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On January 24 2012 23:11 Bluelightz wrote: GCQ just played in TL Mafia L no? :p and he played in Survivor I if you want to know he's no newbie :p And Survivor II! Don't look at my play in Mafia L, it's not good  I played pretty good mafia in Sleeper Cell I, and pretty good town in Mini Mafia IV. | ||
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Luckily Ace our scum leader was able to roll with it and claimed the shot as some kind of vigilante. | ||
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1) In any mafia game, mafia want to shoot the most valuable townies. 2) In a standard mafia game, mafia can share their reads and strategies on the most valuable townies and agree to shoot them. 3) In this mafia game, mafia must figure out their own reads and individually submit the kills. 4) If mafia disagree on who is the most valuable townies to kill, they can submit sub-optimal kills. 5) If townies post in the thread who the most towny players are, they make it easier for the mafia to co-ordinate kills. The above is pure logic. If you disagree, what step do you disagree with? | ||
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On January 26 2012 13:22 bumatlarge wrote: I get the "calling people town" gig, but how would mafia figure out who each other are based on speculation? I don't see anyway I could hint that I'm scum without townies seeing it, or that townies could just fake? Mafia are going to find mafia based on reads rather then hints I would think. And above those, broadcasts are going to give them an edge. Seems kinda pointless. I would be curious as to what GGQ and jackal would know to look out for in the first game, but jackal was LOL, and GGQ for all intent and purpose was a townie. One thing that might be of interest is that last game Ace sent me a cryptic message about which player to vote to kill... unfortunately his hint applied to two different players... so I made a post in the thread asking him to analyse the two, hoping for clarification. So it's definitely possibly that mafia will attempt to directly communicate in the thread. | ||
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So the primary way of finding mafia is just by lynching players who aren't contributing to the town but aren't completely lurking. Scum will be the players trying to ride the line between been too scummy and getting lynched or being too towny and getting shot. Town, on the other hand, shouldnt be afraid of shots so they'll be the towniest towns. | ||
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On January 27 2012 04:25 Zephirdd wrote: Let me summarize the plan for you guys. Don't worry about semantics, just try to not create leaders. This way scum won't have a solid target. Why is it so hard to understand something that simple? <3 | ||
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On January 26 2012 14:41 Navillus wrote: Well no I was focusing on getting you lynched because you were scummy, your voting me the way you did added to that scumminess, but i don't think we're really going to convince each other so i'll let this rest until more people get to the thread. On GGQ well it's an weird, because I say he seems scummy for in a way supporting you by diverting attention and because he said he supported the plan even calling out that if people have a problem they should point to one of the steps... then he didn't actually call you or jackal out, the interesting thing is I think he got the same red read off of you that I did and that's why he helped you, so what you are doesn't actually matter to the read on GGQ. He could have seen what I saw, thought what I thought, then because he's scum reacted differently. My opinion on Radfield's "plan" was that it makes sense and if you understand what he's saying then there's not much to argue about. I also thought it was a little overbearing but that doesn't negate the validity of the idea. I don't think the "plan" was critically important and I think we've already spent way too much time talking about it. I didn't call out jackal or redFF about it because it was a question of whether they were misunderstanding the "plan" or misrepresenting it. I wanted to see how they would respond to my clarification of the logic. Plus it was just a couple hours after the game began and most people hadn't even posted yet. I think that your theory that I was trying to divert attention from redFF is completely inane. | ||
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Jackal and logic have never gotten along well together. | ||
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On January 27 2012 01:35 Cwave wrote: I had to mafia wiki it... Sometimes, successful lynching of the "Village Idiot" results in the mafia being able to kill two people that night. What is the motive behind this post? Cwave takes one line from one wiki page, so he definitely had a reason to post specifically this. I can only assume he's trying to make redFF look scummy for saying he wants to lynch the VI. This seems like a gross attempt to misrepresent a player. I don't see any town motivation for this post. Cwave is scum. | ||
