TL Mafia LII: JubJub Mafia - Page 87
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DoctorHelvetica
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
Read what your defense? Eh. Good effort tho :D I have thought you were mafia from the start. And yes I did read the thread i missed before typing. I still think your mafia tho. | ||
jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
On March 28 2012 03:56 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Question is meaningless. The amount of effort I put into the game based on personal factors is not indicative of anything besides how busy I am or are not. Anyway, this is why I believe JB is scum or the traitor. There is a sharp change in his behavior. He begins the game with a very soft stance on LaL. When he comes under fire for what he's talking about, he pulls back a little bit. There is also this gem which is typical of scum "We are unlikely to get a mafia day one So lynching a bad townie isn't to bad IF we choose to lynch him." TRANSLATION : When lurkers are lynched on the basis of being bad or just lurkers, it's very easy for scum to decide which lurkers are lynched. All they have to do, for example, is say "Hey, let's kill Abenson for lurking" instead of scum lurker Y and when it gets into late game they can swing each lynch where they want it. The problem with killing lurkers fast is that the best does not lead to lurker lynches, only the loudest voice does. The part in bold is what worries me the most. Lynch lists are beyond useless, I remember going off on VE for pages about his in Storm which got him so upset he almost quit so I won't beat a dead horse, but I still think it's scummier than not. This post was so early in the game that calling out a lurker is worthless, not only that, he's suggesting we already lynch one of these players just for not posting early into the day. Apologetic and wishy washy. This changes very fast. Lots of posts like this. He's really just summarizing what's happening and adding useless comments. Newfound confidence occurs after he goes after Kurumi. JB calling out Kurumi is what sparked his claim, this does not indicate that JB was town or anything. If this confirms JB to anyone then it must also confirm me because I pushed the case equally hard and voted for Kurumi as well. Don't have a double standard now. As a rule, I'm much less interested in who defends who than just who acts like scum. I'll second guess myself into a corner otherwise. I never tried to play this lynch for town cred or to "confirm" myself and then fish role claims out of people. Are you kidding me? JB gets away with that? Look at JB's logic here. This is the only post that makes me think "bad townie". He seems to genuinely view the game this way: Town - Only bandwagon or vote for scum. Never vote for a town aligned player. Scum - Only bandwagon or vote for town. If you vote for scum you're town, if you vote for town you're scum. Katina is scum for pushing Node when a lot of people suspected him? And me and JB are town because we got Kurumi lynched who was scum? Sorry, that's not how mafia works. Trying to discredit a townie? Again, more making cases based on the assumption that he is confirmed. Unbelievable. JB continues down this path. I believe JB was the traitor, probably rolechecked by scum Night 1 which explains his behavior coming out on Day 2. If Kurumi wasn't a planned bus, it could be a sloppy bus. I was sloppily bussed in HP Mafia and did a sloppy bus on LSB in that game too iirc. Basically, one player says "I'm just gonna bus Kurumi" but the rest of the scum don't go along with it, maybe some do or some don't, or see a chance to make mislynch/nolynch happen near the end and fuck with the vote. It could be any number of reasons. There is no denying JB had a sharp change of attitude from wishy washy/apologetic and only commentating on nothings/policies to brash, aggressive, confident, arrogant even pushing people and trying to force everyone to think he's confirmed based on nothing more than the fact that he posted a case on someone who was scum. Something I also did. Twice. If you think JB is town and I'm not JUST because I was busy and rude for a little bit (not too strange for me, I've almost been modkilled for rudeness and flaming as town before) and the fact that I PM'd Kurumi because I THOUGHT HE WAS SCUM AND THEN PUSHED HIS LYNCH DAY 2 you are a jubjub. Looking thru it the main basis for you thinking im scum is my change in playstyle huh. Let me explain this to you my dear Doctor. As I am still a relatively new player to forum mafia (played about 6ish games) I have never been in a position as town where I actively lead a lynch on a scum player. For the most part of my games as town I have been sheeping good townies. This game after day 1. I explained I am kind of useless day one because I like to have a day of voting done so I get a read on player's But after I saw