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Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
February 10 2012 15:39 GMT
#78
I'd like to /in if there's still room.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
February 13 2012 02:47 GMT
#147
/confirm
Been really busy today, but that's okay. Also had connectivity issues.
I can only connect to quakenet from home, but not when I'm at school due to the education firewall. I live at residence, so I am on the school's internet monday night - friday morning so I will NOT be on quakenet at all. If I am on quakenet, I will be Uprising or Lanaia, and it WILL not happen during the week. If you guys need anything else, lemme know. I have some things to reread thus far.

This game looks pretty cool.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
February 13 2012 03:25 GMT
#149
Oh, hey. Gonna try using the webchat client to see if that'll let me on through the education firewall.
if you want my skype, you'll have to PM me.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
February 13 2012 05:47 GMT
#155
On February 13 2012 14:00 Blazinghand wrote:
Oh uh if you're gonna be in like multiple channels, how do you stop someone from /whois ing you and like finding what other channels you're in? Can this be done with the webIRC client?


This sounds a little suspect. However, there should be a function for making a channel private. Though, I don't know quakenet that well so I may be wrong.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
February 13 2012 08:28 GMT
#162
So, a couple things I don't like so far, all involving blazinghand.

On February 13 2012 14:00 Blazinghand wrote:
Oh uh if you're gonna be in like multiple channels, how do you stop someone from /whois ing you and like finding what other channels you're in? Can this be done with the webIRC client?

This kinda makes it feel like he's trying to make a scum channel. I mean, I don't see what you'd need to hide from everyone as town. Unless you're trying to make a PR circle, which I can't say I'd imagine would work well in this setup...

Also,
On February 13 2012 17:01 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 13:33 Kenpachi wrote:
On February 13 2012 12:46 ghost_403 wrote:
Great, looks like I have to learn to use IRC. :/

its not much to learn.
/join #WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT
thats all you need


I'm gonna conserve you some time here and say ghost_403 is definitely scum if he can't figure out how to use some sort of chat program, irc, skype, something


How the hell would that make him scum?

Thus far, not liking mr blazinghand.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
February 13 2012 08:47 GMT
#165
On February 13 2012 17:44 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 17:28 Lanaia wrote:
So, a couple things I don't like so far, all involving blazinghand.

On February 13 2012 14:00 Blazinghand wrote:
Oh uh if you're gonna be in like multiple channels, how do you stop someone from /whois ing you and like finding what other channels you're in? Can this be done with the webIRC client?

This kinda makes it feel like he's trying to make a scum channel. I mean, I don't see what you'd need to hide from everyone as town. Unless you're trying to make a PR circle, which I can't say I'd imagine would work well in this setup...

Also,
On February 13 2012 17:01 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 13 2012 13:33 Kenpachi wrote:
On February 13 2012 12:46 ghost_403 wrote:
Great, looks like I have to learn to use IRC. :/

its not much to learn.
/join #WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT
thats all you need


I'm gonna conserve you some time here and say ghost_403 is definitely scum if he can't figure out how to use some sort of chat program, irc, skype, something


How the hell would that make him scum?

Thus far, not liking mr blazinghand.


ah yes you're right a scum player without access to a scum QT would totally come into the main thread to coordinate with his scumteammates you are a very smart person


I can't tell what part you're replying to.
I don't know, just the way you phrased what you did really bothered me.
Sarcastic insult noted.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
February 13 2012 08:51 GMT
#168
Palmar, is there a reason you want sinani dead?

How do you feel about paperscraps thus far?
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
February 13 2012 18:57 GMT
#206
On February 14 2012 03:11 SpiritClown wrote:
I suspect prplhz has PMed some of you asking for your role... so who was asked by him? And who answered?


If I remember correctly, he asked me in IRC and I didn't answer. I don't really see a need to reveal my role night zero/one/whatever we're calling it.
Why do you suspect that? Because he asked you?

I personally don't see why it's a huge deal. Saying "No." isn't hard.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
February 13 2012 21:53 GMT
#233
The logs of his asking me are here. He kinda just dropped it.
All in one place:
[18:53] <derpladee> r u scum?
[18:53] <Lanaia> no sir
[18:54] <derpladee> r u sure?
[18:54] <Lanaia> yes
[18:54] <Lanaia> god, homework sucks
[18:58] <derpladee> yea
[18:58] <derpladee> and parents just don't understand
[18:59] <Lanaia> lol
[19:02] <derpladee> you have any thoughts on the game?
[19:02] <derpladee> what is your role?
[19:02] <derpladee> you can PM it
[19:02] <derpladee> because i don't want everybody else to know
[19:02] <Lanaia> I don't want anyone to know yet. could be dangerous, you know
[19:02] <Mattchew> lol really prp?
[19:03] <derpladee> you can too Mattchew
[19:03] <derpladee> i'm building a collection
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
February 14 2012 04:57 GMT
#264
I take back what I said about not being able to get on quakenet at school. Webchat seems to work fine.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
February 14 2012 15:24 GMT
#279
Would have been here last night if the post had been 10 minutes earlier.

