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Been really busy today, but that's okay. Also had connectivity issues. I can only connect to quakenet from home, but not when I'm at school due to the education firewall. I live at residence, so I am on the school's internet monday night - friday morning so I will NOT be on quakenet at all. If I am on quakenet, I will be Uprising or Lanaia, and it WILL not happen during the week. If you guys need anything else, lemme know. I have some things to reread thus far. This game looks pretty cool. | ||
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if you want my skype, you'll have to PM me. | ||
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On February 13 2012 14:00 Blazinghand wrote: Oh uh if you're gonna be in like multiple channels, how do you stop someone from /whois ing you and like finding what other channels you're in? Can this be done with the webIRC client? This sounds a little suspect. However, there should be a function for making a channel private. Though, I don't know quakenet that well so I may be wrong. | ||
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On February 13 2012 14:00 Blazinghand wrote: Oh uh if you're gonna be in like multiple channels, how do you stop someone from /whois ing you and like finding what other channels you're in? Can this be done with the webIRC client? This kinda makes it feel like he's trying to make a scum channel. I mean, I don't see what you'd need to hide from everyone as town. Unless you're trying to make a PR circle, which I can't say I'd imagine would work well in this setup... Also, On February 13 2012 17:01 Blazinghand wrote: I'm gonna conserve you some time here and say ghost_403 is definitely scum if he can't figure out how to use some sort of chat program, irc, skype, something How the hell would that make him scum? Thus far, not liking mr blazinghand. | ||
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On February 13 2012 17:44 Blazinghand wrote: ah yes you're right a scum player without access to a scum QT would totally come into the main thread to coordinate with his scumteammates you are a very smart person I can't tell what part you're replying to. I don't know, just the way you phrased what you did really bothered me. Sarcastic insult noted. | ||
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How do you feel about paperscraps thus far? | ||
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On February 14 2012 03:11 SpiritClown wrote: I suspect prplhz has PMed some of you asking for your role... so who was asked by him? And who answered? If I remember correctly, he asked me in IRC and I didn't answer. I don't really see a need to reveal my role night zero/one/whatever we're calling it. Why do you suspect that? Because he asked you? I personally don't see why it's a huge deal. Saying "No." isn't hard. | ||
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All in one place: [18:53] <derpladee> r u scum? [18:53] <Lanaia> no sir [18:54] <derpladee> r u sure? [18:54] <Lanaia> yes [18:54] <Lanaia> god, homework sucks [18:58] <derpladee> yea [18:58] <derpladee> and parents just don't understand [18:59] <Lanaia> lol [19:02] <derpladee> you have any thoughts on the game? [19:02] <derpladee> what is your role? [19:02] <derpladee> you can PM it [19:02] <derpladee> because i don't want everybody else to know [19:02] <Lanaia> I don't want anyone to know yet. could be dangerous, you know [19:02] <Mattchew> lol really prp? [19:03] <derpladee> you can too Mattchew [19:03] <derpladee> i'm building a collection | ||
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 I'm not used to multiple scumteams. I guess a double lynch makes sense, but I'm not sure if three is good for us. One thing I've noticed that I really don't like that's been happening (aside from lurking) is the use of self-meta. It may have only been BH, but I personally say "this is kind of invalid now" to myself when I see someone talking about their meta. | ||
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On February 15 2012 06:11 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Sinani signed on just as I signed off, so I didn't see him personally do anything supsicious in IRC... so I can't do anything about that. I'll wait for him to post, if I feel he's being explicitly scummy I'll add a vote on him. I will say though that Lanaia and prplhz were pretty much united through the last IRC log. If one of them flips scum, I can almost guarantee that that's the wolfpack... and with Sinani being cloudy between that exchange and the time I signed on, I have him in my sights too. I just think it's silly that people think he's scum solely because of what he's done in regards to asking roles. It just seems a bit overboard, no? | ||
