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CosmosXAM
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On January 26 2012 06:53 zarepath wrote: Right, we've moved on past random lynching. Who do you think is suspicious? If I had to say I would probably go with fakepromise because of how he was so quick to agree. Also Chocolate seems mildly suspicious because of his quick jump to voting straight for me based on little information, but I havent found enough conclusive evidence to make a post strongly against someone. This is just my first game and I can only be active for a few hours in the day so hopefully people dont misconstrue that information. | ||
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On January 26 2012 08:27 SacredSystem wrote: ## vote: FakePromise 1: you gotta vote in the voting thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=306091 and 2: I find it a bit odd your jump from On January 25 2012 14:55 SacredSystem wrote: to straight up voting for him, I mean sure he now has two votes going for him but you said that you wanted to wait for more information and based on him only posting once and your points about him just being copy&paste what other people had said earlier and not offering any new information or opinions I find your vote to be very bandwagon-ey. I am not trying to say that you are mafia or to go as far as that but just pointing out that simply copying what others say and blindly agreeing is very suspicious.However, despite several conclusions that we all wish to draw, we need to wait, the mafia will all expose themselves at some point in time. on a side note Fakepromise agreed with him at 30% odds -_- | ||
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On January 26 2012 09:22 gumshoe wrote: Can I join this please? Please tell me it isn't too late to join! Way to late to join, please read the whole thread before doing something like this. | ||
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On the note of who I believe as mafia I still am a little nervous about Fakepromise's lack of posts and reappearance then disappearance. And zarepath because all I have seen him do is agree with people and constantly changes his viewpoints. Chocolate was a heat of the moment suspision based on him pressuring me and I don't really think that he is mafia anymore. So with my vote being able to be cahnged in the event of new information I would like to vote now for zarepath based on his "yes man" attitude toward everything and how he never has a solid opinion. ##Vote: zarepath | ||
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On January 27 2012 06:35 MidnightGladius wrote: A no-lynch does not help us. Not only do we give up the chance of you/FakePromise turning out to be mafia, but it also eliminates the information that would be generated by people arguing for/against certain candidates. If we lynch no one, then it's very likely that we'll just be having this discussion again on Day 2. I would have predicted an innocent in your position to pick one target and hit hard, not present us with half-formed accusations against multiple players. As none of your arguments are particularly precise, detailed, or convincing, your voting for zarepath now feels even more out of place. FakePromise's blunder remains more convincing to me, but honestly, at this point you're digging yourself a deeper hole in my eyes. If you don't make a more solid defense before the Day ends, I'm going to strongly favor your lynch tomorrow. I would not predict someone who has very little experience to simply stick with 1 person to target, I prefer looking at the big picture of things not just what is topical right now in my mind I have a 50/50 thought on who to vote for (the people I listed) so to get others opinions I voted for the one others seemed to have not considered instead of just adding another vote to a person making it easier for the mafia to lynch them if they happened to not be mafia. I did this fully knowing that I could remove my vote if new information came up about either of the two that I have in mind. | ||
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In a case where a larger group of 2-4 people strongly defend a person while simultaneously attack another seems to me like a deflection that could be very well employed by a mafia helping a friend: they bring attention off their ally and put pressure on someone who isnt. Now even if it isn't a larger group like that you would think that a person known by the mafia to be mafia would at least be defended a little. I am seeing a some strong similarities in posts and opinions and some alliances showing their faces, I would advise everyone to re-read some posts by both zarepath and DoYouHas. I noticed that their later posts have striking similarities and that they both seem to just pick targets together, first with zelblade and now with me, and they attacked us while in most cases defending someone else in both cases FakePromise and in DoYouHas's case zarepath. To me this seems very scummy and I stand 100% by my vote on zarepath as of this point. | ||
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but to answer your question I would have to say that you appear to be town because all you seem to do is forward the conversation and constantly try to keep everyone on track. and for who is mafia I would have to go with zarepath like I said in earlier posts, I dont feel that fakepromise going town redeems zarepath of my suspisions. | ||
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To be honest there is now so much going on in the game that when I try to look at a single person whom I think to be mafia that my information get convoluted, at this time I am just trying to take a step back, slow things down and try to glance at the wider picture and scope of things. | ||
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On January 28 2012 08:37 slOosh wrote: List of haven't posted yet (in bold) Bromancipate, Cosmos, still waiting for your response. Adam, you paint a target on your back by the town by not responding. Please post and help town. Appointment is coming up soon, but I'll be back around 1/2EST to post what I've gleaned from this plan and help interpret the night actions. Deflecting is a tactic used by many professions involving talking with a people and hiding information or making sure that the conversation goes your way. What they did is instead of focusing on themselves in a town like fashion (in my opinion) they instantly started attacking other people that had been talked about before, To me that felt very mafia like especially with how they sway the conversation away from themselves or try to by pointing out how futile their deaths will be. | ||
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##Vote: zarepath | ||
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On January 30 2012 12:34 DoYouHas wrote: Success! We now have a firm piece of ground to from which to reason. Just as CosmosXAM has said, I am going to be looking hard at what happened directly after sl0osh posted his case and I posted my case. Hey hey hey man, don't forget me posting my case against him just before slOosh  And yea going to bed now, and I have school all day tomorrow so I wont be back until 5 pm CST. Hopefully I will have enough time to read all that happens before Day 3 starts. | ||
