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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 13 2012 19:00 GMT
#2921
maybe they even called bullshit on my immortality claim and tried to shoot me as well. Who knows. I don't get notifications.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
February 13 2012 19:01 GMT
#2922
On February 14 2012 03:59 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 03:56 Kurumi wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:55 Jayjay54 wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:51 Kurumi wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:49 hiro protagonist wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:41 Kurumi wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:39 hiro protagonist wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:36 Kurumi wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:34 hiro protagonist wrote:
eh, your right layabout.

Palmar is scum or 3rd party. Nothing about his claim makes sense, and he has claimed a lot this game, dispite the fact that when people call him out on it he tells them to stop lying. He also makes cases, only then not to push them very hard. He sheeps Kumari, thus leavening his guilt at voting for someone on him. Palmar trolls alot as both town and scum, but he cant help but be useful as town even when he is trolling. Somethings off, and the simplest explanation is that he is not town. Scum Palmar can do all of this shit and get away with it because he is a very good at arguing himself out of a lynch. I think he is scum.

Palmar does not troll.
He claimed everything.
He coloured every player with corresponding colour to him, but he left himself with a rainbow.
He called Radfield Talia based on him surviving a shot.
He got rbed N2 instead of Radfield.
Radfield is alive on D3 when he claimed DT D2.
Ding-ding?

All WIFOM. these statements do not deduce aliment. Actions do, and his actions have not been protown in my eyes.

So Radfield is alive because of what?
He did not get shot N2. He did not get roleblocked N2.
Why he isn't dead?

Why is he not dead? They thought someone would be protecting him? Why no roleblock? Dont no. But If Rad was scum he could have easily claimed roleblocked, or come in with a "check" on someone that died last night, as is what happened, but so can real DTs. WIFOM. These incidents dont make someone scum, there actions do.

Double stack, do You think we've got stupid scum in this Player Roster?


tbf, they double (maybe triplestacked) doc in order to get rid of two confirmed blue roles in one strike. which is an understandable move...

Hits were on DocH and me. No vigilante claimed shooting me. So it was either Schworz(cause he's insane) or scum kp.

Also "Two"? Since when "one" is "two"? You thought Palmar was going to hit Toad?

yup, he will. you'll see. in the not so likely case that palmar isn't batman, some other batman will kill him. I am 90% sure.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 13 2012 19:03 GMT
#2923
On February 14 2012 04:01 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 03:59 Kurumi wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:56 Kurumi wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:55 Jayjay54 wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:51 Kurumi wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:49 hiro protagonist wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:41 Kurumi wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:39 hiro protagonist wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:36 Kurumi wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:34 hiro protagonist wrote:
eh, your right layabout.

Palmar is scum or 3rd party. Nothing about his claim makes sense, and he has claimed a lot this game, dispite the fact that when people call him out on it he tells them to stop lying. He also makes cases, only then not to push them very hard. He sheeps Kumari, thus leavening his guilt at voting for someone on him. Palmar trolls alot as both town and scum, but he cant help but be useful as town even when he is trolling. Somethings off, and the simplest explanation is that he is not town. Scum Palmar can do all of this shit and get away with it because he is a very good at arguing himself out of a lynch. I think he is scum.

Palmar does not troll.
He claimed everything.
He coloured every player with corresponding colour to him, but he left himself with a rainbow.
He called Radfield Talia based on him surviving a shot.
He got rbed N2 instead of Radfield.
Radfield is alive on D3 when he claimed DT D2.
Ding-ding?

All WIFOM. these statements do not deduce aliment. Actions do, and his actions have not been protown in my eyes.

So Radfield is alive because of what?
He did not get shot N2. He did not get roleblocked N2.
Why he isn't dead?

Why is he not dead? They thought someone would be protecting him? Why no roleblock? Dont no. But If Rad was scum he could have easily claimed roleblocked, or come in with a "check" on someone that died last night, as is what happened, but so can real DTs. WIFOM. These incidents dont make someone scum, there actions do.

