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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
February 10 2012 16:11 GMT
#1841
On February 11 2012 01:08 Kurumi wrote:
Chaoser, please, tell me. Did You see a red spy on the way here?


huh?
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 10 2012 16:11 GMT
#1842
On February 11 2012 01:09 rgTheSchworz wrote:
No.


ok you did not check him. I want you to tell us the name of the guy you checked. Not the result, not his role nothing but the name.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 10 2012 16:12 GMT
#1843
On February 11 2012 00:48 chaoser wrote:
Your narrative is that you are the joker, your shot is unblockable, you shot Radfield, therefore he is the Batman, that you will die tonight due to outing yourself as the joker, and that if Sheth flips mafia or miller then we move on as usual and "carry on by lynching scummy fuckers". This implies that, even if Sheth flips miller that we should all buy into this notion that Radfield is Batman when that is a horrible leap of logic. If Sheth is miller then we need to rethink the situation and be a bit more cynical. It is possible that you are lying. It is possible that Radfield is actually mafia since they have a DT role.


In order for this to happen I need to be lying about my unblockable shot, and the mafia team needs to somehow have decided to check Sheth (wtf?). I know if I was on the scum team he'd be like the last person I'd check unless I suspected the game was plagued with millers, which the mafia cannot have known until this last dawn.

In addition, it means mafia would be attempting to buy credit for one of their members, while exposing them as DTs. If we assume I'm lying about my hit, and thus Radfield is lying about getting hit. (which seems awfully orchestrated...)

Radfield won't nameclaim. Radfield survived a hit.

Radfield is third party. Radfield is either batman or catwoman. There is no leap of logic.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 10 2012 16:14 GMT
#1844
On February 11 2012 01:06 chaoser wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I've been waiting for a chance to use this gif lol


Solid defense.

When all else fails just troll?
Computer says mafia
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
February 10 2012 16:17 GMT
#1845
Fuck it, lynch me if you will, but either you re CW and trying to test me if I am Two-Face, or you play surprisingly bad as town.
CW is my humble opinion.
I think you thought I was extremely stupid to claim Two-Face, and you would put it beyond noobiness or whatever and FORGOT even to DT me in your efforts to appear town.
So now, I am not even sure if I die tonight.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 10 2012 16:19 GMT
#1846
On February 11 2012 01:17 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Fuck it, lynch me if you will, but either you re CW and trying to test me if I am Two-Face, or you play surprisingly bad as town.
CW is my humble opinion.
I think you thought I was extremely stupid to claim Two-Face, and you would put it beyond noobiness or whatever and FORGOT even to DT me in your efforts to appear town.
So now, I am not even sure if I die tonight.


You are irrelevant at the moment. As I said, it's probably best that both of you don't talk more about your situation until tomorrow. Today is the day where we either lynch Sheth, or we do the right thing and kill chaoser.
Computer says mafia
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
February 10 2012 16:19 GMT
#1847
You want me to what, back down on my words?
You want to make me a liar so you can lynch me Day 3.
I’m not having this. Do your own job Catwoman, and have the guts to kill me tonight.
I actually think you‘re afraid I am the wrong target and you‘ll miss.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
February 10 2012 16:20 GMT
#1848
On February 09 2012 22:49 Radfield wrote:
I got shot last night.

rgShworz is obviously not Two Face, and in act I'm willing to bet he is not a DT. He claimed a hit, yet no WAY catwoman did not target him last night.

Therefore he is either unkillable by Catwoman, which means he is either one of the vets (Solomon Grundy, Clayface, Bane, and Mr. Freeze) or Poison Ivy; or he himself is catwoman.

Yet he has claimed DT, which means he can only be catwoman out of those options. The Two-Face claim kinda makes sense if he's catwoman, but I can't really wrap my head around it. However his entire role-claim was bizarre(claiming dt out of the blue), which reminds me ALOT of the iGroks early neutral-balrog claim. There was almost no pressure, and he claimed a role which was basically guaranteed to see him killed. If he was bulletproof at night that actually makes sense, as the lynch is the only thing he fears. I still need to think about this, but he's not the lynch today.

We're missing a ton of KP, so it makes sense that if he is catwoman, he might have investigated DocH. Which means it's possible he's not lying, but it sure sounds like bullshit. He should have gotten a role back, not an alignment.

Either way, DocH and Toad seem more than confident enough, and both seem like town. If it comes to name claiming so be it, but I'd rather their identities remain hidden.




In other news, I investigated Sheth last night and he is Tyger

This gives us a whole truckload of info from the Day 1 lynch, because Sheth and CC were neck and neck for a while until CC ran away with it. I haven't looked through it yet, but I assure you scum will fall when I do


##Vote Sheth




On February 09 2012 22:51 Palmar wrote:
Radfield, how did you survive? Is it it your role?

I shot you dead good last night. But you're much less dead than I had hoped?


This looks pretty well timed and orchestrated to me. Especially since before this, on that day, you posted things like:

On February 09 2012 21:02 Palmar wrote:
I want radfield dead. He seems to care very little about this game. In addition, I think his list during the night is both terrible and incriminating. Also, I think he's scum.


