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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 22 2012 02:56 GMT
#801
I really wanted you guys to discuss without my influence, since I feel it's way more productive in terms of information. Also my throat hurts. I think probulous is being reasonable so far and I the thing about TIPD and jackal I did notice too. The only thing that bothers me is that this surge of scumhunting only came after being pressured into it and he normally is more proactive than this. Still I'm keeping my vote on sloosh due to lack of better options. I have no meta on most of these players and honestly it's very hard for me to find scum in this situation. Everyone should be trying to uncover stuff and pressuring players, if it comes from me I feel it's not as effective.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 22 2012 03:02 GMT
#802
No one's asking you to find the scum alone sandroba - I just wanted your opinions in the thread.

But I see what you're saying.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 22 2012 03:07 GMT
#803
The everyone there means people that aren't doing shit *looks at TIPD*.
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
March 22 2012 03:11 GMT
#804
Ok guys I have to go now. I'll jump back on in around 7hrs or so if someone wants to keep me company.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
March 22 2012 03:13 GMT
#805
On March 22 2012 11:26 johnnywup wrote:
I miss jcarl ):


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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 22 2012 03:13 GMT
#806
On March 22 2012 12:13 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 11:26 johnnywup wrote:
I miss jcarl ):


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if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
March 22 2012 03:22 GMT
#807

On March 22 2012 12:13 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 11:26 johnnywup wrote:
I miss jcarl ):


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I'm here in spirit...

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USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST


anyways...my list in order from scummiest to least scummy

slOosh
Probulous
TIPD

Nemesis
xsksc
Tobon
Snarfs
Dirkzor
VE
sandroba
me ofc


and I think slOosh is best bet for hitting scum in todays lynch.
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
March 22 2012 04:29 GMT
#808
Btw, why are shared accounts called hydras?
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
xsksc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1044 Posts
March 22 2012 04:35 GMT
#809
On March 22 2012 13:29 Nemesis wrote:
Btw, why are shared accounts called hydras?


I've always assumed it's because hydras are mythical creatures with more than one head, as it's 2 players putting their heads together. I could totally be wrong though.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 22 2012 04:55 GMT
#810
On March 22 2012 10:32 xsksc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 10:29 Snarfs wrote:
xsksc, I feel like you are taking quotes out of context which is not helping contribute to the argument.


I am? I thought he just argued that he had a town read on VE because he voted for Jackal, and that it didn't matter that VE had defended Jackal.

Now his arguement on TIPD being scum...totally contradicts that, do you not see?

Did Probulous clear this up for you, or do you still need me to explain it?
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-22 04:56:21
March 22 2012 04:56 GMT
#811
jcarlsoniv, town Mason has been modkilled.

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biatch I modkilled you!
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
March 22 2012 04:57 GMT
#812
On March 22 2012 13:56 wherebugsgo wrote:
jcarlsoniv, town Mason has been modkilled.

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biatch I modkilled you!

looooooooooooooool i love you WBG
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 22 2012 05:01 GMT
#813
On March 22 2012 13:56 wherebugsgo wrote:
jcarlsoniv, town Mason has been modkilled.

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biatch I modkilled you!


Does this mean we can't talk about jcarlson?

I forgot to ask sandroba about jcarlson's reads. :OOO
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
xsksc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1044 Posts
March 22 2012 05:11 GMT
#814
On March 22 2012 13:55 Snarfs wrote:

Did Probulous clear this up for you, or do you still need me to explain it?


I don't need you to explain anything. I'm quite capable of forming my own opinnions, thanks.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
March 22 2012 06:51 GMT
#815
On March 22 2012 06:56 Snarfs wrote:
@slOosh:

Can you point me to where your opinion changed on xsksc and what your reasoning is for no longer believing he is scum (or at least him not warranting your top 2 picks)?

Here is the post explaining my tendency to tunnel

On March 21 2012 00:02 slOosh wrote:
shift onto Snarfs / other stuff:
I realized that my focus on xsksc led me to miss a lot of stuff going on in the thread. Which is what I tend to do when I tunnel and as effort to improve myself as a player I stopped.
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 12:49 slOosh wrote:
EBWOP: scratch that I'm rereading the whole thread. Realized I missed much stuff due to my dialogue w/ xsksc.