Double stack, do You think we've got stupid scum in this Player Roster?


tbf, they double (maybe triplestacked) doc in order to get rid of two confirmed blue roles in one strike. which is an understandable move...

Hits were on DocH and me. No vigilante claimed shooting me. So it was either Schworz(cause he's insane) or scum kp.

Also "Two"? Since when "one" is "two"? You thought Palmar was going to hit Toad?

yup, he will. you'll see. in the not so likely case that palmar isn't batman, some other batman will kill him. I am 90% sure.


he wasn't asking about what palmar is going to do and kurumi misunderstood what you said earlier.

jj said they wanted to get rid of two powerroles. Therefore they double or tripplestacked the clayface to get me the next cycle or make me mortal again so that batman does that. That's very much understandable but Radfield would be a much higher priority than I am. Especially if you look at what you said earlier: I'm shooting townies left and right this game.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
February 13 2012 19:05 GMT
#2924
On February 14 2012 03:58 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 03:55 Jayjay54 wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:51 Kurumi wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:49 hiro protagonist wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:41 Kurumi wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:39 hiro protagonist wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:36 Kurumi wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:34 hiro protagonist wrote:
eh, your right layabout.

Palmar is scum or 3rd party. Nothing about his claim makes sense, and he has claimed a lot this game, dispite the fact that when people call him out on it he tells them to stop lying. He also makes cases, only then not to push them very hard. He sheeps Kumari, thus leavening his guilt at voting for someone on him. Palmar trolls alot as both town and scum, but he cant help but be useful as town even when he is trolling. Somethings off, and the simplest explanation is that he is not town. Scum Palmar can do all of this shit and get away with it because he is a very good at arguing himself out of a lynch. I think he is scum.

Palmar does not troll.
He claimed everything.
He coloured every player with corresponding colour to him, but he left himself with a rainbow.
He called Radfield Talia based on him surviving a shot.
He got rbed N2 instead of Radfield.
Radfield is alive on D3 when he claimed DT D2.
Ding-ding?

All WIFOM. these statements do not deduce aliment. Actions do, and his actions have not been protown in my eyes.

So Radfield is alive because of what?
He did not get shot N2. He did not get roleblocked N2.
Why he isn't dead?

Why is he not dead? They thought someone would be protecting him? Why no roleblock? Dont no. But If Rad was scum he could have easily claimed roleblocked, or come in with a "check" on someone that died last night, as is what happened, but so can real DTs. WIFOM. These incidents dont make someone scum, there actions do.

Double stack, do You think we've got stupid scum in this Player Roster?


tbf, they double (maybe triplestacked) doc in order to get rid of two confirmed blue roles in one strike. which is an understandable move...


don't you think a confirmed blue DT would be way more dangerous than a confirmed Veteran who already lost his 2nd live? Sure they want to get me as well but tripplestacking docH makes no sense if rad reall is a blue DT.
not RB'ing him doesn't make sense either.


yup, I don't get the RB. Maybe they tried to save a member in blocking batman. That is the only thing I can think of. Instantly loosing a team member is worse than a red DT check (with a good chance on a green/blue check)

I am just trying to see every angle. If we mislynch our single DT, which showed pro town behaviour so far, we will hate ourselves, this isn't a light decision, nor should it be. We can probably lose or win the game here.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 13 2012 19:05 GMT
#2925
BTW I already said I don't know if I got hit, right? Apparently radfield knew he got hit, so it has to be a medic or him being talia
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
February 13 2012 19:05 GMT
#2926
On February 14 2012 03:56 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 03:55 hiro protagonist wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:51 Kurumi wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:49 hiro protagonist wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:41 Kurumi wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:39 hiro protagonist wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:36 Kurumi wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:34 hiro protagonist wrote:
eh, your right layabout.

