Normal Mini Mafia I

On February 02 2012 18:09 Bluelightz wrote:
Sup guys got my role PM anyway,

Here's my take on roles

1 Of the vets(Sinani/prplhz) is SCUM(Not sure about this tho if GM wants to screw with us
3/3 Chaos Followers Remain
?/1 Chaos Cultist(s)
?/1 Chaos Fatespinner(s)
?/1 Chaos Plaguebearer(s)
?/0 Chaos Hedonist(s)

9/9 Imperial Forces Remain
?/5/6 Imperial Guardsmen
?/1?Imperial Priest(s)
?/1? Imperial Psyker(s)
?/1?Imperial Stormtrooper(s)
?/1? Imperial Commissar(s)
?/1/2? Tainted By Chaos

DISREGARD ANY CLAIMS BESIDES THE TOWN ROLES ABOVE.


Also, note to everyone if we have a dt please breadcrumb your results so if you die we can find them

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Never, NEVER, I repeat never NO LYNCH D1

Anyways to who I think is possibly a traitor among us,



##Vote: Sinensis

No one, should decide who to lynch, people themselves should decide who to vote.

Also: Fluff "I think we should kill first night, I think we should kill first night again"

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VOTING

How many mislynches till LYLO( including mafia kills, but not delay)

not including possible vig kills/dt checks/medic heals/vet hits

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Voting Strat:

~Never, never never EVER RNG Lynch(Though there is that 25% chance >.<)

~We should always lynch d1 because without the first lynch we will lack lots of information without it.

~LA-Lurkers, If we don't find a lynch candidate I'm fine with lynching a lurker

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Lurkers:

Lurkers HURT TOWN, if you are lurking STOP IT.

I will not tolerate lurkers, in Mini Mafia's with not a lot of people Lurkers hurt real bad.

Lurkers, hurt town how?

~Less Information

~Less possibilities for lynching

~Possibly a vote lost to town, because most lurkers sheep.

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Closing words:

I will tolerate lurkers for the first 24 hours because not all players are awake/have acces to the computer to post.

On February 02 2012 19:14 Bluelightz wrote:
Hmm, I meant that we should never be like

__ Votes him! lets vote him too!

like he did in III (that I was scum in, we lynched the two veterans for a flawless victory ezpz).

... I clearly addressed and refuted his every point.

Also, due to the nature of this Chaos infestation, neither side can distinguish friendlies.


Day 1 in a unique time because no one not you, me, or the Chaos scum knows who anyone else is yet.

On February 04 2012 06:24 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
prp answered your question to me, I've played and am still alive in Hammer which is soon to finish, and this, and that's my whole record

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Anyways, I'd like to make a personal request. I'm at 5 votes, if I get 6 and you want to be the seventh, please extend it for another 4 hours or so, so I can make one last defense when I get back. In other words don't kill me just yet, just post a reason why and put FoS on me or something, and I'll address as much as I can when I get back.

And for once, I agree with Timeaisis:

On February 04 2012 07:26 prplhz wrote:
@Sinensis

Screw what you think about me or [UoN]Sentinel voting for you, read mderg's case on [UoN]Sentinel and then read EchelonTee's case on Timeaisis. Can you tell me with a straight face that you truly believe that mderg's case on [UoN]Sentinel is better than EchenlonTee's case on Timeaisis? Then why are you still voting for [UoN]Sentinel?

That goes for everybody by the way

You can never say anything about somebody's alignment based on what somebody else is doing. Just because TheToast has posted a terrible defense of Timeaisis doesn't mean that Timeaisis is chaos. Might mean that TheToast is chaos but it doesn't tell me anything about Timeaisis.

On February 04 2012 07:43 prplhz wrote:

It is really hard for me to argue with that first argument because it's so terrible that if you can't see how terrible it is right now, then you maybe never be able to see it. First something we can both agree on: The number of posts you have does not make you better or worse at mafia. Second: Just because you have played a lot of mafia doesn't necessarily make you better at mafia.

Your argument is purely speculation, you haven't looked into old games with similar setup that GMarshal has hosted have you? I haven't looked through all of those I posted earlier but I remember my very first game on this forum, which was hosted by the very GMarshal and had a similar theme. Here's the rolelist. Three scum, all first gamers. They won the game as you can see.

Now you are also speculating that [UoN]Sentinel is scum because I am defending him. This is again bad logic. Say that you think that I am scum, I could be defending [UoN]Sentinel because he is scum and I don't want him to die, or I could be defending him because he is town and I want to buy town credit with him or in case it looks like he's getting lynched, town credit with the surviving town. Both are possible so my alignment tells you absolutely nothing about [UoN]Sentinel's alignment. What does tell you something about my alignment are my arguments. If I have bad arguments then I have no reason as townie to be defending [UoN]Sentinel in the first place, which makes me either wrong or scum.

Which is why you need to look at the arguments and not go about speculating like that. Your case has absolutely no merits and you should really look at it and realize this very soon and switch to Timeaisis.

On February 04 2012 07:56 prplhz wrote:
Okay, what do you think about my refutation of your argument that Timeaisis isn't scum because GMarshal wouldn't put first gamers on the scum team?

Maybe this will work, even though I doubt it ...

Are the teams balanced or are they RNG'd?

