Storm Mafia - Page 2

On February 23 2012 06:37 Palmar wrote:
Votecount

redFF: 7

RebirthOfLeGenD
Kitaman27
Wherebugsgo
chaoser
BloodyC0bbler
layabout
Blazinghand

BloodyC0bbler: 5

DoctorHelvetica
syllogism
risk.nuke
VisceraEyes
prplhz

Toadesstern: 1

redFF

Blazinghand: 4

Dirkzor
Tyrran
Jackal58
Toadesstern

Dirkzor: 1

Jitsu

On February 23 2012 06:40 Blazinghand wrote:
Also all you guys who think redFF shouldn't be lynched need to reconsider the split wagons between me and BC, just from a tactical perspective lol

On February 24 2012 05:32 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Dirkzor



[1]Unlike BH?



You called what chaoser did lying. Read the post before this one in Dirkzor's filter:


[2]You didn't call him flip flopping. You used a strong word, lying, then backed off later. I don't see what is scummy about Chaoser misreading something and then making a posting mistake because of it. That seems more town to me than anything unless he is doing some incredibly complicated roleplay where he pretends to be unaware of what's going on and play badly. I've known Chaoser to be inactive and absentminded as town before so I'm not really shocked or upset by this, I don't think anyone really should be.

[3]Dirkzor spent the remainder of his filter tunneling BH, who is probably the easiest lynch I've ever seen. He's acting like a really bad village idiot or some kind of serial killer who is just trolling to draw people out. He is definitely worth a DT or a Vig. Dirk can tunnel BH as hard as he wants and whatever BH flips doesn't matter. If he flips town everyone will agree that BH was playing really bad and would have gotten lynched or shot anyway. If he flips scum then Dirk gets some town cred. If he flips third party of some sort then Dirk gets a little bit of town cred. He can say "I was close, at least we got the SK out of the way now, it could have been worse it could have been town".

[4]Dirkzor plays very wishy washy and conservative until Kitaman27 calls him out for it.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=303505&user=193595

The posts in this filter in which he is a town blue come across as far more natural, reactive, and there is clear progress in his thoughts. He doesn't ignore anybody and is pretty talkative. His posts in the Storm Mafia filter come across to me as more jilted and planned? I'm surprised he didn't call BH out on his behavior a bit before, he seems like the kind of player to try and foster a good pro-town atmosphere which he hasn't done in this game at all.

Read Kitaman27's post on him for more analysis of his early game behavior:



These are fair points. I wish Kitaman was more active but I don't remember him having a strong presence in the last game where he was town. I agree with the things he is saying here, this is the sort of thing I'm used to seeing from RoL.

On February 24 2012 13:02 prplhz wrote:
You are kind kitaman27. Probably even too kind, I made plenty of bad reads/decisions in Responsibility Mafia! and I ended up claiming scum in XLVII after being figured out by wherebugsgo, syllogism, Palmar, possibly sandroba? and probably a bunch of other people I don't really remember.

I pushed BloodyC0bbler around the time I said that so it's not true when you say that I didn't provide an alternative. I just wanted to guys to know early on that I was most likely going to switch my vote to redFF if the alternative was a no-lynch so it wouldn't cause any unnecessary panic in case I would end up doing it.

Not getting lynched is first priority for me when the townie who was making the most sense until then suddenly suggests me for lynch, especially when I was painfully aware of how bad I looked. I also thought people would be more willing to change away from redFF than they ended up being.

I was hoping I'd get ignored (yea, you're probably going to jump on that word) until I had some more confidence in my reads. I did chime in to support syllogism who I found pretty town, who has good day1 reads and probably is one of the better players in this game, stacked as it is.

On February 24 2012 14:54 prplhz wrote:
Because I'm bad. I remember you pointed this exact same thing out in Responsibility Mafia! too. While the meta is available to everybody, not everybody has it readily available to them in their memory. You don't seriously expect everybody to go read everybody else's old games when they join a game? Only a few people do that. My point is that it's a pretty valid excuse "BloodyC0bbler looks scum, and I didn't have the meta that would allow me to see that he often just looks scum as town". I'm surprised not any more scum switched to him.

While you're right that the BloodyC0bbler train picked up more steam, I don't think syllogism is scum, I think DoctorHelvetica is actually putting a ton of effort into this game, I'm not very scum, VisceraEyes looks pretty town to me. That leaves risk.nuke and Blazinghand to get the votes to 6 which BloodyC0bbler had at his wagon's highest point, also making these two scum. I've already said they both look bad and I'd be up for lynching either of them today.

On February 25 2012 12:14 Jackal58 wrote:
Is this the Kaller game?

I'm hammered and will spend the rest of the evening embarrassing myself there. This game requires thought. That one not so much.

On February 26 2012 01:04 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

why, it wasn't factored into the vote at all

On February 27 2012 07:30 Toadesstern wrote:

he's not supposed to. It was rhetorical and I'm just saying it looks really strange that we have not a single suspicious guy flipping because of vigs.
At least both syllo and Jackal look like mafia work.