Aperture Mafia

On March 11 2012 05:37 Jayjay54 wrote:




great. get new names. and I dare Jayjay_90 to come in here.

On March 14 2012 22:57 Sbrubbles wrote:
/in ! Yaaaaay !

On March 16 2012 06:29 Drazerk wrote:
So no cake then...

On March 09 2012 15:36 GreYMisT wrote:

Player List

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11. blzinghand

On March 16 2012 10:00 Adam4167 wrote:
Yeah, saw that about a week ago.

Would you like to buy a vowel?

On March 16 2012 10:03 Adam4167 wrote:
Possibly a capital letter also.

otherwise, when that blzinghand guy gets killed, just keep posting, since its not you

On March 16 2012 15:10 sinani206 wrote:


scummy scum scum

On March 16 2012 17:07 Drazerk wrote:


Day 0 Draz claims medic to protect VE

On March 16 2012 17:13 Drazerk wrote:


Day 0 Draz flips medic and town lynches BH as a scum Day vig

On March 16 2012 17:16 Drazerk wrote:


Possibly because you shot the medic...

On March 17 2012 08:17 Paperscraps wrote:


Yeah, I didn't think about thiefs, etc... Probably best to not disclose things right now.

On March 17 2012 08:22 Drazerk wrote:
I claim the day vig that killed VE

On March 17 2012 08:22 Zephirdd wrote:
I'm not entirely sure it was a modkill. Sounds like a dayvig type of thing. idk. I don't think there was a reason to modkill him.

anyways, whoever vigged him is the luckiest guy ever wtf. So we know we are at Sleeper Cell III with an extra family here.

On March 17 2012 08:24 Paperscraps wrote:


You have got some balls, haha.

Well now we know there is third party roles in this game. Should make things interesting.

On March 17 2012 08:27 MidnightGladius wrote:
Zephirdd, it's confirmed that he wasn't modkilled, and I don't see the post you're referring to.

Drazerk, how is it in the town's interest to essentially kill a player at random? Also, why wouldn't you claim before vigging to actually confirm that it was your action? Doing so afterwards raises much more suspicion.

I'm going to assume that, as per the OP, that mafia will flip red. Third parties, indeed.

On March 17 2012 08:28 Drazerk wrote:


Sorry mate I presumed that you would either be scum, third party or have an item all of which was pro bonus for me... if you was town oh well I would of took the heat for it but still would of claimed it

On March 17 2012 08:30 Zephirdd wrote:


Oh, I never meant they both were SCells. I just mean that we are at a Sleeper Cell-esque game that includes another scum faction, which probably has normal communication(assumptions and assumptions).

On March 17 2012 08:33 Jayjay54 wrote:


did you notice the (OP:unique) kill flavour? consumed by shadow and flame.

I can't help but notice how this might indicate being a shadowsinger....

On March 17 2012 09:16 Jayjay54 wrote:


How do you know there's just 4 and not 9 cell agents? Random assumption? Whatever these alignment speculations don't get us anywhere...

I am just pointing out the flavour so it is noticed. Again, kill can be compulsive or he looks for an item. We don't know shit. But you're right, it's way too early to claim an alignment here. Still, this deserves an entry in every spreadsheet.

On March 17 2012 08:19 GreYMisT wrote:
You do not know the other 3 members, however you do know a Cell leader is in this game, and you may receive messages from him during the day or night phase. Your win condition is for the Cell to outnumber the remaining players in the game.

On March 17 2012 10:00 Drazerk wrote:
I propose Velinath gets Wheatley then - I have my reasons but I am going to need you to trust me on this one other whys I might screw towns chances at victory.

##Elect: Velinath

On March 17 2012 10:08 Maverick32x wrote:



Geez, you really posted that rather quickly after he put his hat in there... I know you said that you'd like us to trust you.. but that's asking a lot..

I do appreciate Velinath's accountability though, more so than Gonzaw's...

On March 17 2012 10:11 Drazerk wrote:


Honestly that was just bad timing as you can see I have been posting rapidly all game I chose to vote for Velinath for something he had already done and wanted myself to be the one to propose him.

On March 17 2012 10:13 Jayjay54 wrote:
I agree. gonzaw is not a good candidate.

also, self voting is as stupid as it could be and should be ruled out in any mafia game as it basically undermines the purpose of an election on day 1: give information to town.

On March 17 2012 10:21 MidnightGladius wrote:


If that is the case, and we end up having to deal with renegade Wheatley, we'll be losing a PR. Why not elect a vanilla town like me, instead?