Palmar is scum or 3rd party. Nothing about his claim makes sense, and he has claimed a lot this game, dispite the fact that when people call him out on it he tells them to stop lying. He also makes cases, only then not to push them very hard. He sheeps Kumari, thus leavening his guilt at voting for someone on him. Palmar trolls alot as both town and scum, but he cant help but be useful as town even when he is trolling. Somethings off, and the simplest explanation is that he is not town. Scum Palmar can do all of this shit and get away with it because he is a very good at arguing himself out of a lynch. I think he is scum.

Palmar does not troll.
He claimed everything.
He coloured every player with corresponding colour to him, but he left himself with a rainbow.
He called Radfield Talia based on him surviving a shot.
He got rbed N2 instead of Radfield.
Radfield is alive on D3 when he claimed DT D2.
Ding-ding?

All WIFOM. these statements do not deduce aliment. Actions do, and his actions have not been protown in my eyes.

So Radfield is alive because of what?
He did not get shot N2. He did not get roleblocked N2.
Why he isn't dead?

Why is he not dead? They thought someone would be protecting him? Why no roleblock? Dont no. But If Rad was scum he could have easily claimed roleblocked, or come in with a "check" on someone that died last night, as is what happened, but so can real DTs. WIFOM. These incidents dont make someone scum, there actions do.

Double stack, do You think we've got stupid scum in this Player Roster?

Is WIFOM and a DT check from someone that has not been playing there usual protown self your only reason for wanting Rad dead?

He played more pro-town game than You.

I never claimed to be playing very protown this game, Im only claiming that I dont believe Palmar. I may be wrong, but It wont matter, It looks like Rad is gonna flip today, and If its scum, then shoot me. If not we kill Palmar. I just would prefer a different order of events.
"I guess if you climb enough off-widths, one of these days, your gonna get your knee stuck and shit your pants. Its just an odds thing really" -Jason Kruk
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
February 13 2012 19:06 GMT
#2927
On February 14 2012 04:05 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 03:58 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:55 Jayjay54 wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:51 Kurumi wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:49 hiro protagonist wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:41 Kurumi wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:39 hiro protagonist wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:36 Kurumi wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:34 hiro protagonist wrote:
eh, your right layabout.

Palmar is scum or 3rd party. Nothing about his claim makes sense, and he has claimed a lot this game, dispite the fact that when people call him out on it he tells them to stop lying. He also makes cases, only then not to push them very hard. He sheeps Kumari, thus leavening his guilt at voting for someone on him. Palmar trolls alot as both town and scum, but he cant help but be useful as town even when he is trolling. Somethings off, and the simplest explanation is that he is not town. Scum Palmar can do all of this shit and get away with it because he is a very good at arguing himself out of a lynch. I think he is scum.

Palmar does not troll.
He claimed everything.
He coloured every player with corresponding colour to him, but he left himself with a rainbow.
He called Radfield Talia based on him surviving a shot.
He got rbed N2 instead of Radfield.
Radfield is alive on D3 when he claimed DT D2.
Ding-ding?

All WIFOM. these statements do not deduce aliment. Actions do, and his actions have not been protown in my eyes.

So Radfield is alive because of what?
He did not get shot N2. He did not get roleblocked N2.
Why he isn't dead?

Why is he not dead? They thought someone would be protecting him? Why no roleblock? Dont no. But If Rad was scum he could have easily claimed roleblocked, or come in with a "check" on someone that died last night, as is what happened, but so can real DTs. WIFOM. These incidents dont make someone scum, there actions do.

Double stack, do You think we've got stupid scum in this Player Roster?


tbf, they double (maybe triplestacked) doc in order to get rid of two confirmed blue roles in one strike. which is an understandable move...


don't you think a confirmed blue DT would be way more dangerous than a confirmed Veteran who already lost his 2nd live? Sure they want to get me as well but tripplestacking docH makes no sense if rad reall is a blue DT.
not RB'ing him doesn't make sense either.


yup, I don't get the RB. Maybe they tried to save a member in blocking batman. That is the only thing I can think of. Instantly loosing a team member is worse than a red DT check (with a good chance on a green/blue check)

I am just trying to see every angle. If we mislynch our single DT, which showed pro town behaviour so far, we will hate ourselves, this isn't a light decision, nor should it be. We can probably lose or win the game here.

