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On January 29 2012 03:03 Vilonis wrote: /in as a newbie  I'm so excited to play mafia. I simply don't have the will power to wait for the next Newbie Mini Mafia to start playing. Only newbies on the player list so far so don't worry! I hope you have fun and stick around | ||
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On January 29 2012 08:26 sinani206 wrote: HEY IVE PLAYED 17 GAMES. SEVEN FUCKING TEEN BRO UMAD? YOU KILLED MY COMMAND CENTER | ||
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/IN I'm in another game so if anybody else wants my spot that's fine by me. | ||
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Anyway, I'm really excited as always | ||
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Why did you drop "Surprisingly" from this game series name? Anyway, since this is a semi-open setup with very normal roles, I don't think it makes sense to discuss plans. I can't even think of one, but I'm horrible at plans anyway. This means a ton of behavioral analysis which is going to be nice, I could use the training alright. Oh yea, and I'll be trying to play kind of how I did in Responsibility Mafia! if you want to read another one of my games. Going to try to keep the good things (shooting wherebugsgo in the face/groin and defenestrating him) and throw away some of the bad things (calling out for BloodyC0bbler's lynch). Hello. My name is prplhz. You killed my command center. Prepare to die. ##Vote: sinani206 | ||
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##Vote: Sinensis He's talking about no-lynching and he's making stupid lists. Rest is fluff. I think we found ourselves a scum here and I guess sinani206 will have to wait. | ||
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##Unvote: sinani206 ##Vote: Sinensis | ||
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I don't think that sinani206, Nisani201 and I should be treated any differently from the rest of you. We may have played a lot of games but I doubt any of us would argue that we're too awesome at this game. We don't go around ravishing scum teams on a regular basis at all. What you should expect of us is that we will act logical and coherent, but you should expect this from anybody in this game. @sinani206 Do you truly believe any of that nonsense you just posted about me? | ||
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##Unvote: Sinensis ##Vote: Timeasis Since lynch is tonight everybody should vote Timeasis so we can lynch scum. | ||
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On February 04 2012 02:36 TheToast wrote: I highly doubt that Timeaisis is scum. First is the fact that he is a first time Mafia, GM is not the kind of host that would put a first time player on scumteam. Very quick way for the game to be over. No. Do you really want me to argue against this? First, this is purely speculation since you don't know if GMarshal balanced the game or not. Second, there are tons of first gamers in this game (mderg, Vilonis, BaronFel, Sinensis, Timeasis) you don't think any of those can be scum? Third, these games tend to be town favored, if he stacked either side he would probably be stacking town but again, this is purely speculation. On February 04 2012 02:36 TheToast wrote: His vote against Vilonis also tips me off that he is townie, Mafia would not want to draw extra attention to themselves like that. First time Mafia also tend to want to lurk to avoid causing any suspecion. Also his current vote is on Sentinel. Most of us seem to be in agreement that there is a good chance Sentinel is scum, a view I hope you would support since that's who you have voted. Mafia (epsecially first time Mafia) are not going to jump onto the bandwagon of one of their own. His analysis is not very good. Going with the flow does not indicate scummyness, actually probably the oposite. First of all, this is all WIFOM and speculation, you don't know how Timeasis plays scum. Also, it is plain wrong, Timeasis didn't try to stick out at all in my opinion, he didn't push any lynches or post anyooks kinda like you're depsperately tryithing controversial. You also say that Mafia tend to lurk, while you said here that you don't think sinani206 is scum, because scum don't lurk. Seems like you're just making stuff up on the fly. On February 04 2012 02:36 TheToast wrote: Focus on the people we have good analysis against so far; Sentinel and Bluelightz. Whoever the third person is, I am willing to bet they are more of a Vet. There are a few people who have so far been playing too perfectly, I don't want to call anyone out yet before we have good evidence as I don't want to risk a townie getting bandwagoned. But there are a few people we need to focus on to get more information from. Take a look, I think you will see the people I am talking about. Can you link me that good analysis against [UoN]Sentinel and against Bluelightz? I saw a pretty bad analysis on Bluelightz accompanied by a pretty bad push where you say that you'll vote [UoN]Sentinel anyway. We're lynching Timeasis today. As for the no-lynch v. lynch discussion, I will always prefer lynch over no lynch, unless we're lynching a confirmed town. This is alignment independent for me and we can discuss it post game if you want to. But I never said that, I say that we should lynch Timeasis because he is scum, not because I prefer lynching "someone" over no-one so you're kinda putting words in my mouth now aren't you? Why does my bizarre behavior early on make me scum? Didn't you also just say in your defense of Timeasis that scum don't generally try to attract attention to themselves early on. It seems to me like you're making stuff up on the fly to fit with whatever you've decided to believe. You should stop this. | ||
