Kitaman27 -> 3rd party
BloodyCobbler -> Red/??
VisceraEyes -> ??
Layabout -> Red
Cwave -> Town
Toadesstern -> Town

Assuming Redff is town and got concealed at the flip.
@ Toadesstern: 2 people died most likely because of the poisoner thing. Poisener is a delayed kill right?

Toadesstern

Germany16350 Posts

March 07 2012 10:29 GMT

#2470

On March 07 2012 19:17 Cwave wrote:
Kitaman27 -> 3rd party
BloodyCobbler -> Red/??
VisceraEyes -> ??
Layabout -> Red
Cwave -> Town
Toadesstern -> Town

Assuming Redff is town and got concealed at the flip.
@ Toadesstern: 2 people died most likely because of the poisoner thing. Poisener is a delayed kill right?

Yeah but I thought the poisoner is a 1shot poisoner and he already used it n1. Guess it was a 2shot poisoner?

kitaman27

United States9245 Posts

March 07 2012 13:30 GMT

#2471

On March 07 2012 19:17 Cwave wrote:
Kitaman27 -> 3rd party

Right, trust the flipped scum. He can't possibly be lying.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

March 07 2012 18:31 GMT

#2472

I like how I call out (presumably) 3 scums on D1 and I only get a few "???"s. What's a guy gotta do to get some cred up in this piece?

Toad what makes you think the poisoner is 1-shot?

layabout

United Kingdom2600 Posts

March 07 2012 19:51 GMT

#2473

How can there be two operators?

Maybe scum can change a flip.

Toadesstern

Germany16350 Posts

March 07 2012 19:53 GMT

#2474

On March 08 2012 03:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
I like how I call out (presumably) 3 scums on D1 and I only get a few "???"s. What's a guy gotta do to get some cred up in this piece?

Toad what makes you think the poisoner is 1-shot?

the fact that we only had 2 kills on n2 so far and everything else was either 1 dead guy or none. However since we had 2 more dead people most recently that theory obviously is proven wrong and there is bound to be more than a 1-shot poisoner.
A poisoner is a delayed flip so that could still explain it although RoL is already dead. I doubt mafia has 2 KP + a 1-shot poisoner because that would mean we had HUGE saves, so 1KP + multi-shot poisoner seems to be reasonable.

kitaman27

United States9245 Posts

March 07 2012 19:54 GMT

#2475

On March 08 2012 04:51 layabout wrote:
How can there be two operators?

Maybe scum can change a flip.

Who do you think we should lynch today? What do you think about BC?

layabout

United Kingdom2600 Posts

March 07 2012 19:58 GMT

#2476

On March 08 2012 04:54 kitaman27 wrote:

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Who do you think we should lynch today? What do you think about BC?

Yo, check the voting thread.

kitaman27

United States9245 Posts

March 07 2012 20:00 GMT

#2477

No comment?

layabout

United Kingdom2600 Posts

March 07 2012 20:04 GMT

#2478

On March 07 2012 06:46 Toadesstern wrote:

Show nested quote +

On March 07 2012 05:13 layabout wrote:
EBWOP: who knew that " " " messed up spoilers?

Perhaps layabout is legitimately busy and does not wish to spend his reduced free time indulging in derp but cannot justify asking for a replacement so late into the game, when barely anybody is posting anyway.

On a related note I am going to sleep very soon so i will not be around at the deadline. I will claim my action in about 24 hours when i get home after visiting Bristol.

Toad, you are the only person in the game to make my eyes bleed.
+ Show Spoiler [avenger vig is weak if and only if you…] +

Since an "avenger vig" has to shoot into a list of players on a mislynch and since 4/18 players are mafia, and + Show Spoiler +

since there are typically 2-3 candidates with a chance of being lynched, after a townie is mislynched it is extremely likely that there will be 2-3 mafia/8 or so players on a lynch

the proportion of mafia on that lynch is likely to be higher than the proportion of mafia in the game, this avenger vig role seems to be a vig-shot with aim assist. Furthermore, by reducing the number of people you can aim at, a player with that role would be more inclined to look at and carefully analyse each potential target whereas a normal vig may be less inclined to perform in-depth analysis on every player they can shoot (which is everyone) before taking their shot. Your claimed role basically forces you to make a good shot, particular if you are not a player that puts a huge amount of effective time and effort into deciding their actions.

I have claimed my role and my actions. I had a plan and i executed it as best i could (despite it being blown to smithereens). I have explained my reasons behind my actions. I am not sure what more you want from me.

I think that there are things about my role-claim that you have not considered that it would be best for you to work out by yourselves.

Please think.
I think that there are things about my role-claim that you have not considered that it would be best for you to work out by yourselves.

Please think.

well guess what. IF I were a normal vig RoL would have flipped mafia n2.
Since I am not I was not allowed to shoot him before n3 making it (thanks to our suicide bomber) the only time I was able to shoot him because if I decided not to shoot that night I could not have shot at all because it would have been lylo and I would have needed a townie lynch.
You may whine all you want about how this "helps" people to aim but fact is I wanted to shoot a mafia n2 and was not allowed to because I had to wait another night resulting in shooting him n3 instead. Yes imo it IS a weaker vig because of both, the possible target requirements and the requirements to shoot in the first place.
How can you not agree with that? If you think avenger is more noob friendly with downsides that's fine with me but that's not what I was talking about so please stop derailing.

You so silly Toad.

layabout

United Kingdom2600 Posts

March 07 2012 20:13 GMT

#2479

On March 08 2012 05:00 kitaman27 wrote:
No comment?

Kitaman what do you think about Player X?

layabout

United Kingdom2600 Posts

March 07 2012 20:18 GMT

#2480

No comment?

Maybe i can draw a link between what i believe your alignment is and what i want players to believe his alignment is so that i can fullfil my 3rd party wincon, resulting in a town loss as i manage to keep myself alive, again, having claimed a DT role that has only investigated players that were awful DT target's and pushed my lynches with poor questions and poor logic.