As You see, this lynch is really controversial. It is a goldmine. It is a sign that we're heading in the right direction.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
February 13 2012 19:06 GMT
#2928
On February 14 2012 04:05 Toadesstern wrote:
BTW I already said I don't know if I got hit, right? Apparently radfield knew he got hit, so it has to be a medic or him being talia

Or him lying. Or him being third.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
February 13 2012 19:08 GMT
#2929
On February 14 2012 04:06 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 04:05 Jayjay54 wrote:
yup, I don't get the RB. Maybe they tried to save a member in blocking batman. That is the only thing I can think of. Instantly loosing a team member is worse than a red DT check (with a good chance on a green/blue check)

I am just trying to see every angle. If we mislynch our single DT, which showed pro town behaviour so far, we will hate ourselves, this isn't a light decision, nor should it be. We can probably lose or win the game here.

As You see, this lynch is really controversial. It is a goldmine. It is a sign that we're heading in the right direction.


I agree, you see some long forgotten faces popping up, which is a good sign imo.

Still, mislynching our DT is fatal, we want to think this through as much as we can.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
February 13 2012 19:09 GMT
#2930
Yes, someone finally called bullshit on me.
I´m no DT, I faked the checks.
Since I am gonna stay in the game I have to start playing decently.
TL-ers are a bunch of non-believers. I seriously though someone would have picked up on what I was trying to do and not
disrupt it.
It would have worked then.

Palmar s the Bat, clearly. He cant claim so he fakes 5 claims or so.Riiight.
His actions make sense as the Bat.
Rad´s not scum either.

Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 13 2012 19:11 GMT
#2931
On February 14 2012 04:05 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 03:58 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:55 Jayjay54 wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:51 Kurumi wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:49 hiro protagonist wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:41 Kurumi wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:39 hiro protagonist wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:36 Kurumi wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:34 hiro protagonist wrote:
eh, your right layabout.

Palmar is scum or 3rd party. Nothing about his claim makes sense, and he has claimed a lot this game, dispite the fact that when people call him out on it he tells them to stop lying. He also makes cases, only then not to push them very hard. He sheeps Kumari, thus leavening his guilt at voting for someone on him. Palmar trolls alot as both town and scum, but he cant help but be useful as town even when he is trolling. Somethings off, and the simplest explanation is that he is not town. Scum Palmar can do all of this shit and get away with it because he is a very good at arguing himself out of a lynch. I think he is scum.

Palmar does not troll.
He claimed everything.
He coloured every player with corresponding colour to him, but he left himself with a rainbow.
He called Radfield Talia based on him surviving a shot.
He got rbed N2 instead of Radfield.
Radfield is alive on D3 when he claimed DT D2.
Ding-ding?

All WIFOM. these statements do not deduce aliment. Actions do, and his actions have not been protown in my eyes.

So Radfield is alive because of what?
He did not get shot N2. He did not get roleblocked N2.
Why he isn't dead?

Why is he not dead? They thought someone would be protecting him? Why no roleblock? Dont no. But If Rad was scum he could have easily claimed roleblocked, or come in with a "check" on someone that died last night, as is what happened, but so can real DTs. WIFOM. These incidents dont make someone scum, there actions do.

