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Blazinghand
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On February 23 2012 03:45 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2012 03:38 prplhz wrote:On February 23 2012 03:33 syllogism wrote:On February 23 2012 03:29 prplhz wrote:On February 23 2012 03:27 Toadesstern wrote:On February 23 2012 03:19 prplhz wrote:
I am not lying, it takes more time than 15 mins for me to read up on a page and make notes.
You should think this over syllogism because you're dead wrong and I think you have been right in just about everything else so far. I am trying my best this game, I am being active when you need me to be and I'm not being disruptive at all. There are way better targets around for a last-minute-switch. Names would be nice. Who are those people who are supposed to be way better targets? Why are you mentioning that but I have to ask you about this? Why are you not just trying to help right now and tell us what you think in the first place? Because I didn't want to post as long as I wasn't in danger of getting lynched and as long as I wasn't fully up date with my notes and with reading filters. That sounds almost too bad to be scum. You say you are trying your best, try to be active when "i need you (????)" and you've been making tons of notes. Yet despite all this, you have made no effort at all to stop a lynch of someone you consider town from happening. You never really even said who you would like to be lynched instead. What the fuck are you talking about. I complained about the redFF lynch and pushed the BloodyC0bbler lynch. Right now I am trying to stop the lynch of me and pushing the Blazinghand lynch. It may not be the best around but it's a ton better than me. You are trying to pull arguments out of the thin air with the "dissatisfied getting lynched day1" argument and the timing-argument. I agree with the other things you've said, I haven't been performing as I ideally wanted to be and as people would probably expect me to be. It's again the same thing. I don't want you to do a huge ass case within 5 minutes. I got that you're still reading but it feels like you're dodging the question. Who are those people. Just give us a couple of names, maybe a little sentence why and when you're done with that you may do another post later on and explain your thoughts. I just really want to hear something right now and so far you only say "there's way better options" and you keep saying that all the time without actually mentioning who that might be. You said BH is okayish but not the best lynch. Who would be the best lynch?
He's getting ready to vote me but wants cover if the wagon rolls through for when I flip town, obviously. Remember prplhz is captain mcwaffle.
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Off the top of my head, BloodyC0bbler is the one who looks most scummy to me. sylllogism, DoctorHelvetica and myself have made posts on him and I like those posts. Since we have dropped the BloodyC0bbler lynch I think that Blazinghand is a good lynch for town, especially if I'm the alternative.
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No we have not dropped the lynch, BC lynch is still a possibility
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On February 23 2012 03:43 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2012 03:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay guys, I'm switching to BH. I think he's scum too, and I can at least admit that we're losing less (no offense) being mistaken and lynching BH than we are being mistaken and lynching BC. ;_; man I don't see what the issue here is with the redFF lynch
Well, he believably claimed tracker and (at least for my part) my scumreads want him dead. That's MY issue with the redFF lynch.
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On February 23 2012 03:49 prplhz wrote:
Off the top of my head, BloodyC0bbler is the one who looks most scummy to me. sylllogism, DoctorHelvetica and myself have made posts on him and I like those posts. Since we have dropped the BloodyC0bbler lynch I think that Blazinghand is a good lynch for town, especially if I'm the alternative.
Would I not be a good lynch if you weren't the alternative?
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I also think that Jackal58 is being weird with his insistence on the possibility of several scum factions (ludicrous), his flip flopping on redFF (town redFF wouldn't think Jackal58 is a good scum hunter is a terrible argument, saying that we shouldn't lynch redFF anyway because Palmar will take care of him. What the fuck, you lynch scummy bastards you don't just expect them to get modkilled because they didn't talk for a day). Also, his Toadesstern tunneling looked very weird since I think we were beyond the more randomy initial phase when he started that. I don't care that he was drunk.
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On February 23 2012 03:50 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2012 03:43 Blazinghand wrote:On February 23 2012 03:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay guys, I'm switching to BH. I think he's scum too, and I can at least admit that we're losing less (no offense) being mistaken and lynching BH than we are being mistaken and lynching BC. ;_; man I don't see what the issue here is with the redFF lynch Well, he believably claimed tracker and (at least for my part) my scumreads want him dead. That's MY issue with the redFF lynch.
Would you be amenable to a redFF lynch tomorrow? I don't think it's legitimate for him to be so scummy, then just claim tracker and be like "welp no need to be in the thread anymore" since that's basically what he's done
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If BloodyC0bbler is a possiblity then I'm more up for that than anything else. I'm a little unsure of him but he's a ton better than lynching me. You can say that I am flip flopping, trying frantically to stay alive and that's true. When you're up for lynch then you would lynch anybody else (maybe besides syllogism who I think should be medic/jailed tonight).
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
prplhz you have like 2 votes on you you can stop shitting bricks
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Like, I think BloodyC0bbler is scummy but I'm always kinda unsure about my reads (because, allegedly, I'm bad). Sometimes I just fake it but I'm not doing that in this game because that wouldn't help on this crowd anyway.
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On February 23 2012 03:56 prplhz wrote:
Like, I think BloodyC0bbler is scummy but I'm always kinda unsure about my reads (because, allegedly, I'm bad). Sometimes I just fake it but I'm not doing that in this game because that wouldn't help on this crowd anyway.