Notice that this is the turning point in which I redirect my focus onto Snarfs / other stuff.

Couple that with Sandroba's town read

On March 20 2012 03:05 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 02:37 sandroba wrote:
I changed my mind about xsksc


Could you explain your read on xsksc?
I want to improve my scum-hunting skills and I feel like I could learn much from you.


Finally add a proper thorough rereading of thread -> noticing that I missed the post where VE addresses him, upon which I based my suspicions of a "pre-emptive" defense. I realized I was setting up a straw man and tearing that apart and of course he would get suspicious of me for doing something so stupid.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
March 22 2012 06:51 GMT
#816
On March 22 2012 07:53 Probulous wrote:
The only one who was really pushing [VE] was me. Sure sandroba was a little skeptical of you but you were in no danger of being lynched. The upside was minimal compared to losing a scum buddy.

Nemesis' filter would argue with that. Trying to claim town cred when Nemesis was doing just the same.

On March 22 2012 08:39 Probulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 08:29 Toad_in_Pink_Dress wrote:
On March 22 2012 08:25 johnnywup wrote:
On March 22 2012 08:19 Probulous wrote:
Does everyone else understand what VE is saying?

not really, this is way over my head right now @_@ i'll vote for whoever sand votes for, really..

also TIPD what the fuck have you done all game anyways? post randomly about who you think is scum and whos inno, and then vote occasionally?

Maybe i would answer if you were not such a cunt
+ Show Spoiler +
swearing is bad children, don't do it



Really?

Come on son there is no need for that. I agree with Johnny that you have been useless this game. Laya, I don't expect anything from Bluelightz but you are a decent scum-hunter. Shape up.

On March 22 2012 09:52 Probulous wrote:
After we lynch slOosh we lynch TIPD.


No posts in between. Just jumps from the first post to the second. The only new information from TIPD is
On March 22 2012 09:40 Toad_in_Pink_Dress wrote:
I'm dead in Aperture Mafia so I can put more time to this now.


He is willing to see TIPD shape up, sees the post where TIPD gives reason for inactivity/lurking and then decides that TIPD should be the next lynch. I think it is a distraction to get us away from talking about me and him as he does not like the direction it is heading - and it looks like he just went through his filter and made everything look bad.

I mean take this:
On March 22 2012 09:52 Probulous wrote:
Here we have a nice little attempt at outing the Cop (assuming we have one) (Klicky). Follow the cop only works if we have a medic, with two roleblocks claimed it is possible that instead of a medic we have a town roleblocker. Then comes a blatant bandwagon vote for slOosh (Klicky) and a useless put down of both VE and myself (Klicky).

So what, a blatant bandwagon on someone who you are sure is scum is a scum tell? Nuh-uh. Town don't think like that.
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
March 22 2012 07:50 GMT
#817
Oh my. Why did slOosh keep quite during the probulous interrogation and now when the focus is back on himself he starts posting more?

I'm also quite confused about where to vote. I think probulous is making sense in what he is saying. I see the difference between VE's town read on Jackal and TIPD's non-read on jackal. Its NOT the same as xsksc and VE is tryign to make it appear.

I still think at least 1 scum is on the "non jackal vote" list, but I'm more and more inclined to believed we had scum voting jackal. Be that TIPD or another I don't know. I just always second guess.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
March 22 2012 09:59 GMT
#818
On March 22 2012 15:51 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 07:53 Probulous wrote:
The only one who was really pushing [VE] was me. Sure sandroba was a little skeptical of you but you were in no danger of being lynched. The upside was minimal compared to losing a scum buddy.

Nemesis' filter would argue with that. Trying to claim town cred when Nemesis was doing just the same.


Fair point but you can't argue that I wasnt pushing VE.

Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 08:39 Probulous wrote:
On March 22 2012 08:29 Toad_in_Pink_Dress wrote:
On March 22 2012 08:25 johnnywup wrote:
On March 22 2012 08:19 Probulous wrote:
Does everyone else understand what VE is saying?

not really, this is way over my head right now @_@ i'll vote for whoever sand votes for, really..

also TIPD what the fuck have you done all game anyways? post randomly about who you think is scum and whos inno, and then vote occasionally?

Maybe i would answer if you were not such a cunt
+ Show Spoiler +
swearing is bad children, don't do it



Really?

Come on son there is no need for that. I agree with Johnny that you have been useless this game. Laya, I don't expect anything from Bluelightz but you are a decent scum-hunter. Shape up.

Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 09:52 Probulous wrote:
After we lynch slOosh we lynch TIPD.


No posts in between. Just jumps from the first post to the second. The only new information from TIPD is
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 09:40 Toad_in_Pink_Dress wrote:
I'm dead in Aperture Mafia so I can put more time to this now.


He is willing to see TIPD shape up, sees the post where TIPD gives reason for inactivity/lurking and then decides that TIPD should be the next lynch. I think it is a distraction to get us away from talking about me and him as he does not like the direction it is heading - and it looks like he just went through his filter and made everything look bad.

I mean take this:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 09:52 Probulous wrote:
Here we have a nice little attempt at outing the Cop (assuming we have one) (Klicky). Follow the cop only works if we have a medic, with two roleblocks claimed it is possible that instead of a medic we have a town roleblocker. Then comes a blatant bandwagon vote for slOosh (Klicky) and a useless put down of both VE and myself (Klicky).

So what, a blatant bandwagon on someone who you are sure is scum is a scum tell? Nuh-uh. Town don't think like that.


You are really stretching here. A bandwagon of any sort is scummy because you don't provide any reasoning for your vote. As for TIPD, I spent all morning defending myself from accusations I wasnt scum hunting. When I got the chance I took a look at those on the Jackal wagon and he jumped out at me.

Do you have any issue with case itself? No only with my apparent change of mind. Well yes my mind did change because I actually read his filter carefully. What is your problem here?

From phone
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 22 2012 14:11 GMT
#819
Okay, the way I see it we're either flipping slOosh or we're no-lynching.

##Unvote: Probulous
##Vote: slOosh


Not sure how I feel about it, given the roleblock claim. If it's legit, initial reaction is that he's probably town...but going back over his filter, he doesn't do anything like blue-slip or lurk or anything. I can't imagine why scum would roleblock him.

So, if I had to guess, I'd say that it was town who roleblocked him and scum who roleblocked me. Obviously speculation, but it at least puts my mind at ease about flipping slOosh...the chances are much greater that slOosh is scum (in my eyes) since it appears that town RB'd slOosh.

If anyone has any serious reservations about slOosh flipping, now is the time guys. If we want to switch targets, we need to start talking about it now. I'm okay with slOosh flipping, myself.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
March 22 2012 14:23 GMT
#820
On March 22 2012 16:50 Dirkzor wrote:
Oh my. Why did slOosh keep quite during the probulous interrogation and now when the focus is back on himself he starts posting more?

Spring break = I'm busy during evenings which is when the discussion really picked up.
I'm only able to glance the thread and so I waited until I had time to read through the new information and post accordingly.
But I can't really prove that so I guess if it looks suspicious to you then that is that.

On March 22 2012 18:59 Probulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 15:51 slOosh wrote:
On March 22 2012 07:53 Probulous wrote:
The only one who was really pushing [VE] was me. Sure sandroba was a little skeptical of you but you were in no danger of being lynched. The upside was minimal compared to losing a scum buddy.

Nemesis' filter would argue with that. Trying to claim town cred when Nemesis was doing just the same.


Fair point but you can't argue that I wasnt pushing VE.

I can't, but that is not what you initially said - "the only one who was really pushing [VE]".
Stretching the truth to look town is something town don't need to do.

