that post is a bit wishy-washy and I'm not liking the fact you are focusing on, as you call them, "main suspects" as that suggests you are less interested in finding scum on your own and more interested in blending in. Although you are a newbie? Really?
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I'm awake. Reading the posts I missed and posting comments as I go.
risk.nuke
Please make your case against greymist, rather than just stating you have one.
oberyn
You have now made two posts with nothing useful in it. This last one starts with an OMGUS against SLJ, continues with a WIFOM about Gumshoe (who has not posted anything since sounding rather scummy. Fear when his plan backfired?) and ends with your only suggestion I agree with (as I said above). Why did you even bother posting this?
ON
You posted two very short posts, but why not post something more useful than a confirmation that I am town (I do appreciate your opinion). What do you think of Mattchew, Gumshoe or Oberyn?
Mattchew
I want to spend some more time chewing on this bone. Will post my thoughts later, for now you're still scum and your posts defending your meta have been lackluster and confusing.
Lurkers
Yes, you: Nicolas, Layabout, Zealos, Sinensis, Evantrees, Lyter and Risen. Why should we not lynch you, you're clearly not contributing anything.
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EBWOP: Nicolas has spoken, albeit meaningless procrastination talk. What is your opinion on.. well.. everything?
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Oh, my Gumshoe bit might be lost in the Oberyn part. If you're not scum, why have you not posted since your plan to have me roleclaim backfired in your face?
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On March 22 2012 17:48 SamuelLJackson wrote:
You are going to wait for some sort of consensus to appear? How does that make sense? Overall that post is a bit wishy-washy and I'm not liking the fact you are focusing on, as you call them, "main suspects" as that suggests you are less interested in finding scum on your own and more interested in blending in. Although you are a newbie? Really?
I didn't say that I would sit idle and stay with my vote on Mattchew With consensus I merely meant that before being too sure about the suspiciousness of anyone, I would wait for more analysis and reactions.
As for why I talked about those three now... So far I have focused on lurkers, but without any results. So I thought to give my opinion on the ones everyone has been talking about. However, I still think the lurkers would need more pressure on them. I just don't really know how to do it, since a single vote doesn't scare anyone, and they haven't given any reads either.
What would you suggest then? Opinions seem to be split: some want to focus on lurkers, some on the ones with possible Mafia reads.
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Finger of Suspicion at MrZentor.
One of the first things he said in his first post is this:
Let me tell everybody my opinion, so you can get a good read on me!
And something about it just doesn't sit well with me. It's as if he's defending himself before he's even said anything yet. He goes on to attack Acrofales who is nothing but pure lynch bait so far in my eyes.
In he second post he says this:
Gumshoe skips the day post, says we should talk about policy, doesn't discuss policy, asks some questions, and then accuses the person who is easiest to attack, Acrofales.
My guess as to why he skipped the day post is that he got a powerful role(blue or scum) and was excited to use it. He is either a lazy townsperson with a powerful role or scum. Overall, I think he seems a little less scummy than Mattchew.
I'll point out below, Gumshoe does in fact discuss policy. Oberyn, who I also still have a big Finger of Suspicion at went after gumshoe for the same baseless claim. MrZentor's theory about gumshoe getting a blue role and being "excited to use it" (wtf?) is stupid.
On March 22 2012 01:50 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 01:35 SamuelLJackson wrote:On March 22 2012 01:20 GreYMisT wrote:
Guys I say we lynch Wherebugsgo, just to be certain.
Sand/Syllo can you guys sign you posts? It makes it a lot easier for the rest of us to keep track of who thinks what.
Xatalos, I'm interested on what you think about Wherebugsgo/littlefinger. How do you think we should go about interacting with him now that we know he is 3rd party?
Also i would like to assure everyone that even though I am hosting Aperture Mafia, the science will not keep me from being active here. What part of MODCONFIRMED UNLYNCHABLE/UNKILLABLE do you not understand? Next person that discusses wbg or engages in any useless conversation with him get's my vote. Consider it like he is not even playing in this game. /sandroba Thank you Jackson ( : but keep in mind it is possible(though unlikely considering scums hate for flashy play early on) that Where is scum, we shouldnt just take his word for anything but I agree talking about Baelish is pointless and benefits scum the most. For now we can just ignore Where as if he was just a dumb poster. moving on lets discuss policy(it'll only take a bit and we may as well get it over with early on) do we set a preliminary lynch deadline? (im leaning 8 hours in advance if we do) Do we policy lynch hardcore lurkers?( by hardcore I mean like 3 one liners a cycle, personally for this because lynching lurkers always helps clear the air a bit and they werent helping anyway so nothing really lost) are we going to elect a mayor?( I've never done this before so I dont know how that works)
After that he gets into his pointless little tiff with Mattchew.
That makes him three for three going after the posters that were the most lynch-bait-y-est early on.
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Sinensis, what are you trying to achieve with this post? It seems to be all wrong. You should probably check your facts before waving your finger about. Your points about Oberyn make perfect sense, but your interpretation of MrZentor's first post is completely missing the point.
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