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You know why I'm going to vote mderg? To coerce him into talking, of course. mderg, how do you feel now? You're being voted. Everywhere, you've said nothing of substance. Everywhere, you haven't contributed. Get back in the game or my vote isn't moving. That's a promise. | ||
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On February 15 2012 22:40 mderg wrote: I don´t get why you voted for me with all the other lurkers here but that´s not important. Should I feel pressured now? I don´t, I feel exactly the same way as before. Your "pressuring" somehow doesn´t feel legit to me. Normally (at least from what I saw) you ask lurkers about their opinions on the game, something interesting that happened etc but you just said that I didn´t contribute. It makes it kinda hard to respond for me. I wanted to try a different approach. I suppose it wasn't good enough. Who is your single strongest scum read and why? | ||
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On February 16 2012 05:09 phagga wrote: My top 3 lynch candidates (in alphabetical order): Kenpachi Sinani206 Spiritclown Other suspicious ppl: zeurg: actively avoiding participation mderg: barely active, only posting excuses, no content I feel you're wrong about mderg. He's posted more than just excuses. I mean, sure, he's barely active, but he's definitely posted more than excuses, least in my opinion. On February 16 2012 03:43 mderg wrote: IMO there isn´t that much to read scum from but right now it would be Kenpachi. In 7 posts since the game started he said exactly nothing in 6 of them. The 7th post was an "attack" on you for calling me out. But directly after that he withdraws from attacking. Even I saw the intention of getting me to talk from you btw. So Kenpachi is my biggest suspicion right now because he didn´t say much (any) useful and when he posted "content" it wasn´t well reasoned and didn´t make much sense. This doesn't look like an excuse to me. also, in reply to mderg: Even I saw the intention of getting me to talk from you btw. Of course you did. On February 15 2012 14:58 Lanaia wrote: To coerce him into talking, of course. I mean, I did say it after all. | ||
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On February 16 2012 06:14 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I'm more zeurg-centric right now. I don't like either him or Spirit at this moment for lurking, but zeurg takes it to the next level and actively avoids conversation/discussion. It's plurality lynch anyway, so ##Vote: zeurg Also where do I see the votes? If there is somewhere please post a link in OP There's a vote thread. A ton of people haven't voted in there although they've voted in here. | ||
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On February 16 2012 06:41 Mattchew wrote: Lanaia you got mderg to talk how about now you contribute something that isn't related to counting people who have voted or setup based... Like an actual vote on someone you think is scum... For the amount of time you've spent in irc and hovering the thread you have very little content that you can put your name to... Posting this on iPhone during 5 min class break Mhm.... I'll be switching to sinani. He doesn't appear to be reading the thread as much as I'd hope. Considering this post: On February 15 2012 09:13 sinani206 wrote: townie lists are bad i honestly dont care if you think im scummy because no one else does Time of post: 9:13, 15th of February. We had a conversation in the IRC. [13:27] <phagga> the person you mean mentioned him first on the 15th, 0913KST. At that point at least me and Mattchew had brought Sinani up as possible scum [13:28] <phagga> in the thread. did not bother to check IRC logs, but I'm sure several others also mentionend him in here earlier As I'm writing this post, I'm checking the IRC logs. As people kept confusing nisani for sinani, here is what I found: [18:38:51] <Mattchew> phagga how do you feel about lynching mutliple people [18:41:15] <Mattchew> and if you could choose 3 right now who would they be [18:44:50] *** Joins: Uprising (green_guit@S010600085451c144.pi.shawcable.net) [18:45:08] <Blazinghand> Mattchew what about you [18:45:35] <Mattchew> I would kill nisani prphz and sentinal This appears to have been on the 13th. You wouldn't want to kill someone you thought was town. However, I rescanned the thread, and I found this: On February 14 2012 06:26 Mattchew wrote: Sinani206 2 games ago http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285690&user=128360 ACTIVE Outcome = Veteran: sinani206 last game outcome = Sinani206, Issisus the Pustulent, a Chaos Plaguebearer has been cast into the warp! This game (its almost been 24 hours since this post I believe, and still nothing) outcome = ?? Now, I'm not saying it's the best case ever, but sinani was still called scum here, posted on the 14th. If sinani isn't scum, I'm not sorry voting for him. Kind of feels like he doesn't want to play. Upon reading his contributions to the IRC, I found myself unimpressed, but unsurprised that I was unimpressed. I know he can do better than this. As such, I see no reason not to lynch him. Kenpachi, you need to calm down. | ||