On March 17 2012 11:07 gonzaw wrote:
I get a bad feeling out of Blazinghand, specially with his cockyness.

On March 17 2012 11:07 gonzaw wrote:





Do you think Drazerk is town or scum? What do you mean by "you can play better than this"?
Are you assuming he's town?
If so, why wouldn't you trust him on something that happens to be based on his role or actions with his items?

On March 17 2012 11:14 gonzaw wrote:
Also people, what do you guys think about Blazinghand, Wiggles and Drazerk?

On March 17 2012 15:14 gonzaw wrote:
Lanaina, sinani, Zephird, what do you think about Blazinghand?
And what do you think about Midnight?

Any other thoughts/reads from you guys are welcomed

On March 17 2012 15:21 gonzaw wrote:
Kay.
You know, I expect people to state their reasons whenever they say "I think X is town/scum", that way we don't waste thread space by asking you for them.

Either way, why do you think BH is town?

On March 17 2012 15:26 Lanaia wrote:



I didn't think it mattered as much when I think he's town, but...

From what I've seen of him town in the past...





These things seem to be typical of him. He, from what I've seen, watches his mouth more as town, and I'm not getting that vibe from these posts.

On March 17 2012 15:48 Kenpachi wrote:
its not standard mafia game. i was referring to the team set up (language sucks) and Wiggles nailed it in his post.

I cant give more info than i get the superpower if the conditions are met and the restrictions are followed (or ill be modkilled).
so srs vote glados. i dont see how it could hurt town at all. What more could i offer? oh i have an item. ill give it to the election winner regardless of who it is if i reach majority for killing GLaDOS.
nothing else i can do except get trust. But im more than capable of using analysis when im town and focused.
But thats all words, the sooner we kill GLaDOS, the better for town itll become. I am indeed BEGGING for you guys to comply to my wish but if i cant get majority, there is no loss involved because im completely town oriented.

On March 17 2012 15:51 Kenpachi wrote:
BH lets be assholes together. we will conquer town with the self proclaimed 3rd party
Blazing Kenpachi Party. our motto would be familiar to the Italian guy you know and love


Me ne frego

Our Win condition? we win with town

On March 17 2012 15:58 gonzaw wrote:
So, does that make me suspicious or just "not bright"? You should probably clarify things.
Also I think you missed that post with my reads, go check it.

On March 09 2012 15:36 GreYMisT wrote:

Voting rules:

1. Voting is done in a separate thread. Please keep votes there, and only vote there. Do not PM me your vote.
2. Please vote in the following format: ##Vote Qatol. Votes not done in the correct fashion will not be counted. I will

On March 17 2012 21:11 zelblade wrote:
EBWOP:

typo

On March 18 2012 07:58 gonzaw wrote:



Radfield lynch again much?
I won't let you nor anyone choose to follow this, just no....

On March 18 2012 07:58 gonzaw wrote:
Also you have to unvote C_C before voting zelblade.


BH, why did you go to zelblade like this? And don't give me the "I'm just trying to pressure him" crap because you know this "pressure" of yours won't go anywhere because it only dwells around an EBWOP and a typo.

Why would you choose to follow this kind of reasoning against zelblade, instead of trying to find scum using other methods by analysing their posts and motivations?



Also I'm leaving in a couple minutes, maybe an hour, just in case.

On March 18 2012 08:00 Velinath wrote:
Honestly, BH, that seems like a stretch. I would certainly not consider lynching this early based on that.

Same with your "Cyber_Cheese is scum" call. How do you get there based on a complete lack of posting especially this early? If he's lurking due to being scum, he'll have to post soon or risk modkill. If he's lurking due to something else - say, real life - well, I guess my big issue here is that this early especially, there's no way to really discern this.

On March 18 2012 08:05 Jayjay54 wrote:
there's two more reasons to lynch drazer right now, if we believe him.

a) he claims to have 3 items. Assuming the anger thing is fake, he still has two important items, which means, there's a good chance that we can get to town by lynching (assuming town votes here). I believe a DT item is pretty cool on a more trusted player.

b) he claims to have a portal gun, which makes him unshotable. I assume it's a busdriver thing.

I actually think, we make a mistake, if we leave him alive. He lied about his wincon and is still lying. I believe he's third looking at the general reactions, but I think he is not at all town favouring.

On March 18 2012 08:25 gonzaw wrote:
Okay people, assume zelblade IS indeed Sleeper Agent and is communicating with his buddies..



....which scum in their right mind would take a "correction of a typo" as a tell that he found his scumbuddy?
No one!