Kurumi's Rattata tratior hint; I thought it was a serious indication that he was scum. Because of this I pushed him very hard to be lynched. I was pretty confident that he would be mafia. When he did turn out to be mafia this was a huge ego boost. This was my FIRST time leading a scum lynch as town. How cool is that? So of course I would try to be more confident in my reads. As far as i can tell this is the main reason you think im scum. I did go a bit to far claiming town cred lol I just needed my fix. (Thats for you VE ![]() But in all seriousness yes it was a mistake for me to assume people would see me as town just because I lead a scum lynch. It is an indication that someone is probably townie. However it's by no means makes you confirmed town. This is always the reason I was concerned about Palmar being declared a confirmed town. That was probably my biggest mistake this game. That and changing my mind on my Mr.Wiggles read. Also my dear Doctor just to be clear here On March 16 2012 16:46 jaybrundage wrote: First off I'm not begging for town cred. I'm demanding it. I did push Kurumi. But don't worry hopefully I'll get another scum tomorrow. Speaking of scum your looking pretty scummy there buddy. Want to go on the docket? Lets see didnt vote for Kurumi check. Trying to discredit a townie check. Let me ask you think ET do you think Katina is scummy and why. Im assuming your answer is going to be no because you know your her scum buddy. And um yea thats about it :D When I was talking about Katina discrediting a townie I was refering to VE who was dead at that point. Katina was calling out VE as scummy and later he turned out to be town. | ||
DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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Protactinium
Canada550 Posts
Night 6 ![]() Katina was buried alive. 24 hours to get in night actions. Day 6 Vote Count With 7 alive, its 4 to lynch Current votes: Katina (4): deconduo, layabout, EchelonTee, jaybrundage jaybrundage (1): DoctorHelvetica DoctorHelvetica (1): Not voting: Bill Murray | ||
Katina
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EchelonTee
United States5241 Posts
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Protactinium
Canada550 Posts
Endgame One day, there was much facepalming. On that day, it was lylo and town lynched town and lost. All that was left was this guy: ![]() having the time of his life. Role spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Asudw65CServdEI1Rm11aVVyTV9YcGFWcEJLeWxpdWc#gid=0 Mafia QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/9EVmwS3Tc3aU obs QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/YjPf86aJfHVA | ||
EchelonTee
United States5241 Posts
kind of an anticlimatic ending. the google doc is set on private atm can you share it? lmao at the obs qt | ||
Protactinium
Canada550 Posts
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Asudw65CServdEI1Rm11aVVyTV9YcGFWcEJLeWxpdWc | ||
DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
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EchelonTee
United States5241 Posts
when scum wins it's like a puppy got slapped in da face. Credit to my teammates; the Kurumi bus somehow managed to stifle town activity, and Caller as dayvig ended any chance of a town turn around. no idea how BM managed to stay under the radar for so long. props to DrH for planning most of the scum maneuvers. good team effort from scum, despite our disagreements from time to time ^^ | ||
DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
I planned a much more elaborate bus of Kurumi in which he made a fake DT claim incriminating Node, setting up Caller's shot, then claimed the person who claimed DT told him that scum must have used frame then the next day Kurumi would claim that DT was Palmar, giving Caller a believable reason to shoot Palmar and then setting up Kurumi to get bussed Day 3 but he ended up doing some dreamer claim when I wasn't paying attention because I was pissed that Caller wasn't just doing what I told him to do and kinda half ragequit the game at that point and stopped caring, plus I got super busy later (that wasn't a lie) I'm a control freak | ||
EchelonTee
United States5241 Posts
the acquisition of BM was at a godly timing... right after the DT check, we snapped him up. | ||
Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
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DoctorHelvetica
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EchelonTee
United States5241 Posts
On March 28 2012 13:13 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Why you guys don't listen to me? ![]() GG, Gents. yah you were quite on the right track, fingering myself, drh, and bm at certain points. i felt bad bringing you down with fake-o logic, you hosted my first game ![]() | ||
syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
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