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Some thoughts on the item to be invented.
We are currently in the dark on how many people in each faction are left. I think it would be easier to scumhunt if we knew how many scum, cell, 3rd-party etc are left (and if there are any other partys we do not know by now). So I propose an item that let's us know how many members of each faction are still alive, if this is possible.
Alternatively we could also have a device that shows the flips of D1, this way we knew how many cell and mafia are really dead. However, knowing how many are still alive would be more useful.
And the third idea would be a plain day vig shot. We already have two scum in a group of three. The faster we get rid of them, the better. However, that one might backfire if it got into the hands of scum. Would it be possible to create a day-vig item that is only usable by town-aligned players?
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I just realized that my dayvig-item only usable by town is essentially the same as the double-lynch item of Midnight Gladius. And my "show how many player are still alive on each faction" is basically a colour radiator for everyone.
*sigh* looks like I suck as inventor :/
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blubbdavid: The original role (see here) was neutral, which makes sense as it is a "swiss" role. You claim town?
kitaman: But why would Kenpachi post it? If he was cell agent, he would not know who the leader was (except if he somehow already found out, which seems unlikely roughly 8 hours into the game).
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The intelligence core in the Portal games recites a (rather strange) cake recipe, see here.
No idea what it could do.
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So we agree that it should be an item that grants us additional KP, but it can not turn against town. Nisani, can you please check what options are possible? (day-vig only usable by town, double lynch, scatter shot)
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So, MidnightGladius was not 5th-party after all? And why did he have a kill flavor if he was only a normal townie. And what does that make Maverick?
Also, did you notice that the Lord of the black Flame is town? I went back and checked the Role PM of Drazerk again, and it says nothing of the beings of great power belonging to 3rd party. This means that the planar Dragon and/or the LotR could be either town, mafia or cell agents as well.
I'm a bit confused right now.
Foolishness: How exactly does the scatter shot work now? The two targets must be of different factions, right? So if we try to hit 2 mafia, it won't work? And what happens in that case, does one shit miss or do both shots miss? Will the shots be refunded?
Concerning the lynchtargets: None of them has a clear pro-town behaviour. Blubbdavid was the most active of the three, and what I see is rather scummy, as I pointed out several times. However, he claimed, and I doubt he would come up with a fakeclaim like this by himself. On the other side, Kenpach claims to have received a fakeclaim, perhaps blubbdavid did as well? Also, his reaction when kita revealed the results of the colour radiator was really scummy.
Kenpachi. Well, he's kenpachi. What I don't get about him is why should he have a fake claim if he was town? This is what bothers me most. Besides that, he wasn't really helpful to town, but I have the feeling it's kinda normal for him? He is the guy I would like to avoid lynching for now.
Dirk Hardpec really no longer cares for this game. He does not read the thread and does not interact with us at all. I have the feeling we can't do much wrong with lynching him. I will put my vote on him for now.
##Vote: Dirk Hardpec
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On March 29 2012 18:31 Jayjay54 wrote:
All in all, I feel like we're doing OK.
I agree. That flip with the explanation of kitas role (and therefore the deaths/visits of N1) gives me the impression that we might very well win this.
Anyway, does someone still have use for a lemon? I got one last night.
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On March 29 2012 23:20 Dirk Hardpec wrote:
I am on fire again, and I got some core thing now.
I still think we should be lynching nisani201. role != alignment.
You are aware that Nisani is actively helping scum hunting with his items? I'm not saying he is confirmed town, but we have a list with 3 people from which we know that 2 are scum. Why should we now lynch the guy that has helped us getting that list? That does not make any sense.
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Maverick: yeah, I just found it strange that there was no mentioning of the House Chezinu in the PM. Perhaps that part was cut out because it would reveal the other members or so. However, as Midnight was town I don't have much reason to not believe his 5th party claim.
blubbdavid:
I don't know if the two guys who died besides gonzaw are both scum. Would it make sense that two scum visit one townie the same night?
No, I assume that one mafia and/or cell agent was hit, ev. a blue or someone who wanted to give him an item as well. We will see after the Night kills which KPs are left.
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What info can we get from it? chances are there is only 1 mafia and/or 1 sleeper cell left, so it will be impossible to use except on town.
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So we vote david for the case that Nisani/Foolishness try to screw us over?
Suits me.
