On February 13 2012 03:33 Kurumi wrote: Laya IS lying. He would be dead if hosts overlooked his hit. God damnit. Also they weren't around when laya said "I just got pm" Bullshit.
On February 11 2012 07:27 jaybrundage wrote: IF catwomen doesnt kill you, you are not twoface. I think your scum because of your constant lying and
He's a vet.
He then tells the thread that Rg is a vet. Which would make sense given that CatWomen has an unblockable shot except for vets
That means that Rg is a Vet, and cant be a Detective. Why he is keeping up the bullshit about DT? I dont know pretty anti town in my opinion
But I think it makes the most sense. Given this information i think we should completely ignore his DT checks cause there bullshit. Kurimi had to agree with the Harley Quinn guess it was a guess.
On February 12 2012 23:05 rgTheSchworz wrote: HopingI won t be wrong Kurumi. Damn you, you are Harley Quinn. Please confirm.
So RG is a Vet not a DT and not two face if he was twoface he would be dead. I hope we can move foward as town and from now on Ignore his DT checks because there complete bullshit.
This Does mean as well tho that he is town. : ( Given that i will have to reread the filters to find someone else i think is scummy D:
BTW RG i still think your anti town as fuck. Just not scum
On February 13 2012 05:43 Jayjay54 wrote: alright, I'll be hitting the gym. For now I'll vote nuke. Looking at his filter, he is the most scummiest lurker alongside hiro. Much more scummy than evantrees IMO.
vote: risk.nuke
feel free to step up nuke, my unvote is freely available. Right now, you give me little reason to do so. Same goes for hiro. Without martyring please.
sup. obv-scum much?
OMGUS much?
what did you contribute? I even said in that post that you can my unvote pretty easily. Not with an OMGUS, but an actual contribution.
On February 13 2012 22:32 Toadesstern wrote: I'm the village idiot right now. What do you guys think of shooting into people I thought will probably turn out town instead of shooting scummy lurker? That's bound to deliver mafia isn't it? On a more serious note: I'm considering voting palmar, kita or risk.nuke atm.
of those 3 kita is the best option but they are all inferior to tyrran or evantrees.
On February 13 2012 23:21 Toadesstern wrote: ok here's the deal. There's no way that all 4 of you guys: Palmar, Rad, Kita and forumite will flip red. Especially since wbg flipped red yesterday I highly doubt that. More like 1 of those 1 red (which is already a lot with wbg since everyone says he's so good as mafia), 1 or 2 end up being third party and whatever is leftover is town. Ironically I don't want to lynch forumite anymore.
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It´s possible that Palmar tells the truth about Radfield, and we are choosing between Scum and 3rd Party, but Radfields DT claim D2 would have been an odd gamble. I´m leaning towards lynching Palmar, and have someone check Radfield. I´m not sure how Radfield would flip and I´m almost certain Palmar is 3rd Party, and it feels like killing the possibly usefull Batman is preferable to mislynching a Town DT.
I do not think that Palmar is scum. I do not think that Radfield is scum
Either way I think the lynch should be between Palmar or Radfield.
All of this crap is another reason that we should be killing Palmar.
People who looked most suspicious from day 1 vote: At this moment in time evantrees is leading the vote.
Tyrran stands a similar chance of flipping scum to evantrees. There are the candidates that are likeliest to flip scum, (but they could be town).
It has been (sort of) agreed that rg's night action should shed some light on his own and on chaoser's alignment.
BM has claimed medic and i would be willing to say that he is far likelier town than other candidates.
Other People that it has been suggested we lynch: Kitaman27: stands an excelllent chance of flipping scum. I was waiting for him to come back and post but he doesn't seem to care. He does not wish to respond to my case in full as he promised he would do last night should he survive. My only resevation about killing Kitaman is that if Kurumi is, in fact Harley Quinn, then the case against Kitaman27 is weaker.
On February 12 2012 13:00 kitaman27 wrote: Layabout, I'll respond to some of your posts if I survive the night.
liar.
Jaybrundage: Is perhaps the epitome of "posts to look like he is contributing without actually contributing". He has been lurking heavily all game and he displays no pro-town motives.
Forumite: Has yet to put effort into helping town find lynch targets. All his posts are about peripheral issues and he has not made himself useful whatsoever. He has undermined town objectives all game long.
I think he has an "unorthodox approach" to playing as town
and as such i am struggling to understand his motives. In the first two days he looked green to me. Since there are so many better scum candidates lynching him would be a horrendous move.
hiro protagonist: You could quite easily argue his alignment either way. He shows up every now and then. He calls most of us you stupid, not so subtly tells us to kill him and leaves. If he is your strongest scumread at this point in the game then you clearly haven't been looking for scum.
Ico/Razerflash: I felt that ico looked green. I think razer looks a little red. My concern is that those who are placing suspicion on him are not doing it wholeheartedly. I felt that Kitaman27's early case was laughable. When i saw this quote:
On February 08 2012 03:47 ico wrote: Sheth: I really can't read his behaviour so far. It is scummy, but he isn't the only one posting pointless rabble. For now he got the benefit of the doubt.
in kitaman's "in case i die post" i was suspicious. But when looked at in context (clicky) He says that he think's cyber cheese is a better candidate and votes for him. He may have been hedging which is scummy but i think that the quote by itself is misleading and makes ico appear scummier than he did. Who was misleading us? Kitaman, (+chaoser who has sheeped without sharing his reasons)
JayJay: I may be somewhat biased when commenting on Jayjay because he has made various comments in which he has taken liberties with logic. I do not like JayJay's posts. He assumes things he shouldn't and if i had a gun i would have shot him night 1. He often talks about subjects that do not further town's goals. But he has made some posts that indicate he cares about town winning the game. And tha is more than can be said for far too many of you. So we shouldn't lynch him today/
The Radfield/ Palmar debacle: We have next to no reason to not beleive radfield at this point. We have every reason to not trust Palmar.