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On February 16 2012 04:27 ghost_403 wrote: Things you have contributed in this post: 1) Either Mattchew is a townie or he isn't. 2) ... This is a contentless post that does nothing to help us find scum. If you don't want to be lynched, you should suggest a better lynch. There are two good lynches on day 1: people who are scum and people who contribute nothing to the town. I am not convinced you are the first, but you definitely fit the second. You've got a few hours left to change my mind. ##Vote: SpiritClown You also fit the second, hun. Just thought I'd let you know that. Upon reading your filter in the IRC... I can't say you've contributed much else. You've told me you haven't pm'd with anyone. So essentially, you have done nothing anywhere. Prod people, provide your own opinions, probe probulous, I don't care. Just please, do something more than what you've been doing before you accuse someone of doing basically the same thing you're doing. | ||
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Nothing is wrong with the double lynch. I'd willingly support it again. Will post at some point after class. | ||
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I think ghost went a wee bit overboard there. Why react so defensively when you were called scum without any actual reasoning? | ||
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He was overly defensive, overly reactive at prplhz even calling him scum. That's not all, but that's all I'm going to say right now as taxation has given me a migraine and thus I don't feel like looking through irc logs. | ||
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My vote remains. I'll try to say something more before work but I'm not 100% I'll be able to. | ||
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So it appears a bunch of stuff happened while I was at work. I very much agree about sentinel. I thought it yesterday and would have lynched him. So, here are my reads, ignoring our friend ghost. Grackaroni: I want to lean scum on him. Unfortunately, this is pretty much only gut. There’s nothing I can really pinpoint, but the entirety of him is rubbing me the wrong way. An issue I had was with him saying his biggest scum read was blue. I mean, sure, blue is scummy, but not worthy of the title of biggest scum read. On February 18 2012 13:29 Grackaroni wrote: Of course not. There's 2 scum teams and the idea of me and palmar being scum together is extremely unlikely. No way I could know if palmar is scum I just think his scum reads are pretty accurate and he seems less lazy compared to purgatory. Bluelightz could be scum don't understand his wrong in a townie way opinion. This post here feels very… suspect. It just feels like something's off with it. [UoN]Sentinel: Not really much I can say, other than his overreaction to the pressure has really sealed it for me. That was a MASSIVE OMGUS if I’ve ever seen one. On February 18 2012 10:14 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: The support to lynch me is gathering, so once again you post not only your intentions of lynching me, but also a weak justification to make it look like you're not a bandwagon. Everything you've said about me has already been said, Paperscraps. I’m sure it’s fairly difficult to make a case on someone who hasn’t been uber prominent without repeating what others have said. For now, I don’t think Palmar is scum, but I will never be sure. I know that I cannot read him worth a damn, so I don’t know. He’s definitely not high on my list. I do have other reads, they’re just not nearly as prominent. | ||
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I'm voting sentinel because I shouldn't've let you guys switch to spirit yesterday. Also because I think he's scum because of his overreaction to the case made on him. I don't care that it was horrible, I care how overboard he went. | ||