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@sinani206 I thought you wanted to use this game to get back into mafia, then why are you clearly not putting a lot of effort into this game? First your terrible post on me and now this, one of them is scum because they are voting for each other? That's pretty stupid, townies in that situation will most likely just vote for whoever else is up for lynch to save themselves (and so would scum). You are voting for [UoN]Sentinel, because he has gone quiet in the face of votes, what about the analysis on Timeasis? Why don't you agree with it? Did you read any of their filters? Seems like you don't care too much who gets lynched. Is this what we should expect from you all game? | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel only has Hammer Mini Mafia on this forum yet and since we both participated in that game and he's still alive I'm not going to talk about it. @Sinensis Yea, I joke-voted in the beginning of the game but does this make me more scummy or more townie? It doesn't mean anything, and it doesn't really matter what you think about me anyway, the Timeasis lynch isn't good or bad depending on my alignment but on the arguments presented in this thread. As for my vote on you, you were the most scummy at that point. Yes you were, you promoted chaos and silly stuff and I wanted the game going so I voted you. I wasn't very confident that you were scum so I didn't push you hard but I wanted people to start talking about the lynch and I actually think I successfully shifted the discussion away from silly policies and plans and unto who we should lynch which is what day1 should be about especially in a game like this where there can be no plans and where policies should be self evident. I haven't had the time I usually have for this game because I was in another game (Hammer Mini Mafia). I am dead in that game now and you can expect more from me now (as you can already see). I did indirectly respond to your FOS when I wrote the post saying that my early posts were just to get the game started. I understand that it must have been traumatic of you to have had 4 votes on you but you need to get over it. What do you mean with that last thing, that there are three people you are suspicious of and they're defending each other? Names and examples please because I don't think I understand. @TheToast You don't feel like responding to my complaint that you're using the same arguments for me being scum as for Timeasis being town? Since we are lynching either Timeasis or [UoN]Sentinel tonight people need to start voting for one of these. | ||
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... right GMarshal/redFF? | ||
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On February 04 2012 06:20 TheToast wrote: Nope. I've made my points clear and I think some of your posts speak for themselves. No point in responding to you further, you are just going to turn them back on me with absurd arguments to further muddy the waters. I'm unsure where you have gotten this assumption that one of the two is getting lynched. This smells like scummy railroading. If you want to lynch Timeasis, you are going to need my vote, which you are not going to get. Bluelightz earlier defense of Sentinel made it pretty clear he wouldn't be voting for him. So if you want to lynch Sentinel, you are going to need both Vilonis and BaronFel to switch over. It seems unlikely to me that you are going to get BaronFel given how much of a lurker he's been. In that likely situation, you are again going to need my vote. Unless someone can come up with some really convincing arguments or analysis against Sentinel in the next few hours I'm not sure you will be voting for him either. I'd prefer to lynch day 1, but I would rather see a no lynch instead of a townie lynched. The fact that we are being forced into picking from Sentinel or Timeasis when prplhz and bluelightz are oozing scummy-ness (something to which several people in this thread have agreed to) has me pretty worried. Why don't you want to point out the logical fallacies I am making that makes me scum? Why is "you are using the same arguments for me being scum as for Timeaisis being town" an "absurd argument"? I think it that logic is so sound that you can't in any way refute it and that's why you don't want to address it. Do you really suspect that there can be a third candidate today? Then why aren't you pushing Bluelightz any harder? I'm wanting people to consolidate because it's friday and it's a game where people haven't been extremely active which makes me think that it's hard to get people to actually switch to a third candidate which makes me think that trying to switch to a third candidate will just lead to a no-lynch which I don't really want. Guys, up until now EchelonTee and I have pointed out several flaws in Timeaisis' play, which makes him scummy, and in TheToast's defense of him, which makes it invalid. Okay my take on the [UoN]Sentinel lynch. First Nisani201 voted him off the shabbiest analysis ever, "He was the second person voting for somebody else, thus he is scum.". I mean seriously what the fuck? Guy didn't post ever since. Next time something happens is this post: On February 03 2012 06:16 mderg wrote: Did I understand it right that the day 1 lynch isn´t as important to you as other lynches? This can give scum a good opportunity to vote without proper reason... and that´s not what we want. Also I don´t like how you just assume there´s a Vigilante and a