If Radfield is telling the truth. Palmar is confirmed "not-town" (or possibly the "worst townie ever" + Show Spoiler +
Could town really play worse than claiming 3/4 power roles and lying all the time?+ Show Spoiler +
the answer is probably yes but Palmar is still playing really badly if he is town
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What if Rafield isn't calendar man?
Radfield's actions do make some sense if he is scum, so if Palmar were to flip DT then Radfield would make an excellent lynch.
What then if Radfield is scum ?
Palmar will flip 3rd party and we will have lynched a player that intended to kill 1 or two town blues and that was heavily trashing up the thread. We will not have killed a townie.
OR
Palmar will flip as a VT that you should never play in a game with again, or a dt that you should never play in a game with again. If he flips one of the roles he has claimed then we could possibly use that information.
If Palmar flips town (he will not) then we are in a better position to evaluate Radfield's alignment. But if Palmar was calendar man then will will know that radfield is "not town"
OR radfield was bussing another teammate for town cred, which is fine.
What if Rafield is 3rd Party?
Palmar will flip 3rd party and we will have lynched a player that intended to kill 1 or two town blues and that was heavily trashing up the thread. We will not have killed a townie.
OR
Palmar will flip as a VT that you should never play in a game with again, or a dt that you should never play in a game with again. If he flips one of the roles he has claimed then we could possibly use that information.
If Palmar flips town (he will not) then we are in a better position to evaluate Radfield's alignment. But if Palmar was calendar man then will will know that radfield is "not town" Palmar is almost certainly "not town" and killing him will have additional benefits - being able to actually focus on the lynch.
OR Radfield has caught us another scum. Hi-fives all-around!
Lynching Palmar could have a range of outcomes from, lynching a town DT and then lynching batman the next day( a monumentally improbable outcome). To lynching scum (a fairly likely outcome). Today and being in a great position tomorrow. Whatever happens lynching Palmar should greatly increase our ability to scumhunt and produce useful discussion. Palmar is almost certainly "not town". He has been having fun at YOUR expense. KILL PALMAR WITH FIRE!
I know there are people that are more likely to be scum than Palmar. But i want him to die. If he is 3rd party i want him to lose. If he is town i think he deseves to die. If he is scum then he needs to die.
I think we should have killed him day2 as a matter of principle, but with the DT check on sheth that wasn't really an option.
On February 14 2012 01:07 layabout wrote: Qualis has a good shot of being scum too.
I know there are people that are more likely to be scum than Palmar. But i want him to die. If he is 3rd party i want him to lose. If he is town i think he deseves to die. If he is scum then he needs to die.
I think we should have killed him day2 as a matter of principle, but with the DT check on sheth that wasn't really an option.
I don´t like Palmar trolling either, but it´s either live with it, or loose. We can´t afford a mislynch, but neither can we afford wasting a lynch on third party right now. They may not have Towns best interest in mind, but it´s leaving them be or loose.
We can afford a mislynch, lynching batman is not strictly a mislynch anyhow.
15-5-2 and 3 scum KP where there are 2 bulletproof non-scum 0+veterans, two scum players that would cost scum a KP if they died and 1+ town medics. in addition we have a shit-ton of likely scum candidates and we should still have some vigi-shots left. we also have some "DT's"
We can afford to lynch batman, who wants to kill one of our vigis.
On February 06 2012 05:26 kitaman27 wrote: To what degree is the no role claiming of Batman/Cat Woman enforced? Are they allowed to hint at their role without directly claiming? Are they allowed to claim their hits? Is town allowed to identify the third party roles by forcing a mass batman claim, where the only person not allowed to claim is revealed?
They claim at any point in time they are modkilled. If they hint their role and I catch it they are modkilled. They can claim hits, they can claim who they checked. Anyone who attempts to force a mass batman or catwoman claim will be banned after game concludes and both batman/catwoman in that circumstance may claim their role.
Same general rules apply as last game in this regard. It comes down to, anyone who attempts to exploit or circumvent a rule will be punished.
On that note. I will be firing out roles within the next 20-30 minutes, game will start between 10 and 11 pm est tonight.
If they hint their role and I catch it they are modkilled.
Palmar
that post could definitely be interpreted as claiming 3rd party. but such speculation is against the spirit of the game and we should be careful and avoid discussing it.
Any player that has not explicity said and explained why they think Radfield/Palmar is scum is definitely not acting in towns best interests.
I want palmar to die because i think he is not town. If he is scum we should lynch him. If he is 3rd party then i still want him to die, but it is entirely out of spite.
Evan/Tyrran are the players i think are the most likely to flip scum. The tyrran lynch did not gain the momentum it should have. If evan is not scum then it would have been sensible for scum to be on it. There have been so many other (and much weaker) cases pushed that it seems increasingly likely that evan is scum. ##vote evantrees + Show Spoiler +