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On March 22 2012 08:22 VisceraEyes wrote:I'm taking a step back. Maybe reread your filter. If you still look like scum, I'll try and explain it to you again.
In the meantime, I'll just point out that the italicized statement in the quote above indicates inherent self-guilt. If you'll notice, there's a fair amount of resistance to switching off slOosh...but I'm sure it doesn't feel that way to you.
No it doesn't because I am still catching up on what happened between last night and now. Everyone sheeped sandroba Day 1 and now both you and him are pushing me. I see a miss-lynch coming. When I wrote that, I meant in the future generally, as in my logic won't change unless you can explain to me why it is bad so I will get miss-lynched in the future.
Anyway, I am going to take a break and try and regather myself. I'm a little frustrated now and I don't think it is helping my posting.
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On March 22 2012 08:25 johnnywup wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 08:19 Probulous wrote:
Does everyone else understand what VE is saying? not really, this is way over my head right now @_@ i'll vote for whoever sand votes for, really.. also TIPD what the fuck have you done all game anyways? post randomly about who you think is scum and whos inno, and then vote occasionally?
Maybe i would answer if you were not such a cunt
+ Show Spoiler +swearing is bad children, don't do it
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im sorry ill stop being a cunt my bad my bad </3
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On March 22 2012 08:29 Toad_in_Pink_Dress wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 08:25 johnnywup wrote:On March 22 2012 08:19 Probulous wrote:
Does everyone else understand what VE is saying? not really, this is way over my head right now @_@ i'll vote for whoever sand votes for, really.. also TIPD what the fuck have you done all game anyways? post randomly about who you think is scum and whos inno, and then vote occasionally? Maybe i would answer if you were not such a cunt + Show Spoiler +swearing is bad children, don't do it
Really?
Come on son there is no need for that. I agree with Johnny that you have been useless this game. Laya, I don't expect anything from Bluelightz but you are a decent scum-hunter. Shape up.
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I'm dead in Aperture Mafia so I can put more time to this now.
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Just rereading prob's filter, I just have a quick question, you said you were in a company meeting??? So that means that you are working full time?
I read through a bit about your other games, and it says there that you are attending class everyday and a student?
I highly doubt that you have time for both, so which is it?
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EBWOP NVM, that was actually the other guy in bromancipate in NMM3
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After we lynch slOosh we lynch TIPD.
On March 19 2012 19:03 Toad_in_Pink_Dress wrote:
I'm not sure of Probulous but I think a DT should check him I think This is so scummy it is not funny. Only scum push provide single targets for the DT. It narrows the pool of suggested targets to townies. I know this because I am his suggested target.
On the lurkers, I think we should keep on the pressure, I'm waiting on Jackal cause I never get a correct read on him(except in purgatory mafia mwahahahhaha) I'm gonna read up some past games of him as town and scum to compare, for reference to anyone that is going to compare Mafia, I will use MLP Mafia for his town games and TL Mafia XLVIII as for his scum games. I'm gonna talk about this with my other part as soon as I can. This has been used as a reason for TIPD being town  He just says he is waiting on Jackal. How is that pressure? The irony is that he wants to pressure lurkers but is absent from this thread more than most.
Here (Klicky) he actually defends Jackal.
On March 19 2012 20:56 Toad_in_Pink_Dress wrote:
jcarl, about your statement on Jackal I think he justs lurk his heart out day 1 =_=, just take a look at the latest Mr.Wiggles Mini, he had like 3 posts d1 but he did post more AFTER it ==". Jackal was town that game, this looks a soft-defense to me. Then comes this
Since your here, I'd like to give you this question, What do you think about lurking? Is it a Scummy or Towny trait? I feel that lurking IS both a scummy & towny trait, Scummy because scum avoid contributing, but also towny because most newbie townies tend to lurk, but there is that exception for those who are known to do that ==". Jackal is no newbie, he is clearly a veteran and well aware of how bad lurking is for town. Again, this looks like a soft-defense to me.
On March 20 2012 04:08 Toad_in_Pink_Dress wrote:
We both think Jackal looks about as scummy as he typically does
More soft defense from here (Klicky).
At this point they have been very careful about Jackal. This is the meat of their reasoning for voting for him (Klicky)
On March 20 2012 06:12 Toad_in_Pink_Dress wrote:Our reasons: He posts a little at the start but then He does very little to move discussion forward or even participate in it The closest thing to analysis he produced was this and he follows it with a vote after VE prods him. he pops back in to sheep the case on snarf with a vote, minutes after it was posted. This indicates to me that he is not looking for scum but rather a place to put his vote. Which is a fairly solid case, especially since Jackal flipped mafia. However note how it is hardly any different than anything they have been saying earlier. Namely that Jackal is useless. Note how it comes after sandroba, johnnywup, Dirkzor and xksc had voted for him. It also comes after sandroba outlined his reasoning here (Klicky). This is a bandwagon change of vote disguised as a case.