Double stack, do You think we've got stupid scum in this Player Roster?


tbf, they double (maybe triplestacked) doc in order to get rid of two confirmed blue roles in one strike. which is an understandable move...


don't you think a confirmed blue DT would be way more dangerous than a confirmed Veteran who already lost his 2nd live? Sure they want to get me as well but tripplestacking docH makes no sense if rad reall is a blue DT.
not RB'ing him doesn't make sense either.


yup, I don't get the RB. Maybe they tried to save a member in blocking batman. That is the only thing I can think of. Instantly loosing a team member is worse than a red DT check (with a good chance on a green/blue check)

I am just trying to see every angle. If we mislynch our single DT, which showed pro town behaviour so far, we will hate ourselves, this isn't a light decision, nor should it be. We can probably lose or win the game here.


agree, this is a turning point but I simply can't believe we'll end up having wbg + forumite + palmar + kurumite as reds.
If palmar really is batman he does not want to lie to us unless he never shot radfield but DT'ed him instead and wants us to take out hugo so that he can shoot me next night. I can live with that (ehehe, got the pun? )
Or he's not batman at all and is CW instead. That only makes sense if he already knows both penguin and two-face, wants us to lynch one of them and will win the game at night.
That's the only 2 scenarios I see him lying to us and only the 2nd one is a problem.

The only issue I have is that we're bound to have both penguin and Two-Face in this game.
Schworz I want you to tell us your check on Chaoser. I need to know if you're twoface and I don't care if you die. If you are not two-face there's got to be someone else being two-face who is not feeling like claiming or we might bullshit right now.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 13 2012 19:12 GMT
#2932
Okay so someone else is two-face. Do you think Radfield is Two-face Schworz?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
February 13 2012 19:14 GMT
#2933
I have bullshitted about being a DT.
Rad isnt lynchable right now, because heck, Palmar s not playing for Town.
He s Batman. You are the Joker.
He is trying to get someone he didnt check lynched..
That way he has a ton of chances of finding Hugo.
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
February 13 2012 19:14 GMT
#2934
No, I believe Rad to have trueclaimed.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 13 2012 19:15 GMT
#2935
On February 14 2012 03:58 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 03:53 Palmar wrote:
It's cute to see the mafia try and powerplay me out of the game.

Chaoser, you're such obvious scum lol.

And for those wondering. I am not batman, or catwoman or any other third party. Only reason I left my name ambiguous in that list is because that's for others to find out.


Show nested quote +
1. Sheth is scum, Chaoser is scum

Looking at the interactions here, I don't think this is the case. If it is it's surprisingly good scum play from both of them. Chaosers direct push to actually lynch Sheth while keeping open the possibility of Sheth flipping miller would be a ridiculously powerful play to absolve him of any "knowledge" about the flip. I have almost no reason to believe this is the case.


Thanks for the compliment honey <3


Didn't think you had it in you. But I forgot that Sheth is obsessed with bussing.
Computer says mafia
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
February 13 2012 19:15 GMT
#2936
Whom do we lynch?
Well, we have one lynch target thats clearly scum.
After JayBrundage that is.
That is Forumite.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 13 2012 19:16 GMT
#2937
okay explain what's going on schworz. Please.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
February 13 2012 19:17 GMT
#2938
With whom?
Forumite or me?
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 13 2012 19:18 GMT
#2939
why do you believe rad is not mafia.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
February 13 2012 19:22 GMT
#2940
On February 14 2012 04:15 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 03:58 chaoser wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:53 Palmar wrote:
It's cute to see the mafia try and powerplay me out of the game.

Chaoser, you're such obvious scum lol.

And for those wondering. I am not batman, or catwoman or any other third party. Only reason I left my name ambiguous in that list is because that's for others to find out.


1. Sheth is scum, Chaoser is scum

Looking at the interactions here, I don't think this is the case. If it is it's surprisingly good scum play from both of them. Chaosers direct push to actually lynch Sheth while keeping open the possibility of Sheth flipping miller would be a ridiculously powerful play to absolve him of any "knowledge" about the flip. I have almost no reason to believe this is the case.


Thanks for the compliment honey <3


Didn't think you had it in you. But I forgot that Sheth is obsessed with bussing.


As am I! Wow, you're a grade-A detective aren't you? Even better than Sherlock Holmes. Here's a gift for you

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