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You have hindsight bias here. Zarepath defended himself saying that his plan was just a ploy to generate discussion. People believed this or at least gave him benefit of doubt. We didn't know (100% upon flip) that Zarepath was mafia till day 2. On day 1, no one vocally suspected him until me, then a few others. If you look on page 10 I was actually the first to suggest zarepath, you made your point on page 11, not trying to say anything I just wouldn't like to be forgotten about that. | ||
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P.S. My compliments to dreamflower for making the story much more interesting :D | ||
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On January 31 2012 12:26 DoYouHas wrote: I will be making my case against [red]Simberto[red] today. This will include why he is mafia, why he is the most dangerous to the town atm, and why he needs to be lynched today above all others. This will be another wall of text post and so I encourage you to look into him yourself since it will take me a while to write. Don't just use his filter either, you need a sense of what was going on in the thread in order to see what I've seen. I like that you bring that up, I just started looking through his posts and what he reacts too, and am starting to get a feel for what you might say. Hopefully I see your post before I go to sleep, but until then I will be looking into him more. | ||
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On February 01 2012 12:09 Adam4167 wrote: After rereading the thread in its entirety, ive noticed something. Zarepath pushing CosmosXAM as a lynch candidate on day 1 stemmed partly from CosmosXAM pointing the finger a Chocolate for being 'suspicious'. This is a textbook example of what is known as a 'Chainsaw Defense', which is when one mafia gets attacked by a townie, another mafia attacks the accuser to deflect suspicion back on the townie. Its right Here at the bottom of that horrible WIFOM'ey defense of FakePromise. Add on top of this, both times I've called him mafia, hes come out of lurker mode. I'm seeing too much in favor of voting for Chocolate, and not enough redeeming him. ##Vote Chocolate One thing that sticks out to me in Simberto's filter is the continual redirects onto balt11t. And There Are Lots And Lots Of Them So I guess I am posed with the question of was he doing this to pick up the 'town cred' after we inevitably killed balt? (because lets face it, that was going to happen, sooner rather than later) Interesting points, after reading a lot of previous posts I think that my new top three that might be mafia (I know there is only two left) would have to be chocolate simberto zelblade though I doubt both simberto and zelblade would be mafia together, still not even close to 100% on any of these so i think I will hold my vote off for a bit. | ||
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@Cosmas, why do I get this feeling that you absolutely hate committing to anything in this game? You're last post makes me feel like you want to show initiative that you are being a townie, yet don't want any responsibility of a miss-lynch. Is it just me, or is anyone else reading that? Do cat-foot around. You seem so wishy-washy. Bromancipate, I don't hate committing in this game, just at this moment I do not feel that there is a strong enough candidate as mafia for me to completely go behind, I have said before that I am trying to look at the bigger picture of things and not to focus on one person, I don't know who is mafia and who isn't and until I see enough evidence to form my own opinion of a person I try not to simply go for them. Now I am voting for simberto because 1: He is on my list of who I feel is most likely to be mafia, and 2: he is the majority vote right now, but its very close and I'd rather see someone on my list get lynched then someone to change their vote and there be a no lynch. And frankly your aggressive tone towards everyone in this game doesn't rub me the right way, not trying to insinuate too much I will just be watching you closer from now on and looking closer at your past statements. | ||
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On February 03 2012 12:40 Bromancipate wrote: He claimed medic, that is the only way he would know if Adam was shot. I think he is sold on Zelblade. Yea I assumed he was medic after that statement, I just don't see a reason to paint a target on his back like that for mafia, he wasn't in danger of being lynched and adam wasn't either. I guess adam being shot helps the point on chocolate, not so much on zelblade, adam barely seemed to talk of zelblade recently. | ||
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On February 03 2012 12:47 DoYouHas wrote: Alrighty then, the time has finally come. I am the Detective. You know this to be true, but to make sure, I have been breadcrumbing. The first night I investigated CosmosXAM, he was a Townie + Show Spoiler + First character first line, second character second line, x=x. Forms the word checking in a diagonal line pointing to CosmosXAM in this post. The second night I investigated SacredSystem, he was a Townie + Show Spoiler + In this post I formed the word investigate out of 'inv'entory, 'esta'blish, 'gat'her, lik'e', all leading to SacredSystem. The third night I investigated zelblade, he was a Townie + Show Spoiler + In this post I did the same thing as with SacredSystem, except with the words 'in', 've'ry, 'sti'll, waitin'g', 'at, th'e', leading to zelblade. So now, what to do with this information? I have not checked sl0osh, Adam, Bromancipate, or Chocolate. Given the nature of the day1 performances of all the people I have checked so far (lurking) I find it unlikely that a godfather is among them, especially with Bromancipate on the board. I have strong town reads on sl0osh and Adam, and apparently Adam has been saved tonight, (still waiting on confirmation). This leaves our remaining mafia as Bromancipate and Chocolate. Genius my friend! :D well that settles it for me ##Vote: Bromancipate (never really liked the hydra anyway) | ||
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On February 03 2012 13:04 Adam4167 wrote: I was shot last night, as I was expecting. Grats on the zealot dreamflower =) I had DoYouHas figured out as the cop very early on, but I knew he didnt check Simberto on night 2, since he posted his reads at 11:59, before a cop check would have come back. Hence why I took such offence to Chocolate pointing it out (albeit with flawed reasoning) Well, we cant count out the possibility of a GF, one of your innocent checks may infact be him. They have no roleblocker, so 4 goons vs a Cop, Medic and 1-shot vig sounds a bit unfair, giving heavy weight to a GF being present. Sloosh, did you protect n2? i thought for sure if we had a medic, he would have protted MG after claiming vig. Either way, boss saves bro. Whos taking the first swing today? if there was a GF I dont see how he could get two mafia goons, unless one is a miller which I doubt we have but no one can know that for 100% | ||
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