I'm not used to multiple scumteams. I guess a double lynch makes sense, but I'm not sure if three is good for us.

One thing I've noticed that I really don't like that's been happening (aside from lurking) is the use of self-meta. It may have only been BH, but I personally say "this is kind of invalid now" to myself when I see someone talking about their meta.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
February 14 2012 21:52 GMT
#293
On February 15 2012 06:11 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Sinani signed on just as I signed off, so I didn't see him personally do anything supsicious in IRC... so I can't do anything about that. I'll wait for him to post, if I feel he's being explicitly scummy I'll add a vote on him.

I will say though that Lanaia and prplhz were pretty much united through the last IRC log. If one of them flips scum, I can almost guarantee that that's the wolfpack... and with Sinani being cloudy between that exchange and the time I signed on, I have him in my sights too.


I just think it's silly that people think he's scum solely because of what he's done in regards to asking roles. It just seems a bit overboard, no?
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
February 15 2012 05:58 GMT
#316
Well, fellas, I'm going to vote mderg.
You know why I'm going to vote mderg?

To coerce him into talking, of course.

mderg, how do you feel now? You're being voted.

Everywhere, you've said nothing of substance.
Everywhere, you haven't contributed. Get back in the game or my vote isn't moving. That's a promise.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
February 15 2012 16:12 GMT
#333
On February 15 2012 22:40 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 14:58 Lanaia wrote:
Well, fellas, I'm going to vote mderg.
You know why I'm going to vote mderg?

To coerce him into talking, of course.

mderg, how do you feel now? You're being voted.

Everywhere, you've said nothing of substance.
Everywhere, you haven't contributed. Get back in the game or my vote isn't moving. That's a promise.

I don´t get why you voted for me with all the other lurkers here but that´s not important.

Should I feel pressured now? I don´t, I feel exactly the same way as before. Your "pressuring" somehow doesn´t feel legit to me. Normally (at least from what I saw) you ask lurkers about their opinions on the game, something interesting that happened etc but you just said that I didn´t contribute. It makes it kinda hard to respond for me.



I wanted to try a different approach. I suppose it wasn't good enough.
Who is your single strongest scum read and why?
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
February 15 2012 21:14 GMT
#352
On February 16 2012 05:09 phagga wrote:
My top 3 lynch candidates (in alphabetical order):

Kenpachi
Sinani206
Spiritclown

Other suspicious ppl:
zeurg: actively avoiding participation
mderg: barely active, only posting excuses, no content


I feel you're wrong about mderg. He's posted more than just excuses. I mean, sure, he's barely active, but he's definitely posted more than excuses, least in my opinion.

On February 16 2012 03:43 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 01:12 Lanaia wrote:
On February 15 2012 22:40 mderg wrote:
On February 15 2012 14:58 Lanaia wrote:
Well, fellas, I'm going to vote mderg.
You know why I'm going to vote mderg?

To coerce him into talking, of course.

mderg, how do you feel now? You're being voted.

Everywhere, you've said nothing of substance.
Everywhere, you haven't contributed. Get back in the game or my vote isn't moving. That's a promise.

I don´t get why you voted for me with all the other lurkers here but that´s not important.

Should I feel pressured now? I don´t, I feel exactly the same way as before. Your "pressuring" somehow doesn´t feel legit to me. Normally (at least from what I saw) you ask lurkers about their opinions on the game, something interesting that happened etc but you just said that I didn´t contribute. It makes it kinda hard to respond for me.



I wanted to try a different approach. I suppose it wasn't good enough.
Who is your single strongest scum read and why?

IMO there isn´t that much to read scum from but right now it would be Kenpachi. In 7 posts since the game started he said exactly nothing in 6 of them. The 7th post was an "attack" on you for calling me out. But directly after that he withdraws from attacking.
Even I saw the intention of getting me to talk from you btw.
So Kenpachi is my biggest suspicion right now because he didn´t say much (any) useful and when he posted "content" it wasn´t well reasoned and didn´t make much sense.


This doesn't look like an excuse to me.

also, in reply to mderg:
Even I saw the intention of getting me to talk from you btw.
Of course you did.

On February 15 2012 14:58 Lanaia wrote:
To coerce him into talking, of course.


I mean, I did say it after all.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
February 15 2012 21:20 GMT
#354
On February 16 2012 06:14 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I'm more zeurg-centric right now. I don't like either him or Spirit at this moment for lurking, but zeurg takes it to the next level and actively avoids conversation/discussion.