On February 04 2012 09:39 prplhz wrote:
@BaronFel

I already explained my "turn around of character", you can read my filter from Reponsibility Mafia! where I act weird in the beginning of the game too. There's nothing wrong with changing your character as long as you have a reason for the things you do, which I have had in this game, and explained. It's perfectly normal of you to be uneasy with me because I derped around in the beginning though, which was the biggest backside of my attempt to kickstart discussion. Look at Palmar in XLVIII where he fake claims dayvig on day1 and loses all town credit for the rest of the game even though he's not only right but he's also known as being very persuasive.

Also, as long as I'm making sense you should really think I'm town, which means do not push for my lynch. But as for all people you think are town (and all other people too), you should keep an eye (or both) on them. No one is confirmed until they flip.

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@Bluelightz I'm not saying he's 100%, I'm saying he's our best bid and I want a lynch today. I'm not really impressed by those 5 words. Look at how he reacted to the initial accusations in an offended resigning way like he knew he was already dead. It was only after TheToast started defending him that he actually started trusting in himself which is not how I think that newbie town would react. They mostly just play their newbie card even more in my experience. All game long he's been trying not to step on anybodies' toes while still keeping as many options open as possible and he's still managed to contradict himself as shown in EchelonTee's analysis.

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A last minute vote switch is always a bit creepy but whatever.

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@Sinensis Good luck rofl.

On February 04 2012 11:27 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:


That's not very nice!

On February 04 2012 11:30 sinani206 wrote:
Timeaisis bandwagon was way too fast-forming to be legitimate.
##Unvote: [UoN]Sentinel
##Vote: Bluelightz

On February 04 2012 11:40 prplhz wrote:
sinani206:

Has vote on [UoN]Sentinel
Makes a shallow observation of arguable correctness indicating that Timeaisis might be innocent
Proceeds to vote Bluelightz
Never provides arguments or comments on cases

On February 05 2012 13:37 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
##Vote: Sinensis

Voting for this idiot.

On February 06 2012 03:24 mderg wrote:

No one counterclaimed.

On February 05 2012 14:52 BaronFel wrote:
Sorry for lurking bluelightz, I was really busy today I'll try to post more.

If you want my opinion, I was looking at prplhz after the time vote, but he was pretty logical and caught on to sinani so I have no real reason not to believe he isn't the vig.

I don't have a real big opinion on you, and it seems you don't either if you're just accusing me of lurking

Senensis as I said in day 1 seems to just be hampering the town and I really don't think he'll ever really try to help us find the rest of the scum...(I could overlook his day 1, but day 2 it's almost like he's trying to do this on purpose. If there was a joker in this game, I'd assume he was it xD)

##Vote: Sinensis

On February 06 2012 22:20 Bluelightz wrote:
Also

##FoS:Sinensis

&

##Unvote: Sinensis

I guess, I'm gonna wait out on people's opinion of this before voting, also Sinensis with the time you have please contribute more ty

On February 04 2012 11:55 Sinensis wrote:
If I'm a townie (And TheToast is a townie, which I think he is) then with the information we have I'm in a unique position to be able verify Timeaisis's innocence based on voting patterns.

I don't know what you think you're talking about. Maybe you can start a bandwagon lynch on me later just like you did with Timeaisis? I don't get it.

On February 04 2012 04:06 prplhz wrote:
EchelonTee is making a lot of sense. TheToast isn't.

##Unvote: Sinensis
##Vote: Timeasis

Since lynch is tonight everybody should vote Timeasis so we can lynch scum.

On February 04 2012 09:15 sinani206 wrote:
OK, I don't think you people understand.
Get your fucking votes on Sentinel or Timeasis.
We can't risk a NL on Day 1.
In case you don't understand,


THIS MEANS YOU:
Bluelightz
Vilonis
TheToast
BaronFel
mderg

Also @prplhz:
lol

On February 07 2012 07:27 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
prplhz just said "lynch timeaisis"

It wasn't until 50 minutes later that sinani brought out this gem:

On February 04 2012 06:00 prplhz wrote:
@EchelonTee

[UoN]Sentinel only has Hammer Mini Mafia on this forum yet and since we both participated in that game and he's still alive I'm not going to talk about it.

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@Sinensis

Yea, I joke-voted in the beginning of the game but does this make me more scummy or more townie? It doesn't mean anything, and it doesn't really matter what you think about me anyway, the Timeasis lynch isn't good or bad depending on my alignment but on the arguments presented in this thread. As for my vote on you, you were the most scummy at that point. Yes you were, you promoted chaos and silly stuff and I wanted the game going so I voted you. I wasn't very confident that you were scum so I didn't push you hard but I wanted people to start talking about the lynch and I actually think I successfully shifted the discussion away from silly policies and plans and unto who we should lynch which is what day1 should be about especially in a game like this where there can be no plans and where policies should be self evident.

I haven't had the time I usually have for this game because I was in another game (Hammer Mini Mafia). I am dead in that game now and you can expect more from me now (as you can already see). I did indirectly respond to your FOS when I wrote the post saying that my early posts were just to get the game started. I understand that it must have been traumatic of you to have had 4 votes on you but you need to get over it.

What do you mean with that last thing, that there are three people you are suspicious of and they're defending each other? Names and examples please because I don't think I understand.

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@TheToast You don't feel like responding to my complaint that you're using the same arguments for me being scum as for Timeasis being town?

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Since we are lynching either Timeasis or [UoN]Sentinel tonight people need to start voting for one of these.