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Voting bumatlarge for now | ||
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On January 28 2012 09:03 Blazinghand wrote: You know what scum does day 1? They don't know who other scum is so they try to be unhelpful and push crappy lynches and crappy arguments (see: your entire idea on the bum lynch and massive attempts to derail MZ switch) or the lurk (MZ). How ironic | ||
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Seriously, bud, stop being such an asshole. It's completely unnecessary regardless of your alignment. I might not be back before lynch, so if I die I suspect bumatlarge, Cwave, and blazinghand. After that look at redFF, refallen and lanaia. | ||
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On January 29 2012 15:49 vaderseven wrote: Now for a closer look at one lurker in particular- GGQ. You have 15 total posts in this thread. Your first 4 posts have nothing to do with this game. You have filler posts like this in there: Some of those aren't completely unrelated to the game but they are at best comments on things already said that do not help in the least in finding scum. So 5 throw away filler posts, 4 posts not about the game and 6 real posts. You are lurking so hard and you have also claimed that the scum won't be lurkers even though it is very VERY clear (and was pointed out a long time ago) why the scum will want to lurk. Scum. Found. ##vote GGQ You're spinning shit like a madman. I hope I can assume that since no one else is voting for me, they all see how bad this case is. | ||
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Sorry but I think it's honestly pretty obvious at this point. The people that are scummiest are the people that everyone is talking about lynching. | ||
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On January 31 2012 05:17 Cwave wrote: ##vote: GGQ As for he has no post, lurks after announcing it and tries to get people to sheep onto me without any bloody reason. If Lanaia can't come up with something usefull other then "kinda" tomorrow she is next on my lynch list. I've given the reason, it hasn't changed. | ||
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On February 03 2012 11:05 Hesmyrr wrote: Scamp is still going to die tomorrow. I'm strongly inclined to agree with Hesmyrr at this point. Meapak fabricated a case against radfield and talked about nothing else on day 1. Scamp has more or less just idled in the game since he replaced in. | ||
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On February 03 2012 11:42 redFF wrote: Yeah I'm fine with Scamp but I would prefer Jackal. Honestly, this is just how jackal plays the game. | ||
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On February 04 2012 09:21 vaderseven wrote: If you have NOT read his filter, you are being a lazy moron. Its short and boring and adds nothing new about anything other than the fact that it confirms that he is lurking and sheeping his way out of every lime light. edited part in bold How many limelights are there? Look at vaderseven's filter and explain to me why it's better than mine. | ||
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On February 04 2012 10:34 Hesmyrr wrote: I said the original meta, which is the previous game. When everyone said the information from previous game was acceptable, I think most thought of 5 instead of 4. Also, the main focus of bumatlarge scum-tell was that he said "Leaning 5". Do not twist words here. He's not twisting anything, bro. You said it was 5-5 with complete certainty. | ||
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On February 07 2012 09:14 GreYMisT wrote: RedFF will be using a proxy for the duration of his ban, it will be through either me, iGrok, or Kitaman. All posts made by RedFF will be tagged with a heading. RedFF: bullshit obv scum Hesmyrr also obv scum, hesmyrr first, then zephirdd. ##Vote hesmyrr Someone vote and unvote me please Can you explain what this is all about, yet? | ||
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On February 09 2012 06:05 redFF wrote: Zeph tomorrow, then well decide between ggq and v7 and that leaves you out of it. How convenient. | ||
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On February 14 2012 11:29 GreYMisT wrote: My question is why, with rad dead, you guys didnt just look at your player number and broadcast #1 is scum or #7 is scum or something, you could have all confirmed yourselves before night 2 I broadcast that I was scum immediately after rad died. I knew every scum because we were all obvious. IMO we won the game without losing anyone and then I stopped playing. | ||
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On February 14 2012 11:32 Zephirdd wrote: OH yeah, question to town. Why the fuck did you lynch radfield LOL Seriously, I pissed myself from laughter from that lynch Town just kept giving us lynches that were clearly not mafia, I dunno. | ||
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On February 15 2012 08:09 iGrok wrote: If there are 2 scum and 2 vigis, you want to end it mafia victory? Yes, the vigis should have shot by then. | ||
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