Hedonist in this game. The setup is semi-open, so we can´t be sure about that. Especially "knowing" about a Hedonist in the game indicates that you might be scum... a town player shouldn´t know that. These are minor aspects off your play and don´t mean you´re scum, but right now you´re my top suspect. Along with the easily following the votes on Sinensis it justifies a vote from me. ##Vote: [UoN]Sentinel This vote is based on [UoN]Sentinel thinking that there might be a vigilante and a hedonist in this game. Scum don't know blues and do you really think that [UoN]Sentinel would make a scum slip like that? I have never ever seen a scum slip like that, like anything, scum slips are pretty much a myth perpetuated by scum because they give scum an allegedly semi-legitimate reason to vote for somebody. They don't exist and I have in 20 games never seen anybody do a real scum slip. This is not saying that mzerg is chaos by the way, he might just have been sucked in by the myth. Additionally he says that he actually doesn't think that [UoN]Sentinel is scum, he's just his biggest suspicion. Now give me the case on [UoN]Sentinel because this "scumslip" into bandwagon is plain stupid. Tons of people voting because of emotions like EchelonTee correctly pointed out (I like that guy), you vote on arguments not because I voted you and now I'm not voting [UoN]Sentinel. You guys need to read the thread and vote with your brain and not with your guts. EchelonTee made an excellent case, read it and tell me why it's worse than that case mzerg just made. You can't because it isn't. | ||
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Screw what you think about me or [UoN]Sentinel voting for you, read mderg's case on [UoN]Sentinel and then read EchelonTee's case on Timeaisis. Can you tell me with a straight face that you truly believe that mderg's case on [UoN]Sentinel is better than EchenlonTee's case on Timeaisis? Then why are you still voting for [UoN]Sentinel? That goes for everybody by the way You can never say anything about somebody's alignment based on what somebody else is doing. Just because TheToast has posted a terrible defense of Timeaisis doesn't mean that Timeaisis is chaos. Might mean that TheToast is chaos but it doesn't tell me anything about Timeaisis. | ||
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On February 04 2012 07:24 Sinensis wrote: Timeaisis made his first post on TL in this mafia forum. First game first post, obviously he's new. You believe the dungeon master put him in a scum role? I don't. I think you're defending Sentinel, like I said you would, just like Bluelightz did, because you're scum too and so is Bluelightz. It is really hard for me to argue with that first argument because it's so terrible that if you can't see how terrible it is right now, then you maybe never be able to see it. First something we can both agree on: The number of posts you have does not make you better or worse at mafia. Second: Just because you have played a lot of mafia doesn't necessarily make you better at mafia. Your argument is purely speculation, you haven't looked into old games with similar setup that GMarshal has hosted have you? I haven't looked through all of those I posted earlier but I remember my very first game on this forum, which was hosted by the very GMarshal and had a similar theme. Here's the rolelist. Three scum, all first gamers. They won the game as you can see. Now you are also speculating that [UoN]Sentinel is scum because I am defending him. This is again bad logic. Say that you think that I am scum, I could be defending [UoN]Sentinel because he is scum and I don't want him to die, or I could be defending him because he is town and I want to buy town credit with him or in case it looks like he's getting lynched, town credit with the surviving town. Both are possible so my alignment tells you absolutely nothing about [UoN]Sentinel's alignment. What does tell you something about my alignment are my arguments. If I have bad arguments then I have no reason as townie to be defending [UoN]Sentinel in the first place, which makes me either wrong or scum. Which is why you need to look at the arguments and not go about speculating like that. Your case has absolutely no merits and you should really look at it and realize this very soon and switch to Timeaisis. | ||
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Maybe this will work, even though I doubt it ... Are the teams balanced or are they RNG'd? | ||
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You are voting [UoN]Sentinel not because of anybody else's analysis but because of your own. Your own analysis consists of pointing out that he bandwagon'd you, a reference to mderg's analysis (which he himself doesn't even think is sufficient), and him having to go to swimming practice but promising to be back later. This is in no way convincing. Don't you think that town has ever been second on a vote train? mderg wrote in his original analysis that he didn't think [UoN]Sentinel was worth a lynch, only that he was top suspect, and he's just now retracted his vote. [UoN]Sentinel has been open and active in this thread, he's responded to criticism already and doesn't seem like he's hiding anything, everything points at him actually just having swimming practice and he'll actually be back later to answer more questions. Timaisis on the other hand at first reacted to an accusation with posts like this. Not very open. Do you think that Timaisis reacted in a more townie way to pressure than [UoN]Sentinel? I don't think you're scum by the way, I never really did. I'm arguing with you because you're here and because your vote is in the wrong place. @Timeaisis mderg has the best case on [UoN]Sentinel in the whole thread? What other cases are there? And funny how the author of the best case in the thread on somebody isn't even convinced himself, huh? Doesn't matter really, any person in your situation would push for the other guy's lynch. @mderg Do you want a no-lynch? Do you think that Timeaisis is town? @Bluelightz Timeaisis or [UoN]Sentinel? | ||