Ah yes waffle more
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On February 23 2012 03:58 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2012 03:56 prplhz wrote:
Like, I think BloodyC0bbler is scummy but I'm always kinda unsure about my reads (because, allegedly, I'm bad). Sometimes I just fake it but I'm not doing that in this game because that wouldn't help on this crowd anyway. Ah yes waffle more
not helping dude
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Sigh prplhz why didn't you post those reads earlier. I'm switching back to BC for now but don't disappear anywhere
##vote bloodycobbler
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On February 23 2012 03:58 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2012 03:56 prplhz wrote:
Like, I think BloodyC0bbler is scummy but I'm always kinda unsure about my reads (because, allegedly, I'm bad). Sometimes I just fake it but I'm not doing that in this game because that wouldn't help on this crowd anyway. Ah yes waffle more
Be an asshole who is terrible at this game some more. Which is better?
I'm not waffling, I'm saying that I want to lynch BloodyC0bbler over anybody else. Being insecure about your read when you're accusing BloodyC0bbler is just common sense more than anything else. I heard that BloodyC0bbler is good at scum and this seems a bit easy, but then again he is good at town too. I have no idea why he's acting like this but bottom line is that it's scummy.
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Can someone please link me a game were BC was mafia? I can't find one...
I am considering voting him and screwing my "don't lynch vets"-rule I proposed.
But I'd like to look at a game he played as mafia really quick first.
I looked through his filter in his game and thought that his style is NOTHING like what he did in L and GM's big game on top of what syllo pointed out about his posts although I already said that it could very well be a wrong conclusion on syllos part.
Not to mention that his abstinence is kind of worrying as well.
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On February 23 2012 03:52 prplhz wrote:
I also think that Jackal58 is being weird with his insistence on the possibility of several scum factions (ludicrous), his flip flopping on redFF (town redFF wouldn't think Jackal58 is a good scum hunter is a terrible argument, saying that we shouldn't lynch redFF anyway because Palmar will take care of him. What the fuck, you lynch scummy bastards you don't just expect them to get modkilled because they didn't talk for a day). Also, his Toadesstern tunneling looked very weird since I think we were beyond the more randomy initial phase when he started that. I don't care that he was drunk.
I'm not insisting anything. I'm simply not ruling it out as a possibility. And I'm not flip flopping on red. I think he rage quit and is now a non issue. Certainly not worth wasting a lynch on. If he comes back I'd have no problem with hanging him.
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Actually, Jackal58 looks terrible. Those points I just mentioned, his weird defense of me (it was a meta-y defense and I don't think I looked anything like I usually do), saying that syllogism is a better lynch than me which is just crazy considering the information he had available. This post which is guilty of the same thing we're accusing BloodyC0bbler of, complaining about thread without providing an alternative direction.
The only thing that speaks in Jackal58's defense is that it's usually hard to distinguish his scum from his town play. I'm easily more willing to lynch Jackal58 today than redFF.
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redFF didn't ragequit, he said yesterday that he wouldn't have a lot of time to post today and said that he would claim early because of this. He was obviously quite pissed at the situation but that's somewhat understandable. That doesn't change the fact that you lynch scummy people and don't just count on them being modkilled. He could be replaced and stuff. You lynch people you think are likely to be scum, right?
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ok here's the deal. I really did not want to lynch BC and skipped his filter because I thought I'm not going to vote him anyways.
What do you guys think about BCs style this game?
Usually he's trying to look calm and talks to people no matter if they are vets or some new guys explaining his thoughts and what he's doing in a reasonable and polite/nice fashion. You might not agree with what he does when he's town like I did not agree with the mason topic being a good topic in L d1 but he's doing whatever he does for a reason.
This game however he does very little and what he does seems troublesome.
His last post:
On February 22 2012 10:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Why did I subject myself to read this fucking nonsense. Do I have to say this? Role does not equal alignment. Redff claiming his role in hopes to confirm his alignment is horseshit. In an unknown setup and him claiming that there may be multi target abilities the chances of mafia having a role to find said abilities is just as within reason as the town.
He then states that if he is roleblocked to lynch him, but says its not optimal to lynch claimed blues? Contradiction and sounds like hes just finding any reason to stay alive.
This level of play is so insanely bad that it makes me sad. He knows all this and yet still does the play to create a total shit fest of a thread and does not in anyway create a pro town environment.
As for syllo.
Get off my nuts. 5 hours is never enough information to actually commit to a read especially given my horrible ability to differentiate between bad play and bad scum. Find other straw men to go burn.
##vote redff
This game he's just not helpful at all. Looks like he's pissed a lot and while I do agree that you should not commit to a read after 5hours of a game I don't see a problem with posting them nevertheless. They're bound to change, noone is expecting someone to find 4/4 mafia after 5 hours yet it feels like he refuses to talk about his reads. The only issue I have with that is that I still think mafia-BC would not have a problem talking about reads when asked and does not need to dodge like that, therefore I thought that his explanation is maybe a little bit over the top but genuine nevertheless.
His first couple of posts are literally uselss. He agrees with Jackal that the shit that was going on between redFF and wbg is something that has to stop and yet goes on to talk to redFF like that as well. He has to know what kind of guy redFF is and what kind of reaction he'll probably get from redFF, still he keeps talking about this in a fashion that is just nothing like his helpful style I saw in L and GMs game.
and yeah that's basicly everything he did this game and he ended up picking the easiest lynch there is.
I still think the issues we got about redFF need to be discussed but there are obviously some things that are worrying and that's the reason I am calling redFF my backup-lynch rather than a normal lynch option.
If BC would be anyone else I'd instavote him right now. I am just honestly scared to be wrong because if I'm wrong on someone like redFF that's not as much of a deal. If I am wrong on BC we're in trouble not only because we lost BC but also because Mafia is very likely to doublestack people like that if they are town to get rid of them. Mislynching BC kind of gives mafia a couple of free KP on top of just mislynching imo. That's the big issue I have and again, if this would be anyone else I'd be all over him. That's why I want to hear more opinions about him.
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