Even if he's Sleeper Agent, his buddies would most likely think he's town or null to them. They find each other via the encrypted messages they send each other, and via the behaviour in the thread, not by EBWOPS and typos.

Hell, maybe the SA would have killed their scumbuddy zelblade tonight if you hadn't mentioned that.


But really, if zelblade did in fact do that as SA it was a pretty stupid move from his part.
Even if he is a SA (this doesn't exonerate him, he hasn't contributed much and I want him to answer my questions as well) I doubt he did that on purpose to communicate with his scumbuddies..


..I can't believe I really have to explain this.

On March 17 2012 08:19 GreYMisT wrote:
Role PM: + Show Spoiler +

On March 18 2012 08:25 gonzaw wrote:
....which scum in their right mind would take a "correction of a typo" as a tell that he found his scumbuddy?
No one!

On March 18 2012 09:04 phagga wrote:

For the election, Blazinghand is a valid candidate, Velinath might be as well. However, I still feel we will have the need to get rid of Wheatley somewhere later on, so I'm not sure if I want to send a competent townie on the post. As someone else mentioned, perhaps vote one of the lesser players for that role. I will therefore hold my election vote back for the moment.

On March 18 2012 09:22 phagga wrote:


I just want to avoid that we are giving one of the better players this role and one day later we have to vigi him because he suddenly turns against town.

there are people in here trying to kill GLaDOS. Have you played the game? After GLaDOS gets put in a potato, Wheatley runs the show, and it's not a good thing. That's what I'm afraid of.

On March 18 2012 09:49 Velinath wrote:

So if you're arguing that we should vote you on the basis of avoiding electing a power role, are you claiming vanilla townie?

On March 18 2012 10:12 Blazinghand wrote:


No comment.

On March 18 2012 10:14 Velinath wrote:

I feel like you kind of made it an issue with your last post.

On March 18 2012 10:23 Velinath wrote:
ebwop: On a completely unrelated note, if lurkers are still lurking at the end of the day, I see no problem vigging them, if only to increase the proportion of active, contributing players. Not having to worry about noncontributors (people who, by nature, are difficult to build cases on) means that we can scumhunt among an easier set of players to scumhunt in.

On March 18 2012 17:33 Dirk Hardpec wrote:
Why are people giving me their votes?

On March 18 2012 19:35 Drazerk wrote:
JayJay - Anger core is used up on use
If I am leading in votes by lynch time I will be passing the guns to someone I believe will screw the town the most
When I flip I am going to laugh at you

On March 18 2012 19:48 Drazerk wrote:


I am only a threat to town if you are a threat to me. Leave me alone and we will be fine.

On March 19 2012 08:07 Velinath wrote:

How do you figure? He had role names, throwing out random accusations means nothing. I'm town.

On March 20 2012 03:38 Nisani201 wrote:
It was more of a joke anyways.

On March 20 2012 03:43 Blazinghand wrote:


The only joke in this thread is your filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=319120&user=105586&currentpage=All

On March 20 2012 03:48 Grackaroni wrote:

Yesterday you were in the thread but you were being silent.
(when you were asking about veli's roles) that's not like yourself.
FYI, people have said that this game is full of blue roles so that won't be a valid excuse for you to be holding back on us.

On March 20 2012 03:51 Blazinghand wrote:


Is there a question there?

On March 20 2012 03:54 Jayjay54 wrote:


Hey, I heroicly (?) help him.

Why did your behaviour turn 180° when you lost the elections? Your posts regarding his role were odd as well. Then you disappeared.

On March 20 2012 03:55 Jayjay54 wrote:
regarding *velis role. And not that you asked them, but how.

On March 20 2012 03:57 Grackaroni wrote:

That was very defensive do you have something to hide?
Knowing your playstyle your being unusually quiet.
JJ also does raise a good point as well.

On March 20 2012 03:59 Grackaroni wrote:

I've only remembered you from one thing this game.
Calling out a suspicious post from Zelblade.

On March 20 2012 04:01 Grackaroni wrote:

Your votes seemed suspicious.
You did nothing pro-town before calling out Zelblade and people wanted to elect you.
Why did you want to run for the election?
It does in fact seem like you quit playing to an extent after losing it.

On March 20 2012 04:02 Blazinghand wrote:


Since losing the election, I asked veli some questions, went to bed, went to class, then came back. It has not been very long. I will not entertain your lunacy any further. If you have a real case, make it. Otherwise, get off my lawn.