Here we have a nice little attempt at outing the Cop (assuming we have one) (Klicky). Follow the cop only works if we have a medic, with two roleblocks claimed it is possible that instead of a medic we have a town roleblocker. Then comes a blatant bandwagon vote for slOosh (Klicky) and a useless put down of both VE and myself (Klicky).
The only thing going for TIPD right now is their vote on Jackal. It was pretty early (5th vote) and most people who voted for him seemed to bandwagon sandroba. I could easily see them being bussing Jackal to avoid suspicion today. I am more comfortable with a slOosh lynch because of his unvote, but if he is getting let off (why?) than TIPD is our lynch target today.
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On March 22 2012 09:48 Nemesis wrote:
Just rereading prob's filter, I just have a quick question, you said you were in a company meeting??? So that means that you are working full time?
I read through a bit about your other games, and it says there that you are attending class everyday and a student?
I highly doubt that you have time for both, so which is it?
I saw your EBWOP but for clarity's sake, yes I do both actually. I work full time and I study part time (by correspondence). In short I have no life. I play mafia when I am work because my job is boring as batshit.
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On March 20 2012 07:27 sandroba wrote:
Yes, but cop should only claim on a red check or to save an innocent from lynch. DT check on VE would put my mind at ease.
I guess sandroba is scum since only scum do this.
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On March 22 2012 09:56 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 07:27 sandroba wrote:
Yes, but cop should only claim on a red check or to save an innocent from lynch. DT check on VE would put my mind at ease. I guess sandroba is scum since only scum do this.
I thought follow the cop was where the cop outs themselves with a check (any kind) and the medic saves them from then on? The cop survives as long as the medic does and can have his checks suggested by confirmed townies. It confirms another townie and makes mafia WIFOM about shooting the cop. There is a difference between giving up the cop for a confirmed red and just blindly outing themselves.
The way I read it sandroba is being pretty specific about when we should follow the cop whilst TIPD is not.
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On March 19 2012 19:03 Toad_in_Pink_Dress wrote:
I'm not sure of Probulous but I think a DT should check him I think
On March 20 2012 07:27 sandroba wrote:
DT check on VE would put my mind at ease.
lol
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Only scum do that, right? Let's lynch sandroba!
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Well, interestingly I wasn't referring to the 'follow the cop' part of the quote, I was referring to the part of the quote where he only provides one name for a DT to check. You know, the scum-tell you just educated us about. So should we lynch sandroba? Him targetting me for a DT check had nothing to do with the whole 'follow the cop' thing, he provided one target for the DT. Something only scum do right? We vote-switchin or what?
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On March 22 2012 10:03 xsksc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 19:03 Toad_in_Pink_Dress wrote:
I'm not sure of Probulous but I think a DT should check him I think Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 07:27 sandroba wrote:
DT check on VE would put my mind at ease. lol
Ok, I guess that part of my case is weak, but what about the rest of it?
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How's this for the rest of it. The meat of your case is his defense of Jackal.
I defended Jackal for a fair amount of D1. How is that any different? What makes TIPD scum rather than me?
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thats more of a commentary than pbpa imo
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On March 22 2012 10:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
Well, interestingly I wasn't referring to the 'follow the cop' part of the quote, I was referring to the part of the quote where he only provides one name for a DT to check. You know, the scum-tell you just educated us about. So should we lynch sandroba? Him targetting me for a DT check had nothing to do with the whole 'follow the cop' thing, he provided one target for the DT. Something only scum do right? We vote-switchin or what?
That part was wrong I guess. I don't like people pushing blues around, especially if they are specific about individuals. You have to admit it is an easy way for mafia to make sure they don't get checked. If sandroba had said that without being confirmed mason I would have pushed him on it as well.
Does that invalidate my whole case? What is your position on TIPD?
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On March 22 2012 10:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
How's this for the rest of it. The meat of your case is his defense of Jackal.
I defended Jackal for a fair amount of D1. How is that any different? What makes TIPD scum rather than me?
You
"Jackal is clearly town"
TIPD
"Jackal always lurks Day 1 and this is scummy"
Big difference in my mind.
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On March 21 2012 16:16 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 16:03 johnnywup wrote:
What's everyones take on TIPD? They haven't contributed that much and have been fairly inactive.. As I said, TIPD was one of the first to actually agree that Jackal is at least moderately suspicious this game. The only thing I'm put off by is how little actual effort appears to be coming from the hydra - like, a bunch of their posts imply that they've been in communication and have reached a conclusion, but there's never any reasoning behind it...just the conclusion.
Ultimately null.
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