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Switch to Timeaisis. [UoN]Sentinel is a fucking horrible lynch and if you gathered any skill at all over your SEVEN FUCKING TEEN games then you should know this. | ||
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I already explained my "turn around of character", you can read my filter from Reponsibility Mafia! where I act weird in the beginning of the game too. There's nothing wrong with changing your character as long as you have a reason for the things you do, which I have had in this game, and explained. It's perfectly normal of you to be uneasy with me because I derped around in the beginning though, which was the biggest backside of my attempt to kickstart discussion. Look at Palmar in XLVIII where he fake claims dayvig on day1 and loses all town credit for the rest of the game even though he's not only right but he's also known as being very persuasive. Also, as long as I'm making sense you should really think I'm town, which means do not push for my lynch. But as for all people you think are town (and all other people too), you should keep an eye (or both) on them. No one is confirmed until they flip. @Bluelightz I'm not saying he's 100%, I'm saying he's our best bid and I want a lynch today. I'm not really impressed by those 5 words. Look at how he reacted to the initial accusations in an offended resigning way like he knew he was already dead. It was only after TheToast started defending him that he actually started trusting in himself which is not how I think that newbie town would react. They mostly just play their newbie card even more in my experience. All game long he's been trying not to step on anybodies' toes while still keeping as many options open as possible and he's still managed to contradict himself as shown in EchelonTee's analysis. A last minute vote switch is always a bit creepy but whatever. @Sinensis Good luck rofl. | ||
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On February 04 2012 09:44 BaronFel wrote: Yeah, I'm keeping my eye on everyone. I'm just not a fan of first rounds where everyone has to go by gut feelings or super small signs that may just be nothing, unless someone acts really off when suspicion is on them. Yea it sucks but if you think about it, nothing really changes in the following days. Imagine day2 where one of us has flipped town, does that make him more right? No it doesn't, being dead doesn't make you right. The only thing that changes is that you can trust the dead guys' gut reads, but how can you be sure that their guts are right? You can't. This is why no-flip games can still work. In a no-flip game every day is essentially day1 (more or less) and they can still be won by town. Pretty sure they're generally considered more difficult to win for town than flip games though, but you get my point. @TheToast I'm hoping we get really lucky too! Day1 is always unreliable as hell, best thing you can do is hit a guy who doesn't make sense and who looks like he's scum and ideally who's not very active. | ||
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Has vote on [UoN]Sentinel Makes a shallow observation of arguable correctness indicating that Timeaisis might be innocent Proceeds to vote Bluelightz Never provides arguments or comments on cases | ||
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You showed in the beginning that you could make a plan for the game that was actually not half bad (first decide on whether to lynch, then proceed to the lynch), so I know that you're not as derpy as you're acting right now. Get on with the game, you're not helping anyone like this and that is ultimately scummy. | ||
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Pretty much, Timeaisis was the most logical case there was. Student Mafia was on 27 pages at day1 lynch, dunno why this is so much slower. BaronFel and Vilonis and sinani206 and Nisani201 all need to post more. | ||
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I'll respond to your accusations a bit later. | ||
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NO MORE KILLING MY COMMAND CENTER | ||
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Unless another vigilante claims to have shot tonight I am confirmed town. If another vigilante claims, then you can start handling that situation. Right now no other vigilante has claimed and you should proceed as if no other vigilante has claimed, in which case I am confirmed town. You are right now voting for someone who is confirmed town. This is not ideal. It's not really important why Vilonis was targeted, you can ask scum about this after the game. You need to realize that this is not a game with obvious factions. Just because three people has the same agenda doesn't mean that they're scum. Scum are hiding among us and it's very rare that scum all band up together to get something done, even to save one of their own. Instead they try to blend in while trying to keep good things going for them. Imagine if I hadn't shot sinani206, then we'd spent this day yelling at each other. Imagine if I had gotten lynched, then I would have flipped vigilante and then scum would have gone for you probably and secured a third mislynch. All that didn't happen. Instead we're going to find another scum and lynch him. | ||