##Unvote: Dirk Hardpec
##Vote: blubbdavid
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ghost: As JJ wrote, we have no idea how many mafia there really are. Some originally thought 4, because there are 4 cells and we thought there are 4 3rd party members. We know by now that the last part is not true, as Kanti (Kita) was town and not 3rd party. It is therefore very well possible that mafia has 5 or 6 members.
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Foolishness Was sent to android hell, and Was Revived Day 3!
"Sent to android hell" is the kill flavor of bluelights, who was mafia:
+ Show Spoiler +Welcome to Aperture Mafia! You are the Aperture Science Military Android. As an Aperture Science Military Android, you can take on the appearance of anything you like. Please remember that because the Aperture Science Robotic Obedience Programming is so complex, there is unfortunately no room in your memory for Creative Modeling or Self-Awareness. You will have to simply mirror whoever you visit, and will have no recollection of this in the morning. The Enrichment Center once again reminds you that Android Hell is a real place, where you will be sent at the first sign of defiance. Your Personal Kill Flavor is “was sent to Android Hell.”
It is highly unlikely that mafia kill off one of their own in the first night. Hence Foolishness is probably not mafia.
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On March 30 2012 18:54 Companion Cube's Profile quote says:
The Companion Cube will never threaten to stab you, and does not speak. If it does speak, disregard its advice.
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Short question: If Dirk Hardpec is still burning, wouldn't Foolishnes get killed when he visits him to shoot him?
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So we have a majority on blubbdavid now with 6 votes (11 remaining players).
I'm off to bed. See you guys tomorrow.
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Dirk Hardpec has not voted. Does he not get modkilled?
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I agree with JJ that we should just waste the shot. the risk is too high that we accidentally kill two townies.
Kenpachi: The shot only kills 2 people of the same alignement. you and Dirk don't have the same alignement, so neither of you will die.
concerning the new item: I'd prefer the bat-vision goggles.
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On April 01 2012 06:58 Foolishness wrote:
I decided to do some analysis; it cost me no money,
But the end result, you will surely find funny.
Adam's the last sleeper cell
please send him off to hell
and even if I'm wrong, I assure you he's no townie.
You were saying?
oh, and
##Vote GLaDOS
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@Maverick: Making lists is a tool I use to a) remember people who is still in the game (lurkers) and b) find the people I want to concentrate on. I used lists extensively in SNMMVIII, where I was town as well.
Folishness: There is not much of a filter from him, so it's fairly easy to go through. He has attacked only people that flipped town or mafia. He attacked Dirk several times, and also went after paperscraps. I conclude that he is not mafia.
On March 26 2012 04:13 Foolishness wrote:
It is clear that we should not rest until
Paperscraps has been shot. But still,
kitaman as well
should be thrown to hell
and Maverick may also be worth a kill.
However, he soft defended Wiggles and davidblubb, which are the only people he talked positively about unasked.
On March 25 2012 02:47 Foolishness wrote:
I read the filters of kita and mr. wiggles,
and it's kita's posts that make me jiggle.
For sure we can kill kita;
get him out of this arena!
Wiggles we can leave alive, he makes me giggle.
On March 30 2012 03:11 Foolishness wrote:
Dirk is not of the town, I might add
He needs to be killed, he is quite bad.
He's kinda a creeper
so he might be a sleeper.
blubb is for sure town, Kenpachi is too mad.
He might very well be the remaining sleeper cell agent, and perhaps the last of the 4 great beings? could explain why he came back from the dead.
Maverick: He seems more clueless than scum to me, but that could just be his scum playstile. However, seeing as Midnight flipped town and claimed to be in the same 5th party as Maverick, I'd rather refrain from lynching him.
Mementoss: Every player with a powerfull role died after he claimed (Hassybaby, Kitaman, Grackaroni to some extent). Why is mementoss still alive? He is the towns medic currently, and could perhaps turn vigilante with the right core. Should he not be a high priority? He protected Dirk (who was scum) and claims to have protected Grackaroni, who died nevertheless. He barely posted any reads until very late into the game. He also seems like a good lynch target.
Nisani: He is playing along nicely so far. I will have to through his filter again, but I lean town on him currently.
JJ: Extremely active, looks very townish so far. However, I will also go through his filter again, because I don't trust anyone so far.
I'm running out of time, so I will provide my reads on Nisani and JJ later (in the next 24 hours).
It's weekend, and as always my activity is low. I hope to provide more information soon.
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