On March 22 2012 18:59 Probulous wrote:
Show nested quote +

On March 22 2012 08:39 Probulous wrote:
On March 22 2012 08:29 Toad_in_Pink_Dress wrote:
On March 22 2012 08:25 johnnywup wrote:
On March 22 2012 08:19 Probulous wrote:
Does everyone else understand what VE is saying?

not really, this is way over my head right now @_@ i'll vote for whoever sand votes for, really..

also TIPD what the fuck have you done all game anyways? post randomly about who you think is scum and whos inno, and then vote occasionally?

Maybe i would answer if you were not such a cunt
+ Show Spoiler +
swearing is bad children, don't do it



Really?

Come on son there is no need for that. I agree with Johnny that you have been useless this game. Laya, I don't expect anything from Bluelightz but you are a decent scum-hunter. Shape up.

On March 22 2012 09:52 Probulous wrote:
After we lynch slOosh we lynch TIPD.


No posts in between. Just jumps from the first post to the second. The only new information from TIPD is
On March 22 2012 09:40 Toad_in_Pink_Dress wrote:
I'm dead in Aperture Mafia so I can put more time to this now.


He is willing to see TIPD shape up, sees the post where TIPD gives reason for inactivity/lurking and then decides that TIPD should be the next lynch. I think it is a distraction to get us away from talking about me and him as he does not like the direction it is heading - and it looks like he just went through his filter and made everything look bad.

I mean take this:
On March 22 2012 09:52 Probulous wrote:
Here we have a nice little attempt at outing the Cop (assuming we have one) (Klicky). Follow the cop only works if we have a medic, with two roleblocks claimed it is possible that instead of a medic we have a town roleblocker. Then comes a blatant bandwagon vote for slOosh (Klicky) and a useless put down of both VE and myself (Klicky).

So what, a blatant bandwagon on someone who you are sure is scum is a scum tell? Nuh-uh. Town don't think like that.


You are really stretching here. A bandwagon of any sort is scummy because you don't provide any reasoning for your vote. As for TIPD, I spent all morning defending myself from accusations I wasnt scum hunting. When I got the chance I took a look at those on the Jackal wagon and he jumped out at me.

Based on your reads that both me and TIPD are scum, you are willing to believe all of the following:
1) As a scum team we decided that one of us should bandwagon Jackal and the other one should stay off and draw attention onto themselves
2) As a scum team, now that I am suspicious in D2 we decide that we should do the softest bus ever and the best possible way to do it without suspicion is
On March 21 2012 08:15 Toad_in_Pink_Dress wrote:
We have agreed to vote slOosh

##Vote: slOosh

3) As a scum team, I was willing to point out that TIPD was lurking on D1 and draw attention to him unnecessarily
On March 19 2012 14:30 slOosh wrote:
Has everyone just learned to ignore TIPD (Toad_in_Pink_Dress)'s posts?
Contents of filter:
- bunch of fluff
- expression of suspicion on Tobon but no actions indicating a desire to make a better judgement as indicated by general inactivity and his lack of response to this quote
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 07:01 Tobon wrote:
On March 19 2012 06:51 Toad_in_Pink_Dress wrote:
We are suspicious of Tobon but wish to see more posts from him before making a judgement that we can agree upon.
Tha't fine. And what are your thoughts about VE's vote and then unvote for Johnnywup? And which, out of Sloosh and Xsksc do you think makes the better case?

- a desire to lynch Nemesis without backing up with any reasoning

and again when in the midst of intense scrutiny the first thing I choose to voice is my concern of TIPD's lurking again
On March 21 2012 14:06 slOosh wrote:
Concerns right now:
TIPD is lurking hard and threw a vote on me without any reasoning. As it is I think the whole town is lynching me, so you will find scum on that list - and this is the same concern I had about jackal lynch - there isn't any voting pattern analysis but people sheeping and bandwagoning without repercussions.




On March 22 2012 18:59 Probulous wrote:
Do you have any issue with case itself? No only with my apparent change of mind. Well yes my mind did change because I actually read his filter carefully. What is your problem here?

From phone


Most issues were already addressed by others before I was able to read and post. Echoing them isn't going to help anyone.
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