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Why do you insist that people ask you for an explanation every time you do something before you give it to them? | ||
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Since there are already several people on his back and there have been multiple analytic posts about him, I think it looks like he's a likely candidate for the lynch today but you are totally disregarding him while thinking you can just post a Big FoS with a shallow observation. Is [UoN]Sentinel more likely to be scum than Bluelightz? | ||
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You're currently on the chopping block and you don't seem to care very much. I doubt that defense will convince anybody here of anything. Do I really have to ask who you think should be lynched if not you? | ||
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I'm considering if I should push your lynch just for all the stupid shit you've said, from "I will now treat you as confirmed town because you helped in my defense" to "the confirmed townie thinks I'm townie so I'm clearly townie". One premise is a misconception, the other is plain wrong, and the conclusions cannot even be arrived at from the premises. I don't recall you saying anything remotely this stupid in Hammer Mini Mafia, why are you doing it this game? | ||
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Everybody is responsible for making their own innocence apparent to everybody else. This is primarily done through activity and transparency. You guys are not doing this in a sufficient degree and it's making me pretty upset. | ||
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If you don't think there's enough content in the thread to analyse then generate something. List of people who have done just about nothing so far day2: TheToast BaronFel | ||
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Imagine we decide to lynch Bluelightz and he flips town. Then what? | ||
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Why I said that Bluelightz isn't the scummiest around? So that you guys will not just go "Meh, Lets just lynch Bluelightz". There are two scum left and this is a terrible town environment for doing scum hunting. Also, it is true, I don't think Bluelightz is the scummiest around. I didn't have as much time day1 as I did night1 because I was still alive in Hammer Mini Mafia, or I would have had more time to read the game and push sinani206 for killing my command center. The time I had available was drained by arguing in favor of the best day1 lynch there was. During night1 I realized that I had to shoot to confirm my innocence or day2 (and likely day3) would be a huge mess and scum probably would end up winning. And then I shot sinani206 because he killed my command center. I also faintly remember one of his carriers injuring some of my marines. The biggest reason for posting in any mafia thread for anyone at any point in any game is to make their own innocence readily apparent to everybody else. I don't have to do that because I'm confirmed town so I don't post as much as I did before, or in the same way. Since I'm obviously in touch with this game, scum is going to feel a lot more pressured if I say "Bluelightz aside, I have a good idea who is scum, you guys should try to find him too, then you can confirm your innocence to everybody else too" than if I say "Yea, lets just lynch Bluelightz", especially if Bluelightz is actually town. Because I'm confirmed town I have the right to be a lot less transparent because the reason for transparency in the first place is to convince everybody else of your innocence and I don't have to do that because I'm confirmed town. I'll still try to promote a good town environment though by trying to get you guys to do something other than just tunneling the same guy and posting fluff. If this comes off as "he thinks he's the best player in the world" to you, then cool. That's kinda what I was trying to come off as to scum. Whether or not I truly believe in it is irrelevant to this game. | ||
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Sinensis, well first thing I noticed was this post: On February 05 2012 13:24 Sinensis wrote: ##Vote: prplhz BAAWW I DIDN'T SPEND ENOUGH TIME EXPLAINING MY VOTE. Cry me a fucking river scum. I've suspected this joker since his first post. Look at how pissed off he is. He is really angry here. I bet when the rest of you saw the day post you expected to see a green, maybe a blue guy who had been offed by scum. But I think it was to everybody's surprise when there was also a red guy there. I would expect every townie to act a little surprised and also be happy about it but Sinensis is so pissed off here right after the day post. I think emotion is hard to fake for scum, it is easy to constantly remind yourself "I am town, I am town, I am town" but to also FEEL like townies feel must be impossible. I think he was pissed because one of his buddies was killed. I also think he's a lot better than how he plays, he's displayed some ability at logic but then he refused to realize that I was confirmed town even when it was very obvious. He tried to explain it away after mderg explained it to him, but I don't think that's good enough. | ||