On February 09 2012 19:28 Palmar wrote:
@Bugs, what do you think of Radfield, what do you think of me, and what do you think of this whole mess with toad and drh and rgts?


even though you should have already known Radfield was not mafia at that point since, as you said, your shot is unblockable and

On Feb 10 2012 10:22 (57 min) Palmar wrote:
Radfield cannot be Red because I hit him. So doing the obvious play is even more obvious.


and

On February 11 2012 00:48 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 00:39 Jayjay54 wrote:
On February 11 2012 00:22 Palmar wrote:
Radfield cannot be Red because I hit him. So doing the obvious play is even more obvious.


I don't get it. You mentioned in your joker claim that you can't instakill vets. Scum has a vet. How do you conclude survived a shot => third. He obviously wouldn't claim vet as scum.

Will read the thread and make a bigger post...


I have the same list of names I cannot kill as appear in Batman's and Catwoman's role. The mafia vet is not in that list.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
February 10 2012 16:20 GMT
#1849
I know I am irrelevant, Palmar, but I have a great chance of dying tonight.
So, I have to post in case these are my last posts
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 10 2012 16:22 GMT
#1850
Post them tonight. Today you have a chance of helping town in a way that matters. Kill Chaoser
Computer says mafia
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 10 2012 16:23 GMT
#1851
that's not exactly helping Schworz. I am a townie and I am not trying to find something out I am not supposed to know.
But Palmar tells me to shut up so I'll shut up for now. I'm up for lynching chaoser as well, he's the only one that made it to my "KILL IT WITH FIRE"-list while all 7 other people I think might end up flipping mafia are only on my "probably mafia"-list.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
February 10 2012 16:24 GMT
#1852
Sheth: Nothing more to say. There’s a DT claim on him. Batman or catwoman has no intention of falseclaiming DT whatsoever. And there is palmar who claims he’s third (thanks for clearing that up btw), which I don’t believe yet ( I don’t even know if you shot), but is another reason to clean this triangle up asap. Sheth is either miller or scum. I’ll go with scum. If he flips blue, we’ll need to have some private time with Rad, however.

Palmar: Still, I feel like your insane self more. Can’t wait for the night .

rG: Adam has figured the Toad / Doc situation as well, which gives me even more faith that what I see is true.

This may be occam’s razor, but the possibility that this DT claim is a scum move for bluehunting is the best explanation I have for the events. If scum / batman really has all role pms (I doubt that’s the case, especially for scum), it’s still really tough for scum to pull off a subtle thing like that. Plus, there’s the danger of a counterclaim which didn’t happen.
= > if your or doc’s role is know and not miller / insane cop like, which apparently is true, then you are lying. You will be my prime lynch target tomorrow. If you survive the night hunted by cats.

WBG:
On February 10 2012 18:02 wherebugsgo wrote:
fuck this game man

I feel like there are no competent townies playing with me. I wish sandro was here, at least then I'd be able to talk to someone useful.

Post like this drive me insane. Not only are they condescending, but it also disencourages a lot of players to put effort in the game, because no one (bugs) would care anyway. This results in more lurkers and more places to hide for scum. Way to go. But you are the rising star on some watchlists anyways…I don’t like your list either. Forumite, nuke feel really random. Kurumi’s case is based entirely on meta. You also don’t believe that sheth is scummy. I don’t know why you would, regardless of your alignment, think so.

Hiro:
It has been stated a billion times how his play differs from his blue play in L.
I liked layabout’s case:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 10 2012 05:55 layabout wrote:
After sheth hangs who should we kill first (out of these two players):
Hiro Proagonist or Evantrees?

Hiro has been awfully quiet and has promised analysis but not delivered.
Show nested quote +
My activity has been low due to RL. Dont worry, these issues are being handled in a timely manner, and you will have regular activity from me ASAP. If I fail this, lynch or shoot me.

Show nested quote +
Turkeg needs to die because he is scum. Should he and I live though the night, I will write an analysis on him come morning

but he does not appear to be a moron.
Show nested quote +
I need to die because I dont want to be reading this bullshit anymore, and I don't have the time needed to devout to helping foster a better town atmosphere right now. I wanted to sit back and catch scum when I find them and not have to be here all the time to guide dumb townies -__-

Show nested quote +
People need to listen to layabout more.


Evan has promised nothing and delivered nothing except for unhelpful posts about the setup.
Show nested quote +

Proper voting format is

##vote name
BC do you care if there are : in there?

Show nested quote +
From active list of games it is apparently a "normal" game.
Ongoing Game List - Updated Feb 8
[T][I] Sleeper Cell 2 - 9/15 alive; due to end Feb 12 - Feb 18 (iGrok is host; Greymist is cohost)
[M][N] Normal Mini Mafia I - 8/12 alive; due to end Feb 11 - Feb 16 (GMarshal is host; redFF is cohost)
[N] BC's Arkham City - 30/31 alive; due to end Feb 18 - Feb 28 (BloodyC0bbler is host; Curu is cohost)

I though it was themed but apparently not. What is the difference exactly? Themed just get super crazy?

his lynch talk:
Show nested quote +
Bah good enough.
##Vote Cyber_Cheese

Show nested quote +
I have no problem voting for someone based on getting utter nonsense from them.
Lets hear something Schworz, until them.