It's plurality lynch anyway, so ##Vote: zeurg

Also where do I see the votes? If there is somewhere please post a link in OP


There's a vote thread.
A ton of people haven't voted in there although they've voted in here.


<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
February 15 2012 22:40 GMT
#370
On February 16 2012 06:41 Mattchew wrote:
Lanaia you got mderg to talk how about now you contribute something that isn't related to counting people who have voted or setup based... Like an actual vote on someone you think is scum... For the amount of time you've spent in irc and hovering the thread you have very little content that you can put your name to... Posting this on iPhone during 5 min class break


Mhm....

I'll be switching to sinani.
He doesn't appear to be reading the thread as much as I'd hope.
Considering this post:

On February 15 2012 09:13 sinani206 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 09:13 Bluelightz wrote:
I feel like I'm Instant delurking but :/

Anyway,

Townie List:
Palmar
Probulous
Mattchew
prplhz

Scummy:
Sinani - Not a lot of contributions


townie lists are bad

i honestly dont care if you think im scummy because no one else does


Time of post: 9:13, 15th of February.

We had a conversation in the IRC.
[13:27] <phagga> the person you mean mentioned him first on the 15th, 0913KST. At that point at least me and Mattchew had brought Sinani up as possible scum
[13:28] <phagga> in the thread. did not bother to check IRC logs, but I'm sure several others also mentionend him in here earlier


As I'm writing this post, I'm checking the IRC logs. As people kept confusing nisani for sinani, here is what I found:
[18:38:51] <Mattchew> phagga how do you feel about lynching mutliple people
[18:41:15] <Mattchew> and if you could choose 3 right now who would they be
[18:44:50] *** Joins: Uprising (green_guit@S010600085451c144.pi.shawcable.net)
[18:45:08] <Blazinghand> Mattchew what about you
[18:45:35] <Mattchew> I would kill nisani prphz and sentinal

This appears to have been on the 13th. You wouldn't want to kill someone you thought was town.

However, I rescanned the thread, and I found this:
On February 14 2012 06:26 Mattchew wrote:
Sinani206

2 games ago
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285690&user=128360
ACTIVE
Outcome = Veteran: sinani206


last game
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2012 15:27 sinani206 wrote:
hi guys; just saw my role pm going to bed now, gnight

outcome = Sinani206, Issisus the Pustulent, a Chaos Plaguebearer has been cast into the warp!


This game
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 10:29 sinani206 wrote:
why do i always check tl an hour before the game starts and then not until 10 hours later...
going out to dinner now so be back in a few hours

(its almost been 24 hours since this post I believe, and still nothing)
outcome = ??


Now, I'm not saying it's the best case ever, but sinani was still called scum here, posted on the 14th.
If sinani isn't scum, I'm not sorry voting for him.
Kind of feels like he doesn't want to play.
Upon reading his contributions to the IRC, I found myself unimpressed, but unsurprised that I was unimpressed.
I know he can do better than this. As such, I see no reason not to lynch him.


Kenpachi, you need to calm down.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
February 15 2012 23:19 GMT
#374
On February 16 2012 04:27 ghost_403 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 04:12 SpiritClown wrote:

To mattchew
[...]


Saying I'm not scum or say I'm town it's very different... yeah -.-

And I'm not afraid to post my opinions... honestly about you I think either u are scum and are just trying to make me lynch using my errors to save a shot or either u are a towny trying to find me scum and make other people lynch me. Probably the second one i would think but i'm not sure... something about your behaviour and animosity it's making me think u might be scum, but that might be because you're attacking me

And saying I'm town in a MP it's the obvious thing to do... saying "i won't say to you" or say "i'm town" it's the same thing because everyone would say that.




Things you have contributed in this post:

1) Either Mattchew is a townie or he isn't.
2) ...

This is a contentless post that does nothing to help us find scum. If you don't want to be lynched, you should suggest a better lynch.

There are two good lynches on day 1: people who are scum and people who contribute nothing to the town. I am not convinced you are the first, but you definitely fit the second. You've got a few hours left to change my mind.

##Vote: SpiritClown


You also fit the second, hun. Just thought I'd let you know that.
Upon reading your filter in the IRC... I can't say you've contributed much else.
You've told me you haven't pm'd with anyone. So essentially, you have done nothing anywhere.

Prod people, provide your own opinions, probe probulous, I don't care. Just please, do something more than what you've been doing before you accuse someone of doing basically the same thing you're doing.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
February 16 2012 17:55 GMT
#447
Agree with palmar completely in regards to modkills.

Nothing is wrong with the double lynch. I'd willingly support it again.
Will post at some point after class.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
February 16 2012 19:22 GMT
#450
I've seen scum actually claim scum before, but I really don't think it means anything. Avoiding that part of what he's said, froggynoddy, why else do you think he's scum?
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
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