On March 20 2012 04:04 Jayjay54 wrote:


yea, because this game seems to have no blues in it and no vigs are possible. makes perfect sense.

Why would we stop scumhunting at night? If someone can't defend himself properly, he gets vigged. It's that easy.

And yea, the tone was upsetting, you just asked the same question in 5 words two times in a row and than disappeared without further comment. Combine that with your hard struggle to become Wheatley, that makes oneself curious...

On March 20 2012 04:04 Blazinghand wrote:


Also, what, my votes seemed suspicious? Are you fucking kidding me? Here's what I did:

1) voted Cyber_Cheese for totally reasonable reasons
2) saw zelblade's "slip" (and he has not been captain mchelpful since) and voted him for that totally reasonable reason.
3) refused to negotiate with terrorists

Oh you're right clearly I'm suspicious, definitely i'm a problem and not a guy like you or nisani or something!

On March 20 2012 04:06 Grackaroni wrote:

There's a difference, I don't expect much from Nisani. He's playing his standard game, I'm not sure that you are.
You voted for Cyber_Cheese because he had no posts.
I did give you credit for noticing Zelblade's post but you got votes before that even happened.

On March 20 2012 04:08 Jayjay54 wrote:
man BH you are really reacting hard to a couple of questions. stop being so agressive. No one even called you scum. We just want to understand your actions

I don' agree with this here:



we need discussions so THAT vigs can be directed.

On March 20 2012 04:09 Dirk Hardpec wrote:
Also, the fact Grack is also going for Blazinghand, someone I have a pretty strong town read on bothers me a lot.

On March 20 2012 04:10 Jayjay54 wrote:


I defended you quite a bit, but this post is bad and OMGUS. Why would you assume that Grack is scum, just because he thinks you are? You're not exactly townie.

On March 20 2012 04:10 Grackaroni wrote:

I never even said I was making a case on you. I'm pressuring you.

On March 20 2012 04:14 Maverick32x wrote:
Maybe you can clear this up for me Blazinghand-
Why are you being so abrasive with everyone? If you are 'town' wouldn't you want to try to get people on your side instead of just acting like a small child?

Right now I'm thinking Kenpachi and Blazing are 3rd party at best.. scum at worst..

On March 20 2012 04:14 gonzaw wrote:
For fucks sake Blazinghand stop clogging this thread up with overly-aggressive bullshit and misdirection (and possible strawmen).






You didn't really do much on D1 except for being very aggresive, voting C_C, pointing out that shitty zelblade thing, and then just voting Drazerk like everybody else.

Now you come here all-selfrighteous and shit about how you are the most pro-town player, and the first thing you post is a seemeingly random aggressive response to another player instead of reading the thread and respond to pressure applied to you, and posting your thoughts.


Really, calm the fuck down and do something productive; and if you are ever pressured and suspected, don't act like this anymore.

You can be aggressive without being an asshole

On March 20 2012 04:17 Grackaroni wrote:

No the main reason is that you seem to be hiding.
If it wasn't for you getting voted for election and pointing out zelblade's post I wouldn't remember you were playing.
The election thing I added is just that I found it suspicious that you were getting votes without being overly pro-town.

On March 20 2012 01:27 gonzaw wrote:
Here, I'll make you a list of all the players lurking:



Currently lurking:
-Mr Wiggles
-Kitaman27
-Ghost_403
-Blazinghand
-sinani
-Lanaia
-Paperscraps
-Nisani201
-Adam4167
-Cwave
-Cyber_Cheese
-RayzorFlash (when he wasn't responding to my case)
-MidnightGladius
-Maverick32x



Players that lurked until few moments ago:
-Zephird
-zelblade
-blubdavid
-Bluelightz
-Dirk Hardpec



So yeah, I'd say I'm 99% sure many scum are lurking.

On March 20 2012 04:20 Grackaroni wrote:

It only really takes 1-2 votes. it was a 2 candidate race, after a couple votes were thrown down nobody else got a 2nd vote.

On March 20 2012 04:28 gonzaw wrote:

@Grack: I'd really hope you don't kill Dirk tonight.
Even though he doesn't exactly scream townie, we can deal with him on D2, considering that at least he's willing to post.

I'd advise you to not shoot anyone tonight, and if you do, shoot the lurkers that aren't willing to post.




No, it wasn't really a useful post.

Again, sarcasm (almost everybody is "lurking" in some way or another in this game, so saying that scum may be lurking is kind of redundant).

On April 07 2012 00:57 Drazerk wrote:


I only claimed that after you guys started being awkward!