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I think his play looks a lot like Purgatory, and he's been posting lists in both games. That's not very important though because it's quite easy to think "I need to post lists because that's what I do as town". Very easy to fake, it's more his overall behavior. I don't like your "even if he is town, he is useless and we lose a useless townie", but if you insist on using it then it can probably be applied to Sinensis too. What he said was very easy to fake. You'll also notice that he actually played a game before in which he was scum so he should definitely know stuff like that. Also he could read the OP and know stuff like that. His behavior in this game is easy to just classify as "newbie" but that doesn't mean he's not scum and when I read his filter it comes off to me more as "terrorist" anyway. "Too scummy to be scum"? Look at sinani206's filter. People thought sinani206 wasn't contributing because sinani206 was town and he was "waiting for day2" or something crazy like that. Isn't that the most ludicrous argument ever? You lynch scummy people, you don't just WIFOM yourself into thinking "Well, scummy people needs to appear townie, and townie people aren't afraid to appear scummy so lets lynch people who appear townie and leave people who appear scummy.". That's plain crazy. You guys need to start voting for Sinensis now. | ||
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Sinensis defense right now is that he said in the beginning of the game that scum can't talk to each other. I'm giving you unwifomable evidence: townies don't get all pissed off when scum unexpectedly dies. Sinensis got pissed off. Sinensis has done nothing this game but pus scum agenda and push his newbie act to the limit. I'm pretty sure Bluelightz isn't scum and I'm pretty sure that Sinensis is scum. If you think I'm less likely to be right because I think I'm right then I haven't a clue. | ||
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I'm going to push him tomorrow. | ||
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Did any of the rest of you back down because they trust in confirmed townies and because they think I'm a good scumhunter? (I DID kill a scum night1, that's not too bad you know) Kinda looks like you're making this shit up. Anyway, I'm decided. I'm pushing you tomorrow. | ||
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On February 08 2012 07:15 TheToast wrote: What? Don't you think if Nisani were scum that he would have been voting on the town lynching bandwagon with you both days? Don't you think Nisani would have wanted to kill Time and Sinesis? Idk what to make of this, unless this is just a CYA thing because you are afraid of getting shot tonight. With this kind of logic we can also exclude sinani206 from being scum. That's how bad it is. I doubt Nisani201 thinks I'm a better scum hunter than he is for real, I've played like 3 games with him and I sucked in all of them. Like, get-lynched-day2-as-townie-with-having-a-single-correct-scum-read-sucked in the last one I remember. Anyway, he's pushed his own lynches in games with scum hunters who are way better than I am, he's pretty confident in his own reads, as townies often are. You're an over-the-top example of that in a "I'm townie, thus I'm right, thus every argument I use must be right" kind of way so you should be able to see the validity of my argument. I have no idea what "CYA thing" means but it's probably stupid and unimportant. I'm kinda hoping I get shot tonight but scum probably aren't that merciful. | ||
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@BaronFel What is this? On February 05 2012 14:52 BaronFel wrote: [...] If you want my opinion, I was looking at prplhz after the time vote, but he was pretty logical and caught on to sinani so I have no real reason not to believe he isn't the vig. [...] That makes no sense at all. You believe I'm the vig because I shot sinani201? That's some backwards logic right there. I have no idea what to make of that. | ||
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@Nisan201 Why don't you make any sense at all? Things you've said that do not make sense in my brain: 1: prplhz is a good scumhunter. I doubt you believe this because it's not true. I'm like maybe mid gold league and I've never played well in any game you've been in and I've never seen you in any observer QT. 2: You have not been vocal or decided to have any thread presence because 1, yet you don't really act like you truly believe 1. You didn't support me in ANYTHING this whole game. I would actually have pushed you day2 but I thought it would be weird to shoot sinani206 and then push Nisani201. No idea where I got this idea from. 3: You only ever do anything when called out. Your cases on BaronFel and [UoN]Sentinel are like, meh, you could have pushed those at any point in this game because they took you maybe 2 minutes to write up. I've seen you do a lot better but in this game you don't seem to really give a damn. And can't you at least make up some bullshit reason for not giving us sinani201? He was so obvious and you've played with him more and know him better than anybody else here. I had to read through of his games (I didn't count SEVEN FUCKING TEEN by the way) night1 but you were in all those, why didn't you give us sinani201? | ||
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On February 09 2012 22:38 BaronFel wrote: @prplhz By itself it may not be suspicious, but the night before his name was being said a lot, and then today he seems really jumpy put the focus on to others rather then defending himself. That just makes him more suspicious to me. Perhaps its the wrong feeling to have but that's just my take on it. If the act in itself may not be suspicious, what made you more suspicious of him? Can you get more text-wally, maybe write a bigger post on him, and I don't necessarily mean post-by-post-analysis, but try to make this "feeling", this "take on it" that you have more understandable to other townies. What is your take on the night hits so far? Vilonis night1, mderg night2, why didn't they hit TheToast or EchelonTee or you or me? How do you think TheToast and EchelonTee has acted today? What is your "feeling" and "take" on them? | ||