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On February 18 2012 14:04 Grackaroni wrote: It's just odd. You seemed defensive about Nisani earlier and as soon as I call him out you call me scum based off your gut and because I called somebody scummy my best scum read. It wasn't that. It was because of how you worded it. Also I don't know if he's omgusing you, nisani. did he even see that you'd done it before he called you scum? | ||
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On February 19 2012 00:58 Bluelightz wrote: wat ._. Is there a reason you didn't vote? Rgtheschworz: same question. I don't care who you are. It's important to vote and you should know it. | ||
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His excuse is silly, should have just voted someone, anyone. Sure, it's weird Palmar didn't die, but technically, couldn't scum be WIFOM'ing the fuck out of us all? He very well could be scum though. Unfortunately, I'm second-guessing myself in regards to who scum is. Gonna have to reread a couple times I think. I'm correct in thinking we shouldn't double lynch again, correct? As I stand right now, I want to lynch bluelightz, grack, and possibly froggynoddy, but that pends rereading. | ||
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On February 19 2012 14:18 ghost_403 wrote: It's ridiculous that rg has gotten away with not voting OR posting over the last game day. Lanaia is right, a double lynch is pretty bad for the town unless we are sure that both the lynches are scum. We can't afford to lose any more townies. At this point, even the ones not contributing are being useful in providing us with more time to hunt the scum. To everyone, sorry I've been gone all day. I will be available tomorrow on IRC for a few hours around 18:00 GMT (+00:00). Unless they're scum, though. I'd assume at least one of them is scum based on statistics. | ||
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So, here is what I think about people. First, we're going to write off the two people who might be modkilled for failure to vote today. These two people are bluelightz and rgtheschworz. The latter I have no real opinion of but I think we'd be better off without him if we could afford a potential mislynch as he only has 9 posts. blue I'm leaning scum on, but I have no meta on him. I really don't like that he was posting town/null lists and he had a terrible reason for not voting, which doesn't make him scum, but makes it annoying as hell to deal with. Also going to ignore myself because I wouldn't lynch myself because that's stupid. If either of the two I mentioned above actually vote before the end of the day, then I'll have to say something about them. So, starting in numerical order from the list in the beginning: 2. Palmar - I actually can't read him very well. I want to believe he's town, but Palmar has never really been someone i'm good at reading. He seems to be being typical Palmar. 8. Paperscraps- All I can say is that he seems to be fairly town. He hasn't acted in an anti-town manner at all. 9. Grackaroni - Scum, but all I have on him is gut. 11. ghost_403 - The only thing that got my vote off this guy yesterday was how he responded to pressure. I still think there's a high chance he's scum, but I'd prefer a lynch on mderg. 15. froggynoddy - Typical newbie. I see how he's been torn and I know I've been that way. He's probably town. 16. phagga - Based on my PM convos with him, what I've spoken with him in the IRC channel about, and what prplhz told me about him, I feel he's town and definitely not worth lynching today. 17. mderg - flipflopping a bit in IRC. ghost pointed it out to me. In regards to Palmar: <mderg> What do you think about Palmar still being alive? <Lanaia> I think it's a little weird <mderg> I don´t think he´s scum <Lanaia> Why's that <mderg> that´s more of a feeling... <Lanaia> okay <mderg> but I don´t think that Palmar is near to catching scum rigt now * ghost[around] is now known as ghost_403 <ghost_403> mderg, why did you do that <Lanaia> what did he do <ghost_403> an hour ago, he wanted to lynch palmar <ghost_403> and now he doesn't <mderg> not exactly right <ghost_403> [13:20:24] <mderg> I think we should either lynch him or players he doesn´t consider suspicious... Contradictory. I don't like this. His reasoning wasn't even really good for it. <mderg> I think that palmar was and is wrong with his reads in this game, so I think he has town reads on scum <mderg> that´s why he hasn´t been killed by now Sure, it's weird Palmar hasn't died, but... That doesn't necessarily make him scum. I'm voting mderg. ghost, I know you didn't want anyone to vote til blue said something, but whatever. NO ONE HAS VOTED YET. I'M VOTING. | ||
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GG everyone. I liked this setup. | ||
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