##Vote rgTheSchworz

neither are town assets.

Also, his first „I need to die” already confused me, then he follows up with:
On February 10 2012 09:23 hiro protagonist wrote:
Speaking of people not living up to there potential this game, someone needs to put a bullet in hiro protagonist. That dude is useless right now, and I know he can play a good town game. He should have been shot last night...

and
On February 10 2012 09:39 hiro protagonist wrote:
Palmar, your dumb if you think layabout is scum.

The latter is either a strange try to befriend the guy who just made a case or another way of saying “I’m bad, kill me”.
At TL you get banned for matyring. At mafia you get lynched. Well, not always, but given your play in general you do. The only reason, I don’t want to lynch you tomorrow is because I want to lynch rGzworzel first. But, you my friend, are scum and don’t care.

J(aybrunage): First of all, don’t just call him Jay, I always feel addressed and sometimes I even am. I don’t like that. He looks more and more scummy to me and his defense post against Opz case (half-stolen from doc) was less than convincing. You should step up.


BM: He has been useless all day. Waiting excitedly for his next claim.


And finally: Flash: Welcome <3

Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 10 2012 16:26 GMT
#1853
I'm pretty sure what jayjay and adam figured out is what I wanted them to think :3
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
February 10 2012 16:29 GMT
#1854
On February 11 2012 01:26 Toadesstern wrote:
I'm pretty sure what jayjay and adam figured out is what I wanted them to think :3


I'd bet on your role right now.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
February 10 2012 16:29 GMT
#1855
Apart from Toad being Poison Ivy, and DocH claiming Clayface, I dont ,,understand,, the Doc/Toad relationship.
Seems Doc is a temporary shield for Toad or Toad s a vet himself.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 10 2012 16:29 GMT
#1856
On February 11 2012 01:20 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 22:51 Palmar wrote:
Radfield, how did you survive? Is it it your role?

I shot you dead good last night. But you're much less dead than I had hoped?


This looks pretty well timed and orchestrated to me. Especially since before this, on that day, you posted things like:

Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 21:02 Palmar wrote:
I want radfield dead. He seems to care very little about this game. In addition, I think his list during the night is both terrible and incriminating. Also, I think he's scum.


Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 19:28 Palmar wrote:
@Bugs, what do you think of Radfield, what do you think of me, and what do you think of this whole mess with toad and drh and rgts?


even though you should have already known Radfield was not mafia at that point since, as you said, your shot is unblockable and



He's third party, that's reason enough to force him to post. I wanted him to claim the shot, and I wanted to see if I could force him to fake-claim a role, which he hasn't so far. I wanted to see if he had the balls to claim the hit (and thus force him to out himself as 3rd party). He claimed the hit AND he claimed the DT check. I wanted HIM to take the initiative.

This is the reason I think it's more likely he's Batman. Batman has nothing to fear from town really, as his main goal is to find and kill Hugo Strange. The Joker is out now. The fact that he had the balls to claim the hit AND the DT check, while refusing to name-claim and knowing no medic would ever claim a protection on him, all points to him being the batman.

Tell me Chaoser.

do you think I shot Radfield last night?

Do you think him surviving, while also having DT powers is logical scum play?

Or could it be that we're just both telling the truth? He really is the Batman, or a very ballsy Catwoman.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 10 2012 16:30 GMT
#1857
On February 11 2012 01:29 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 01:26 Toadesstern wrote:
I'm pretty sure what jayjay and adam figured out is what I wanted them to think :3


I'd bet on your role right now.


And you'd be wrong. But that's irrelevant. Vote for Chaoser.
Computer says mafia
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 10 2012 16:32 GMT
#1858
On February 11 2012 01:29 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 01:26 Toadesstern wrote:
I'm pretty sure what jayjay and adam figured out is what I wanted them to think :3


I'd bet on your role right now.


that's not allowed but even if it were I'd bet you don't know a thing :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
February 10 2012 16:33 GMT
#1859
On February 11 2012 01:30 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 01:29 Jayjay54 wrote:
On February 11 2012 01:26 Toadesstern wrote:
I'm pretty sure what jayjay and adam figured out is what I wanted them to think :3


I'd bet on your role right now.


And you'd be wrong. But that's irrelevant. Vote for Chaoser.


as always, good sir, you underestimate me, but that's irrelevant too.

like right now vote for Chaoser? aren't you the one who said to clear out DT checks first?

Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
February 10 2012 16:37 GMT
#1860
For what its worth, I know exactly what role Toad is, what his special power was and why it was that way. Hence why I'm far more inclined to believe him and DocH, unless a counterclaim was to come forward.


I'd bet on your role right now.


I followed word for word for 3 hours, rereadig twice what those 2 said.

I am smart(enough) if 2 ppl out of 30 found it, I am able to find it.

I haven t played arkham city, but have read the wiki to understand the relationships between the characters.


If it‘s that obvious, and you don‘t wanna out it,then why the hell do it?
Hell, If I didnt know better, I d have said JayJay and Adam are scum.

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