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What parts made you think it was good? If his case on [UoN]Sentinel is pretty good.................... ......... ................ ......... ..................... . ...... ................. then why aren't you voting for [UoN]Sentinel? | ||
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I can't take this kind of crap any longer, sorry. ##Vote: Bluelightz | ||
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We could lynch BaronFel. | ||
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Just tell me what you think and why. Don't quote somebody's entire filter and point out something shallow and conclude that he's scum/town/whatever fits your plan. | ||
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He isn't defending [UoN]Sentinel. Then he would be yelling and screaming and telling everybody else to get their votes off him. He is saying "I don't think he's scum" with no analysis at all. This is what scum do so they don't have to vote for townies. He is saying it for town credit. Isn't that infinitely obvious to anyone? What do you mean either "worst scum" or "confirmed townie"? That doesn't make any sense at all, and furthermore, you're not concluding anything right now and it's 30 mins before deadline on a day where nobody is around. Don't you see how ludicrous this is? What do you know about the "history of mafia"? How many games did you play and where? | ||
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and then your reply is asking a question I am answering in that very same part meanwhile ignoring everything else and still not concluding anything no votes or anything 20 mins before deadline when we're facing no lynch which is great for scum because then we have to go through a shitty day like this TWICE MORE | ||
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DO YOU REALLY WANT TO GO THROUGH ANOTHER DAY LIKE THIS??????????????? | ||
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HAS THIS BEEN A GOOD DAY THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO REPEAT??? | ||
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HAAHHAHAHAHAHAH AHA H AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH | ||
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THIS IS SO SO SO SO BAD THIS IS THE WORST THING I HAVE EVER SEEN HAPPEN ON THIS FORUM | ||
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I'm not going to be silent today and hope town gets anything going because that went pretty badly yesterday. Since we're at LYLO we need to lynch scum, duh. Lets lynch Nisani201 and BaronFel. Lets start with BaronFel. If no one disagrees, can we make this INSTANT extended majority lynch? @[UoN]Sentinel I can't believe you wanted to protect TheToast over me. But anyway, me and TheToast and possibly EchelonTee were the only options so it's not too shabby, but next time you should protect me in a similar situation. And I would have tried to stop your lynch (and succeeded) right after Nisani201's analysis if you hadn't been straight up admitting to "dicking around". I just couldn't make myself speak up for a guy who was just "dicking around". You protect offensively tonight by the way, but not BaronFel. There are no more vigilantes so the only hit you can block is the scum hit and if you do that we can lynch Nisani201, BaronFel and Bluelightz and I'm pretty sure last two scum are among them. But you're probably going to get hit tonight so, whatever, but if you can block the hit then we're in a great position. If there is another vigilante he should shoot BaronFel. | ||
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I'm still not reading your posts. | ||
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If you have a role now is the time to claim it. | ||
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Should be lynch Bluelightz instead? I'm really at a loss here. | ||
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Nisani201 tomorrow and then we win. | ||
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Question is: "Would BaronFel have made a case on Nisani201 yesterday if they're both scum?" But none of this is relevant for Nisani201's alignment. Can't trust anything scum do to others and let them WIFOM you into doing anything you wouldn't have done otherwise. Can only trust it to determine BaronFel's alignment because he's the one doing it, and that case looked off considering how BaronFel has acted all game. Dunno, TheToast could be scum for all the less-than-ideally-enlightened things he's said throughout this game, but he's just too crazy so I don't think so. If he's scum he can never ever play like this again, and I don't mind losing to a guy pulling off a one-time stunt like that. If he's town I hope he never plays like this again anyway. You could be scum but I doubt that, even though you were given an ideal opportunity to very easily look good this game. Bluelightz looks almost exactly like he did in Purgatory, except a little more busy I just made up that shiz up to bait some reaction. Dunno if it was a good idea but meh, there was lots of time to the flip and I'm always kinda insecure about these things, more content is always good.Nisani201 probably scum as I've said multiple times before. So it doesn't really matter who dies tonight, Nisani201 dies tomorrow. | ||
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Made me think you were town so that's a good think but it also made me want to pull my hair out and throw my laptop out the window. I'm sure you can relate. | ||
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I'm stealing your reply-with-red-numbers style EchelonTee. It's pretty nice. | ||
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On February 14 2012 15:07 TheToast wrote: You have that many PMs huh? Since what you mostly do is play Mafia, I think you pretty much just admitted to being scum in one of the games you currently have going. Also...... I have no idea which way to vote today. Not sure it matters since you only need a majority of 3 I believe. I'm very dissatisfied with how you are actively inferring things about my alignment, publicly, for a game that you are not in. | ||
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I really wanted to win this game. | ||
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Then there are other people on this forum, like sinani206, who should be killed night1 if they don't get lynched day1. + Show Spoiler + JUST KIDDING, RELAX ... what I'm saying is that sinani206 usually plays in a way that gets him lynched early on because he's hyper-vocal and he doesn't take shit from anybody and maybe some would say that he's kinda difficult to work with. Makes him a very easy to lynch but he doesn't give a shit because AMERICA. Also, he's way too smart to think my joke-vote was for real and he used it to fish for empathy when I think he'd usually be all "WHAT THE FUCK YOU ARE TERRIBLE AT THIS GAME JOKE VOTES ARE FOR MORONS ##VOTE PRPLHZ". He was waaay too meek and he was fine being out of the spot light and that's something that townies shouldn't be (and something that I've never seen sinani206 be). I think you had a good day1 but after that it went down hill. You acted so confused and pressured for the rest of the game (especially day3) but there were better targets around I felt. I was really totally convinced that Nisani201 was the last scum. I think this town overall has a lot to learn, myself included. We were in a great position after night1 but we didn't manage to take advantage of that situation too well. I played like I had set out to from the beginning of the game but it didn't work as well as I had hoped for and I'll see if I can adjust that for my future games GG everybody. And yes, day3 was fucking horrible. That was the worst day of mafia I have ever played. | ||
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This game isn't just about having a correct list of scum on day1, it's about winning. If you want to win you can't just be good at finding scum, you also need to be good at getting them lynched, and TheToast had a hard time getting anybody lynched primarily because he was annoying, spammy, and chaotic. I think TheToast was second best townie in this game (after me, yea) but how he was incessantly on my back was also part of the reason EchelonTee was so successful in buddying with me. There simply wasn't an alternative supporter in this town because TheToast spent the entire game yelling at me and nobody else seemed to care too much about the game. I'm not blaming TheToast for anything, I should have been able to win this game from the position I was able to put myself in, but going around saying "lol, i knew scum team, the other guys just didn't listen" isn't going to make anybody any better at this game and that would be sad. Ultimately, I enjoyed playing with TheToast because he was the only townie besides me who I think really cared about this game. Even though he got on my nerves so fucking bad I wanted to replace out more than a few times. I wrote my opinion on EchelonTee right after the BaronFel lynch, he looked town but mostly because everybody else made that very easy. Some other townies didn't really care about this game, some were just dicking around, some intentionally spent a big portion of the game trying to get on my bad side. In hindsight, I see that EchelonTee was the last scum and hopefully I learned from it and will not be making a similar mistake again in a future game. | ||
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I don't think the town environment was all too bad, there was some inactivity and there were people with null/town lists, there were people who didn't care about the game, there were people who spent the entire game fighting against me instead of trying to debate with me, there was how I just took charge of everything after night1 which made people feel less encouraged to do original work, but overall it was alright. Look at the other minis, this game was decent in activity and analysis so it absolutely wasn't bad. I think the mafia shots were absolutely alright although you should have picked up on the "final defense" thing (so should I). I really wanted to speak up for [UoN]Sentinel on day3 (as this post shows) but I couldn't make myself do it when he had straight up admitted to being "dicking around". Meh, don't ever do that again. Dick around or admit to it. There's nothing people who are taking this game seriously hates more than people not taking it seriously at all. Anyway, your shots were good in my opinion since you were planning on buddying with me and there could have been a medic prevent them. Shooting lurkers and buddying with active townies and shooting active townies while hiding among lurkers are both decent I think. Maybe you should have shot Bluelightz and [UoN]Sentinel first because first gamers can be really hard to read for town. | ||
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